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  1. Nobody wants to go first, huh? Ok

    The situation in Maui seems to have fallen out of the news. The last report I can access is from CBS and is dated. It puts the missing list at under 400. Another story claims that 2,000 children are unaccounted for in the schools. That’s a pretty wide gap. Nonetheless, the most recent official death toll is 97. What the hell is going on?

    I see all the stuff about DEWs and weather weapons. Maybe, I guess. But the lack of urgency in the press regarding so many missing says it all, doesn’t it? The local officials cared not at all, even during the fires. No water, no sirens, roadblocks on the escape route, and the governor talking about acquiring the land while the cremains were still smoking. Malfeasance all around.

    They crossed the Rubicon (again), and already it’s a non-story. What is to become of America?

    • Replies: @Derer
  2. aesop says:

    Plato was wrong (and Aristotle too) “reality” is in your head (and mine). 🙂

    https://europepmc.org/article/PPR/PPR333059

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  3. @aesop

    That’s a bit over my head, I’m afraid. It does remind me of a good quote from ghost Dumbledore in Harry Potter. One of the best lines in the whole series.

    “Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean it’s not real?”

    But, I don’t think the Lahaina fire was in our heads and that whole situation is creepy.

    • Replies: @aesop
  4. I’d like to have a conversation with a climate scientist that’s a believer in the CO2 theory. Any takers?

    Every diagram of CO2 in the atmosphere shows a globe with an uninterrupted CO2 blanket high up somewhere giving the impression it actually is a layer. If it were a layer, then the CO2 theory would make sense, but it’s not a layer with only a concentration of one CO2 molecule for every 2500 other molecules. Brownian motion plus CO2 being a relatively heavy molecule guarantees there never will be a blanket of CO2 anywhere.

    I’d like a credentialed scientist to give me enough information via a conversation to convince me that the CO2 theory has merit. My research and applying common sense tells me it’s bogus.

    • Agree: Kali, IreneAthena
  5. anon[580] • Disclaimer says:

    And Unz declines to allow comments on PCR’s critizism of Putin ? PCR , of all people, has economic credentials to understand that the Rothschild globalists have used the accounts of Treasury security auctions to embezzle $33 TRILLION from the US citizens. PCR has been reminded how it works and he does not fault it. Ref. 31 CFR #375.3.

    If ever there has been an individual that has pensive reflection on the pending global domination and nuclear destruction by the Rothschild clan and the famous Patrick Henry statement, “GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH,” it is Putin.

  6. aesop says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    Sorry for the late reply.

    That’s a bit over my head,

    There is no need to follow the exact details of the paper, the gist of which is that the so-called “reality” is not in the world but is the result of the interaction of an observer with the said world, i.e. it is not “true” but only a MAP which happens to be useful to the observer and thus entirely dependent on the point of view.

    It is an attempt to formally describe the contents of consciousness (i.e. EVERYTHING we see, feel and think), as such it is probably not an entirely reliable theory but rather a “scientific” account of more informal thoughts as related, for instance, in the movie Rashomon.

    This perfectly explains why our opinions differ so much and are most often irreconcilable.
    In the context of the Maui disaster it means that some genuinely believe in the “official” explanations despite the obvious lies and obfuscation. 🙂

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  7. @aesop

    I would assert that reality is in the world. Most of us, including me here in my living room in Texas, do not have adequate access to the facts of any of these jaw dropping events. So, trying to arrive at an accurate perception depends on looking through conflicting boxes of what is effectively circumstantial evidence and picking the right box. And even then needing to wait for a long time for the official narrative to confirm that I picked the right box. And that official confirmation may never even come.

    Sometimes it is easy. I have no doubt that I chose correctly when I declined any and all Covid “vaccines.” And I’m confident that Victoria Nuland and her ilk are the true instigators of the Russia-Ukraine war. But who she really works for is still too murky for me. And so are the facts of the Maui fire.

    • Replies: @aesop
    , @aesop
  8. bjondo says:

    Another Armenian Genocide? Sheikh Imran Hosein

    5ds

  9. aesop says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    I would assert that reality is in the world.

    Definitely disagree, you feel pain when “your” rubber hand gets hurt. 🙂

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3125296/

  10. Kali says:

    In the absence of any positive news anywhere in the western world, then could we not generate some for ourselves?

    I find myself despondent and depressed these days, whenever I access those news and views sites that I usually treasure. It seems every journalist and his wife are waiting in anxious limbo for the other shoe to fall, whilst piling on to tell us how that might go. I dare say I’m not alone in that feeling of hopelessness that “knowing shit” now brings.

    But then I find myself at peace and often joyful when I leave the news cycle behind and instead spend my time in the garden, watering, harvesting, pruning, weeding, building new beds, nose to beak with my chucks, with the fragrances of herbs, grass and soil in the air, dirt under my nails, sweat trickling down my face. Alive and carefree, if only for that moment. It’s enough!

    I know that alone there’s nothing I can do to “save the world” or even change it.

    But, by putting my energy into setting myself free, economically as well as psychologically, one coliflower, one sweet-potato, one pound of strawberries at a time, I not only free myself economically, but I free my spirit from the nihilism induced by being “in the know”. – Corny as it sounds, being “in the now” in the garden is by far the better option for me, and by far the better use of my time.

    To forget the world and all of its apparently unfixable brokenness, whilst fixing my own miniscule part in it, I can’t help but realise that the solutions we seek are right here at our finger-tips, available to us in this very moment.

    Of course, that’s easy for me to say, having made my own bid for freedom from the Matrix a dozen years ago, now, at last, perched on my Portuguese mountainside with acres of land to grow on. That’s why I take the time to imagine what I’d do if I still lived in the city.

    And what I’d do, I’ve mentioned on these pages before. I’d reach out to my neighbours and connect with those interested in creating a food production and distribution cooperative. I’d pontificate on the benefits of garden sharing, developing green-spaces as communal food gardens, of community stores of produce, tools, skills and time.

    And I’d loose myself in the moment every time my hands touched the soil to lift a potato plant, the world and its woes be damned.

    Of course, it’s not all about gardening. We need drivers and mechanics and engineers and fabricators and menders and builders… We need people to make the tables to put the food on. It’s just that my own thing is gardening. That doesn’t mean that gardening is the only thing!

    Who knows? Maybe if you join me in your own bid for freedom and economic independence, be you in the city, in the country or in the suburbs, maybe, just maybe we can swerve the implosion of western civilisation and begin a whole new chapter in our evolutionary story.

    And if we can’t, well so what! At least we get to chanel our energies into positive creativity whilst we live. – That’s got to beat the mother-f***ing-shit out of despondency and nihilism, and waiting for the end.

    It’s a fact worth knowing that you can be lifting your first crop of spuds just three months after planting.

    With love,
    Kali.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  11. Kali says:

    Dear Ron,

    If ever there was an article published on this website in dire need of open discussion it’s this one, published today by Paul Craig Roberts: https://www.unz.com/proberts/the-western-world-is-now-a-tyranny/

    I know that Mr Roberts dislikes the discussions on this forum, but I feel an exception needs to be made in this particular case.

    Therefore, will you please consider opening comments under this most important article.

    Many thanks,
    Kali.

    • Replies: @Kali
  12. Kali says:
    @Kali

    Dear Ron,

    Though your comment appears below the article in question, comments from others are still closed.

    Nonetheless, many thanks to both you and Mr Roberts for agreeing to open comments for that article.

    I appreciate Mr Roberts concerns. Hopefully the commenters will keep it civil this time around.

    With love,
    Kali.

  13. Derer says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    The MSM is not interested, because they cannot blame Russia, but Biden’s administration neglect for preoccupation with Ukraine billions – pathetic.

  14. Derer says:
    @RoatanBill

    The CO2 theory is as realistic as dinosaurs being extincted by their farting.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  15. Hello Ron Unz, I’m not sure if this is where to ask for tech help with the site, but briefly: I’ve been unable to submit “thanks” to Newslinks posts, and instead get a “you’re commenting too fast.” This has been happening for a month or so, both (1) soon after I’ve left a few comments and (2) soon after I’ve left no comments at all, let alone too fast. I’ve been posting from my phone, if that signifies. Thanks!

  16. @Derer

    Can confirm. It got Mrs. Dinosaur clean out of the mood.

  17. @RoatanBill

    I would like to see this topic discussed in a conversation free of ad hominems. Funnily enough, conversations about Global Warming so often generate more HEAT than light.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
  18. aesop says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    I would assert that reality is in the world.

    A much more detailed rejoinder to your assumption about “reality” than just the illusion of the painful rubber hand:

    “The Interface Theory of Perception”

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13423-015-0890-8

    Again, no need to bother with the technical details, jump to the conclusion and replies to objections, from page 1500 onward.

    Most especially:

    Objection 8 The interface theory entails that there are no
    public physical objects. But this is absurd. Even our legal
    system knows this is absurd. My car is a public object, and
    if you steal it you break the law.

    Reply The interface theory denies that there are public
    physical objects, but it does not deny that there is an objective
    reality that exists even if not perceived by a specific observer.

    When you and I both look at your car, the car I experience is
    not numerically identical to the car you experience. We both
    interact with the same objective reality, and we both represent
    our interaction with a species-specific set of experiences that
    we refer to as a car. But the objective reality is not a car and
    doesn’t remotely resemble a car; moreover, the car of your
    experience is distinct from the car of my experience.
    …/…

    • Replies: @Dumb4asterisks
  19. Me2 says:

    Over the last few days I have read many of your articles on WW II. One thing that has always puzzled me is a significant omission in the treaty between England, France and Poland in which England and France promised to come to Poland’s aid if attacked by Germany. Given the fairly concurrent Soviet attack on Finland, why the didn’t the allies agree to assist Poland if the Soviets attacked? Why only Germany? I did not see this referenced in any of your articles, nor have I ever seen any explanation in history books generally. Any ideas?

    • Replies: @wlindsaywheeler
  20. I know you say you don’t want her to be President…

    ‘Hillary Clinton: “There Needs To Be A Formal Deprogramming” Of The Trump Cult Members’

    But wouldn’t you really want to see what would happen?

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  21. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “I will be deprogrammed only over my cold dead body and after firing my last bullet” – some American, probably…

  22. @aesop

    OK, I’ll bite.

    I submit the following classification to try for size:

    Matter occupies time and space (like a car); immatter occupies only time (like an invention or novel)

    Subjective is what can be known only privately – by self (like a pain – others may also have pain but not my pain – (Clinton misspoke when he said, “I feel your pain.”); objective is what can be known publicly, by any (like a car).

    So, things are
    Material subjective things, like a pain
    Immaterial subjective things, like a thought.
    Material objective things, like a car.
    Immaterial objective things like an invention, story, or Santa.

    Reality consists of things and their relations. Leaving the relations aside, then

    Objective reality consists of material and immaterial things that can be known publicly.

    Subjective reality consists of material and immaterial things that can only be known privately.

    Analysis: So, the tumult is that you “do not deny that there is an objective reality that exists even if not perceived by a specific observer.” “But the objective reality is not a car and doesn’t remotely resemble a car; moreover, the car of your experience is distinct from the car of my experience.” Does this mean there is no car anywhere, or that the “real” car is (only) the one of “my (or our – which one?) experience”? Or, that “the car” is an aggregate of them all (which I can more support)?

    I understand Jefferson Temple to say that reality is also objective material things, which I think is correct, or at worst, that reality is only objective material things, which would be too restricted a view of reality. But such a materialistic view of reality might be a gut-reaction against lonely solipsism where we reduce all of reality to only my subjectivity – which you seem to be flirting with? It is true that when I die, all of reality will probably cease to exist for me – I’d be so lucky (no personal disclosure); but that is still far from reality ceasing for all – although with what is now going on in the Middle East – – who knows what “really” happens anymore?

    • Replies: @aesop
    , @aesop
  23. aesop says:
    @Dumb4asterisks

    Thanks for you interest in this kind of questions.

    In my view this is more about consciousness (our private experience) than about reality per se which definition is highly controversial.

    Does this mean there is no car anywhere, or that the “real” car is (only) the one of “my (or our – which one?) experience”? Or, that “the car” is an aggregate of them all (which I can more support)?

    As I understand it, there is something solid “out there” which you, me, and any other human perceive as the artifact which we have learned to call a “car”, but…
    The actual totality of this “object” is NOT at all similar to what we perceive.

    This is obvious for the extreme scales of the microscopic or cosmologic, atoms are not “small balls”, black holes are not “large balls” (there is no more consistent time or space in their vicinity), so it is the same for ordinary objects like chairs or coffee cups they are (probably…) somewhat similar to their appearance to us but not quite.

    This is the whole point of the “The Interface Theory of Perception” paper which demonstrate that Evolutionary speaking warped perceptions are better than more realistic ones, and thus our perceptions are very likely not “veridical”, though the concept of veridical is itself questionable.

    As for my own position I am neither materialist nor idealist, like the paper authors I think that so-called reality is not at all what it appears to be.

    I don’t believe either that anything can be called “veridical”, absolutely ALL that we see, feel or think is our private perception, it is only an image of the world (reality) and always an image, there is no way to reach the “Ding an Sich” of Kant.

    If you think about it the very concept of “material” is… an idea in the mind!
    🙂

  24. aesop says:
    @Dumb4asterisks

    To respond to your own proposal.

    Objective reality consists of material and immaterial things that can be known publicly.

    Subjective reality consists of material and immaterial things that can only be known privately.

    It seems you endorse the Platonic/Aristotelian view that what truly “exists” is described by some ontology, i.e. an absolute static view valid for all observers (the so-called “View from God”), and you state your own assumptions about it.

    I am not a believer in such ontologies whatever they may contain, to me and for any sentient being there are only TWO things that can be said to exist, himself (the Cartesian “cogito ergo sum”) and the world at large which contains everything, including the sentient being, but which cannot be more precisely described.

    Everything else is an elaboration of the mind of the sentient being and most certainly cannot be said to “exist” in the Platonic sense because it is private to the said being.

    This is, more or less, the thesis of Thomas Nagel, What Is It Like to Be a Bat?

    • Replies: @aesop
  25. It’s interesting to note that while, on the one hand, the media and the political class have been falling over themselves to express their outrage over Hamas’ success in attacking Israel, most Americans seem less enthusiastic.

    A demonstration in support of Israel at the Capital drew two hundred, for example. Outside of New York City, how many actually care?

  26. From Seymour Hersh. There’s a problem with the Drang nach Gaza…

    ‘…The major issue for the Israeli war planners is a reluctance, despite the mobilization of more than 300,000 reservists, to engage in a door-to-door street battle with Hamas in Gaza City. One veteran of the IDF, who served in a high post, told me that half of the Israeli Army has been engaged for the past decade or more in the protection of the increasing number of small settlements scattered in the West Bank where they are bitterly resented by the Palestinian population. “The Israeli planners don’t trust their infantry,” the insider said, nor their willingness to go to war but what could be a disastrous lack of combat experience…’

    The US media can only do so much to make Israel’s little boo-boos all better.

  27. The Israeli army is shooting Palestinians at random in the West Bank.

  28. Israel’s great strafeexpeditione may already be reaching its natural limit. Israel having killed a liitle over 0.1% of the population of Gaza, international criticism is swelling rapidly.

    ‘Which countries have criticised Israeli attacks on Gaza?
    From South Africa to Norway, the Middle East to Southeast Asia, calls for an end to the siege of Gaza are growing.’

    Not enough yet, of course, but Israel will obviously discover a ceiling soon — no matter how much chest-thumping her advocates engage in.

    I’ll pick five thousand. Israel can murder about five thousand random Palestinians, then she’ll have to quit.

    • Replies: @Spiny Norman
  29. ‘Biden to Visit Israel on Wednesday; Hamas Releases First Video of French-Israeli Hostage’

    I don’t suppose we could arrange a swap?

  30. ‘Palestinian Ministry of Health: more than 500 Palestinians killed in an lsraeli airstrike targeting a hospital in Gaza.’

  31. First footage from the attack.

    I’m sure international condemnation will be prompt, widespread, and official.

    • Replies: @muh muh
  32. muh muh says:
    @Colin Wright

    Israel is dizzying itself with its own lies.

    First, they owned the attack. Then, they posted an old video, claiming it proved that Hamas “misfired” a rocket at the hospital. Now, after being called out for their bullshit, they’ve deleted the video “evidence” and continued hawking the lie.

    Silver lining: Many more will simply not believe anything Israel has to say.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  33. ‘…It’s heart-breaking that Hamas is…using civilians as human shields’

    Aside from the fact that it’s all in aid of a deliberate lie, there are two irritating things about this.

    First, the notion that the Israeli government finds anything ‘heartbreaking’ about Palestinians getting killed.

    Second, the (endlessly repeated) claim that Hamas is using ‘human shields.’

    It’s nonsensical. Since the Jews don’t mind killing Palestinians in the first place, how could Palestinians serve as ‘human shields’?

  34. But, can the Jews hide it?

    • Replies: @muh muh
  35. Israel number one?

    As the toll from the bombing of the hospital in Gaza rises towards a thousand, people are wondering if that’s the largest civilian death toll from a single non-nuclear bomb ever.

    And it may have been one of our JDAM’s! USA, USA, USA…

  36. muh muh says:
    @Colin Wright

    X is peculiar.

    A few days ago, we saw #GazaGenocide trending at about 1.25 million posts, then suddenly disappear into thin air. Now, we see #Not Israel at about 600k posts, a number of which keep hawking the lie. Netanyahu himself is getting in on the action.

    One might say that it’s preferable to Facebook and other sites because it’s less restricted, but it seems to me that certain trends are inexplicably throttled or boosted at a moment’s notice.

    Looks like gaslighting.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  37. muh muh says:

  38. @muh muh

    ‘…Looks like gaslighting.’

    Looks like big Jew made Musk an offer he couldn’t refuse.

  39. @muh muh

    Inshallah, they’ll do the right thing. Whatever the outrages, it would be a small price to wake America up.

    After all, Israel just murdered a thousand Palestinians, and that was cool.

  40. Anyway, obviously Israel deliberately bombed that hospital, and equally obviously, it was an act of gross incompetence.

    No one’s going to be able to hide it, and no one’s going to be able to pretend it was justified. It was a horrific crime, comparable to Jallianwala Bagh or Kristallnacht.

    My betting is that Israel is going to be forced to cut her her murdercation short as a result. Come on kids, let’s go home…

    Aside from everything else, these guys are idiots.

  41. The notion that a Hamas rocket could kill 500-1000 people is ridiculous anyway, but here’s a video demonstrating something Max Blumenthal already mentioned.

    JDAM ‘s and Hamas rockets each have very distinctive — and very different — sounds. As you can hear in the video of the hospital being bombed, that was a JDAM.

    Note also that JDAM’s are precision ordnance, landing within five feet of the selected aiming point. Israel not only bombed that hospital, but chose to bomb it, knowing it was packed with refugees.

    • Agree: Wielgus
    • Replies: @A123
  42. A123 says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    The idea of a JDAM killing 500-1000 is equally ridiculous.

    The death toll is from the hospital’s weapons depot cooking off. (1)

    Further casting doubt on the claims made by Hamas that the IDF was responsible is that even pro-Gaza sources say that a misfired Hamas rocket is what struck the hospital, and that the blast detonated munitions that had been stockpiled there.

    Iranian Hamas is 100% responsible for turning the location into an ammo dump.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/10/17/evidence-suggests-misfired-hamas-rocket-hit-gaza-hospital-killing-hundreds-n1735708

  43. muh muh says:
    @Colin Wright

    I’m reminded of Shireen Abu Akleh and how they lied about deliberately killing her.

    With Shireen, their lies trickled through a bit more slowly, but it was educational to see how Israel writhed in its own skin throughout the entire fiasco, finally apologizing so many months after the fact.

    They did the same for the other elderly man who they basically suffocated.

    These two got attention just because both happened to be American citizens. Others they lied about are too numerous to remember off hand.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  44. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    It might have been gross incompetence but it was probably intentional, as a mosque has also been destroyed, according to a Turkish TV channel I am watching. Despite their own blind spots, there is no hemming or hawing here, they take it for granted Israel bombed the hospital.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  45. @Wielgus

    ‘It might have been gross incompetence but it was probably intentional…’

    I suspect so — the whole point of a JDAM is to put the bomb exactly where you want it. It just goes to show how Israel is no longer ‘one of us.’

    Back in the day — the day of Ben Gurion and Golda Meir and Abba Eban — Israel was run by relatively sophisticated, Westernized, Ashkenazi Jews; Golda Meir had taught school in Milwaukee. They knew what would play in Peoria, and they took care to cast themselves that way. To the casual observer, Israel was ‘nice.’ They probably bathed, whereas the Palestinians probably didn’t. Without thinking about it, they were indeed ‘our’ side.

    Now, they deliberately bomb a hospital, and at first even boast about it — only realizing after the fact that maybe that’s not too cool. These guys — unlike the earlier generation — can’t even fake it. They’re clowns who show up at the UN with cartoon story boards for arguments and boast about inventing the cherry tomato.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  46. @muh muh

    ‘These two got attention just because both happened to be American citizens. Others they lied about are too numerous to remember off hand.’

    Indeed. And what I noticed when I started following this around 2000 is that Israel’s lying is on a whole different plane.

    The Palestinians will exaggerate. Don’t we all? Remember the first ‘estimates’ for the death toll on 9/11? They’ll also — if accused of something embarrassing — reflexively lie. It’s all too normal. I’ve done it.

    But the Palestinians — like the rest of us — tend to operate in the realm of truth. We know what the truth is, even if we sometimes don’t admit it. And each step we take refers back to that truth, even if we sometimes stray. Our lies are ad hoc, inconsistent, usually unrelated to each other.

    Israel, I noticed, was different. They don’t just lie incoherently, or occasionally. They lie continually, and the lies fit together to form a structure of almost dizzying complexity, a kind of cathedral of lies. Looked at dispassionately, it’s really almost amazing.

    • Agree: muh muh
    • Replies: @muh muh
  47. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

    Haaretz:

    ‘Germany [sic] military plane lands in Berlin with nineteen Israelis.’

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  48. @Colin Wright

    ‘My betting is that Israel is going to be forced to cut her her murdercation short as a result. Come on kids, let’s go home…’

    In defense of this, I’ll point out that Sabra and Chatila shortly led to the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon, and the killings posted under ‘the knife intifada’ came to a screeching halt after that video of a Jewish soldier shooting and killing the wounded Palestinian lying helpless at his feet.

    Could be wrong, but hospital bombing may mean no more party time for IDF. All over; no more killing…ask Hamas to preeze stop shooting rocket…

  49. We veto a draft resolution in the UN Security Council calling for a cease-fire.

    Nobody joins us.

  50. muh muh says:
    @Colin Wright

    Unfortunately, I see both the New York Times and Guardian now giving credence to hasbara about the al-Ahli Hospital bombing. A lot of the legacy media is queueing up behind them.

    They’ve got some third parties saying the bomb crater size is inconsistent with that of a JDAM. This is what I posted at Anglin’s latest thread on the subject…

    Some facts:

    1. Al-Ahli Hospital sustained damage from an Israeli missle last Saturday, prior to Tuesday’s attack.

    2. In spite of its denials, Israel has threatened to bomb *numerous* hospitals in Gaza: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-gaza-hospitals-threatened-bomb

    3. Al-Ahli Hospital was one of the many hospitals Israel has threatened to bomb.

    4. On Tuesday, after the al-Ahli bombing, Israeli Spokesman Hananya Naftali, working directly under PM Netanyahu, openly stated that “Israeli Air Force struck a Hamas terrorist base inside a hospital in Gaza.” He then abruptly deleted it.

    4. Video “evidence” for a Hamas misfire presented by Israel (on X) bore a timestamp inconsistent with the timing of the Al-Ahli bombing. It was proven to be footage more than one year old. When this was discovered, Israel deleted it from their message.

    5. Open source video evidence also showed that the incoming missle did not appear to be a fragment of an exploded and misfired rocket. Its sound and flight was consistent with missles typically used by Israel, not Hamas.

    6. Al Jazeera Arabic captured at least 7 Israeli airstrikes within 10 minutes of the al-Ahli hospital bombing, giving the lie to the IDF’s claim that it was not active in the area.

    7. Israel presented “evidence” of Hamas operatives talking about their alleged “missle misfire”. It’s since been proven to be fake.

    Given the preponderance of evidence that Israel has falsified information repeatedly after the bombing, and given the astronomical odds against a misfired Hamas rocket making such a precise strike on a hospital that Israel not only threatened to strike, but *did* strike three days prior to the larger bombing, examination of crater sizes and other damage done to al-Ahli hospital hardly make the case for Israel.

    All evidence points to Israeli culpability. They’ve got more munitions than JDAM missles, so the Hamas misfire/JDAM argument is likely a false dichotomy.

  51. muh muh says:

    More silver linings…

    War with Hamas deals ‘severe economic blow’ to Israel
    https://new.thecradle.co/articles/war-with-hamas-deals-severe-economic-blow-to-israel

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Derer
  52. @muh muh

    ‘War with Hamas deals ‘severe economic blow’ to Israel
    https://new.thecradle.co/articles/war-with-hamas-deals-severe-economic-blow-to-israel’

    Also, when this sort of thing happens, the Zionists beat their chests — but a lot of people quietly leave, and fewer come. More Jews get out.

  53. This is striking. I typed in ‘Hamas rocket hospital’ and combed the results. Normally, that sort of thing yields a fair number of results from overseas after the first page or so of US results.

    In this case, I found no reiterations of the claim that it was a Hamas rocket that hit the hospital originating from outside the US or Israel. Not one. I’m sure there are in fact a few, but…

    We’re spinning off into our own little delusion — and no one is coming along for the ride.

    • Thanks: Kali
    • Replies: @muh muh
  54. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I once met a Jewish Israeli citizen at a conference. He lived in Austria, where the conference was. He readily agreed that Israel was fascistic and this was one reason he did not live there. That he found a former component of Nazi Germany more congenial to live in than the Jewish State was rather telling.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  55. Kali says:

    https://www.unz.com/article/pulling-the-roof-down-on-todays-paradigm/

    Dear Colin, et al,

    I think you’ll very much appreciate this latest article from Alastair Crooke.

    -It was posted yesterday but already (because there’s so much being posted atm) it’s no longer visible (to me anyway) in the “Categories” section, so I thought I’d highlight it here and in newslinks.

    Hope you agree with me that it’s a very worthwhile read.

    Best regards,
    Kali.

  56. Kali says:

    P.S.

    Ron Unz is the most courageous truth-teller in contemporary history. (His current “newsworthy” selection is testament to that!)

    I stand with Palestine: and all that Palestine represents to the future of our species.

    I stand with Ron Unz: and thank him for all of his courage and integrity.

    Viva Ron!

    Viva Palestine!

    Kali.

  57. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I remember the lengthy Encyclopedia Americana article on Israel, 1970 edition. We owned a set and I read the encyclopaedia a great deal as a child. It made little effort to be even-handed – a photo of kibbutz children being looked after was shown, apparently taken in the 1950s or early 1960s. It was noted that this particular kibbutz was founded by Jews from the USA. A Romanian-born farmer driving a tractor was shown – it was noted that he had a rifle by his side to deter “marauders” (it looked like one of the Czechoslovak Mausers sold or donated en masse to Jews before 1948 – it helped them outgun the Arabs in the war).
    Israel were seen as on the “right” side in the Cold War, whereas Egypt, Syria etc. had a lot of Soviet equipment.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  58. @Wielgus

    ‘I once met a Jewish Israeli citizen at a conference. He lived in Austria, where the conference was. He readily agreed that Israel was fascistic and this was one reason he did not live there. That he found a former component of Nazi Germany more congenial to live in than the Jewish State was rather telling.’

    This fits with my thesis that Zionism and Nazism are in principle identical.

    Of course Israel is going to be less successful than Nazi Germany. Where the Nazis sought to make a fascistic national community out of an actual nation, the Zionists are forcing it upon a collection of peoples who actually have very little in common: Yemeni Jews, Galician Jews, Moroccan Jews, German Jews…

    Certainly as it was implemented, Israel was a terrible idea, and this keeps getting reflected in how it plays out. These people have to hate, and have to keep attacking their neighbors. It’s the only way they can maintain even a simulacrum of national identity. No enemy at the gates, no national community. No national community, no Israel.

  59. @Wielgus

    Yeah. What I recall from literature in the Seventies — and from my own attitude — is that Israel’s legitimacy and goodness was taken for granted. Its right to exist was a given.

    Now people shriek about that — precisely because Israel’s right to exist has become questionable.

    • Agree: Wielgus
  60. muh muh says:
    @Colin Wright

    Try “Israel bombed hospital”.

    The results either repeat hasbara (NBC, WSJ, USA Today) or they seek to foment doubt about who is responsible.

    I don’t see a single source laying blame at Israel’s feet.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  61. @muh muh

    ‘…Silver lining: Many more will simply not believe anything Israel has to say.’

    Speaking for myself, nearly twenty years ago I came to the conclusion that a statement from Israel merely indicates what Israel would like you to believe. It might be the truth, or it might not — Israel saying it is so does nothing to make it more likely. So of course Israel will deny she bombed the hospital; that does nothing to demonstrate she didn’t. It merely demonstrates it dawned on her it would be a bad idea for people to think she bombed the hospital.

    Another point is that Israel’s lies often aren’t even intended to be believed by the critical or independent observer. They’re merely manufactured to reassure those who need to believe: JackD et al, Wolf Blitzer, and so on. Take this nonsense about a Hamas rocket killing five hundred. Find me one instance of a single Hamas rocket killing five hundred. Five, maybe. Not five hundred. That lie not merely doesn’t convince me; it’s not even meant to convince me. It’s for JackD.

  62. @muh muh

    ‘Try “Israel bombed hospital”.

    The results either repeat hasbara (NBC, WSJ, USA Today) or they seek to foment doubt about who is responsible.

    I don’t see a single source laying blame at Israel’s feet.’

    It’s amazing. As far as the honesty and courage of the media goes, we literally might as well be living in Nazi Germany. There’s no Goebbels calling a conference of the big editors and laying out this week’s line that I know of, but there might as well be.

    Even the peripheral mumbles of dissent are reminiscent of Nazi Germany. Just as Tucker Carlson manages to keep from overflowing with praise for Israel, so there were papers in Nazi Germany that managed to hint at their actual opinions for a few years.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  63. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Western media made much of Soviet censorship – issues of Pravda for example had a censorship number – but Western media had their own controls back then and they have only been intensified since that time. The increasing reliance of newspapers on freelancers without contracts means that journalists are afraid to go off the reservation. No doors kicked in at two in the morning if they do, they just don’t get hired again… And then of course what happened to someone like Assange has a chilling effect…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  64. muh muh says:

    I can’t help but enjoy this.

  65. @Wielgus

    ‘Western media made much of Soviet censorship – issues of Pravda for example had a censorship number – but Western media had their own controls back then and they have only been intensified since that time. The increasing reliance of newspapers on freelancers without contracts means that journalists are afraid to go off the reservation. No doors kicked in at two in the morning if they do, they just don’t get hired again… And then of course what happened to someone like Assange has a chilling effect…’

    More unpleasantly, I also think the massively disproportionate presence of Jews in the media has a lot to do with it. It’s one of those things I wish weren’t so, or could be dismissed — but it can’t.

    It’s like the black role in violent crime. One can wish it weren’t so — but it is so.

  66. Apparently Christians can be terrorists too.

    ‘Israel-Hamas war live: Condemnation after Israeli strike on Gaza church’

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  67. Christians, Shmistians.

    Ask JackD. Does he care?

  68. The end comes for Israel.

  69. My. I don’t care for her myself, but…

    ‘‘Whoever identifies with Greta in any way in the future, in my view, is a terror supporter,’ says Israeli army spokesperson.’

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  70. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    About 10% of Palestinians are Christians, though relatively few Christians elsewhere know that. I don’t think the MSM goes out of its way to inform them either. The late Walter Laqueur claimed in the 1970s that Palestinian Christians were more radical than Muslims – he pointed to people like George Habbash. Admittedly Laqueur was writing before radical Islam entered the arena, and he was influenced by the Cold War – Habbash was a Marxist.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  71. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I suspect Joan of Arc was much like Greta – very sure of herself, a bit nuts and rather annoying.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  72. @Wielgus

    ‘I suspect Joan of Arc was much like Greta – very sure of herself, a bit nuts and rather annoying.’

    Quite likely, but (a) Joan’s religion enjoyed more universal acceptance, and (b) Greta Thunberg definitely doesn’t look like Ingrid Bergman. It’s not even close.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  73. @Wielgus

    ‘About 10% of Palestinians are Christians, though relatively few Christians elsewhere know that. I don’t think the MSM goes out of its way to inform them either. The late Walter Laqueur claimed in the 1970s that Palestinian Christians were more radical than Muslims – he pointed to people like George Habbash. Admittedly Laqueur was writing before radical Islam entered the arena, and he was influenced by the Cold War – Habbash was a Marxist.’

    …and disproportionately, it is the Christians who have emigrated — like, say, to America. There are a number of perfectly good reasons for that, but at the end of the day, overseas Palestinians are more likely to be Christians than stay-at-home-and-get-the-boot-ground-into-your-face Palestinians.

    God, this shit infuriates me. But to return to what I wanted to say…

    So I recall some clip posted by some Islamophobe. He’s very proud of how he’s going into some Palestinian bakery or whatever in Detroit and giving everyone shit for being Muslim.

    The comic bit is you can see perfectly clearly who the ‘Muslims’ are. There’s a Cross hanging behind the counter. What an asshole..

    • Agree: Wielgus
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  74. Now, just to be positive…

    This is what America was supposed to be about.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  75. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I suspect the historical Joan of Arc didn’t look like Ingrid Bergman either. There is only one surviving sketch of Joan of Arc apparently made during her lifetime, possibly from life, and it is a bit of a caricature.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  76. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Well, some gas station attendant somewhere in the US boondocks was murdered for being a Muslim just after 9/11, I recall. It turned out he was a Sikh or Hindu.

  77. ‘Psaki: Biden’s Address Was A Reminder To The Public That The United States “Needs To Be Engaged In These Conflicts”‘

    Why?

  78. @Wielgus

    ‘I suspect the historical Joan of Arc didn’t look like Ingrid Bergman either. There is only one surviving sketch of Joan of Arc apparently made during her lifetime, possibly from life, and it is a bit of a caricature.’

    It was a bad representation.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  79. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yes. Kind of a shame Jan van Eyck, perhaps the best artist of the 15th century, was not present to make a more impressive drawing. He was alive at the time but worked for the Burgundian court, ie. Joan’s enemies, along with the English.

  80. ‘US says it will retaliate if American forces are attacked in Middle East
    United States Secretary of State Antony Blinken has warned that Washington is prepared to retaliate if US troops are targeted in the course of the Israel-Hamas war…’

    Israel? Your move.

  81. So. Der pot callss der kettle black, nicht wahr?

    ‘Hamas’ Brutal Disinformation Campaign Against Israel
    May & Stradner, Messenger
    Hamas fully comprehends that information is a weapon and will continue to batter Israel in the information space Read More’

    • Agree: Wielgus
  82. muh muh says:

  83. Wielgus says:

    Yes. Self-referential hardly begins to cover it…

  84. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Although it may be symptomatic of economic pressures that he could not simply get the day off.
    Do US graduation ceremonies typically take place in the morning or evening? My own one (in Scotland) was in the morning.

  85. Haaretz:

    ‘Officials Close to Netanyahu Call for Delay of Gaza Ground Op, Anonymous Social Media Campaign Follows Suit
    Political sources question whether the dissemination of these messages indicates that Netanyahu is trying to prepare public opinion for delaying, or even avoiding, a large-scale ground operation in the Gaza Strip’

  86. ‘The crisis at the southern border broke multiple records in September, including a record number of migrant apprehensions. ‘

    How many different things can the ‘migrants’ be feeling apprehensive about?

    To be fair, I suppose they can hardly say ‘arrests.’ After all, the ‘migrants’ aren’t even detained.

    On the other hand, to simply call it a ‘count’ (as if they were salmon passing the fish viewing window) would let the cat out of the bag, so to speak.

  87. ‘We’ll be prepared if Iran escalates attacks,’ says Blinken — CBS

    Something like those cross-border provocations from Poland in 1939 then?

  88. Dunno if everyone can read this, but…

    Seymour Hersh sheds a refreshing amount of light without too much heat on the events of October 7th.

    https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/the-mysteries-of-october-7

  89. muh muh says:

  90. We are led into broad, sunlit uplands.

    ‘Prime Minister of Israel

    @IsraeliPM
    The weak crumble, are slaughtered and are erased from history while the strong, for good or for ill, survive. The strong are respected, and alliances are made with the strong, and in the end peace is made with the strong.
    10:05 AM · Aug 29, 2018’

  91. Okay, I’m confused.

    ‘On Double Standards and Deafening Silence
    Bari Weiss, The Free Press
    A Nazi sympathizer at The New York Times…’

    Bari Weiss is still at the New York Times?

  92. ‘Joe Lieberman is back, and he’s calling for the US to launch preemptive strikes on Iran. “We have to hit them hard,” Lieberman says…’

    I remember Joe Lieberman. He was from back when it didn’t matter if someone was a Jew.

    Those were the days.

  93. Here’s one the Jews didn’t get.

    Sucks, doesn’t it, Jack?

  94. Hold me back, bro!

    ‘Israel-Hamas War Day 19 | Report: Israel Agrees to U.S. Request to Delay Gaza Invasion’

  95. Gotta admit.

    ‘…Israel has killed the family of Al Jazeera’s Wael Dahdouh while he was on air covering its missile strikes

    The targeted murder comes a day after Tony Blinken demanded Qatar suppress Al Jazeera’s coverage of Gaza…’

    They’ve certainly got their targeting down. Every kill is a deliberate kill.

  96. ‘Johnson goes from “who the hell?” to second in line for the presidency.’

    That’s a good point. Now, if we can just arrange for Air Force One and Air Force Two to have a catastrophic mid-air collusion.

    Plus, he would be our third president named ‘Johnson’ — all of whom would have ascended to the Presidency via the death of their predecessor.

  97. ‘Eight-year-old Yonatan Moshe Erlichman, who was featured in a 2020 Israeli commercial promoting COVID-19 vaccinations for children, died last month of sudden cardiac arrest…’

    Anecdotal; it’s all anecdotal.

  98. Seymour Hersh:

    ‘“…Israel, ruthlessly,” I was told, “is going after the families, wives, kids, brothers, sisters, parents of Hamas political and military leaders.” He said fourteen members of the family of Ismail Haniya, the political leader of Hamas based in Qatar, had already been killed. Within two days of the October 7 raid, he said, the widow of Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi, a Hamas co-founder who was assassinated in 2004, was killed. Similarly, he said, eight members of the family of Muhammed Deif, the Hamas military leader, were killed in safe homes…’

  99. Hitler was ahead of his time.

    ‘…4.1% of all 2022 Canadian deaths were the result of the Medical Assistance in Dying [MAID] program, AKA euthanasia.

    In five months, Canada will begin allowing euthanasia for mental illness as well…’

    Of course, Canada has forged ahead in one respect; Hitler had to hide his programme from the German people.

  100. Le headline du jour:

    ‘Israel bombs maternity ward’

  101. Israel always hits exactly what she wants.

    ‘Israeli strike hits Gaza medical convoy’

  102. More Jewish humor.

    ‘Breaking: Israeli warplanes bombed a group of gravediggers in Beit Lahia, northern Gaza Strip, killing at least 10 of them.’

    Good one, huh, Jack?

  103. Jews in action.

  104. Derer says:
    @muh muh

    War with Hamas deals ‘severe economic blow’ to Israel

    No problem, the apathetic American taxpayers approve, with pleasure, and will cover the Israel and Ukraine expenses.

  105. ‘An Israeli air attack in south Lebanon has killed four civilians – three children and their grandmother.’

  106. ‘6 warning signs for Biden in new battleground state poll
    The toplines are bad for Biden. What’s buried deeper in the poll might be worse.’

    Watch for ‘Iran’ to attack one of those naval vessels we’ve sent to be within easy reach of Israel.

    It’ll be a win-win. Israel comes out ahead, and the Biden administration comes out ahead. Plus, we get a war.

  107. pragmatic says:

    Pragmatic Norman Finkelstein, January 5, 2008:

    Norman Finkelstein in The Netherlands by Jelle Bruinsma

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2008/01/05/norman-finkelstein-in-the-netherlands/

    Cockburn still around so C-P not half bad.

    bjondo (seems 2 comments limit and anon exceeded w/o a posting??)

  108. This one’s fun. I collect photos from the media grouping blacks with whites in social settings. I’m entirely indiscriminate — whatever. I just add it.

    So I just took a look at those photos which had a heterosexual sexual connotation — either showed or implied an inter-racial heterosexual couple.

    There were thirty such photos. In all thirty, it was the man that was black. I’m sure they exist, but apparently I’ve never encountered an image portraying an interracial couple in which the man was white.

  109. bjondo says:

    Habits are hard to break.

    The Ten Dumbest Things We’re Being Asked To Believe About Israel’s War On Gaza
    Caitlin Johnstone, Nov 6, 2023

    https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-ten-dumbest-things-were-being

  110. The New York Times reminds us that much remains to be done if free speech is to be completely extinguished here in America.

  111. Marjorie Taylor Greene flip-flops again.

    ‘The battle I want to see won is the battle for the American people.

    I stand with Israel, but I haven’t voted to send them money.

    Israel is doing a great job of defending themselves, but hundreds of our people are dying every single day from the crisis at our Southern border.’

    Bad Marge. CUFI’s gonna getcha, Marge.

  112. Fill in the blanks.

    ‘…The abuse lasted almost a whole day. ______ and ________ detained and handcuffed three ______ from ________, and for hours, according to the ________, they were severely beaten, stripped to their underwear, and photographed handcuffed, in their underwear. Their captors urinated on two of them and extinguished burning cigarettes on them…’

  113. It does explain things.

    ‘…Haley’s nonprofit policy advocacy group, Stand For America, Inc., has received major donations from people including New York hedge fund manager Paul Singer, investor Stanley Druckenmiller, and Miriam Adelson and her late husband, casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, the Internal Revenue Service filings reveal…’

  114. De Santis: ‘In Florida, we declared November 7th as Victims of Zionism Day & require students to be taught how victims suffered under Zionist regimes…’

    Just funnin.’ For ‘Zionist,’ read ‘Communist.’

  115. That’s the prescription.

    ‘Israeli doctors have signed a letter calling for the bombing of hospitals in Gaza.

    Only last week, dozens of prominent Israeli rabbis had already assured Israeli leaders that they have a right to bomb al-Shifa’ hospital in Gaza, and this week’s letter signed by “Doctors for the Rights of IDF Soldiers” urges the bombing of any and every hospital in Gaza.

    The letter states, in no uncertain terms, that due to suspicion of “terrorist activity,” the hospitals are “a legitimate target for annihilation.”..’

    Let’s be frank. They don’t mean ‘Israeli’ doctors. I doubt if any Israeli Palestinians signed this letter.

    They meant Jewish doctors.

  116. In censuring Rashida Tlaib, Congress just demonstrated how utterly subservient it is to Israel.

  117. Lol! That really is funny.

    ‘Is Campus Rage Fueled by Middle Eastern Money?
    Bari Weiss, The Free Press…’

  118. ‘Investigation disproves Israel claim of Hamas tunnel under Gaza hospital.’

    You mean Israel lied again? I guess they just like to bomb hospitals.

  119. Interesting — if hardly conclusive.

    National Conservative

    @NatCon2022
    ·
    28m
    What policy should the US pursue now that there is a new Arab-Israeli conflict?

    A) Continuing “paying for peace” by arming Israel and the Arabs

    B) Increase money/weapons for Israel

    C) Increase money for Palestinians

    D) Cease involvement and stop sending money to the region
    A) Continue arming both
    1.4%
    B) Uncond pro-Israel
    21.4%
    C) Support Palestinians
    8.6%
    D) Not my sandbox!
    68.6%
    70 votes
    ·
    1 day left

    Note the source.

    This confirms my suspicion. Sure, most Americans support Israel and are outraged, outraged at Hamas’ supposed atrocities.

    They just don’t want to get involved.

    Well, I don’t care why we pull the plug on Israel. I just want us to pull it.

    So this is good news.

  120. I still don’t want an Indian president, but I gotta admit…

    Vivek Ramaswamy tore the media a new one.

  121. …and (wait for it).

    The New York Times ranks Ramaswamy’s performance last and Nikki Haley’s first.

    Ramaswamy, of course, suffers from Tulsi Gabbard’s Disease: he doesn’t love Israel enough.

    Haley, on the other hand, loves Israel the very bestest. The very, very bestest.

    So the Times‘ rankings make sense after all.

  122. Busy, busy, busy…

    Even as she continues her murdercation in Gaza, Israel bombs Jenin, killing thirteen, and attacks Damascus airport.

    One might almost think she’s trying to get something started.

  123. muh muh says:

    Silver linings, folks. Silver linings.

    War is costing economy some $600m a week due to work absence — Bank of Israel
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/war-is-costing-economy-some-600m-a-week-due-to-work-absence-bank-of-israel/ar-AA1jFmfi

    Israel Budget Deficit Soars in October Due to Gaza War Expenses, Revenue Dip
    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-11-08/israel-budget-deficit-soars-in-october-due-to-gaza-war-expenses-revenue-dip

    Israel’s economy recovered from previous wars with Hamas, but this one might go longer, hit harder
    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/israels-economy-recovered-previous-wars-hamas-longer-hit-104491799

  124. Meanwhile…

    What the cool kids are up to.

    ‘Trending: Israeli Soldiers Document and Proudly Post Their Own Abuse of Palestinians’

  125. And it’s good to see which side Fetterman is on.

    ‘I stand with Fetterman’ tee-shirts?

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  126. muh muh says:

    The world’s most moral army.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  127. @muh muh

    Those guys…what a buncha kidders.

  128. Yep. Re blocking criticism of Israel:

    ‘Glenn Greenwald

    @ggreenwald
    ·
    3h
    Waiting for my invitation from Fox to come on and discuss this latest act of gross political censorship in the US, as I got so many times over the last many years.

    It’s a good thing I know not to hold my breath waiting for it.’

  129. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I took part in a huge pro-Palestinian march today in London. It was like a human river in full spate. There was one counter-protester I saw. A rubicund gentleman in a tweed suit standing between two police vehicles shouting “Free Gaza from Hamas!” He was simply ignored and was basically rather pathetic.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  130. ‘US attacks Iran-linked targets in Syria’

    Hopefully, we’re just trying to appease boss man.

  131. ‘New Film Exposing Hamas’ Nova Massacre Horrors Is Not Available to Be Watched
    New documentary ‘Supernova, The Music Festival Massacre’ raises the question of whether to avert our gaze from the harsh sights of the Hamas massacre against young Israeli partygoers, or to take a close look at the depths of human evil. ‘We came to make a thriller and got a horror film,’ the makers say’

    The production values just aren’t there yet.

    You know, this shit isn’t easy. We’ve all seen obviously phony ‘footage.’

  132. Wielgus says:

    Suella Braverman has been sacked as British Home Secretary. Her comments on the homeless and the need to ban street demonstrations and Palestinian flags were widely seen as inflammatory. Her replacement, James Cleverly, is not much of an improvement.

  133. Whoops.

    ‘Tel Aviv Hospital Spokesperson Summoned to Pre-dismissal Hearing After Freed Hamas Hostage’s Controversial Press Conference
    Avi Shoshan, who has worked at Ichilov Hospital for 14 years, was placed on forced leave for facilitating the press conference where Yocheved Lifshitz said that Hamas was ‘very friendly’ to her…’

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  134. Israel’s catching up with her predecessor. Thirteen thousand Jews were killed in the actual suppression of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

    Still, I don’t suppose Israel will be able to exterminate the survivors.

  135. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    A kid in the Third Reich inadvertently got his father arrested and sent to a concentration camp. After a teacher’s tirade about Jews in class, the kid said, “My daddy says Jews are not damnably vile.” Same principle at work here…

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  136. Once again, Airstrip One leads the way.

    What constitutes crime in today’s England.

  137. ‘…”Israel’s actions have caused immense suffering and shown that terrorism does not occur in isolation,” US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said in the statement.

    “Together with our partners we are decisively moving to degrade Israel’s financial infrastructure, cut them off from outside funding, and block the new funding channels they seek to finance their heinous acts.”…’

    Just funnin.’

    Of course.

  138. Israel may have managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    ‘The NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll found that 56 percent of Democrats in the US said the Israeli response has been too much – up 21 percentage points from October.

    “The results were driven by people of colour and younger respondents, who were far more likely than others to say Israel has gone too far, and said their sympathies lie more with the Palestinians than Israelis,” NPR said…’

  139. Oh dear.

    ‘A sensational scandal for the Israeli occupation army at Al-Shifa Hospital.

    The occupation army brought crates this morning, claiming they contained aid for Al-Shifa Hospital.

    They transferred them inside the hospital, but the crates actually held weapons, clothing, and military equipment pre-prepared for staged footage inside the hospital.

    A comparison of external images of the crates released by the occupation army and the video they published reveals the weapons being taken out.

    The same logo on the crates outside the hospital is evident in both images.

    It’s a poorly produced film and a staggering scandal.’

    The IDF has since deleted the video.

    These guys have got to work on their lying skills.

  140. At this point, I’d believe it.

    ‘Thousands ‘in danger of death’ as Israeli troops ransack Gaza hospital
    Gaza health ministry spokesman accuses Israeli troops of destroying dialysis, radiology units at al-Shifa hospital.’

  141. The Justice Express!

  142. Zzz…

    ‘…On November 11, the official Arabic account run by Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs posted a video of a nurse, apparently agitated, talking about Hamas overrunning the al-Shifa Hospital, and taking all the fuel and morphine. She claimed that because Hamas had stolen morphine, she couldn’t use it on a five-year-old with a fracture.

    The video, which was retweeted thousands of times, was a clear fake. No staff in the vicinity appear to recognise the individual featured, casting doubt on her identity and role. Robert Mackey, a journalist with the research agency Forensic Architecture, spoke to three Doctors Without Borders staff members working at the al-Shifa Hospital, none of whom recognised her.

    The video was almost comic in its absurdity. The nurse spoke with a non-Palestinian accent, and her dialogue seemed to perfectly echo Israeli military talking points about Hamas stealing all the fuel from hospitals…’

  143. And it would seem that Zionist Jews really are monsters.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-army-kills-elderly-taking-pr-photo-safe-corridor

    Middle East Eye is a perfectly reputable news source.

  144. It doesn’t matter how big you are. Even Elon can’t cross boss man.

    ‘Musk: Terms Such as ‘Decolonization’ and ‘From the River to the Sea’ Will Result in Suspension From X’

  145. https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-sure-doesnt-look-like-democracy-anymore-opinion-1844799

    Reading through the above catalog makes one realize something; the Ukraine is about as democratic as Nazi Germany was.

    Like Nazi Germany, it has suppressed all dissident political parties. Like Nazi Germany, it has canceled all elections. Like Nazi Germany, it has banned all independent media. Like Nazi Germany, it has even persecuted independent churches and attempted to form a state-sponsored one.

    Of course, there are differences. Unlike Nazi Germany, the Ukraine is ruled by a Jew. Also unlike Nazi Germany, we support it in its struggle with Russia.

  146. Morbidly comic. People confer about what America should do about the Palestinian problem.

    ‘…Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) hosted a lunch on Wednesday for Senate Democrats about the Israel-Hamas war, four people knowledgeable of the gathering said. Shibley Telhami, the Anwar Sadat professor for peace and development at the University of Maryland, spoke to the lawmakers on the issues and confirmed the meeting happened. Three other people said that Telhami was a guest alongside The New York Times’ Tom Friedman and former Middle East peace negotiator Dennis Ross, neither of whom immediately responded to requests for comment…’

    Note that three of the four are Jews.

  147. • Thanks: muh muh
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  148. muh muh says:

    I’ve got some more clips like this one if anyone’s interested…

  149. muh muh says:

    Translation: The Mujahideen are hunting the occupiers like (they would) pigs.

  150. muh muh says:
    @Colin Wright

    Meanwhile, on the Gazan front…

  151. muh muh says:

  152. ‘…The Federal Bureau of Investigation said Wednesday afternoon that it was investigating the explosion.

    U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer tweeted shortly after 4:30 p.m. that he was told by the FBI that the two people killed were in the car, but that nothing’s been determined on their identity or motive.

    A law enforcement source told the Buffalo News that as of early Wednesday evening, investigators don’t believe the incident was a terrorist act…’

    Sometimes cars just ‘splode.

    Does this mean that the government doesn’t want to draw attention to whoever did this?

  153. There’s some black Lefty named Hill Harper who’s running for a Michigan Senate seat. Jewish donors offered him twenty million if he would drop out and run against Rashida Tlaib instead.

    …I’ll throw my hat into the ring for fifteen million. I mean, I don’t have to win or anything, right?

  154. aesop says:
    @aesop

    To pursue on the subject of consciousness, reality and even more important topics see:

    Technological Approach to Mind Everywhere: An Experimentally-Grounded Framework for Understanding Diverse Bodies and Minds

    Quoting from the Conclusion on pages 30-32

    Given the ability of human subunits to merge into even larger
    (social) structures, how do we construct higher-order Selves that promote flourishing for all? The multicellularity-cancer dynamic (Figure 9) suggests that tight functional connections that blur cognitive boundaries among subunits is a way to increase cooperation and cognitive capacity. However, simply maximizing loss of identity into massive collectivism is a well-known failure at the social level, always resulting in the same dynamic: the goals of the whole diverge sharply from those of the parts, which
    become as disposable to the larger social Self as shed skin cells are to us.

    This seem to be a frantic attempt to sell “advanced” transhumanist ideas to the techno-scientific elites.

    Though “technically” the whole paper is irreproachable and sums up much excellent recent research, it suffers IMHO from major questionable (and even evil…) flaws.

    – It takes for granted than we can do “just as good” as 2 billions+ years of evolution.

    – To this end it assumes that “design” of life-like contraptions can safely be done out of our own judgements.

    – It is completely silent about the motivations and sponsors of such an endeavour (alluding only to good causes like regenerative medicine).

    – Last but not least it conflates cognition and consciousness without any evidence and use this to propose ethical guidelines, which is obviously questionable.

    The whole paper is astounding and well worth a full read but you can just skim the conclusion.

  155. …the paper being written by a ‘Michael Levin.’

    There is a rather summary but monotonously valid way to consider these things, you know. Is the author a Jew?

    If only it weren’t so…

    • Replies: @aesop
  156. Israel has just assassinated five Hezbollah fighters. They’ve now bagged eighty five.

    They do seem determined.

  157. Israel’s lying ceases to even be interesting.

  158. aesop says:
    @Colin Wright

    Is the author a Jew?

    😀 😀 😀

    Likely, but that doesn’t mean that the technical content does not hold.
    Einstein was a Jew yet Relativity works.
    Without the relativistic adjustments of the clocks GPS would not work.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  159. @aesop

    ‘Is the author a Jew?

    😀 😀 😀

    Likely, but that doesn’t mean that the technical content does not hold.
    Einstein was a Jew yet Relativity works.
    Without the relativistic adjustments of the clocks GPS would not work.’

    Yeah. I went overboard with that one. It’d be more accurate to say one should look more critically at intent and effect if the author is a Jew.

    • Replies: @aesop
  160. Ceasefire begins. Israel kills two, wounds eleven.

  161. Who knows?

    The media portrayed the anti-immigrant protestors in Ireland as thugs intent on looting.

    The one video I’ve seen shows Irish protesters berating black immigrants for looting.

    Really, what this boils down to is that the mainstream media now lies so much that it can become impossible to ascertain the truth about anything.

  162. aesop says:
    @Colin Wright

    It’d be more accurate to say one should look more critically at intent and effect

    Exactly, and this is why I criticized the “flaws”, it was the Tikun Olam mania which fueled the hubris of “doing better” than evolution.

    And without any questioning of the costs/benefits ratios expected, like, how much a limb regeneration would cost and who could afford it?

    There are more reasonable approaches to advanced technologies:

    Towards an Ethics of Autopoietic Technology: Stress, Care, and Intelligence
    (PDF 13 pages versus only 7 in the paywalled version)

  163. After all, who is it who loves Israel the bestest? I mean, they all do, but…

    ‘Most major media outlets are now reporting that GOP’s big donors and their bundlers — the Wall St. bankers, the hedge fund managers, the billionaire heirs, even “Obama’s banker,” JP Morgan Chair Jamie Dimon — are pouring their cash into Nikki Haley.’

  164. Terrorism:

    ‘…Naftali Bennett, the former Israeli Prime Minister, chimed in to proclaim that “Liel Hetzroni of Kibbutz Beeri was murdered in her home by Hamas monsters… We’re fighting the most just war: to ensure this can never happen again.”

    Liel Hetzroni was among the noncombatants killed in Kibbutz Be’eri when the small southern Israeli community was momentarily taken over by Hamas militants seeking captives to spur a prisoner exchange. During the standoff that ensued, she was killed instantly alongside twin brother, great-aunt and several other residents of Be’eri….’

    Pretty cut-and-dried. But sadly…

    ‘…However, the 12-year-old Hetzroni was not slain by Hamas. According to new testimony by an Israeli eyewitness to the girl’s death, she was killed by an Israeli tank shell alongside several neighbors.

    The revelation of Hetzroni’s friendly fire death came as the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanhahu attempts to shut down the Israeli newspaper Haaretz for reporting that Israeli Apache helicopters killed Israeli citizens fleeing the Nova electronic music festival on October 7…’

  165. Place yer bets.

    Has Israel become so detached from reality that it will openly resume hostilities when the ceasefire expires tomorrow?

  166. Lol.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  167. @Colin Wright

    Warning: this may prove developmentally inappropriate for the women in your life.

  168. Israel’s inventions are starting to form a kind of body of dark humor.

    What will they come up with next?

  169. The Zionists are flooding Twitter with pro-Israel propaganda. The sheer volume is amazing.

  170. It’s ominous; maybe Israel is planning to resume implementing its final solution.

    So they’re working up a renewed simulacrum of righteous outrage.

  171. …and funny how this hasn’t come up more often.

    ‘…Nationwide, chronic absenteeism − the percentage of students missing at least 10% of a school year − surged from 15% in 2018 to 29% last year…’

    I wonder if black kids are going to school at all.

  172. No, this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. It is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

    ‘WASHINGTON, Nov 2 (Reuters) – The U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday passed a Republican plan to provide $14.3 billion in aid to Israel and cut funding of the Internal Revenue Service, despite Democrats’ insistence it has no future in the Senate and the White House’s promise of a veto.

    The measure passed 226 to 196, largely along party lines, a shift from typical strongly bipartisan congressional support for providing aid to Israel…’

    Yes, I know the difficulty is the poison pill the Republicans inserted in the bill. The Senate will probably vote against it, and if not, Biden will veto it. It doesn’t matter how it happens — just so long as it happens.

  173. Henry Kissinger just died.

  174. Those guys…

    ‘…In footage of the shooting attack in a Jerusalem bus stop published on social media, Yuval Doron Kastelman is seen raising his hands and begging the Israeli soldiers not to shoot – after which he is shot and falls to the ground…’

    I take it he looked Palestinian.

  175. Depressing. Notice what happens as soon as we lose interest.

    ‘…Meanwhile, the president and his foreign policy aides have also been left on the outside as serious peace talks between Russia and Ukraine have rapidly gained momentum.

    “Everyone in Europe is talking about this”—the peace talks—an American businessman who spent years dealing with high-level Ukrainian diplomatic and military issues in the government told me earlier this week. “But there are lots of questions between a ceasefire and a settlement.” The veteran journalist Anataol Lieven wrote this week that the battlefield situation in Ukraine and thus “a ceasefire and negotiations for a peace settlement are becoming more and more necessary for Ukraine.” …’

    Peace breaks out.

    I daresay much the same would happen if we pulled the plug on Israel. Deprived of the assurance of eternal and total military supremacy, Israel would feel a sudden need to at least partially placate some of her neighbors. Gratuitously murdering Palestinians because she enjoys it would not fit in with that.

  176. It’s worth adding that there would seem to be a fundamental principle here.

    The relations between nation-states are fundamentally governed by recognition of the power relations involved. Nepal does not frivolously pick a quarrel with India. Japan tries to get along with China.

    …and I think it’s safe to say that absent external actors, the Ukraine would have taken pains to stay on good terms with Russia.

    But when we stick our oar in, such equilibria are upset. The Ukraine decides it can fight Russia and win. Israel feels it can and should dominate the Levant and the entire Middle East.

  177. Fox News: ‘Nikki Haley gains steam as primary heats up.’

    The latest poll: Trump 68, DeSantis 9, Haley 7, Ramaswamy 4, Christie 1, Scott, Burgum 1, Hutchinson 0

    Choo choo.

  178. More.

    ‘Nikki Haley’s Rocket Ride to Second Place’ (!)

    It’s actually ominous that they’re pushing such obvious nonsense. Whatever do they have in mind?

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  179. This makes my morning. 33%!

    ‘President Biden Job Approval TIPP Approve 33, Disapprove 55 Disapprove +22’

    Of course, the new low would seem to be partly an artifact of how the survey was designed; the ‘approve’ plus the ‘disapprove’ only adds up to 88%. Had the questions been designed to force a statement of preference, Biden would have presumably logged 36% or so; it would have gone 36-59-5 or thereabouts.

    Still…

  180. ‘…Most Democrats in Congress have rallied behind Biden’s policy, which combines support for Israel with pressure to minimize civilian casualties…’

    An article I just read mentioned that Israel had killed seven hundred Palestinians in the preceding twenty four hours. There was no indication that any effort was made to avoid civilians.

  181. This is interesting; is intelligence an asset for ordinary combat infantrymen in modern warfare?

    During the Second World War, the U S Army had something called the ‘Army Specialized Training Program’ where men who tested at least one standard deviation above the mean in intelligence were diverted into colleges to take courses allegedly relevant to the war effort. Otherwise, they weren’t a particularly elite group.

    Well, in the winter of 1943, it became apparent the US Army was going to need riflemen a lot more than it was going to need French-speakers or whatever — so the program was cancelled and most of those in it summarily dumped into combat units as privates. Most infantry regiments received anything up to 1500 such individuals, but the 395th got three thousand. It arrived in England in October 1944.

    So how did the 395th do?

    ‘…During the Battle of the Bulge, the regiment—at times virtually surrounded by Germans—was one of the few units that did not yield ground to the attacking Germans.[2]: 33  On at least six occasions they called in artillery strikes on or directly in front of their own positions. Their success in defending Höfen resulted in the 395th Infantry being repeatedly assigned to other divisions for difficult assignments during the remainder of the war, earning them the sobriquet, Butler’s Blue Battlin’ Bastards…’

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  182. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Conversely “MacNamara’s Morons” in the Vietnam War tended to do badly and were often killed unnecessarily.
    Nonetheless US infantry in WW2 tended to be the service that got those not picked up by the tanks, artillery, signals people or air corps. Not just a US phenomenon – in the British Army in the 1970s, recruits were tested for intelligence and the lowest scores that were deemed to pass were generally assigned to the infantry. A relative who worked with the learning-impaired saw some British soldiers and commented to me that some of them seemed to be at the higher end of people she looked after as patients. IQ maybe 75 or so.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  183. @Wielgus

    ‘Conversely “MacNamara’s Morons” in the Vietnam War tended to do badly and were often killed unnecessarily.
    Nonetheless US infantry in WW2 tended to be the service that got those not picked up by the tanks, artillery, signals people or air corps. Not just a US phenomenon – in the British Army in the 1970s, recruits were tested for intelligence and the lowest scores that were deemed to pass were generally assigned to the infantry. A relative who worked with the learning-impaired saw some British soldiers and commented to me that some of them seemed to be at the higher end of people she looked after as patients. IQ maybe 75 or so.’

    I’ve argued that — particularly in the case of the British — the enormous numbers of high-quality personnel sucked up by Bomber Command had to have had a deleterious effect on the army’s performance. One Lancaster’s crew, along with the associated mechanics and ground crew, would equal a markedly improved infantry company.

    Back of the envelope, then, foregoing those thousand-plane raids would have meant thirty infantry divisions performing much better — plus simply a lot more personnel. Add in training establishments, the war plants — you’ve got an army with a good twenty percent more punch. Maybe a lot more, considering there must have been a lot more than a thousand Lancasters et al actually in service.

    Of course, when it was all decided upon — 1940? — there wasn’t any other apparent way of taking the war to Germany, and there were some wildly exaggerated ideas of the potential effect. But if the British had chosen differently, they might have been able to land in Northwest Africa in early 1942, for example — which would have done a lot more to win the war sooner than anything Bomber Command did. Alternatively, a 1943 Overlord might have been feasible.

    …or both! At any rate, morality aside, I think ‘Strategic Bombing’ was a very inefficient use of resources. The war could have been won sooner had the effort been made elsewhere.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  184. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Len Deighton in his novel Bomber wrote that the expense of training a Lancaster crew was about the same as sending them to Oxford or Cambridge for six years.
    I think Britain’s postwar decline was in part due to the effort of maintaining the RAF Bomber Command offensive. Tens of thousands of British and Empire fatalities apart, it was just so damned expensive. The US economy could take on the costs of the 8th Air Force offensive but the British one was nearly wrecked by its efforts, and also became heavily in hock to the USA.
    The British Army in WW2, on the other hand, was a shadow of what it had been in WW1, even if many senior officers had been junior officers in the earlier conflict.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @Colin Wright
  185. Wielgus says:
    @Wielgus

    According to Wikipedia, though (hardly proof of accuracy) 35,000 men from the RAF Regiment and the Royal Artillery were transferred to infantry units in 1944, because the infantry tended to have the lion’s share of casualties and needed replacements.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army_during_the_Second_World_War

  186. @Wielgus

    ‘…The US economy could take on the costs of the 8th Air Force offensive but the British one was nearly wrecked by its efforts, and also became heavily in hock to the USA…’

    There’s also the irony that, while the 8th Air Force was if anything less effective at damaging actual German war production prior to mid-1944, it did make a more significant contribution to the success of the landings in France — albeit not in the way intended.

    First, once the Eighth Air Force could escort its daylight raids over Germany, Luftwaffe day fighter losses swiftly became appalling. Surely this had much to do with the inability of the Luftwaffe to interfere with the struggle in Normandy. On the other hand, whatever Bomber Command did at night, it wasn’t going to shoot down many Me-109’s or Fw 190’s.

    Second, of course, those massive B-17 strikes on German positions in Cobra et al really did work.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  187. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Night fighters were on occasion shot down by Bomber Command gunners, but they were few and far between. Quite frequently they returned to base with .303 bullet holes but the rifle-calibre machine-guns in British bombers were not greatly feared, and for the most part if gunners spotted approaching night fighters in time, the tracer fire’s disorientating and intimidating effect was more significant than the actual damage the bullets were likely to do. Significantly the night fighters were lethal right up to the end – over 1,000 RAF Bomber Command aircrew were killed in the month of April 1945, even if some of their planes were shot down by flak rather than night fighters. The day fighter force was largely out of action by then.

  188. Wielgus says:

    A rumour spread among German night fighter crews that British bombers were going to install a .50 calibre gun underneath, like those in US bombers. This worried the Germans as they often attacked from underneath, but apart from a few experimental examples it never happened. The Germans did fear .50 machine-guns although early US hopes that the gunners would be able to fight off German attacks in daytime proved to be too optimistic.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  189. @Wielgus

    A rumour spread among German night fighter crews that British bombers were going to install a .50 calibre gun underneath, like those in US bombers. This worried the Germans as they often attacked from underneath, but apart from a few experimental examples it never happened. The Germans did fear .50 machine-guns although early US hopes that the gunners would be able to fight off German attacks in daytime proved to be too optimistic.

    On the other hand, there’s a great quote — which I cannot find — from a German ace with occasion to know comparing fighting the Red Air Force, British and American fighters, and B-17’s. The gist was that fighting the Russians, of course, was pretty safe. Even diving into a swarm of Spitfires or P-47’s could be more exciting than terrifying. But turning into a box of B-17’s and beginning that head-on attack…one saw one’s life passing before one’s eyes.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  190. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Is she the Deep State’s choice?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  191. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Luftwaffe aces might have had an easier time on the Eastern Front, although the highest-ranking German ace to be killed in WW2, Otto Kittel, was downed over Latvia in a clash with Soviet aircraft in February 1945. Average Luftwaffe pilots late war did get shot down in large numbers in the east – the same problems of reduced flying hours in training due to high losses and fuel shortages also affected those facing off against the Red Air Force.

  192. @Wielgus

    ‘Luftwaffe aces might have had an easier time on the Eastern Front, although the highest-ranking German ace to be killed in WW2, Otto Kittel, was downed over Latvia in a clash with Soviet aircraft in February 1945. Average Luftwaffe pilots late war did get shot down in large numbers in the east – the same problems of reduced flying hours in training due to high losses and fuel shortages also affected those facing off against the Red Air Force.’

    ! Aces aside, a program was initiated mid-war to share the wealth, so to speak. Pilots in the West, who were risking life and limb to eke out a few kills against Commonwealth and American pilots, would get to go East and run up their score, while those spoiled Eastern Front aces would have to come west and work for a living.

    …it had to be abandoned. Your average East Front pilot — one with, say, twenty kills to his name — would come West and promptly get shot down.

  193. @Wielgus

    ‘Average Luftwaffe pilots late war did get shot down in large numbers in the east – the same problems of reduced flying hours in training due to high losses and fuel shortages also affected those facing off against the Red Air Force.’

    Earlier, the Red Air Force had a lot of issues.

    1. They were still flying a lot of obsolete aircraft. Whatever the cutting edge aircraft, museum pieces like the I-16 were still being produced and flung into combat in large numbers through 1942. An inexperienced pilot in an I-16 versus a trained, experienced German in a Me-109G simply wasn’t a contest.

    2. The Russians don’t seem to have believed in training. This is bad enough when it comes to infantrymen; it’s catastrophic when it comes to aircraft pilots. So many accounts of German kills involve seemingly oblivious Russian pilots. It must have been like getting the jump on the guy standing in front of you in line at the bus stop. Half of these guys must have had their hands full just staying in the air; they weren’t in a position to notice the German lining up on them.

    3. Even when the Russians had nominally equal aircraft, the controls left a lot to be desired. For example, I read of a comparison between an Fw-190 and its Russian rival. Same speed, blah blah — but the Fw-190 took five motions to go from amblin’ along to full combat power.

    The Russian aircraft took thirteen. So your (inadequately trained) Russian pilot is still fumbling with the controls while the Fw-190 has jumped to 400 mph and is coming around for the kill.

    4. That famous Russian quality control. That inexperienced Russian I just mentioned is just figuring out that the control involved in step eight isn’t working today…when he dies. This must have been one reason the Russians were so enamored of mediocre aircraft such as the P-39. At least everything worked.

    5. Utterly unrealistic tactics, thought up by someone with no actual experience of aerial combat. The Germans in 1941 couldn’t believe what they were seeing.

    So put all these together — then assume everything is partially alleviated as the war wears on — and the picture becomes clear. As with the Red Army on the ground, the Russian Air Force started out from a position of total defeat, then gradually built itself up into a formidable force, learning by doing.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  194. Is the establishment getting hysterical — or are they justifying to themselves what they’re about to do?

    ‘If Trump Wins Again, the Truth Won’t Matter’
    Megan Garber, The Atlantic

    ’40 Days Until Iowa, These Trump Voters Looking for Alternatives’
    Jeff Zeleny, CNN

    ‘A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable.’
    Robert Kagan

    ‘Trump Hiding His Fascist Plans in Plain Sight’
    Amanda Marcotte, Salon

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  195. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Red Air Force fighter pilots were ordered to ram Axis aircraft if they were out of ammo or had no other way to bring them down. Overmatched Soviet pilots may have started to do that on the very first day of Barbarossa, though they may simply have been mid-air collisions. The order was not quite kamikaze, but does argue a degree of desperation. The instruction was not lifted until October 1944.
    The P-39 seems to have fitted the Red Air Force’s fighting style. Generally speaking combat in the East was relatively low-level. Fighting above 7,000 feet was rare. At that height the P-39 seems to have done well. Its armament was also liked.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  196. @Wielgus

    ‘The P-39 seems to have fitted the Red Air Force’s fighting style. Generally speaking combat in the East was relatively low-level. Fighting above 7,000 feet was rare. At that height the P-39 seems to have done well. Its armament was also liked.’

    Perhaps — but everywhere else it was detested. It only briefly served as a first-line aircraft in the Mediterranean and Western Europe. In the Pacific, it was regarded as a death trap. The version used there was the export P-400; it was swiftly christened ‘a P-40 with a Zero on its tail.’

    I strongly suspect the Russians liked a lot of this gear for its reliability; after all, the best numbers in the world are meaningless if the Wunderwaffe won’t start. So a nominally unimpressive tank like the Sherman saw extensive use in the East right to the end of the war; even given the availability of a nominally superior tank like the T-34/85. After all, a Sherman that shows up is vastly superior to a T-34/85 that broke down fifty miles back. A P-39 that actually gets into the air and functions as expected is much better than a LaGG-5 that is still sitting on the runway.

    Russian gear seems to have been really unreliable. I remember noticing that the Germans often seem to have been saved by the simple fact that all those awesome tank offensives would self-eviscerate right off the starting line. The __ Guards Tank Army would have 780 runners on Day One, 342 on Day Two, and 53 on Day Four. At that point, it wasn’t so hard to stop.

    Telling in this connection is that British tanks enjoyed an excellent reputation among the Russians for reliability. British tanks were not reliable.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  197. @Wielgus

    ‘Is she the Deep State’s choice?’

    She’s definitely been bought by somebody. She was modestly wealthy, then her parents got into serious trouble financially. Suddenly Haley was making millions and millions via ‘speaking engagements,’ etc, her parents were out of trouble, and she personally was worth ten million or something.

    I’d say that like DeSantis, she loves Israel the very, very bestest. Unlike DeSantis, she doesn’t seriously attack the established order otherwise. No massive fights with the Disney Corporation or whatever. Plus, she’s been bought and paid for. It’s like they have to hope she’ll be a team player. They know she will.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  198. ‘Raising the specter of Trump dictatorship aims to boost Biden; Democrats, media plan campaign’

    Hopefully, that’s all it signifies. Just as Israel has cranked itself up to murdering tens of thousands of innocent men, women, and children by fabricating atrocity stories wholesale, so I suspect the Democrats may be working themselves up to preventing a fair election ‘by any means necessary’ by pretending Trump will create a dictatorship.

  199. @Colin Wright

    Insert a ‘not’ in the next to last sentence.

  200. Those guys…what a bunch of kidders!

    ‘Deadly air strike in Gaza area where Israel told people to go
    18 members of one family were killed in Israeli air attacks in the southern city of Rafah, in a neighbourhood where Israeli forces had told people to go to avoid their assault elsewhere in south Gaza.’

  201. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    It reminds me a bit of how Allende was perceived in the US press, although in his case it was allegedly the onward march of Communism.
    The drumbeat of warnings and also exaggerated headlines is indeed sinister. Like the ground is being prepared for something…

  202. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    World War 2 tanks in general broke down before very long, how they compare with the more sophisticated ones of today I don’t know.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  203. ‘Who’s a good boy, then? Who’s a good boy?

    ‘A dis­grace’: US veto of UN Se­cu­ri­ty Coun­cil cease­fire res­o­lu­tion con­demned’

    Do we get a puppy treat?

  204. @Wielgus

    ‘World War 2 tanks in general broke down before very long, how they compare with the more sophisticated ones of today I don’t know.’

    Some broke down faster than others. In Crusader, the British fielded primarily their own cruiser tanks and American M3 Stuarts.

    The Stuart was nominally the inferior tank: high profile, a weaker main gun, and I believe thinner armor. But two weeks into the battle, a much higher proportion of the Stuarts were still listed as operational. They weren’t very safe, but they did keep running.

    For this reason, although the Sherman is usually derided as a mediocre tank, it had its virtues. Specifically, it was much less likely to break down than a Panther or whatever, and so would seize the objective while the Panther was having an engine fire or whatever twenty miles back.

    In 1941, Glantz supplies some spectacular figures for Soviet armor in the first days of Barbarossa. Soviet Armored Corps basically collapsed as soon as they tried to move. An enormous percentage of the tanks either wouldn’t run at all or broke down within a few miles. Similarly, see the figures for that unfortunate British Armoured Brigade equipped with captured Italian tanks when Rommel showed up. It basically evaporated on the first day — and I’m not sure it even engaged the Germans.

    Reliability isn’t everything — but it matters, and it did vary. A 37 mm gun on a tank that’s still running beats a 50 mm gun on a tank that’s broken down.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  205. @Colin Wright

    Although the Sherman is usually derided as a mediocre tank, it had its virtues.
    Specifically, it was much less likely to break down than a Panther or whatever, and so would seize the objective while the Panther was having an engine fire or whatever twenty miles back.

    Well then, let’s turn our attention to some real world confrontations between German Panther tanks and American Shermans from WWII.
    The following video is titled ‘2 SS Panthers vs. 21 US Shermans’ (you need only watch the few minutes from 4:45 – 9:00), to determine which of the tanks you’d rather be in:

    SUMMARY: The Panthers were rushed into service in mid 1943 at the Battle of Kursk without the necessary reliability trials. Needless to say, they had breakdown issues as one would expect.
    These problems were soon ironed out and, by war’s end, the Panther was regarded by tank experts as the best overall designed tank of WWII (in a comparison between tanks from either side that were produced in at least moderate quantities).

    Meanwhile, UR readers may be interested to read how the M-4 Sherman tanks compared to the German Tiger tanks. Read the following excerpt and make up your own mind:

    The 761st [a Negro Tank Battalion] fought heroically as part of Patton’s Third Army. It struggled with racism during its training period in America prior to its deployment in Europe.
    After its deployment, it was sent into battle in M-4 Sherman tanks, which were characterised (in the book ‘ Brothers in Arms: The Epic Story of the 761st Tank Battalion, WWII’s Forgotten Heroes’), as “one of the deadliest military design failures in history” and “children’s toys” compared to the German Tiger.

    Offensively, the Sherman was armed with a 75mm gun whose shells “bounced harmlessly off the sides of German tanks.” Defensively, the Sherman “lacked sufficient armour for frontal attacks against fixed defensive positions.”
    The numbers tell the story. The Tiger’s 88 millimetre gun could cut through the Sherman’s armour like a hot knife through butter from 1,200 metres away, but in order to have any effect with their 75 mm gun, “American tanks had to close to a range of 400 metres.”

    Eventually, the Americans were forced to devise a strategy which involved sending four Shermans to take out one Tiger. The first three tanks and their crews were sacrificed in the hope that the fourth could get close enough behind the Tiger to fire a round into the thinner armour which protected the Tiger’s diesel engine.

    The Shermans were powered by two Cadillac engines, which gave them speed and mobility advantages over the Tiger, but the engines ran on gasoline, which was more flammable than diesel and produced a raging inferno when an 88mm shell hit the fuel tank or deadly carbon monoxide when the exhaust got blocked.
    Learning their tanks’ design shortcomings firsthand, Sherman crews named them “Iron Coffins” or “Ronsons,” (after a brand of cigarette lighter whose motto was “Lights up every time”).

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  206. @Truth Vigilante

    This is nice, and I agree German tanks were impressive — but you’re missing the point.

    Simple reliability is a major component of military usefulness. A Sherman that is running is a better tank than a Panther or T-34 that isn’t.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  207. @Colin Wright

    A Sherman that is running is a better tank than a Panther or T-34 that isn’t.

    Indeed so.

    And, as I pointed out earlier, once the initial reliability issues were remedied (and they ALL were by the time Panthers encountered Shermans in strength in the aftermath of D-Daye), the Panthers and Tigers shredded the Shermans like confetti.

    To emphasis the degree to which German tanks ran roughshod over the flimsy M4 Shermans, let’s compare the number of tank kills recorded by the leading tank commanders on the respective sides.
    The leading German tank aces of WWII were:

    1) Kurt Knispel … 168 tank kills
    2) Otto Carius …. 150 tank kills
    3) Michael Wittmann …. minimum of 138 tank kills (some sources state he scored 150 + ).

    There are several other German tank aces credited with 100 + kills.

    Let’s compare that to the leading U.S ‘Ace of Aces’ (yes, that’s what the Americans called this guy), from WWII:

    i) Lafayette G. Pool ….. Twelve (12) kills (all with his M4 Sherman).

    Pool survived the war, but not quite intact. In September 1944, while trying to penetrate the Siegfried line, his M4 Sherman encountered a Panther:

    After his tank was struck by the first shell from the German tank,and while Pool’s driver was trying to back his damaged Sherman up, the Panther hit it a second time.
    Positioned precariously on the edge of a ditch, the tank was tipped over by the second round.
    The round killed Pool’s replacement gunner, Private First Class Paul Kenneth King, and threw Pool out of the commander’s hatch, severely injuring him in the leg with shrapnel. The leg was so badly mangled that it would later be amputated 8 inches above the knee.

    And so goes the tale of the ‘reliable Shermans’.
    Yes, they were reliable. You could rely on them to get killed.

  208. @Colin Wright

    Getting up to 30 000, last I heard…

  209. Odd.

    ‘Israel’s YNet on Gaza losses: “More than 2,000 new IDF disabled since the beginning of the war: ‘We have not been through anything like this.’

    Every day the rehab wing takes in about 60 new wounded, and the tsunami of trauma is still ahead of us.”‘

    This doesn’t really correspond to Israel’s admitted losses of about 100 KIA. Twenty wounded for every fatality?

  210. Lol!

    ‘…Israeli troops uncovered a sniper rifle hidden inside a stuffed teddy bear during a search of a school operated by UNRWA in Gaza, after battling terrorists hiding there and using the facility to launch attacks…’

    It must have been a very large teddy bear.

  211. This gives some idea of the scale of destruction Israel is visiting upon its victims.

    ‘Six IDF Reservists Killed in Combat in Gaza, Officer Dies in Car Accident
    Five of the seven were killed in an explosion at a school in northern Khan Yunis and the Israeli army is investigating why the building hadn’t been bombed from the air or hit with artillery fire before the troops entered.

  212. Apparently, when the IDF’s in action, everyone should watch out. So far, they’ve admitted 105 fatalities. Of those…

    ‘…The Israeli army estimates that 13 soldiers who were killed in fighting in Gaza were shot after being mistakenly identified as Hamas members, and that another seven soldiers were killed in other operational accidents during the war…’

  213. Standing with us and Israel against a ceasefire:

    Austria, Czechia, Guatemala, Liberia, Micronesia, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, and Paraguay.

    Morality aside, we need to send Israel a thank you note for all she’s done for our status as a global leader.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  214. Proof at last; human shields are being used in Gaza.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  215. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    From Belarusian/Russian film The Brest Fortress. The Germans resorted to human shields on the Eastern Front in WW2 and even in the Netherlands, May 1940.
    Hardly for the first time, I notice that the IDF has interesting role models…

  216. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Coalition of the willing LOL.

  217. Many UR readers are familiar with Jimmy Dore and his You Tube channel.
    Well, here’s a video Jimmy made a few days ago which you won’t find in his You Tube channel:

    The video is titled ‘Expert Leroy Hulsey DEMOLISHES Establishment Story About WTC Bldg. 7 Collapse! – Jimmy Dore’.
    Professor Hulsey is from the University of Alaska Fairbanks and his analysis demonstrates that the official U.S government/NIST explanation for how Bldg 7 collapsed is bogus.
    This video was demonetised and purged from Jimmy’s You Tube channel, because the hidden hand behind YT instructed them to do so.
    You see, Jimmy Dore has a huge following and popular venues are not allowed to reveal too much truth about the 9/11 False Flag (just like they scrubbed the important videos from the world’s best physicians during the Covid Psyop).

    I suspect this video posted by some entity called Boston 911 Truth will also be taken down.
    UR readers should make a copy of it and repost it again every time it’s taken down.

  218. Name the speaker.

    ‘…They are not humans nor human animals, they are sub-humans and should be treated as such…’

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @bjondo
  219. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I would say Adolf Hitler but I suspect I will be wrong and it turns out to be some Zionist…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  220. bjondo says:
    @Colin Wright

    Name the speaker.

    ‘…They are not humans nor human animals, they are sub-humans and should be treated as such…’

    Any Yid.

  221. According to Seymour Hersh, Israel has come up with a sure-fire plan to encourage Hamas to release its hostages:

    ‘…the official said: “The minute the last hostage is on Israeli soil, the entire [Hamas] leadership—political, religious, and military—will be killed in the countries where they live. Mossad is already tracking them, but killing them before the hostages are out is risky.”…’

  222. @Wielgus

    ‘I would say Adolf Hitler but I suspect I will be wrong and it turns out to be some Zionist…’

    It was the deputy mayor of Jerusalem or some such factotum.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  223. Our civilization arcs ever upwards.

    ‘Queer fabulosity as a means to question heteropatriarchal culture’ – The Lancet

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  224. What a good little gentile.

    ‘GOP Rep. Brian Mast: There Are Very Few “Innocent Palestinian Civilians,” You Wouldn’t Say “Innocent Nazi Civilians”‘

  225. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    The Lancet? Maybe they have decided to become a satirical publication or something…

  226. As someone else mentioned, Jared Taylor has done more for our cause than anyone in this comments section, the obvious distinction being that he is a WN IRL, while the rest of the UNZ crew remains anonymous.

    I don’t think it’s fair to condemn the man for not focusing on the JQ, even if it does seem like a huge blindspot, a blindspot that is very irritating at times.

    I can see why he would have the desire for jews to be on our side, because such a shift would clearly solve most, if not all, of our political problems.

    The thing that Jared has not been able to see is the stubborn irrationality of organized jewry……the headlong balls to the wall rush to destroy every gentile in their path…..the pathological genetic thrust of total supremacy linked with the total destruction of their percieved enemy……and this agenda is beyond reason. How else can you explain the fact that israel continues to murder children in Gaza even as the entire world watches in horror and condemnation.

    Back off? They are just getting started.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  227. Japan’s huge run-up in government debt was due to the “keynesian” fiscal spending they did in the 1990’s in a futile effort to get Japan’s economy out of the post-bubble recession. Naturally, it did not work and now Japan’s government has a huge debt to deal with.

    The Japanese government has been able to get away with this because they have not had to sell their government bonds to foreign investors. Japanese purchasers of those bonds have been willing to accept the near zero rate of return on them because they do not trust the stock market (many individual investors got burned by unscrupulous securities firms during the bubble and the subsequent collapse). However, Japan’s domestic market for government bonds is approaching saturation, at which point they have to sell to foreign investors (who will want a decent rate of return) or cut government spending by 50%.

  228. Hey: Churches are only sanctuaries if the people trying to kill you are Christian.

  229. @Robert Dolan

    ‘…I don’t think it’s fair to condemn the man for not focusing on the JQ, even if it does seem like a huge blindspot, a blindspot that is very irritating at times.

    I can see why he would have the desire for jews to be on our side, because such a shift would clearly solve most, if not all, of our political problems…’

    On the one hand, I’m not a big believer in the value of internicene squabbling, so I try to bite my tongue and take what I can get. If you want perfect agreement, you’ll wind up with an army of one.

    On the other hand, Jews do have a track record of entering causes and subverting them to their own ends. Witness black uplift. Witness the Left; from the IWW to LGBTQ. Witness the old right and Neocons.

    So have the Jews on our side? I’d be careful. Our side will tend to become their side — in the worst sense possible.

  230. The average lifespan of Japanese A-Bomb survivors is expected to be over 88 years, relative to the Japanese average of 84 years.

  231. Far be it from me to argue.

    ‘New York Post
    @nypost
    Majority of Americans 18-24 think Israel should ‘be ended and given to Hamas’ ‘

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  232. I’m afraid Israel whacking their own hostages while they were waving a white flag really is a funny.

  233. I’m afraid it only gets better.

    ‘…The hostages emerged “tens of meters from one of our forces positions,” the IDF official said. The hostages were not wearing shirts and were waving a white flag on a stick, but two were killed immediately, the official said. The third ran away “crying for help in Hebrew.” Though the battalion commander issued a ceasefire order, there was “another burst of fire at” the third hostage, which killed him, the IDF official said…’

    Jeepers. Maybe if you weren’t a nation of maniacally butchering psychopaths, this sort of thing wouldn’t happen. Try not having your children sing songs praising mass killing.

  234. One of the funniest things about the Korea-Japan relationship is that while the US expects Korea to get over it with Japan, it’s completely oblivious to Japanese domestic politics which blames Koreans for everything under the sun. Someone can lick soy sauce bottles and the first reaction on the Japanese internet is it must be some crypto-Korean. Former Japanese prime minister shot? The Koreans must have done it!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  235. bjondo says:

    Most of the good Christmas songs early on. Mostly crap after 1930s:

    The Economics of Christmas Music:

    Songs list after “Jingle All the Way to the Public Domain”

    https://www.mondayeconomist.com/p/christmas-music

    5ds

    • Replies: @bjondo
  236. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    ‘One of the funniest things about the Korea-Japan relationship is that while the US expects Korea to get over it with Japan, it’s completely oblivious to Japanese domestic politics which blames Koreans for everything under the sun. Someone can lick soy sauce bottles and the first reaction on the Japanese internet is it must be some crypto-Korean. Former Japanese prime minister shot? The Koreans must have done it!’

    I wonder how similar they are to each other, culturally? After all, the Japanese came from Korea — and not all that long ago.

    The Japanese are weird. I like them — but they are different, and hard to anticipate. That’s probably reciprocal; the Japanese can’t understand us, either. Maybe for them, the rest of the world are exotic aliens, but the Koreans are comprehensible — and quite, quite unsatisfactory.

    This is all purely hypothetical. I’ve spent a few weeks in Japan, but I’ve never been in Korea.

  237. bjondo says:
    @bjondo

    Mostly crap after 1930s:

    need to add, when Yid involved self.
    Holy replaced by trash

    5ds

  238. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    There was me thinking young Americans were screwed up…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  239. It turns out there is a distinction between Nazi Germany and Israel.

    The Germans are embarrassed about it and find in sites like Auschwitz cause for shame.

    https://twitter.com/asadabukhalil/status/1736449134956314741/photo/1

    Israel would make Gaza into ‘a museum like Auschwitz.’ They would take pride in it. It would be a warning to those who would incur the wrath of Israel.

    The Germans could do the same. Let all look upon Auschwitz and pause before daring to defy Germany…

  240. Israel’s bag for the night:

    Three adults and six juveniles. The male might be suitable for mounting.

  241. @Wielgus

    ‘There was me thinking young Americans were screwed up…’

    It actually does serve as another measure of the gulf between what the media purveys and what people actually think — in spite of what the media tells them to think.

    It’s not just Israel. It’s LGBTQ+ nonsense, immigration, inflation, blacks… More and more, the gulf is becoming so broad that you can’t even see one shore from the other.

    I mean, of course media has always purveyed a slanted image of reality. No, we didn’t all live in 2000 square foot houses, have happy marriages, and drive new cars.

    …but that ideal was something we wanted, what we aspired to, what we preferred to think was there. Now, the America the media fantasizes about is simply unconnected to the average American’s experience and fears (‘aspirations’ are more or less gone).

    We know the sonsabitches are lying. The difficulty is that we haven’t anything to put in its place.

  242. @Noviop Co-Prosperity Sphere

    Your graph doesn’t do justice to the extent of the rise that the Japanese GDP (expressed in USD terms) rose enormously in the years leading up to 2011.
    Not because Japanese GDP (in Yen terms) rose very much, seeing as it increased only incrementally.
    But because the Yen was gaining enormously Vs the USD (the latter had been in freefall after peaking in late 2008/early 2009).

    That’s due to the fact that, in the wake of the 2008 GFC, the U.S went into profligacy mode and started spending like a drunken sailor (bailing out reckless banks and financial institutions like ZOG owned Goldman Sachs-of-shit, AIG etc). To accommodate this the ZOG owned Federal Reserve conjured up trillions from thin air.
    Because the Japanese did not do likewise (to the extent that the BOJ did print/digitally conjure JPY, it was far more subdued in magnitude), this necessarily entailed that the JPY rose enormously Vs the USD.
    Meanwhile, the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel headquartered in the City of London, the cabal that controls the entirety of the western financial system, instructed the BOJ to be profligate and start printing/digitally conjuring scores of trillions of JPY, which would lower the value of the JPY and thus not make the USD look so bad in relative terms.
    But the BOJ refused to do so as this would be inflationary and reckless.
    So, the cartel of Zionist misfits sent them a message.

    And thus the Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami/Fukushima disaster was engineered using HAARP on 11 March 2011 (11/3/11) as a warning for what can occur when any government/central bank defies the wishes of ZOG.
    Soon thereafter the Japanese did as instructed, and the Yen has been in constant decline ever since.

  243. ‘…PA health minister seeks probe into deadly Israeli raid on Gaza hospital
    Israeli forces accused of crushing Palestinians using bulldozers in the courtyard of Gaza’s Kamal Adwan Hospital…’

    Patients, shmatients. But — can the bulldozers reach the premies?

    ‘…12 infants remain inside the incubators in the hospital without water or food…’

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  244. Who’da thought?

    ‘Latinos Most Concerned About Inflation, Jobs, Health Costs

    Hispanics ranked social issues such as abortion, climate change and “racial justice” lower on their list of concerns…’

  245. Moving right along, we are.

    ‘Israeli forces are accused of using bulldozers to crush and bury Palestinians alive as they raided Kamal Adwan Hospital.’

    The video of the aftermath is convincing.

  246. Lol. So an Arab woman has appeared who is going to run against Ilhan Omar.

    Now, why did I see this coming?

    ‘Dalia al-Aqidi — here in Jerusalem — went to Israel to show her support almost immediately after the Hamas attack on October 7th.’

    Presumably her campaign will be massively bankrolled. It would be a waste just to have her run and lose. Sigh…am I going to wind up giving money to Ilhan Omar — of all people?

  247. Israel is very pleased with us. YNET News:

    ‘How John Kirby became one of Israel’s leading spokespeople’

    ‘…Before October 7, the number of Israelis who knew Kirby from a hole in the wall was likely minuscule at best, but that has radically changed. Not only does he work very closely with U.S. President Joe Biden, one of the most ‘Zionist’ presidents in modern times, he himself became an exceptionally accomplished Israeli advocate…’

    Let’s all thump our collective tail. Maybe if we roll over, we’ll get our belly rubbed.

  248. ‘The Vatican has approved a landmark ruling to allow Roman Catholic priests to administer blessings to same-sex couples as long as they are not part of regular Church rituals or liturgies, nor given in contexts related to civil unions or weddings…’

    It’s a slippery slope. Real marriages didn’t used to involve the church. Then the weddings started being held on the porch (circa the eleventh century), then…

  249. @Colin Wright

    Remember, the binary in Japanese society is that you’re either a Japanese (wajin) or a foreigner (gaijin). From this paradigm flows all shades of differentiated treatment both in society and in the law.

    That process even includes Japanese citizens who happen to be white—or any phenotype that deviates from the hada iro (skin color) crayon found in Japan’s grade school supplies. Once you are phenotypically deemed to be “not Japanese,” you likely won’t get equal protection under the law, or be allowed into the public establishments with “Japanese Only” signs and rules around Japan.

    They loathe Koreans and Chinese, and not only justify Japan’s occupation of its Asian neighbors, but also deny its colonial and wartime atrocities. (All while calling the US atomic bombing of Japan racist.)

    Japan has a reflexive self-victimization by scapegoating foreigners, accusing them of crime, terrorism, subversive activities, and a general undermining of all things “Japanese.” To this day, entire political parties, candidates, and hate groups publicly rally for the expulsion of foreigners and the extermination of Koreans.

  250. ‘Remember, the binary in Japanese society is that you’re either a Japanese (wajin) or a foreigner (gaijin). From this paradigm flows all shades of differentiated treatment both in society and in the law.’

    You’re probably right. On the bright side, having been in thirty-odd countries, I found Japanese to be among the most reliably helpful of all the peoples I’ve encountered. In fact, as a connoisseur of approaching people as a conspicuous foreigner who can’t speak the language, I’d rank Japanese as tied with Portuguese for first. The distinction would seem to be that Portuguese help just because they’re friendly, while the Japanese seem to assume an unlimited obligation on their part to solve your problem. In fact, after a few experiences of being led for twenty minutes across town to where I wanted to go, I started asking policemen in kiosks for directions. Not because I particularly like cops, but because the policeman physically couldn’t leave his post, so he’d have to settle for just pointing me in the right direction, which was all I really wanted to make anyone do.

    [MORE]

    Anyway, observations.

    1. Don’t step on tatami mats except in bare feet. You really can do most anything else — but anything but bare feet on tatami mats will make Japanese jump.

    2. If a Japanese doesn’t want to give you something, he won’t. He’ll be scrupulously polite about it, but you ain’t going to get it. You’re never going to get that straight ‘no’ — but you won’t get it either.

    3. The Japanese seem to be obsessive about reciprocity. True story. We’d asked a mother and her daughter for directions, then ran into them in a restaurant — so we shared dinner. We wound up eating about two-thirds of the food, so it seemed obvious to me that I should pay, and I did so. When the mother realized that I had, she seemed aghast at what she took to be her failing.

    …the next morning, we were leaving our inn, when there they were, with a bag of breakfast pastries for us. This was not the only such incident.

    4. Bring all the clothes you need. Nothing is going to fit. Neither my wife nor I are extraordinarily large, but we never could find anything. My wife once managed to get a pair of men’s socks that fit her — after the store staff spent about twenty minutes making it their problem to somehow find her a pair of socks (see my point about helpfulness.)

    5. Japanese trains are awesomely cool. In fact, since Tokyo has an extensive urban rail system, a JapanRail pass is one of the best investments you can make (or at any rate, that was the case in 2014 or whenever it was that we were there).

    6. Unlike some nationalities, Japanese are happy to be photographed, and usually seem gratified if you do so. An exception seemed to be photographing groups of small children. I recall being waved off once or twice when I started to do that.

  251. ‘Rights group says Israel has been conducting field executions of Palestinian detainees in Gaza’

    This just keeps getting more and more like the suppression of the Warsaw Uprising.

  252. Maybe we’ll start dropping aid to the insurgents?

  253. Yes!

    ‘Defying Biden’s plea, Congress skips town without passing aid for Ukraine, Israel’

    I’m probably being optimistic, but perhaps the majority of Congressman have passed from actually wanting to support Israel to merely being concerned to be seen as supporting Israel.

    ‘Gee. I was for it, but the other side just wouldn’t… Too bad, huh?’

    After all, most of these guys watch out for number one, but they are decent enough — and they can see Israel’s evil incarnate.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  254. geokat62 says:

    An Unz contributor needs to pen an in-depth article based on the explosive information contained in the newly released documentary…

    The Fall of Minneapolis

    Description:

    Alpha News is proud to present “The Fall of Minneapolis.” This documentary is provided free of charge due to generous donors. Please consider a 100% tax-deductible donation to support our work and help promote this film: https:// alphanews.revv.co/movie

    The film is based on Liz Collin’s Amazon bestseller, “They’re Lying: The Media, The Left, and The Death of George Floyd,” which exposes the holes in the prevailing narrative surrounding George Floyd’s death, the trial of Derek Chauvin, and the fallout the city of Minneapolis has suffered ever since.

    The documentary features more than a dozen interviews with the people directly involved, including exclusive interviews with former officers Derek Chauvin and Alexander Kueng who spoke to Liz Collin from prison. The families of Chauvin and Kueng also speak out publicly for the first time.

    The film also features current and former Minneapolis police officers who tell their harrowing stories from the riots, recount the planned surrender of the Third Precinct, and explain why so many of them left the job.

    The crowdfunded movie was produced by Alpha News journalist—ed by Dr. J.C. Chaix. Cinematography by Josh Feland.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  255. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I think prior to 1982 and the Lebanon war, it was possible even if wrong to see Israel as a light unto the Gentiles, etc. You had to factor out things like Deir Yassin, what happened to the Liberty, unseemliness by Irgun and LEHI etc. and the way some of them went on to high office after acts of unabashed terrorism, but you could do it with some effort.
    Not after that. I think the advent of Begin as premier of Israel some years earlier was a sea-change although his concluding peace with Sadat initially made him look like a peacemaker rather than the Irgun thug risen to high office he actually was.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  256. @Wielgus

    ‘I think prior to 1982 and the Lebanon war, it was possible even if wrong to see Israel as a light unto the Gentiles, etc…’

    Yeah. I’ve noticed passing references in writing from the Seventies. Israel’s legitimacy is taken for granted; it’s not even a controversial issue. It certainly wasn’t to my mind. It was the ’67 War, Leon Uris’ Exodus, and Israel was mighty fine. Makin’ the desert bloom ‘n shit. Golda Meir. Moshe Dayan. Holocaust survivors! The Palestinians were these nasty terrorists — when they existed at all.

  257. Wielgus says:

    Ah, Leon Uris. I read Exodus a long time ago. I was mainly struck by how anti-British it was. An impression that Uris hated the British, reinforced by reading Trinity, in which Uris expresses approval of Irish nationalism, in which inevitably the British are the villains of the piece. Ironically, Irish Republicans of the 1970s and 1980s got some of their hardware from Arab states and had some links to the PLO etc.

  258. “while in control of the building and the civilians sheltering there, the IDF allegedly separated the men from the women and children, and then shot and killed at least 11 of the men, mostly aged in their late 20’s and early 30’s, in front of their family members. The IDF then allegedly ordered the women and children into a room, and either shot at them or threw a grenade into the room, reportedly seriously injuring some of them, including an infant and a child. OHCHR has confirmed the killings at Al Awda building”

  259. Christmas just wouldn’t be Christmas without…

    ‘…Israeli forces are storming the city of Bethlehem amid a night of West Bank raids, says an Al Jazeera reporter…’

    Maybe they could dress in Santa outfits or something.

  260. Have a Gaza Christmas, Jack D.

    Try not to kvell too loudly.

  261. Maybe ‘one shot two kills’ wasn’t just a tee-shirt.

    ‘Israeli forces ‘kill pregnant women in Gaza, run over bodies with bulldozers’: report’

  262. Merry Christmas to all.

    …well, all I haven’t blocked. Even Corvinus.

  263. ‘Israeli airstrike in Syria kills senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards member’

    Interesting timing. Christmas Day? Maybe we collectively won’t notice and then it’ll be ‘Iran attacks Israel.’

  264. Spot the problem.

    ‘…Currently, 88% of Asian kids live in married parent families; 77% of white kids; 62% of Hispanics and 38% of black children. For Whites, Blacks and Hispanics these are big drops from a decade or so ago. Overall, almost one in three children do not live in a two-parent home.

    Kearney, compiled data showing that, on average, children with only one parent are less likely to succeed academically, go to college, and be economically successful…’

    What happens if you control for blackness?

  265. JackD:

    ‘Got it. Jews are a cancer and must be rooted out.’

    Me:

    I expected a response along these lines. You are (a) avoiding my actual question, and (b) erecting a straw man. To repeat, the actual difficulty I perceive is what is to be done about the excessive influence wielded by American Jews? As I have said several times, it is not that Jews are any worse than anyone else; it is that they just have too much power proportionate to their numbers.

    ‘Rooting the Jews out’ is in fact a solution I would prefer to avoid. As to being an antisemite, yes…I have been forced to the conclusion that there is no alternative to antisemitism.

    But that was your doing, not mine. I spent the first forty years of my life not being one; whether someone was a Jew or not just didn’t strike me as a significant consideration.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
    , @muh muh
  266. @Colin Wright

    As I have said several times, it is not that Jews are any worse than anyone else; it is that they just have too much power proportionate to their numbers.

    Indeed, rank and file Jewry are (for the most part), no worse than anyone else.

    That said, the small sliver of Malevolent Jewry that comprise the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG), that killed JFK/RFK/JFK Jr, that orchestrated the 9/11 False Flag, that conjured up the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax and the Covid Psyop/Mass cull of humanity (to name just a few of their misdeeds), and simultaneously control the entirety of the western financial system, this subset of depraved misfits are the embodiment of evil.

    SUMMARY: There is no comparable cabal in all of human history that have caused so much death and despair to their fellow man than ZOG.

    It is literally blue sky to the second place getter, as far as murder, mayhem, mendaciousness and mischief is concerned. No other cabal/secret society is remotely close.

  267. ‘Indeed, rank and file Jewry are (for the most part), no worse than anyone else.

    That said, the small sliver of Malevolent Jewry that comprise the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG), that killed JFK/RFK/JFK Jr, that orchestrated the 9/11 False Flag, that conjured up the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax and the Covid Psyop/Mass cull of humanity (to name just a few of their misdeeds), and simultaneously control the entirety of the western financial system, this subset of depraved misfits are the embodiment of evil.’

    I would insist that this misstates the problem, and so points to a futile response.

    It’s not a matter of a few elite Jews being ‘bad’ and the bulk of Jews being just mighty fine. 80% of all Jews voted for Biden. They provided half the Freedom Riders. If you read an article praising or somehow endorsing Transgender Nonsense, odds are the authors will be Jewish.

    Etc. And indeed, it’s not the individual Jew. He has his various views — just as surely as a Mormon would, or an Armenian, or an Irishman. It’s the aggregate weight, and it’s that they overwhelmingly push in one direction, and it’s that they’re so good at pushing.

    We are confronted with a group that is collectively putting its thumb on one side of the scale, and pushing down hard — and pushing down to catastrophic effect. I don’t know what would be best done about it — but I am sure that not admitting it isn’t the road to a solution.

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  268. @Colin Wright

    I would insist that this misstates the problem …… It’s not a matter of a few elite Jews being ‘bad’

    It pinpoints the problem PRECISELY. It is exactly a few elite Jews that are calling all the shots.
    That you are unaware of this is proof that you have no idea who exactly runs the western world.

    We are confronted with a group that is collectively putting its thumb on one side of the scale, and pushing down hard — and pushing down to catastrophic effect …. 80% of all Jews voted for Biden.

    It matters not whether 80% of Jews for voted for Biden or 180% did so. That’s because the U.S electoral system is rigged. The cabal decides who triumphs. Elections are just a charade to give the impression that democracy exists.
    Similarly, this group that you refer to that is ‘collectively putting its thumb on one side and pushing down hard’ is NOT the bulk of rank and file Jewry.
    ALL directives are coming from a tiny sliver of miscreants seated at the head of the table (bankers located in the City of London).
    To the extent that many rank and file Jews go along with it is due to the fact that they’re looked after by the cabal. Because there is a degree of tribal loyalty, they’re given cushy jobs, allowed to attend Ivy League universities ahead of other students who are more scholastically gifted etc.
    So to that extent they’re just conscience free opportunists.

    Lastly you write:

    I don’t know what would be best done about it — but I am sure that not admitting it isn’t the road to a solution.

    Judging from your comment, you’re clueless as to how ZOG got and greatly expanded on its power.
    The first step in bringing about the demise of ZOG has been mentioned by me and others in the pages of UR on numerous occasions.
    ZOG owns/controls the U.S Federal Reserve and the other major western central banks.
    It can thus print/digitally conjures SCORES OF TRILLIONS with a key stroke to dole out to itself and its small hat cronies – and indeed has done so in the aftermath of the 2008 GFC.

    SUMMARY: Therefore, the first step is to confiscate this River of Riches from ZOG. Because it costs a ton of moolah to perpetrate assassinations like that of JFK/RFK/JFK Jr, to orchestrate the 9/11 False Flag, the Holohoax, the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax and the Covid Psyop (to name just a few of their egregious acts of depravity).

    Deprived of that ‘River of Riches’, ZOG would not be able to implement even a fraction of their mischief making.
    And most importantly of all, ZOG does NOT consist of the overwhelming bulk of Jewry.
    It is exclusively composed of a small subset of dynastic Jewish families and their descendants (the Rothschilds, Sassoons, Kadoories, Montefiores, Schiffs, Warburgs etc).

    Ordinary Jews have no say in the matter. Those at the top have no qualms when it comes to sacrificing the lives of lowly Jews if it advances their long term agenda.
    This has been demonstrated on countless occasions.

  269. Anyway, now Israel is carrying out ‘extensive’ strikes in Lebanon.

    I realize all politicians are primarily concerned with the domestic political situation, and from that point of view, Netanyahu’s actions may seem entirely reasonable — but the fact remains that from an international point of view, they are mad.

    This could end with Israel becoming terminally isolated.

    Inshallah.

  270. From al Jazeera:

    ‘…The Qassam Brigades have been taking heavy losses but most of its battalions remain effective combat units. Institute for the Study of War, an influential and well-informed US think tank estimates that out of 26 to 30 battalions of fighters, which were believed to exist on October 7 – each having 400 to 1,000 men, only three have been rendered inoperable – or, in civilian parlance, destroyed.

    Of the remainder, four or five have been “degraded”, meaning that their strength is reduced but they continue to fight, either alone or by joining other units…’

    https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/12/30/analysis-has-israel-weakened-hamas-enough-to-win-the-war-on-gaza

    In short, Israel is nowheres near destroying Hamas. They may yet commit national suicide trying — but they’re not going to destroy Hamas. In fact, they’re only making Hamas more legitimate.

  271. This is interesting.

    ‘Turkey has reportedly detained 33 people suspected of spying on behalf of Israel.

    The authorities are still searching for 13 other people believed to have links to Israel’s Mossad security service, the Anadolu Agency reported on Tuesday. Ankara has previously warned that it will not allow Israel to strike at Hamas inside Turkey’s borders.

    The suspects were detained in raids in Istanbul and seven other provinces for allegedly planning to carry out activities that included “reconnaissance” and “pursuing, assaulting and kidnapping” foreign nationals living in Turkey, the agency reported…’

    Turkey can be decidedly idiosyncratic — but she is rarely demented.

    It follows that Israel really is going off the deep end.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  272. muh muh says:
    @Colin Wright

    Seems Sailer runs a pretty uptight ship.

    muh muh says:
    January 2, 2024 at 11:31 pm GMT • 1 minute ago • 400 Words ↑
    @Jack D

    So the Arabs were not bound to the Partition and could fight for whatever territory they could grab but the Israelis had to stick with the Partition lines?

    Counselor, you should know better than to hawk a straw man.

    Israel’s declaration of statehood on May 15, 1948 did not have U.N. Security Council ratification. Israel did so extrajudicially, before the U.N.’s Special Committee on Palestine could resolve the outstanding issues of the Partition Plan’s inequities. It is this premature declaration, in addition to the myriad massacres and expulsions Jewish terrorists carried out for months aforehand, that caused Arab armies to attack that same day.

    Over there, land grabbing is exclusively an Israeli thing, as proven to this day. They are the reason “[n]o one but no one thinks that Israel has to go back to the original Partition map.”

    all serious players (this does not count those like Hamas who reject Israel’s entire right to exist) even on the Arab and Palestinian side, do not seek any territory inside Israel’s pre-June 1967 boundaries

    Interesting you should mention Hamas, who, back in 2017, offered Israel an opportunity for détente along those very boundaries. I recall this being a shock to many in the Muslim world as well, as it meant that Hamas had explicitly violated their earlier charter.

    Naturally, the fact that Hamas was willing to make at least this concession met with about as much success as Arafat’s overtures for peace (minus the Nobel) — that is to say, none. You’ll also want to look into the late-stage Taba talks on the heels of Oslo. Forget 1967. Arafat was willing to take considerably less. Ask Shlomo Ben-Ami, who presided over the talks, what caused them to collapse.

    Hint: It wasn’t Arafat.

    One very good thing that has come out of Oct. 7 and its continuing aftermath is that Israel’s inhumanity has been fully unmasked, even in mainstream media. Netanyahu openly refers to “Amalek” and his ministers are some of the most tactlessly racist, bellicose chickenhawks this side of the Jordan.

    As a long time follower of this conflict, it’s very encouraging to see so many young folk rise above Israel’s torrential deluge of lies. Promising tomorrows, indeed.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  273. @muh muh

    ‘Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew are named in court documents detailing people connected to disgraced financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein…’

    Yet Ehud Barak would appear to have been erased. What are the odds?

  274. ‘…The killing of an Iranian proxy commander came on the day the US secretary of state, Antony Blinken, was due to leave on a new tour of the Middle East, at a time when it is in ever-rising danger of sliding into a regional conflict. In the days before the Baghdad strike, more than 80 Iranians were killed in an apparent suicide attack claimed by the Islamic State, Israel killed a Hamas leader with a missile strike in the Beirut suburbs, and the US issued a joint threat with 11 of its allies to attack positions held by the Iranian-backed Houthi forces in Yemen if there were further Houthi attacks on international shipping in the Red Sea…’

    Jeepers. Whoever could be behind it all?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  275. @Colin Wright

    Colin:

    For more than two days, the following comment by me in reply to a comment by Jack D (see here for Jack’s comment to which I tried to reply) has been stuck in indefinite moderation on Steve Sailer’s blog.

    The following, under the long line, is verbatim what I tried to post: I think everyone will agree that there is no coarse language, no personal threats, no personal insults directed at Jack D.

    Indeed, some opinion polls seem to show that this may now be close to the majority opinion in the US.

    But Sailer seems not to want such opinions posted. The same thing has happened to other comments about the Gaza genocide I have tried to post on Steve’s blog.

    You recently asked on Sailer’s blog:

    [Jack D] …Keep in mind we are in the midst of a war and the post war situation is still unclear and subject to bargaining…’

    [Colin] That’s interesting. What’s this ‘we’ you’re part of, Jack?

    It does seem that perhaps Steve agrees with Jack D as to who “we” are.

    Too bad.

    Especially since a large fraction of the American people — an actual majority according to some polls — are finally waking up.

    And, again: no, I am not suggesting and have never suggested that all Jews are bad or that “the Jews” control America. Merely that some horrible things are happening in Gaza and that it is bad to support those horrible things. And, at long last, it seems that most Americans agree with me and disagree with Jack D and Steve Sailer.

    Americans are finally “noticing.”

    Steve’s blog is his sandbox (as long as Ron subsidizes it!), and Steve can do as he wishes.

    But it is too bad that Steve seems to have turned against America. I wonder how they got to him.
    _____________________

    My attempted reply to Jack D:

    Jack D wrote to muh muh:

    So the Arabs were not bound to the Partition and could fight for whatever territory they could grab but the Israelis had to stick with the Partition lines? Got it. Heads I win, tails you lose.

    No.

    The “Partition” was a war crime committed by the major Powers against the helpless Palestinians, by which the Allied Powers tried to assuage their guilt over what Europeans had done to the Jews — the Holocaust and all that, you know.

    It had no moral force over the Palestinians at all. The “United Nations” at that time was just a club of the victorious Powers, and they did whatever they wanted to innocent people all over the planet.

    Evil, vicious thugs — mirror images of the evil defeated Axis Powers: Soviet totalitarians, Western imperialists, etc.

    It was simple arbitrary brute force imposed upon the Palestinians, nothing more, nothing less.
    And on October 7, Hamas responded with some brute force of their own.

    No: two wrongs don’t make a right.

    But Bibi’s over-reaction is playing into Hamas’ hands.

    All I want is an end to the killing, which seems not to be imminent.

    But we can at least hope that when these horrors are over, the evil thug Benjamin Netanyahu (né Mileikowsky) will pay dearly for some of his crimes.

  276. @PhysicistDave

    Physicist Dovid (aka Phy-Do) writes:

    For more than two days, the following comment by me in reply to a comment by Jack D ….. has been stuck in indefinite moderation on Steve Sailer’s blog.

    I’m shocked to hear that. As is well known, Steve Sailer has Talmudic benefactors, and thus he’ll never allow commentary that criticises the official ZOG narrative.
    In particular, from the limited time I spent posting comments in Steve Sailer threads, I recall that ‘Jack D’ (aka Yacob D), was one particularly mendacious and malevolent Jew, and Sailer will not tolerate anyone criticising him.

    Therefore, RULE # 1 in Sailer threads is:
    Never post opposing views to favoured Jews that Sailer has anointed as beyond reproach.
    Said Jews are deemed to have something equivalent to ‘Papal Infallibility’ and must never be doubted.

    I found that out firsthand when Sailer not only put comments of mine into prolonged moderation (sometimes for weeks), but outright purged them when I emphatically demonstrated that the Holohoax was a fraud.

    Meanwhile, seeing as you Physicist Dovid (aka Phy-Do or Fi-Do), have demonstrated in no uncertain terms in the 9/11 threads that you’re an apologist for ZOG malfeasance, I would’ve thought that put you in Steve Sailer’s good books.
    Perhaps Sailer is not aware of your efforts to ingratiate yourself with the depraved Talmudic misfits that perpetrated the 9/11 False Flag ? I suggest you alert him to that fact and he’ll never put your comments in moderation ever again.
    In fact, he’ll elevate you to his inner circle of small hat disinfo peddlers and obfuscators.

    Go ahead Phy-Do, post a link to one of your comments in the 9/11 threads where you totally grovel** on behalf of your ZOG masters. That’ll ensure that you’re allowed to post* as before without fear of censorship.
    (**For UR readers not familiar with Phy-Do’s track record, this pretend physicist is in agreement with the official ZOG narrative that the Twin Towers came down in a fire induced gravity collapse, when it is evident to all that they were blown up in a controlled demolition).

    (*For the life of me I don’t know why anyone would want to read/participate in Steve Sailer threads anyway. Other than the lone thread of his where he dealt with the Holohoax (representing 95% of my word count contribution to Steve Sailer threads), his articles are invariably DEAD BORING and deal with insubstantial FLUFF).
    The people commenting there are, for the most part, brain dead morons.

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    , @Odyssey
  277. @PhysicistDave

    ‘For more than two days, the following comment by me in reply to a comment by Jack D (see here for Jack’s comment to which I tried to reply) has been stuck in indefinite moderation on Steve Sailer’s blog…’

    Yeah, that is irritating — particularly when one hasn’t said anything grossly insulting. And it does seem to happen most frequently in response to JackD’s comments — which often are insulting.

    …and there’s no stated policy. One’s posts aren’t even explicitly censored. They just go off into Nacht und Nebel Land.

    …and that it happens to you is, to say the least, puzzling. You’re no saint, but you rarely if ever go overboard, and I for one regard you as obstinately blind when it comes to the Jewish Question.

    It seems JackD enjoys special protection. Why?

    Steve?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  278. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    For more than two days, the following comment by me in reply to a comment by Jack D (see here for Jack’s comment to which I tried to reply) has been stuck in indefinite moderation on Steve Sailer’s blog….But Sailer seems not to want such opinions posted. The same thing has happened to other comments about the Gaza genocide I have tried to post on Steve’s blog.

    That’s too bad, but I’m not surprised. Steve has generally been very unwilling to allow contrasting views on various touchy subjects.

    I’m not sure if you’ve looked at it, but last month I published a very lengthy review article on the origins of the State of Israel, and your own views are certainly correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-nakba-and-the-holocaust/

    At some point, you really should consider investigating the Holocaust, which obviously constitutes the universal get-out-of-jail-free card that the Israelis have been using for generations, certainly including today. As far as I can tell, the Holocaust really is an almost complete hoax from top to bottom, and given its massive quasi-religious status after three generations, the collapse of that gigantic nonsensical belief would constitute an unprecedented ideological earthquake. I think it would take exactly such an earthquake to dislodge the Israel Lobby from its current political control and halt the horrific ongoing in Gaza. If you’re interested, here’s a reasonable place to start:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/why-everything-you-know-about-world-war-ii-is-wrong/#question-7-the-holocaust

    On a related matter, just a few days ago I read an excellent academic journal article on the early history of “Holocaust denial” and based upon the author’s archival research, your old friend Murray Rothbard seems to have been quite supportive of that movement and apparently well-connected with the other participants, so his views were apparently pretty similar to my own. If you’re interested, here’s a link to a the article PDF and you can CTRL-F to locate the various references to Rothbard:

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Holocaust-Denial-History-project_muse_804147.pdf

  279. @Truth Vigilante

    My little buddy Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    I’m shocked to hear that. As is well known, Steve Sailer has Talmudic benefactors, and thus he’ll never allow commentary that criticises the official ZOG narrative.

    That’s actually not true: Sailer has over the last couple of years allowed criticisms of Jews and Zionists to be posted that are far, far harsher than my own.

    As you well know, I am actually a moderate on the issue: I do not believe “the Jews” control the country or that all Jews are bad. I do think, as most Jews themselves acknowledge (they are quite proud of it!), that Jews have influence out of proportion to their number and that they are willing to use all the political chips they have to go after anyone who criticizes Zionism.

    My crazy little buddy also wrote:

    Meanwhile, seeing as you Physicist Dovid (aka Phy-Do or Fi-Do), have demonstrated in no uncertain terms in the 9/11 threads that you’re an apologist for ZOG malfeasance, I would’ve thought that put you in Steve Sailer’s good books.
    Perhaps Sailer is not aware of your efforts to ingratiate yourself with the depraved Talmudic misfits that perpetrated the 9/11 False Flag ? I suggest you alert him to that fact and he’ll never put your comments in moderation ever again.
    In fact, he’ll elevate you to his inner circle of small hat disinfo peddlers and obfuscators.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.

    My crazy little pal also wrote:

    For UR readers not familiar with Phy-Do’s track record, this pretend physicist is in agreement with the official ZOG narrative that the Twin Towers came down in a fire induced gravity collapse, when it is evident to all that they were blown up in a controlled demolition)

    Indeed.

    Physics is.

    You’re not.

    Eppur si muove.

    Take care of yourself, little buddy.

  280. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    Yeah, that is irritating — particularly when one hasn’t said anything grossly insulting.

    Well, I certainly have insulted “Gandydancer” who keeps lying in bizarrely simplistic ways, which can easily be checked in standard references, and who keeps insulting me and others.

    That is probably Steve’s excuse.

    And I have loudly agreed with John Mearsheimer that what is happening in the Gaza is genocide.

    If Sailer is banning me for agreeing with John Mearsheimer… well, I am actually quite proud of that!

    Colin also wrote:

    It seems JackD enjoys special protection. Why?

    Jack D is a lawyer and presumably has a lot of money. Steve always needs money. Could be as simple as that.

    I’ve lost professional positions because I was unwilling to lie or break the law. Perhaps Sailer’s standards are just not as high as mine.

    Or just maybe Sailer saw what they did to Liz Magill, a president of an Ivy who had done nothing wrong at all, and Steve started thinking about what they could do to him.

    The one thing I am quite sure of: I have been in situations like this before (this situation is simply funny — the others were serious), and the perps never, ever give an honest answer as to their motives.

    At least we now know who Steve really is.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  281. @Ron Unz

    Ron, you’re probably already aware of this, but for the edification of other UR readers, this is what Wikipedia has to say about the great Libertarian Murray Rothbard and his position on the Holohoax:

    Rothbard embraced “historical revisionism” as an antidote to what he perceived to be the dominant influence exerted by corrupt “court intellectuals” over mainstream historical narratives. His friend Harry Elmer Barnes, the Holocaust-denying historian, used similar language, “court historians”.
    Rothbard characterised the revisionist task as “penetrating the fog of lies and deception of the State and its Court Intellectuals, and to present to the public the true history”.

    Rothbard worked with antisemitic writers in developing an isolationist revisionist history of World War II. He was influenced by and called a champion of Barnes. Rothbard favourably cited Barnes’ view that “the murder of Germans and Japanese was the overriding aim of World War II”.
    In an obituary for Barnes, Rothbard wrote: “Our entry into World War II was the crucial act in foisting a permanent militarisation upon the economy and society, in bringing to the country a permanent garrison state, an overweening military–industrial complex, a permanent system of conscription. It was the crucial act in creating a mixed economy run by Big Government, a system of state monopoly capitalism run by the central government in collaboration with Big Business and Big Unionism.”

    Rothbard’s endorsing of World War II revisionism and his association with Barnes and other Holocaust deniers have drawn criticism. Kevin D. Williamson wrote an opinion piece published by National Review which condemned Rothbard for “making common cause with the ‘revisionist’ historians of the Third Reich”, a term he used to describe American Holocaust deniers associated with Rothbard, such as James J. Martin of the Institute for Historical Review.

    The piece also characterised “Rothbard and his faction” as being “culpably indulgent” of Holocaust denial, the view which “specifically denies that the Holocaust actually happened or holds that it was in some way exaggerated”.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  282. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…At least we now know who Steve really is.

    I don’t think we do. His behavior is inconsistent enough that whether we want to give him the benefit of it or not, there’s considerable doubt.

    What’s up? I know if I include the word ‘nigger’ in a post or say ‘fuck you,’ it may very well not appear, but beyond that? It’s unclear what the rules are. What decides whether a response to JackD goes off into limbo land or not? I can frigging eviscerate Brother Jack; the post promptly goes up. I can attempt a measured and judicious reply — Nacht und Nebel.

  283. Ron Unz says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Ron, you’re probably already aware of this, but for the edification of other UR readers, this is what Wikipedia has to say about the great Libertarian Murray Rothbard and his position on the Holohoax:

    Sure, I’d been well aware that Rothbard had been a strong supporter of WWII “Revisionism” and I’d seen some rumors that he’d been sympathetic to Holocaust Denial. But the archival material presented in that journal article seemed much stronger than that.

    The first serious work of Holocaust Denial had been produced by Prof. David Hoggan during the 1960s, eventually published without his name or permission as by an anonymous author, leading to a nasty lawsuit. But apparently Rothbard had been one of the small number of individuals who’d seen the early draft as it was circulating and had been quite supportive and encouraging of his effort. That’s something I’d never suspected.

  284. Apparently, it’s the Christian thing to do.

    Mister Christian signs bombs to be used to kill women and children.

    I wonder. Would he have autographed Zyklon B cylinders if he had thought it would get him votes?

  285. Odyssey says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Pretty good description. It’s not a problem that the iSteve blog is dominated by the West Coast community topics and the commentators are mostly those stereotypical Yanks we see in holiday movies as tourists abroad. Mostly, they are brainwashed coke-drinkers and macca-eaters, who have been persuaded by the narrative leaders that they are exceptional. Arrogance and stupidity are their main character traits. True, some are funny and remind of the leading characters of the movie Dumb&Dumber.

    If you mention something outside their field of vision, they are immediately hostile and patronizing towards you. If you accidentally point on some falsifications in the official narrative (e.g. in old, pre-Yanks, history or 9/11, etc), then they will explain to you from a superior height and without any specific knowledge what the unquestionable truth is.

    I’ve had at least two accidental encounters of the third kind with two specimens who got annoyed when I wrote something that couldn’t fit into their brain circuits. For the sake of story, let’s call them PsychoD and Jaydotross.

    However, Steve is a basketball buff and the occasional basketball write-up is quite informative and attracts a large number of people with excellent basketball knowledge. Currently, there is one about a good Mexican basketball player (not an oxymoron). And I always appear there when I notice some text, since the top basketball seems to be played only by blacks and Serbs. There are also good texts dedicated to the vintage music where comments from good connoisseurs also appear.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  286. Here’s a fine, random sample to investigate (and I haven’t yet: this is live action).

    So…how disproportionate to their population is Jewish influence in America?

    ‘Media Matters’ major contributors.

    Brace yourself for this shocking surprise — they’re all Democratic megadonors.

    • Deborah J. Simon: $4,000,000
    • Gill Foundation: $2,970,000
    • Josh and Anita Bekenstein: $1,750,000
    • Stephen M. Silberstein Foundation: $1,900,000
    • Susan T. Buffett Foundation: $1,751,199′

    Now, whoever posted this doesn’t even seem to have been thinking about Jews. He’s apparently concerned to demonstrate that ‘Media Matters’ is a Democratic front group. So, in a sense, the sample above is objective, if not precisely large.

    Some I can identify without checking: Buffett, gentile, Bekenstein, Jew, Silberstein, Jew. Deborah Simon turns out to be Jewish.

    Three out of five; four out of five? The Gill Foundation?

    Tim Gill…can’t find out. Regardless, for a population numbering 2% of the population, which is excessive? 60% or 80%?

  287. Ho hum. Life with Jack’s people.

    ‘Female prisoners were transported in cages, their clothes were stained with blood, most were bleeding from their hands, subjected to strip searches; Israeli soldiers subjected male prisoners to electric shocks, burned their skin with lighters, spat in their mouths…’

  288. I urge everyone to watch this clip from The Grayzone on what the IDF actually intends to do to Gaza (go to time 7:47 for the key passage):

    The key quote from this IDF monster:

    “You ask me what I would do and the answer is simply leveling the ground. And to kill the largest number possible. Because the woman there is an enemy, the baby there is an enemy. And the first grader there is an enemy.”

    This is genocide.

    This is what the monstrous Zionist thugs intend to do.

    I am going to try to post this on Sailer’s blog.

    Anyone want to give odds that Steve will let it through?

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  289. ‘but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.’

    ‘Israeli army looted money, gold artifacts from Gaza Strip, amounting to approximately $25 million, says Gaza Media Office

    1 method of theft involved stealing from displaced people at checkpoints’

  290. @Ron Unz

    Ron Unz wrote to me:

    That’s too bad, but I’m not surprised. Steve has generally been very unwilling to allow contrasting views on various touchy subjects.

    No, actually I don’t think that that is what is happening.

    I think this is due to a very significant and dramatic change in Steve over the last two years.

    I am one of the most senior commenters on Steve’s blog: I was commenting on his old blog before you brought him over to unz.com, so I have been able to follow the evolution of Steve’s behavior longer than most other commenters here.

    And I have posted various controversial comments on his blog over the years – for example, criticizing Christianity – which Steve had no problem with letting through.

    In fact, by normal standards, I have views that are less inflammatory than most of his commenters: compared to most of his commenters, for example, I would count as a “philo-Semite” (to be sure, I am not really either a philo-Semite or an anti-Semite: I simply apply the same standards to Jews and to Gentiles alike). And, unlike many of his commenters, I am not a White supremacist. That Steve allows very blatant anti-Semitic and White supremacist comments to be posted indicates that what is going on currently is really not just a matter of Steve being “unwilling to allow contrasting views on various touchy subjects.”

    The problem is foreign policy: to put it bluntly, Steve has turned his coat. In the last couple years or so, Steve has gone over to the side of the Empire and has turned against the American Republic and the American people.

    Steve is of course famous for inventing the phrase “Invade the World, Invite the World” as a critique of American foreign policy and immigration policy, and Steve is also famous for spreading the meme of the “Deep State” to describe the military-intelligence-bureaucratic complex that has displaced the American Republic.

    That Steve of all people has turned his coat and now serves the Hegemon is therefore especially sad.

    But that really is what has happened.

    The comments by me that Steve is blocking are comments in which I am denouncing the ongoing genocide in Gaza by America’s “ally” Israel, a genocide made possible by arms being supplied by the US.

    Current polls indicate that a majority of the US population wants a cease-fire and an end to the genocide in Gaza: my view on this is hardly controversial. Indeed, it is one of the least controversial views I or anyone has voiced in Steve’s comment section.

    But it is unacceptable to Steve: Steve has gone over to the Deep State that he once heroically denounced.

    If I were conspiracy-minded, I would suggest that Steve had a visit from some very serious men in dark suits who warned him of what could happen to dissidents – vide Liz Magill or, even more, Julian Assange. Maybe they even offered the proverbial thirty pieces of silver.

    In the world of 2024, that is, alas, not unthinkable.

    But, quite frankly, I doubt that Steve is important enough to warrant that level of attention.

    My suspicion is that it is merely a matter that people, as they reach their final decades, tend to become more conservative and conformist and more seeking of acceptance and approval. Steve is getting old.

    Steve and some of his admirers have suggested on various occasions that he could have been really successful had he toed the Deep State line. But that is not really true – Steve is no Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens or even Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh. Steve is an ex-marketing guy who knows how to take publicly available data and use it to illustrate what all adults (Blacks, Whites, liberals, or conservative) already know: e.g., Blacks commit more crimes than Whites, Asians do better academically than Hispanics, etc.

    Sailer’s shtick has been simply to say these things publicly, whereas most people just express them in private conversations.

    The one point on which Steve really could claim some originality was his emphasis on “Invade the World, Invite the World” and on the “Deep State.” And Steve has now turned against that.

    I myself first realized that this was happening when Putin finally had had enough of the crimes against humanity being committed by the US and its puppet in Kiev against the people of the Donbass almost two years ago. Sailer could not grasp why so many of us denounced the 2014 Maidan coup d’etat orchestrated by the US Deep State and the US propping up of the neo-Nazi puppet regime in Kiev.

    That was the canary in the coal mine with regard to Steve.

    But the final breaking point came with the genocide in Gaza: Steve clearly will not tolerate those of us who loudly and uncompromisingly denounce what most of the world recognizes to be crimes against humanity by the US and its client state in the Gaza Strip.

    Again, it is very sad that Steve has gone over to the Deep State. But that is very, very clearly what has happened.

    This, alas, is very common among dissident movements in the history of the US. Jemmy Madison, the most famous associate of Thomas Jefferson, governed as a Federalist, not a Jeffersonian, when he became President.

    And, in the twentieth century, the young radical Walter Lippmann became a stalwart pillar of the Establishment, the young Trot Irving Kristol become the father of neoconservatism, etc.

    I myself have observed this up-close and personal among libertarians: when I was a grad student at Stanford back around 1980, I was friends with Williamson Evers, one of Murray Rothbard’s closest associates. Bill was a fiery radical libertarian: I myself worked on Bill’s Congressional campaign when he ran as a Libertarian.

    As late as 1990 or so, Bill chastised some of us here in Sacramento for daring to invite as a speaker Professor Joseph Fuhrig. Joe’s sin, in Bill’s eyes, was that Joe had spoken to a meeting of Republicans. Joe was in fact an outspoken libertarian and was not a Republican, but merely speaking to a gathering of Republicans was enough to anathematize Joe in Bill’s eyes!

    But within a decade or so, Bill had completely flipped: to quote from his Wikipedia article:

    In the late 1990s, Evers began to work in the Republican Party, serving on George W. Bush’s transition team after the 2000 election and acting as a Bush adviser in the 2000 and 2004 campaigns and as a McCain adviser in 2008 and a Romney adviser in the 2012 presidential elections. In California, Evers has also served on the Republican State Central Committee and acted as an adviser to several Republican gubernatorial campaigns

    He went on leave from Hoover to serve as Assistant Secretary for the Office of Planning, Evaluation and Policy Development in the United States Department of Education in 2007 to 2009. At the beginning of September 2016, he was selected to lead the “agency action team” for the Department of Education in the Trump-Pence transition

    I’m not condemning this, merely showing how dramatically a radical political activist can change his coat: from Bill’s condemning a person for merely speaking to a group of Republicans to Bill himself becoming an actual Republican apparatchik.

    The one thing that does stick in my throat a bit is the following, also from Wikipedia:

    From July to December 2003, [Evers] served as a senior education adviser to the Coalition Provisional Authority during the U.S. occupation of Iraq.

    I can grasp how Bill might have convinced himself that he might do some good by advising even scum like John McCain.

    But for my old radical libertarian friend to actually participate in the “U.S. occupation of Iraq”?

    Well, I think that is comparable to our friend Steve Sailer choosing to censor comments opposing the genocide in Gaza. I quoted in its entirety in my comment above to which you replied one of my comments which Steve chose to censor. Anyone can read it and see that it was not insulting to anyone, did not use coarse language, and in fact made a rather obvious point.

    But it is no longer acceptable to the 2024 version of Steve Sailer, although he seems to still have no problem with various anti-Semitic and White supremacist comments.

    Like my old friend Bill Evers, Steve has gone over to the side of evil.

    Sorry for the length of this reply, but I think my close to two decades observing Steve Sailer’s sad devolution, and my own similar experience with my old friend Bill Evers, are things everyone here is entitled to hear.

    I’ll reply to your point about the Holocaust in another post, since this comment is already long enough: in a nutshell, I am willing to take my guidance from Norm Finkelstein on that issue.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  291. Jewish humor.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  292. @Ron Unz

    Ron, I’ve only read the first few pages of your ‘Holocaust Denial History’ link, and there’s a ton of B.S that I’ve already observed. For instance, on page 4 it states:

    ‘American Holocaust denial grew from political circumstances unique to the United States, specifically the American right’s rejection of both Roosevelt’s New Deal and America’s entry into WWII’.

    I doubt that very much.

    Those that have done the extensive research like I have, utilising reputable sources, know the Holohoax is a fraud. Irrespective of what country they’re from, they’ve come to this conclusion because:

    THE PREPONDERANCE OF OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE UNAMBIGUOUSLY DEMONSTRATES THAT THERE WAS NO SYSTEMATIC MASS EXTERMINATION OF JEWS NOR GAS CHAMBERS THAT KILLED HUMANS at any of the German work* camps.

    (*What are clearly work camps, like Auschwitz-Birkenau, were falsely labelled as ‘extermination camps’ by the usual culprits).

    On the same page, your link also asserts:

    ‘Nazi atrocities, revisionists claimed, were equalled by Allied atrocities.
    From this false equivalency, it was but a short step to the denial of the Nazi genocide’.

    Well, I have some common ground with the author here. This certainly was a false equivalency.
    After all, no matter how you slice and dice it, the crimes of the Allies (the Anglo Zionist empire in particular – not just during the war but also in the immediate post war years), were ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE WORSE THAN ANYTHING THE GERMANS PERPETRATED in WWII, both in quantitative and qualitative terms.

    As for the denial of the ‘Nazi genocide’, since there never was one to begin with, there is nothing to deny. It’s an old trick of the Anglo Zionist empire to accuse the enemy of a crime that they themselves were committing.

    Anyway, I’ll get around to reading the rest of this pdf later on. But if the first half of this pdf is any indication , it’s clear that this author (John P. Jackson Jr), is an apologist for ZOG malfeasance and likely in their employ. It doesn’t help the author’s cause that he posts numerous scurrilously false accusations about Libertarianism and implies that, by its very nature, it would tend to deny the Holohoax and be sympathetic to fascists.

    Lastly, in accordance with my assertion that I’ve posted on numerous occasions in various UR threads in the past, that the U.S wa,s in the 130 or so years leading up to the creation of the ZOG owned Federal Reserve, the closest that any major society/nation has come to being a Libertarian utopia (hence the reason it became the most prosperous nation on Earth), the revisionist Harry Elmer Barnes reaffirms this belief when he states (taken from page 12 of the pdf):

    ‘… that before the twentieth century, “OURS WAS A LIBERTARIAN COUNTRY”.
    But that Libertarian paradise has been shattered by America’s foolish entry into Europe’s two wars.
    America lost “freedom, absence of high taxation, minimum indebtedness, low armament expenditures and pacific outlook of pre-1914 times”, in the wars he claimed, …. [absent] America’s interventionism, [American’s] would be living in Utopian security and abundance’.

    Ron, I don’t know why you’d want to post this link that appears (with the exception of the remarks made by Harry Elmer Barnes that I posted above), to be full of disinfo.

  293. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I think this is due to a very significant and dramatic change in Steve over the last two years.

    You might be correct. Once I became heavily involved in my own work and research 7 or 8 years ago, I stopped regularly visiting Steve’s blog, so can’t judge its evolution. From what you’re saying, the big shift might have come at the beginning of the Russia-Ukraine war, and I remember being very surprised that Steve was so closely following the MSM line to the issue and also the Nord Stream pipeline attacks, despite such outstanding experts such as Mearsheimer, Sachs, Macgregor, and McGovern on the dissenting side. Maybe he’s probably just gotten worn down over the years and no longer wants to challenge the Establishment. Or maybe as you suggest some donors have put him on a leash.

    when I was a grad student at Stanford back around 1980, I was friends with Williamson Evers, one of Murray Rothbard’s closest associates. Bill was a fiery radical libertarian: I myself worked on Bill’s Congressional campaign when he ran as a Libertarian.

    I was actually a little friendly with Evers during the 1990s, when I was involved in various political and initiative campaigns, and was also surprised when he took a position in the Bush Administration and later in Iraq. But since I’d known him much less well, I wasn’t as surprised as you seem to have been.

  294. @Colin Wright

    ‘…the US and its client state…’

    This reverses the relationship. If Israel were our client state, she would have to do as we instructed while we did as we pleased.

    In fact, the opposite is the case. We are manifestly unable to restrain Israel, but on the contrary, have to send arms, vote in the UN, and attack other states as she instructs.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  295. @Ron Unz

    ‘…Maybe he’s probably just gotten worn down over the years and no longer wants to challenge the Establishment…’

    These days,, though, it’s all a bit of a judgement call. Do you want to gain actual power, or do you merely want to be heard, or would you rather just say exactly what you think? The last example I can think of somebody trying to do all three was Barry Goldwater — and he lost. The climate for free speech hasn’t improved over the last fifty years either.

    So, since we all have to live in the world as it is, we make our choice — and this means we have to decide whether to have our cake, or eat it. I’ll take criticism of Israel as an example, since that’s my particular hobby-horse.

    If you actually want to run for political office anywhere outside of a few enclaves, you have to support Israel. Politicians who have failed to do that have vanished. Pete McCloskey. Tulsi Gabbard.

    So they all love Israel now. All one can do is try and gauge how sincere and enthusiastic they are. Ron DeSantis loves Israel — but Niki Haley loves it even more. Sanders? Maybe not so much. But they all ‘support Israel.’ It’s like being for Social Security. Any other stance is death.

    Now, let’s suppose you don’t want to actually run for office — but you do want a mainstream voice. Well, Elon Musk is pretty much defining the freedom of maneuver that permits. He has to visit Israel, say October 7th was awful. Tucker Carlson is another. He never attacks Israel — but he does manage to avoid praising it.

    If you want to be even within shouting distance of the mainstream, that’s about all you’re permitted.

    Want to go further? Well, see Walt and Mearsheimer, The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy. They spend half of that book explaining that they love Israel the bestest, that they’re not anti-semites, that Israel has a right to defend itself, etc — but nevertheless, a determined effort was made to drive them into outer darkness.

    Want to go further? Want to call a spade a spade? It’s the Unz Review for you, my lad. In fact, it would be best if you’re retired entirely, so that no one can get you fired.

    So Steve Sailer — rightly or wrongly — wants to continue to at least be someone people on the farther right can at least quote. Then he’d better keep his comments sanitary.

    It’s not like we have freedom of speech. What we have is the freedom to not be heard. Steve doesn’t want to find himself exercising that particular right.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  296. @PhysicistDave

    Your reply to Jack D is excellent!
    Since this is an open thread, I will assume free association of ideas is permitted, and will post this interview given by another Sailer on a different subject:
    “Whither the Looniversity?” – S2 E8 – John Sailer of the National Association of Scholars

    I find it quite funny that Ron Unz is keen on making a Holocaust Denier out of you. By the way, and since I’m on a free association spree, I might add that the name of the interviewer in the video I linked to (Ellwanger) reminded me of the most notorious Holocaust Denier in Brazil — Siegfried Ellwanger, who published as S.E. Castan, and founded a publishing house devoted to this kind of book. I haven’t read any of his books (one or more of which have been translated to English), so I can’t say anything about them. But I know that he was constantly harassed by the law and finally convicted, though I don’t think he served time in prison. He was a very persistent fellow — I think he had been a successful industrialist, therefore was independently wealthy — and sold his books personally at times. At one occasion he was selling them at a book fair and a Jewish guy saw it and denounced him. His books had already been banned, but he kept on printing and selling them. I think that led to his conviction.
    I think the most famous title by Castan was “Holocaust — Jewish or German?”. I remember another title because it tries to be funny: “Acabou o Gás” (“We’re Out of Gas”).

  297. Our allies.

  298. @Ron Unz

    Ron Unz wrote to me:

    I was actually a little friendly with Evers during the 1990s, when I was involved in various political and initiative campaigns…

    As you probably know, Bill did yeoman’s work back in the 1990s in organizing university professors around California to block disastrous math standards that were being proposed at the time: Bill’s Ph.D. is in poli-sci, so he knows how to organize!

    Bill’s efforts along those lines continue: unfortunately, he was unable to block the most recent, disastrous California state math standards (see here for an article he wrote last summer on this).

    So, I’m not trying to paint Bill as unequivocally being a bad guy.

    What was rather shocking was the turn-around in roughly ten years from Bill’s intense and rather unreasonable antipathy towards Republicans to his actually working closely within a pretty despicable Republican administration.

    I just wish I could get the Bill Evers of 1990 to have a debate with the Bill Evers of the twenty-first century!

    Anyway, I was just using the example of a guy you and I both knew to illustrate how people can change their spots pretty dramatically, often as they get old.

    Ron also wrote:

    From what you’re saying, the big shift might have come at the beginning of the Russia-Ukraine war, and I remember being very surprised that Steve was so closely following the MSM line to the issue and also the Nord Stream pipeline attacks, despite such outstanding experts such as Mearsheimer, Sachs, Macgregor, and McGovern on the dissenting side.

    Yeah. As you know, I am reluctant to accept “fringy” theories unless there is solid evidence for them: a big part of being a competent scientist is simply to be willing to say “I don’t know.” So, for example, I really don’t know who the ultimate actors behind 9/11 were: the Saudis are such nasty actors that I have suspicions (as do the 9/11 families), but no proof.

    On the other hand, John Mearsheimer is hardly a “fringy” guy! And, as you know, he has denounced what is going on in Gaza as genocide. Indeed, most Americans want a cease-fire and an end to the killing.

    So, the fact that Steve Sailer views what is now the majority view in the country as a view that is so controversial that he needs to censor it really is surpassingly strange.

    It’s Steve’s sandbox, and he can do as he wishes, but it really does cry out for explanation.

    Is it pressure from his key contributors? Pressure from outside authorities? Or just a guy getting old and becoming unreasonably afraid of shadows?

    As I said, I suspect the last of these. I doubt that Steve will tell us.

    But when the Israelis are openly trying to starve two million civilians to death, when most Americans want peace, when mainstream guys like Mearhseimer are willing to call it genocide… well, the fact that Steve seems to deem such views as overly controversial really is very, very strange.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  299. @PhysicistDave

    I am going to try to post this on Sailer’s blog.

    I take you tried, it went into limbo, and it’s still in limbo?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  300. @PhysicistDave

    Well, whatever Steve’s policy is, it doesn’t seem to be a matter of barring criticism of Israel. I posted this a while back, and it went through:

    @Jack D
    ‘No one is saying that the Israelis should rape and kill the Gazans…’

    Hey Jack.

    Accounts of Israel executing civilians.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-survivors-recount-harrowing-israeli-field-executions

    There may not be a policy. Maybe Steve just says, well, I’ll think about this one for a while’ — and then he never gets back to it. I know that whenever I go completely off the reservation — type ‘nigger,’ for example — my post doesn’t go into limbo but vanishes completely. So logically, if he did have some clear rule you were breaking, your post would simply and promptly vanish.

  301. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] I am going to try to post this on Sailer’s blog.

    [Colin] I take you tried, it went into limbo, and it’s still in limbo?

    No, I just got around to trying to post it: I’m actually supposed to be working on my book on General Relativity (I’m currently stuck on how to derive gravitational radiation using only elementary methods — to be sure, no one else knows how to do that either!).

    Perhaps my “sin” with regard to Steve is that I am following John Mearsheimer in using the word “genocide”. Also, the main reason that Jack D seems to hate me is that I have literally quoted chapter and verse from the Old Testament proving that ancient Judaism was genocidal — that is an obvious central theme of the Old Testament, of course, but our friend Jack got very annoyed when I pointed this out! Perhaps Jack has given, shall we say, instructions to Steve?

    Anyway, what I just tried to post in Steve’s comment section is as follows. We’ll see what happens. I think of this as an experiment to calibrate our friend Steve.

    ———–
    I urge everyone to watch this clip from The Grayzone on what the IDF actually intends to do to Gaza (go to time 7:47 for the key passage):

    The key quote from this IDF monster:

    “You ask me what I would do and the answer is simply leveling the ground. And to kill the largest number possible. Because the woman there is an enemy, the baby there is an enemy. And the first grader there is an enemy.”

    This is genocide.

    This is what our Zionist apologists – Jack D, Gandydancer, Pixo, et al. – are defending.

    And, if anyone thinks that this is just one out-of-control IDF loon, I remind everyone that Netanyahu recently invoked “Amalek,” which is a reference to 1 Samuel 15: 

    2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

    3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

    4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

    7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.

    8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.

    This is what Netanyahu and his cronies want to do to the Palestinians in Gaza, this is what they are in fact doing, this is what the IDF thug is calling for.

    And this is what our Zionist apologists here are defending.

    There is a reason that the heroic academic John Mearsheimer has denounced this as genocide (see here and also here on this very same unz.com website).

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Brás Cubas
    , @Pixo
  302. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Perhaps my “sin” with regard to Steve is that I am following John Mearsheimer in using the word “genocide.”

    Yes, the whole situation really is pretty shocking, and the near total silence of the West’s “human rights” establishment even more so. As I’ve repeatedly emphasized, this is certainly the greatest televised massacre of helpless civilians in the history of the world.

    I’m not totally surprised that John Mearsheimer is taking such a forceful stand. Not too long ago, I came across a clip of him speaking at a conference seven or eight years ago. He declared that if he were invited to Israel to give a talk on his Israel Lobby book and someone who didn’t like it shot him dead, there would be absolutely no political consequences since Israel possessed total impunity, a point he’s recently repeated regarding the Gaza Massacre. So I can understand why he sympathizes with the unfortunate Palestinians.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  303. @Colin Wright

    This reverses the relationship. If Israel were our client state, she would have to do as we instructed while we did as we pleased.

    The U.S is NOT a client state of Israel – nor is the reverse true.

    Understand this: The Apartheid Israeli state is a Rothschild construct. It was a created for the purposes of being a last resort refuge, in the event that Malevolent International Jews were ever expelled from any particular country, and also to harbour individual small hat miscreants that sought asylum, knowing that they could not be extradited.

    ZOG went to great expense, time and effort to create the Apartheid Israeli state, so they were not about to let it perish on the vine if they believed it was threatened existentially.
    ZOG viewed JFK’s presidency and the threats posed by neighbouring Arab nations during the 1990’s as existential issues, hence the reason for the JFK assassination and the 9/11 False Flag which it orchestrated.

    FACT: Both the U.S and the Apartheid Israeli state read from a ZOG dictated script.
    The Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG), operating out of the City of London, are calling ALL the shots.

    Not that this should be a surprise to anyone. With multiples of U.S GDP in financial wherewithal, and the capacity to print/digitally conjure scores of trillions more with a key stroke on their computers (through the western central banks they own/control), they lord over the entirety of the western financial and political systems.

  304. @Colin Wright

    If you actually want to run for political office anywhere outside of a few enclaves, you have to support Israel.

    No you don’t. Dr Ron Paul never compromised his principles and never supported the Izzies.
    Not only did he not support them, he publicly stated that the billions of largesse the Apartheid Israeli state got each year from U.S taxpayers, should be reduced to ZERO.

    Sure, there was a price to pay. ZOG would go on to fund Ron Paul’s opponent in his Congressional district with a ton of money, coupled to a smear campaign that Dr Paul was racist, and all manner of other scurrilous lies directed against him. And Ron Paul would lose the following election.
    But Dr Paul would challenge again and would win next time around.

    So ZOG doubled down and provided obscene levels of funding for Ron Paul’s next opponent (coupled with saturation levels of smearing and unfounded allegations) and, sure enough, Ron Paul would lose in his Congressional district.
    But Ron Paul would return again, and this time the voters knew there was no substance to the fabrications being levelled his way.
    Eventually ZOG got tired of throwing money down a rat hole, knowing that no matter how much they raised to fund the opposing candidate, it would count for nothing – as the citizenry loved Ron Paul and knew he was the real deal.

    SUMMARY: Unlike Tulsi, Bernie Sanders and countless others that compromised themselves and allowed ZOG to sodomise them, Ron Paul NEVER flip-flopped or back tracked on his messages. Not ONE EFF’N time !!
    Yes, you might lose a Congressional election or two on the way, or be cheated out of the GOP nomination in the 2012 primaries, but you come out with your reputation intact.

    Ron Paul is the template for all others to follow. And, in the event that most candidates for political office did what he did, and instead ZOG put obsequious sock puppets in their place (ie: the likes of the Lindsey Grahams, John McCains etc), then the voting citizenry should just boycott the elections en masse.
    This would send a clear message that the U.S voting/selection system was sham.
    Thereafter the next step is Non Violent Civil Disobedience.
    In other words, since the citizenry did not elect those sock puppets of ZOG that were in office and knew they got there through chicanery, they’d be sending a message that we don’t recognise your jurisdiction over us.
    In the case of the Covid Psyop for example, the citizenry would just say:

    ‘No face masks for me, No Socialist distancing or compulsory vaccination, no shutting down of our small businesses which would entail bankruptcy while the ZOG affiliated Big Box stores traded as usual etc’.
    And, faced with that, the Covid Psyop would have withered on the vine within a few weeks.
    That’s how it’s done.

  305. @PhysicistDave

    Physicist Dovid (aka Phy-Do) writes:

    As you know, I am reluctant to accept “fringy” theories unless there is solid evidence for them

    In fact, what we DO KNOW is that you’ve swallowed the fringy and preposterous USG/ZOG conspiracy explanation for how the WTC buildings came down on the day of 9/11, while turning your back on the DELUGE OF SOLID EVIDENCE that emphatically demonstrates that the buildings came down in a controlled demolition.

    So once again Phy-Do (aka Fi-do), seeing as you’re a grovelling dog in the employ of ZOG, you’re exposed as a hypocrite.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  306. @PhysicistDave

    …Current polls indicate that a majority of the US population wants a cease-fire and an end to the genocide in Gaza: my view on this is hardly controversial. Indeed, it is one of the least controversial views I or anyone has voiced in Steve’s comment section…

    I’d say you misunderstand something; it is not the unpopular views that need to be censored, but the popular ones.

    The support for a ceasefire is not unique; almost half of Americans had doubts about the 2020 election. No doubt a lot were unenthusiastic about the measures taken in response to Covid; I saw communities where no one was wearing a mask.

    These are where censorship comes into force, not when the views are those of a small minority. Go ahead; claim the Twin Towers were brought down in a controlled demolition; no one will care. But call for a ceasefire, claim Trump won, refuse to get vaccinated?

    Measures will be taken to ensure as few as possible hear you.

    You can have all the rabid, nut job views you please; that’s quite alright. It’s when you start saying things that a lot might agree with that measures will be taken.

  307. @PhysicistDave

    Please, let’s not get carrried away. There is nothing “heroic” about Mearsheimer’s stance. The whole MSM, except perhaps apparent CIA mouthpieces like CNN, is against what Israel is doing. Even the ultra-establishmentarian Economist has published a piece attacking Israel. Of course Mearsheimer is blunter than The Economist, but “heroic” is a little too much for taking a stand which differs only in degree from everyone else. Take even the U.S. government’s stance: it is hypocritical, meaning their discourse is against Israel and their actions belie that discourse; but the fact that they must “pay tribute to virtue” is a tacit admission of where virtue is.
    Furthermore, Mearsheimer is in clear contradiction with his preposterous “offensive realism” doctrine, a fact which has been brought up in an interview and merited an extremely weaselly response from him. Maybe Mearsheimer down deep fears he has been feeding monsters with his writings, and feels somewhat guilty about it.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  308. @Ron Unz

    There’s no “near total silence” except in your imagination. The Red Cross has spoken out, several other organizations have spoken out, even UN head Guterres has spoken out. When you open the Human Rights Watch page, the first thing you see is this:
    Israel: Gaza Workers Held Incommunicado for Weeks
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/01/03/israel-gaza-workers-held-incommunicado-weeks

  309. Mark G. says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I agree with Colin in his response to you that those in power are fine with the nut jobs expressing their views but worry about anyone that might persuade the average person. You saw this during Covid when people who said the disease did not exist or that the vaccine was part of a depopulation scheme were mostly left alone. It came out later that Fauci and associates were mainly focused on taking down people like the prominent scientists at places like Oxford or Stanford who came up with the Great Barrington Declaration.

    The Jenner types over at Steve’s blog who talk about how the Jews control everything or quote Goebbels with approval are not a threat. Hitler and his associates are not popular in this country and never will be. Hitler came to power due to a unique combination of circumstances that will never be repeated. The average American will not be swayed by such creepy characters. They are ineffective so it is not a problem if Steve approves their comments.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  310. ‘A suspected Israeli drone strike on southern Lebanon killed a senior commander in Hezbollah’s elite Radwan force…’

    Obviously, it’s not for me to decide, but I think now is about the time for Hezbollah to strike back — hard.

  311. @PhysicistDave

    I just want to thank you, PhysD and Ron Unz. I have just scanned this exchange between you two, and it reassures me that I have not been crazy to change my sense of S. Sailer.

    My own change began during the Covid business, and I admit that I was characteristically moody and haphazard. (Even drunk sometimes!) Anyway, for me, my view of Sailer began to change then.

    Ukraine and Gaza have only made it worse, for the reasons you describe.

    It must be said, however, that Steve pretty quickly approves my comments, even though I too have expressed criticism of Israel, the Ukraine business, and the Covid business. I have thrown some poo at Jack’eD too.

    Steve probably lets me through because I am not as much of a threat, not as effective and thorough, as you.

    “On the other hand…”

    I have donated to Steve over the recent years, to the tune of several hundred dollars at a time, most often, but I stopped a year ago. I don’t know if money has any effect on his approvals, and I don’t think mine, however generous at the time, had any major effect on him.

    I have a lot in common with Steve, and I have shared a lot with him privately in letters and emails, so maybe common ground helps. I have ceased this too. I simply feel as odd and questioning about iSteve as you do, and I really appreciate reading Ron Unz’s perspective.

    At the very least, I am disappointed now in Sailer, while I greatly admire Unz and his work.

    This may sound pathetic, but from my modest position, I hold Ron Unz to be a greater figure than Steve Sailer, and I find you, Dave, to be a similarly intelligent commenter.

    Thank you both. Thank you, Ron Unz, especially. I have just read your two top stories today, and I continue to learn a lot. F. Roger Devlin’s article is particularly educational!

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  312. @Colin Wright

    Go ahead; claim the Twin Towers were brought down in a controlled demolition; no one will care. But call for a ceasefire, claim Trump won, refuse to get vaccinated?

    Not exactly.

    I take every opportunity to expose the crimes of the Apartheid Israeli state and its ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, have expressed my opinion that the 2020 election was stolen from Donald J Chump (not that it matters, seeing as Chump is every bit as much a ZOG sock puppet as Biden), and have a massive word count in UR threads on the matter of the Covid Psyop.
    I’ve stated publicly that I (and most of my loved ones), did not take the experimental mRNA gene therapy that masquerades as a vaccine, nor did I wear the face mask for the entirety of this fake epidemic (despite heavy penalties in my locale for not doing so).
    Similarly, I have an even greater word count in the UR comments section of 9/11 related threads, where I say things that Physicist Dovid is too gutless to say.

    The fact of the matter is that you or I can speak all we like about these things, as millions of others do in other forums, and there will be no consequences.
    That’s because we don’t have a large audience, we don’t have a platform that is likely to convey the message to a significant cross section of the lumpen proletariat.

    As damaging as Julian Assange’s releases of the Collateral Murder video was to the ZOG establishment, together with releases of other tidbits, if he’d come out and said the truth about the 9/11 False Flag (ie: that is was perpetrated by the Mossad in conjunction with traitors in the USG/military/Intel agencies), then he would have been instantly killed.
    Same goes for the likes of Dr Ron Paul and Glenn Greenwald etc. Although in the case of Ron Paul, he’s treading a fine line and frequently mentions in his ‘Ron Paul Liberty Report’ that the official explanation for the collapse of Building 7 is very strange indeed.

    We KNOW for a fact what happens to high profile individuals that threaten to expose the truth about 9/11. In late 2002, Senator Paul Wellstone had mentioned that he’d be establishing a Congressional investigation into 9/11.
    That was a bridge too far for ZOG. They then killed him, his wife, his daughter and a few of his staff members for good measure.

    SUMMARY: Make no mistake, 9/11 is the big one. ZOG will not tolerate anyone with a high profile exposing that. Because, as Christopher Bollyn says:
    ‘Solving 9/11 Ends the wars’.

    Well, the ONLY way you’re going to end the wars is by bringing down ZOG. And the truth about 9/11 exposes ZOG’s orchestration of that event.
    The Covid Psyop comes in second place. This mass cull of humanity (around 675,000 murdered so far in the U.S alone from the Covid vaxxes, according to Steve Kirsch and backed up by the likes of Dr Peter McCullough), was also perpetrated by ZOG.
    Exposure of ZOG’s complicity in that crime also results in the prosecution and demise of ZOG.

  313. @Buzz Mohawk

    Mohawk Man writes:

    This may sound pathetic, but from my modest position, I hold Ron Unz to be a greater figure than Steve Sailer, and I find you, Dave, to be a similarly intelligent commenter.

    Well duhhh, obviously Ron Unz has more intelligence/integrity than Steve Sailer.

    After all, the latter is a subservient apologist for ZOG. Sailer is a worthless piece of sh*t, and anyone that reads/comments in his threads is indirectly condoning his behaviour. (ie: censorship/prolonged moderation/outright purging of comments – as he did to me when I emphatically eviscerated the Holohoax).

    As for your remarks about Physicist Dovid (aka Phy Do), he may or may not be intelligent. But what good are his smarts when we’ve seen first hand that HE COVERS FOR HIS ZOG BENEFACTORS ON THE MATTER OF THE 9/11 FALSE FLAG.

    Are you aware that he still believes in the USG/NIST explanation (ie: a fire induced gravity collapse) for the destruction of the WTC buildings on the day of 9/11 ?
    I mean, even Blind Freddie can see that the official ZOG scripted explanation for the collapse of those buildings contravenes:

    1) Newton’s 3rd Law of Motion
    2) The Law of Conservation of Momentum
    3) The Law of Conservation of Energy.

    Yet Physicist Dovid* continues to stand shoulder to shoulder with his corrupt establishment pals on this matter.
    (*Dovid is the original Hebrew spelling for the name David, and no doubt how he’s addressed at the synagogue he attends. Yes UR readers, Dave Miller is indeed Jewish.
    Of course, that needn’t be a problem in and of itself if Dovid was a righteous Jew, and sought the truth on 9/11, the Covid Psyop and other ZOG orchestrated malfeasance.
    But he doesn’t. Dovid is a malevolent Jew and seeks to Deceive, Deflect and Disseminate Disinfo).

    Meanwhile, to atone for his bald faced lies on 9/11, I see that Physicist Dovid is showing some remorse for his past gutlessness on 9/11, and speaking out about the heavy handed response of the Izzies in the Gaza conflicr.
    Well Dovid, it’s too little too late. We can see through your charade.

    So Mohawk Man, wake up to who Dave Miller really is. He’s not what he pretends to be.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
    , @PhysicistDave
  314. Pixo says:
    @PhysicistDave

    “ This is genocide.

    This is what our Zionist apologists – Jack D, Gandydancer, Pixo, et al. – are defending.”

    The genocide I see in the world is by Muslims against all peoples who oppose their aggression, from Nigeria to Thailand to Philippines to Europe to Armenia to Israel.

    I think it is wonderful that Israel is standing up to Islam. I hope it serves as a model for the rest of the world. And that’s why Muslims worldwide hate them so much, as well as all the other groups that hate Western Civ like trannies, blacks, antifa wierdos, Putinists, and communists.

  315. @Pixo

    I think it is wonderful that Israel is standing up to Islam.

    That Jewish trick of reversing the actual disparity of the relative strengths of the two entities, won’t wash with well informed UR readers. By framing it as ‘the Izzies are standing up to Islam’, you’re implying that the Arabs are the big bullies that are picking on the little Jewish kid in the school yard. Of course, the reverse is true.
    Trying to portray this as a case of ‘Poor little Israel’ up against the collective ‘might’ of the Arab nations, because the latter greatly outnumber the former, is a typical Talmudic diversion.

    The Apartheid Israeli state have the backing of the Anglo Zionist empire (the major subset of which is the incalculable resources of the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel – aka ZOG), and thus the Izzies have a vast array of technological wherewithal and firepower that far exceeds what the Arab nations can muster up.
    The ACTUAL REALITY is one of the impoverished and downtrodden Arab world that is standing up to a genocidal onslaught from the Zionist aggressors that stole their ancestral land (and indeed this has been the case for over 75 years, since the Nakba took place).

    Pixo, you’re off with the Pixies to be claiming that which is the inverse of what is really occurring.

  316. @Buzz Mohawk

    My own change began during the Covid business, and I admit that I was characteristically moody and haphazard. (Even drunk sometimes!) Anyway, for me, my view of Sailer began to change then.

    Except regarding the origin of the pandemic, I fail to see any difference between Steve Sailer’s and Ron Unz’s respective assessments of the various aspects of the establishment’s reaction to it, so I fail to see why this would be a reason for regarding Steve Sailer differently from Ron Unz.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  317. @Brás Cubas

    I was skeptical; but we can now take it as established that Ray Epps was a government asset of some kind.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  318. @Pixo

    You make me ill. You’re literally applauding crimes on the scale of those committed by the Nazis at their worst.

    • Replies: @Pixo
  319. Odyssey says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Consider that he was a Ron’s schoolmate and that Ron has a soft spot for him, as well as for your countryman WoOz (I hope he’s ok and didn’t join yours compatriot Holt on a dive this summer).

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  320. @Truth Vigilante

    My little buddy Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    [Dave] As you know, I am reluctant to accept “fringy” theories unless there is solid evidence for them

    [TV] In fact, what we DO KNOW is that you’ve swallowed the fringy and preposterous USG/ZOG conspiracy explanation for how the WTC buildings came down on the day of 9/11, while turning your back on the DELUGE OF SOLID EVIDENCE that emphatically demonstrates that the buildings came down in a controlled demolition.

    The views of you “9/11 Truthers” are indeed “fringy” in the literal sense that they are not the general consensus — they are in fact on the “fringes.” You cannot even agree among yourselves — the planes-were-holograms guys cannot convince most of the nuclear demolition guys and on and on and on.

    You are not even one single unified fringe!

    I spent considerable time and energy trying to explain to you and others on that thread some of the basic physics relevant to the collapse of the Twin Towers.

    Not a one of you was a physicist or a structural engineer. It became very, very clear that not a one of you had even a basic understanding of undergrad physics.

    And, most critically, not a one of you exerted any effort to try to understand what I was trying to explain.

    Instead, from the get-go, I was subjected to a barrage of vituperation and ad hominem attacks, as well as actual physical threats from you yourself.

    Now, I love a good flame war as much as the next guy. but at some point it just becomes a waste of time.

    As I keep pointing out, the key feature of “Web psychosis” is the belief that the opinions of random anonymous non-experts on the Web carry just as much weight as the opinion of people who are willing to identify themselves and show that they have proven expertise.

    I have such expertise in physics. None of you do. What happened to the Twin Towers was, as all of us agree, one way or another, physics — whether it was the result of the plane crashes or a controlled demolition or, as some of you suggested, a nuclear (!) explosion. All physics.

    And I have a Ph.D. in physics.

    You don’t.

    And my best area was mechanics — from classical mechanics to special relativity to General Relativity to quantum mechanics to quantum field theory.

    With all due respect, I am simply not willing to debate interminably with people who suffer from “Web psychosis” and who think that their ignorance is just as valid as my proven knowledge on a subject on which I am expert.

    To be blunt, I cannot cure you of your “Web psychosis.”

    But I do not have to pretend that it is anything except what it is.

    Take care, little buddy. Enjoy the summer Down Under.

    Your friendly neighborhood Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento (Ph.D., Stanford, physics)

  321. @Odyssey

    Wizard of ZOG (aka WoZ) may well have been on friendly terms with Ron Unz at some point in the distant past (I understand that WoZ actually travelled to the U.S to visit him on one occasion).

    But it is clear from Ron’s numerous comments in recent years (Ron constantly ridicules WoZ’s hare-brained theories on a range of topics – eg: the JFK assassination), that he has no respect for WoZ whatsoever.

    WoZ is an apologist for ZOG on EVERY issue. There are few individuals in the UR commentariat that are more lacking in integrity than WoZ. If he went the way of Harold Holt, no one would miss him.

    • Thanks: Odyssey
  322. Pixo says:
    @Colin Wright

    99% of the 40+ million killed by nazi germany aggression were white Christians or Jews. WWII was a brother war between various high IQ populations.

    Israel-Gaza is a war of judeo-christian civilization v brown arab barbarism, of higher versus lower forms of human life.

    So no real comparison between them.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  323. @Truth Vigilante

    My sweet little pal Truth Vigilante wrote to Buzz Mohawk:

    As for your remarks about Physicist Dovid (aka Phy Do), he may or may not be intelligent. But what good are his smarts when we’ve seen first hand that HE COVERS FOR HIS ZOG BENEFACTORS ON THE MATTER OF THE 9/11 FALSE FLAG.

    My ZOG benefactors? Hey, how come I’m not receiving my monthly checks from them???

    Can you tell me who is supposed to be paying me so I can get the payments sent to my proper address?

    My beloved buddy also wrote:

    Are you aware that [Dave] still believes in the USG/NIST explanation (ie: a fire induced gravity collapse) for the destruction of the WTC buildings on the day of 9/11 ?
    I mean, even Blind Freddie can see that the official ZOG scripted explanation for the collapse of those buildings contravenes:

    1) Newton’s 3rd Law of Motion
    2) The Law of Conservation of Momentum
    3) The Law of Conservation of Energy.

    I earned an A+ in Advanced Classical Mechanics.

    At Caltech.

    And then I got my Ph.D. at Stanford.

    Where did you say you earned your degrees in physics?

    Your “Web psychosis” is shining through, your belief that the opinions of a random, anonymous, utterly ignorant person like you are worth just as much as the knowledge of someone who is a proven expert in a field, as I am.

    I have a deep understanding of conservation of energy and momentum, from classical mechanics to special relativity and General Relativity and to their underlying basis in quantum mechanics and quantum field theory.

    You don’t.

    There is nothing in the conventional explanation of the collapse of the Twin Towers that violates those basic principles of physics. On the contrary, it is those basic principles of physics that enable one to derive, as I have done, the differential equation describing the collapse.

    I offered to explain that to you.

    You were uninterested.

    Not my fault.

    Our sweet little fellow also wrote:

    Yes UR readers, Dave Miller is indeed Jewish.

    How would you possibly know that? Have you traced my genealogy? Did you swipe a DNA sample and run a genetic analysis?

    If I were in fact Jewish, I would not be ashamed of that fact: I am not responsible for my ancestry but only for myself.

    But, alas, I am not Jewish: I am primarily of Irish, German, and English descent.

    Most people of European descent, including you yourself, if they could trace their ancestry back a couple millennia, would probably find that there is some Jewish guy in their family tree.

    But I have none that I know of.

    Why are you so obsessed with this? Who do you think cares?

    The wee little guy also wrote:

    Meanwhile, to atone for his bald faced lies on 9/11, I see that Physicist Dovid is showing some remorse for his past gutlessness on 9/11, and speaking out about the heavy handed response of the Izzies in the Gaza conflicr.
    Well Dovid, it’s too little too late. We can see through your charade.

    I have been criticizing Israel publicly for well over forty years, probably before you were born.

    Oddly enough, I just found out that I can actually prove this! Go here and read the column by me on the right side of page 4 that I wrote for the campus paper at Stanford in January 1979.

    The tl; dr version:

    In particular, both justice and realism demand that the state of Israel as presently constituted — i.e., as the Jewish homeland and as a Jewish state — must cease to exist.

    Specifically:

    1) Israel must return all stolen property and land to its rightful Arab owners, and all refugees who have fled Palestine must be allowed to freely return.

    2) Civil liberties must be extended to all inhabitants of Israel whatever their race, creed, ethnic group or national origin. The arbitrary and capricious military government of occupied areas must be replaced by the objective and impartial rule of law.

    3) Laws and state institutions favoring Jews or Judaism— the establishment of the Orthodox Rabbinate, the favoring of Jews in immigration, laws enforcing the Jewish Sabbath, etc. — must be abolished.

    4) Finally, those symbols which identify the current regime as Jewish — the name Israel, the establishment of Hebrew as the official language, the star of David in the Israeli flag, etc. — should be replaced.

    Until such reforms are inaugurated by the Israeli government, the government and people of the United States should abstain from all support of the state of Israel. Neither a foolish belief in the myths of the Old Testament nor an honest respect for the courage and industry of the Israeli people should be allowed to distort our judgments of the policies of the Israeli government.

    I stand by that column today, almost forty-five years to the day later.

    By the way, a couple of the professors I worked with were fanatical Zionists who were enraged by that opinion column (personally, I thought it showed my usual tone of reasonableness and moderation). That was the major reason I ended up having to leave academic physics.

    So, I paid dearly for expressing that opinion forty-five years ago.

    But I am still not sorry I did it: I am not willing to spend my life afraid of my own shadow.

    On the other hand, the Israeli physics grad student with whom I was friends at Stanford viewed the column as a basis for an interesting discussion.

    Some human beings, like my old Israeli friend, have integrity. Some, like you and my former professors, do not.

    You take care little buddy.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento (Ph.D., Stanford, physics)

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas, Buzz Mohawk
  324. Ron Unz says:

    By the way, a couple of the professors I worked with were fanatical Zionists who were enraged by that opinion column (personally, I thought it showed my usual tone of reasonableness and moderation). That was the major reason I ended up having to leave academic physics.

    So, I paid dearly for expressing that opinion forty-five years ago.

    That’s very interesting and certainly a very strong-minded column. We didn’t quite overlap at Stanford but which professors gave you such a hard time? I don’t recall discussing politics much with my professors, but I never thought of Lenny Susskind in that category. Michael Peskin? Bernard Gittelman? Maybe some other names I’ve forgotten?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  325. @Brás Cubas

    Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    Please, let’s not get carrried away. There is nothing “heroic” about Mearsheimer’s stance. The whole MSM, except perhaps apparent CIA mouthpieces like CNN, is against what Israel is doing.

    How many are willing to acknowledge that South Africa is correct in labeling it genocide?

    And who stood up for Liz Magill, the now ex-president of Penn, even though all she did was assert that UPenn students might not be expelled for speaking up freely?

    What would happen to any college president who actually said publicly that Israel engaged in massive crimes prior to October 7 far worse than what Hamas did on October 7 and that Israel’s actions since October 7 are clearly genocidal?

    I actually have personal experience with this: as I explained above, I was kicked out of academic physics because of the (rather anodyne) column I wrote for the student paper at Stanford in 1979 calling for a one-state solution (again, see here to read that column, on the left side of page 4).

    So, unfortunately, as my experience more than forty years ago and Liz Magill’s experience a few weeks ago prove, anyone who speaks the truth about Israel is taking a real risk.

    BC also wrote:

    Furthermore, Mearsheimer is in clear contradiction with his preposterous “offensive realism” doctrine, a fact which has been brought up in an interview and merited an extremely weaselly response from him. Maybe Mearsheimer down deep fears he has been feeding monsters with his writings, and feels somewhat guilty about it.

    If you follow him carefully, he has made clear that he views an intelligent adherence to realism as a way of avoiding war — e.g., realism dictates that the US should not have expanded NATO up to Russia’s borders, even though doing so is technically allowed under international law.

    See here for a recent interview of Mearsheimer by Judge Napolitano in which he discusses his views on Russia, China, and the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

    For the record, I partially differ with him on China: I too would prefer to see Taiwan remain independent, but I do not think this is a vital American interest.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  326. @Ron Unz

    Ron Unz wrote to me:

    That’s very interesting and certainly a very strong-minded column. We didn’t quite overlap at Stanford but which professors gave you such a hard time? I don’t recall discussing politics much with my professors, but I never thought of Lenny Susskind in that category. Michael Peskin? Bernard Gittelman? Maybe some other names I’ve forgotten?

    Of the three you mention, the only one I knew was Lenny, who was on my thesis committee, and Lenny was not one of those who went after me. Lenny is of course quite a character but, as far as I know, has professional integrity. And, indeed, I have no idea what Lenny’s views on Israel are.

    I will also add that the thugs who went after me were not any of the Nobel laureates I have taken classes from or worked for — Feynman, Steve Weinberg, Kip Thorne, Burt Richter, and Marty Perl.

    Weinberg supported Zionism; Feynman did not. I do not know the views of the other three. In any case, I doubt that any of them would have retaliated against a student as the thugs did to me.

    As to who they were… well, they made some very nasty threats specifically to “harm” me — I think they probably meant lawsuits rather than actual physical harm — if I went public with their names. Since my wife and I are now financially comfortable, I am wary of revealing their names.

    So, I merely will say that they were then at SLAC, but aren’t any longer, and leave it at that. One of them was actually kicked out of SLAC in a rather amusing incident.

    When they die (they are quite old now), I’ll go public with their names.

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  327. @Pixo

    ‘…Israel-Gaza is a war of judeo-christian civilization v brown arab barbarism, of higher versus lower forms of human life…’

    Leaving aside the canard of ‘Judeo-Christian civilization’ (what ‘Judeo’?), you appear to be unaware that most of the Jews in Israel are from North Africa and the Middle East, and have decidedly unimpressive average IQ scores themselves.

    In your terms, we have a battle between two groups of ‘brown Arab barbarians’, applauded by you, who in doing so has inadvertently demonstrated that he is not merely a bigot, but an ignorant one.

    It’s an unedifying spectacle — and you’re the worst of it. The murderous partisans of Jewish racial supremacy have at least the excuse that they were raised in a society that taught them this was the truth.

    I doubt if you can claim even that. There may well be higher forms of human life, but you’re not one of them.

    • Replies: @Pixo
  328. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] …Current polls indicate that a majority of the US population wants a cease-fire and an end to the genocide in Gaza: my view on this is hardly controversial. Indeed, it is one of the least controversial views I or anyone has voiced in Steve’s comment section…

    [Colin] I’d say you misunderstand something; it is not the unpopular views that need to be censored, but the popular ones.

    Well… I see your point.

    But what I was specifically addressing was Steve Sailer censoring (i.e., not allowing) some comments of mine responding to posters who support the genocide in Gaza.

    Is Steve doing that because Steve is part of the ruling elite and is carrying out their will?

    Well… as I have said, I have been following Steve for more than fifteen years, since before his blog was hosted here on unz.com. I’m afraid I have trouble believing that the guy who spread the “Deep State” meme is himself actually a loyal operative of the Deep State!

    I think it’s gotta be something else. It is conceivable that some Deep State guys actually threatened him, but frankly I don’t think he is important enough to warrant that. It is more possible that he is influenced by some big contributors, but, frankly, most human beings are not really all that mercenary.

    So… I am inclined to think it is more subtle, most probably just getting old and cautious and wanting to — finally! — fit in.

    The funny thing is, as you suggest, that the views Steve used to embrace are now supported by a larger fraction of the populace than those views were when Steve was pushing them, in some cases, now by a majority. But “fitting in” is usually not a matter of getting majority approval; it is usually a matter of “fitting in”with the “right people,” the “Inner Ring,” to use the phrase of C. S. Lewis (see here for his interesting essay on the matter).

    Steve is of course pretty much a “no excuses /no explanations / no apologies” kind of guy (hey — it is his sandbox!), so we’ll probably never know.

    But, Occam’s Razor — it seems to me the simplest explanation. To be sure, not everyone ages in this way: if you read my college opinion column to which I linked above, I think you will agree that I am at least as radical today as I was back then. It’s not that I wouldn’t sorta like to be celebrated by my fellow physicists, to win a Nobel prize and all the rest, but, to be perfectly honest, all that sounds a little boring to me. But most people are not like me, it seems.

    This growing desire for approval and acceptance and avoidance of conflict does seem to be what happens to most people as they get old.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  329. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    A bit like Robert Poley’s role in the Babington Plot of 1586. Poley was a “friend” of Babington but also a government agent. While the plotters were brutally executed, Poley was kept in the Tower of London for two years but in comfortable conditions. He was not totally trusted by his handlers but his imprisonment seems mainly to have been designed to conceal his role. After release, he was one of those present during the mysterious death of Christopher Marlowe in 1593.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Poley

  330. Pixo says:
    @Colin Wright

    “ that most of the Jews in Israel are from North Africa and the Middle East, and have decidedly unimpressive average IQ scores themselves.”

    Sephardi and Persian Jews have IQs around 100, maybe a tad higher. Not too bad. The low IQ Jews seem to be Yemeni, Syrian and Iraqi Jews who are Hebrew-Arab mixes and Ethiopians who are unrelated to ancient Jews.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  331. Wild Man says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I think you guys should work our who the Jewish personages are, at the under current level, that are for the Zionist Cluster-B-afflicted psycho-bitch nation known as present day Israel, and go for the jugular now (otherwise, you indeed are getting mixed up in the psycho drama that bitch harridan constantly screams out like an old witch, … oh so grating, … we can’t just continue to pretend forever that there is a very very very mentally ill and incorrigible personage over in that corner [Zionist Israel] that ruins everything, for everyone else, always).

    If you Jews don’t, … someone else will (the long history on this, indicates so), …. in another way, …. that you probably won’t like.

    Physicist Dave: Who do you want to be giving high praise to in your new book (provided it is worthy, … which it seems it probably will be)? People aligned with the Zionist Cluster-B-afflicted psycho-bitch nation known as present day Israel (high praise for probable fake reasons), or people who are not utter duds like this (who therefore may offer their real sentiments, which I think is what you would want)? Think it through. There is no good easy solution here. But for Crissakes, letting Zionist trolls with some reach off the hook, at this juncture, is very poor form, to my mind.

    Reasonably minded Jews need to go first on this action (otherwise, history says, … it won’t go well).

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  332. @PhysicistDave

    Mearsheimer is not really sacrificing his life as a real hero does. He’s not even sacrificing his career, at this point in it. Who knows, he maybe losing a few invitations for lectures, though I doubt it very much.
    As for “offensive realism”, I guess the name is right: it’s really offensive. To my intelligence, I mean.
    Compare China vs. Tibet with Israel vs. Hamas, for example. The invasion of Tibet clearly may be categorized as a right move according to Mearsheimer’s theory. Tibet was a weak country, and China took over without a war. Perfect. Was Tibet a threat to China? None at all. But his theory is “paranoid”. Countries are always imagining danger and acting to suppress it.
    On the other hand, take Hamas and Israel. Hamas is clearly dangerous to Israel, but Mearsheimer says it is not an “existential” danger. Well, the weaselling begins there. Of course China was allowed to be paranoid about Tibet, but Israel isn’t. Why?
    Then, Mearsheimer goes on to say his theory applies only between countries, and Hamas isn’t a country. He say it’s more like a civil war. I suppose that would preclude the one-state solution for that region, because civil war would plague it indefinitely. Are you in favor of a two-state solution? Hamas does not seem very keen on accepting it.

    For the record, I partially differ with him on China: I too would prefer to see Taiwan remain independent, but I do not think this is a vital American interest.

    Hahaha, that’s where your distaste for strong dictatorships gets in conflict with your distaste for wars.

  333. @Pixo

    ‘…Sephardi and Persian Jews have IQs around 100, maybe a tad higher. Not too bad. The low IQ Jews seem to be Yemeni, Syrian and Iraqi Jews who are Hebrew-Arab mixes and Ethiopians who are unrelated to ancient Jews.’

    Of course, the descendants of your ‘ancient Jews’ are today’s Palestinians.

    So you could say you’re right: it is a battle between the light and the dark. We’re the dark.

  334. @Brás Cubas

    ‘Compare China vs. Tibet with Israel vs. Hamas, for example. The invasion of Tibet clearly may be categorized as a right move according to Mearsheimer’s theory. Tibet was a weak country, and China took over without a war. Perfect. Was Tibet a threat to China? None at all. But his theory is “paranoid”. Countries are always imagining danger and acting to suppress it.
    On the other hand, take Hamas and Israel. Hamas is clearly dangerous to Israel, but Mearsheimer says it is not an “existential” danger. Well, the weaselling begins there. Of course China was allowed to be paranoid about Tibet, but Israel isn’t. Why?’

    Mearsheimer aside, I see three primary differences between Tibet and Palestine.

    1. The Chinese are perfectly willing to let the Tibetans stay and be assimilated. The Jews offer no such option to the Palestinians. It’s Nazis and untermenschen time there.

    2. Tibet, we can’t do much about. Zionism, we can pull the plug on any time.

    3. We made Israel, and it couldn’t continue to exist without our sponsorship. China annexing Tibet, we had no say in.

    Really, it’s a bit like there’s my son, Israel, and the mafia family downtown. My son Israel is out there raping girls every night. I’m not about to take on the local mafia — so the argument is that I bear no responsibility for the behavior of my son.

    Oh, I differ. Let’s fucking rope Junior in. We can talk about what to do about the mafia; that’s a whole different kettle of fish.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  335. Riight.

    https://twitter.com/DefundIsraelNow/status/1745133135548068350?s=20

    Now, you see, this is where I always wind up with Trump. I don’t particularly like the guy; I never have. But it’s always the alternatives. In 2016, it was Trump…or Carson, or Cruz, or Clinton.

    Uh huh. Donald, Donald, he’s my man.

    In 2024? Well, obviously not De Santis. Nikki Haley is Satan incarnate. Biden?

    Sure thing. So here we are again. Donald, Donald, he’s my man…

  336. @Colin Wright

    China would never let the Tibetans become a majority in China. That’s the limit of their ‘assimilation’. Israel also has an Arab population which will never be allowed to become a majority. Of course Tibetan activism would be a no-no as well, but that was never an issue. A better example of this would be the Uyghurs. Uyghur activism is strictly reppressed. But the situations are different and no bombing was required, unlike in Israel, where Hamas had foreign backing and a whole territory at its disposal to plan its attacks and hide within.
    The rest of your comment isn’t really a reply to my comment. I never really disputed any of that. I was just analyzing the preposterousness of Mearsheimer’s doctrine.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  337. @Brás Cubas

    ‘China would never let the Tibetans become a majority in China…’

    That would be a decidedly academic concern.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  338. @Colin Wright

    Perhaps, but China wouldn’t let Tibetans rule even the region which was their former country.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet
    Anyway, I’m not sure any of your points, if right, would validate Mearsheimer’s horrible theoretical constructions which if one analyzes closely are a recipe for a dystopia on a planetary scale.
    I really dislike this guy. The fact that he is rooting for the underdog here is not enough to redeem him. You know the saying, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  339. ‘Anyway, I’m not sure any of your points, if right, would validate Mearsheimer’s horrible theoretical constructions which if one analyzes closely are a recipe for a dystopia on a planetary scale.’

    I did say right at the start that I was considering the Tibet/Palestine parallel aside from whatever Mearsheimer may have said.

    I’m not defending his formula. I’m not even defending China. I’m merely pointing out the ways in which China fails to provide a yardstick for determining our response to Israel’s crimes.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  340. Israel: fighting the good fight.

  341. Zumbuddi says:

    It’s a shame Paul C Roberts does not allow comments.

    His column today,
    Can Big Pharma be Held Accountable?
    PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS • JANUARY 10, 2024

    concluded:

    In other words, there is to be no more accountability for Big Pharma’s mass murder than there is for Israel’s mass murder of Palestinians. When mass murderers cannot be held accountable, what is the prospect for humanity?

    Recently, Alex Krainer e-mail blasted
    C0VlD 19 hoax goes to court

    It’s a legally complex case: In
    Dan Robert, et al. v. Lloyd J. Austin, III, Secretary of Defense, et al. (Robert v. Austin), filed by a legal team led by Andrew L. Schlafly, Todd Callender, David Wilson and Lisa McGee,

    [MORE]

    “presented the Supreme Court with three carefully formulated questions:

    -Whether the unlawful implementation of the harmful Covid vaccine mandate in the Armed Services properly evades judicial review based on repeal of the mandate and separation of a service member who is subject to recall to duty.
    -Whether it is proper and authorized for a court of appeals to engage in fact finding, while going outside of the record, to dismiss service members’ appeal without reaching its merits.
    -Whether the government may properly force citizens to receive an experimental gene modifying injection, recognized in the medical literature as causing severe adverse effects.”

    Aware of “rumblings” that more than a million US Army members might be “mandated” to take MrNA shots, in May 2020 lawyer Callender, himself

    “having been involved in testing of MRNA technology for over 20 years, . . . understood the danger and immediately sought to obtain a restraining order against the US Defense Secretary to prevent him from ordering the mandatory shots on the grounds that they were experimental.”

    A lower court rejected the effort; an appeal upheld the lower court, both without addressing the core issues of the complaint.

    Callender and the legal team discovered that

    “the C0VlD l9 pandemic, officially declared by President Donald Trump on 13 March 2020 had triggered a medical Martial Law that had been covertly prepared over the last 50 years!

    The foundations of this new legal framework had been struck on 10 January 1963 by reading the Communist Manifesto into the Congressional Record and outlining 45 changes that would need to be effected in order to convert the United States into a communist-like, dictatorial system. Incidentally, John F. Kennedy was assassinated in November of that same year, not long after he had warned the American people about the “monolithic and ruthless conspiracy” that sought to enslave every man, woman and child in the United States.

    Another significant event that year was the first drafting of the “Report From the Iron Mountain” which, among other things, articulated the ruling establishment’s need for permanent warfare and large-scale destruction of life (depopulation). Authors of the report explicitly advocated for “the reintroduction, in some form consistent with modern technology and political process, of slavery.” I will post a more thorough review of this monstrous report in a future article. ”

    Alex Krainer is a pretty sober guy.
    His cautionary essay at least deserves consideration.

    [Krainer’s entire essay is copied under MORE, below. I do not know how to link to it.]

    [MORE]

    C0VlD 19 hoax goes to court
    Please read, share and act, your action can make a difference to the future of humanity!
    ALEX KRAINER
    JAN 8

    On Friday, 5 Jan. 2024, the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) agreed to hear the case about whether Donald Trump is eligible for Colorado’s primary ballot. The same day, SCOTUS also began to discuss the merits of another, possibly much more important case: Dan Robert, et al. v. Lloyd J. Austin, III, Secretary of Defense, et al. (Robert v. Austin), filed by a legal team led by Andrew L. Schlafly, Todd Callender, David Wilson and Lisa McGee.

    Getting this case on the docket with the SCOTUS was in itself a major effort and a monumental achievement. If the Supreme Court agrees to hear the case, and it could be days or weeks before reach that decision, it will be a watershed moment: the first time that the public health response to C0VlD l9 and its grave implications will be challenged in court.

    Getting a court hearing matters hugely because this is how we establish incontrovertible truths and set them on record. As Todd Callender put it, courts are the finders of facts: “We are refining the facts; we are refining the questions of law, questions of philosophy, society, God, and we are arriving at our baseline: what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.”

    Ultimately, truth is the bedrock of liberty and deception is how liberty is taken from us. Indeed, it is no exaggeration to say that this case should be an epic fact-finding clash between good and evil – the clash in which you too can join the trenches of the freedom fighters (please bear with me and read on).

    The three questions

    In Robert v. Austin, the petitioners presented the Supreme Court with three carefully formulated questions:

    Whether the unlawful implementation of the harmful Covid vaccine mandate in the Armed Services properly evades judicial review based on repeal of the mandate and separation of a service member who is subject to recall to duty.
    Whether it is proper and authorized for a court of appeals to engage in fact finding, while going outside of the record, to dismiss service members’ appeal without reaching its merits.
    Whether the government may properly force citizens to receive an experimental gene modifying injection, recognized in the medical literature as causing severe adverse effects.
    Todd Callender laid out the importance of pursuing these questions in his recent testimony before the Croatian Parliament.

    Background and discovery

    Mr. Callender has 30 years’ experience practicing law and is the CEO of the free social media platform CloutHub, which is itself a powerful answer to the big tech media monopolies. But what makes Callender’s testimony particularly credible is his extensive experience in the pharmaceutical industry, working on vaccines and other medical products including MRNA technology, managing their testing and approval process and collaborating with the World Health Organization, Pfizer and many other protagonists of the C0VlD l9 pandemic.

    That experience and the research he conducted with a team of other lawyers led to some profound discoveries like the fact that today, much of the world continues to operate under a form of medical Martial Law. In the United States, important parts of the Constitution remain suspended together with the people’s constitutional rights. If unchallenged, this state of affairs could persist indefinitely.

    Wait, what? The courts have no jurisdiction???

    In May 2020 there were rumblings that 1.4 million US Army service members would be subjected to mandatory MRNA shots. Having been involved in testing of MRNA technology for over 20 years, Mr. Callender understood the danger and immediately sought to obtain a restraining order against the US Defense Secretary to prevent him from ordering the mandatory shots on the grounds that they were experimental.

    The filing was served to the Department of Defense (DOD) and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). However, rather than replying to the specific allegations, the DOD and HHS only reacted with a motion to dismiss on the grounds that the court had no jurisdiction. The court agreed and dismissed the case. Mr. Callender moved to appeal this decision, but after more than 6 months of deliberation, the Appellate Court also dismissed the case.

    The monolithic and ruthless conspiracy

    The fact that the DOD and the HHS declined to contest the case, that they did not bother to present any counter arguments, and that the courts simply abdicated their duty to adjudicate the case was a shocker and a violation of the Constitutional order of the United States of America. How could this be? As Mr. Callender and his collaborators would learn, the C0VlD l9 pandemic, officially declared by President Donald Trump on 13 March 2020 had triggered a medical Martial Law that had been covertly prepared over the last 50 years!

    The foundations of this new legal framework had been struck on 10 January 1963 by reading the Communist Manifesto into the Congressional Record and outlining 45 changes that would need to be effected in order to convert the United States into a communist-like, dictatorial system. Incidentally, John F. Kennedy was assassinated in November of that same year, not long after he had warned the American people about the “monolithic and ruthless conspiracy” that sought to enslave every man, woman and child in the United States.

    Another significant event that year was the first drafting of the “Report From the Iron Mountain” which, among other things, articulated the ruling establishment’s need for permanent warfare and large-scale destruction of life (depopulation). Authors of the report explicitly advocated for “the reintroduction, in some form consistent with modern technology and political process, of slavery.” I will post a more thorough review of this monstrous report in a future article.

    Depopulation agenda and public health dictatorship under One World Government

    In September 1994, the United Nations convened an “International Conference on Population and Development” (ICPD) in Cairo, Egypt where delegations from 179 UN member nations and several hundred NGOs agreed to create the UN Population Fund (UNFPA) and to adopt a Programme of Action, committing to a radical depopulation agenda aimed at reducing the global population by as many as 7 billion people.

    In 2005, the UN adopted the International Health Regulations (IHR 2005) which set out legally-binding “rights and obligations in handling public health events and emergencies” for 196 nations of the world. The groundwork to introduce this legal framework in the US was prepared by stealth through the adoption of the BioShield Act of 2004 and the Turning Point Model health legislation drafted at the John Hopkins University.

    The effect of these and other changes is that if the US Secretary of Health and Human Services declares a “Public Health Emergency,” or if the head of the World Health Organization declares a “Public Health Emergency of International Concern,” the US Constitution can be suspended from one day to the next, subjecting the whole nation to a medical Martial Law. Ultimately, this surrenders the nation’s sovereignty to a covert one world government. The World Health Organization would merely be its front, justified by the declared health emergency.

    Public health dictatorship is operative today

    As of today, the United States is in fact under a public health dictatorship due to the Marburg Pandemic, which was declared on 9 December 2020 and which remains in effect until August 2025. Under this medical Marital Law, a single hierarchy with plenary powers operating under the Department of Defense unites four key functions of the US executive branch:

    public health,
    law enforcement (police),
    corrections (jails) and
    judiciary (courts)

    This is what NSA whistleblower William Binney called the “turn-key totalitarian regime” which has since become operative. It explains why the US DOD and HHS can order courts to dismiss all challenges to its rule and why the courts have abdicated on their duties. It also explains how criminal conspirators like Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, Peter Daszak, Francis Collins and many others continue to walk free with no fear of prosecution or accountability for their crimes. They have literally granted themselves legal immunity by reengineering the US legal code and suspending the constitutional system of checks and balances.

    A new legal basis for slavery?

    More disturbingly still, the MRNA shots may have altered people’s genetic code which has important legal repercussions. Namely, further to the 2013 Supreme Court ruling in the Association for Molecular Pathology v. Myriad Genetics, Inc., gene modified organisms may legally be regarded as synthetic species. Gene modification renders such organisms property of patent holders who own the intellectual property rights over the newly synthesized genes.

    The legal implication of that decision is that genetically modified humans could be the property of MRNA technology patent holders or the Defense Health Agency (DHA) which was created under the DOD in 2013 and today has some 6,000 uniformed enforcement officers. Ultimately, the future of liberty is at stake in Robert v. Austin. As Todd Callender put it:

    “…the real issue that must be addressed is … can trickery be used to genetically modify a person, creating IP rights (ownership) in genetically modified people – can they be turned into vaxx slaves? Our government thinks so. They refused to deny my allegation for almost three years – they never answered our pleadings – just filed … motions to dismiss. They know we have all the facts and science. They know they cannot prevail in court. So, they’re fighting for their lives to keep our case (the ONLY one alleging this) out of court. We had a [source] in the pentagon and we knew that the SecDef’s morning briefing started with our lawsuit – it was the single most important agenda item on his radar. Why!?!”

    The price of liberty is eternal vigilance, and liberty is today under a frontal attack today.

    We can and will kill this beast by a million cuts

    This state of affairs will persist and metastasize if it is not challenged. The monolithic and ruthless conspiracy may be too big for any one legal team, institution, or even government to defeat, but it will crumble under the weight of a mass awakening, mass mobilization and millions of individual acts of noncompliance.

    This is now our struggle. We did not ask for it and we did not start it, but we can and must finish it, for it will define whether we allow the ruthless conspirators to enslave our children as they explicitly planned to do, or whether we will leave for them a better tomorrow. This struggle is today, and it is mine and yours as much as it is Callender’s, McGee’s, Schlafly’s and Wilson’s.

    We need not have illusions that the US Supreme Court will rule in our favour and that all our rights and liberties will be magically restored. This will not happen, but we must destroy this conspiracy with a hundred million acts of friction, by noncompliance and by demanding the truth. The friction we generate will quickly turn into a tsunami-like force that can overpower and demolish anything in its path. This, in fact, is how the 2020 vaccine mandates were defeated.

    How the MRNA mandates were defeated

    After the DOD and the HHS failed to reply to Todd Callender’s case and the courts dismissed it, he and his partners reached out directly to the service members of the US Defence Department. As Todd Callender put it, “we papered the hell out of the DOD and this is what stopped them.” The story should be a massive boost for our determination and courage. From Todd Calender:

    “…our template drafting was for the whole US DOD and we helped people from every branch, including Space Force and civilian DOD employees file their claims – criminal, administrative and exemptions. We not only drafted the templates, but we helped refine them and cite them with legal authority – then those people in every branch developed working groups and little schools or symposiums to help others. In the end, it grew into an unstoppable organic explosion of service members finding their courage to stand against the machine and say “NO!”

    It became a subtle but clear refusal to follow an illegal order, which they ALL understood correctly to be their right as a military or civilian service member.

    They did it so perfectly and legally that the DOD leadership could not declare it a revolt as they would have liked – because that would have given them the power to punish. They tried anyway and we went to court for several of our clients – courts martial and otherwise. A couple of times the pentagon sought to grab clients and throw them in psych wards to prove their power and scare the rest. It didn’t work. We won even when we lost because the service members had already found the courage to see their decisions through.

    It took one soldier to stand – and unfortunately, I was the only lawyer licensed to bring the case – the first year I prepared to fight to the death every night I took the garbage out or end to work. Dan Robert (plaintiff #1) was in the same boat and lost his wife from the stress. In the end 400,000 service members (military and civilian) stood and said no – from E-‘s to O-6’s and one general who requested our help through his wife – even a few LEO’s in DOD (special agents).”

    It’s, “all hands on deck” moment for humanity!

    Robert v. Austin could prove a nuclear truth bomb in this struggle which is why I am concluding this article with an explicit request for your support and involvement. I have reached out to Todd Callender to ask him what we can do to help their case get the hearing at the Supreme Court. His answer, word for word:

    “Yes! Have people call their political representatives and ask about the case and their position on it. People have called the Supreme Court to ask questions, like what they’re doing, whether they’re going to hear it and whether they understand the issues before them. This happened in the Trump contests and didn’t seem to have any benefit. At the end of the day, the political people who get voted in and out are the ones that can mess with the Justices, so pressure on them is the place to apply it. If people were to flood the congress with questions about whether they are owned because they got the shots, congress would have to deal with it. …”

    Please do this and if you have a way of encouraging others to do it by sharing this article or sharing the contact information of your representatives in Congress and in US Senate, in the military and law enforcement, please do that too. Polite, yet firm grassroots pressure on policymakers can alter the outcome just as it defeated the MRNA vaccination mandate under the DOD. Not only ours, but our children’s and their children’s future is at stake. If we act, if we respond in large numbers, we will slay the beast. In fact, there can only be two ways for us to lose this struggle: either by passively acquiescing or by falling for misdirection bait.

    Beware the China misdirection

    The five-decades of legal preparations, laying the groundwork for medical Martial Law and One World Government dictatorship provides important circumstantial evidence about who the ultimate culprits are, and also who they are not. The list of prime suspects includes members of the Club of Rome, the Bilderberg Group, World Economic Forum, World Health Organization, as well as many western NGOs, foundations and Big Pharma corporations. While certain Chinese entities clearly played a role in the recent C0VlD l9 pandemic, their part in the whole conspiracy was minor.

    We should therefore be careful not to fall for misdirection propagated by certain circles who, in framing the “CCP” as the main culprit are whitewashing the role of Western oligarchies who are clearly the ultimate conspirators.

    Throughout history, ruling oligarchies have reached for the “barbarians at the gate” alarm to foment foreign wars and misdirect the population’s grievances toward a foreign enemy. Today we know that western ruling establishments are planning to bring about a major war against China, and that much of the information about China and the “CCP” that percolates from hundreds of think tanks through mass media and social media networks is deliberately spun, distorted and contrived to demonize Chinese leadership and orchestrate a devastating war.

    One of the most dangerous insinuations in this sense is that the “CCP” has been running the whole biological warfare show through the World Health Organization. But the WHO’s largest paymasters by far are western governments and private foundations. China only provides about 0.69% of the WHO’s budget. Here’s who funded the WHO just before the C0VlD l9 pandemic agenda was unleashed:

    As with all criminal conspiracies, who pays the piper calls the tune. We will identify the conspiracy’s origin not by following ideology or propaganda, but by following the money. The most tragic mistake and the greatest gift to the ruthless conspirators behind the cascading pandemic hoaxes would be to shed the blood of our children in fighting the wrong enemy.

    I am deeply grateful to Todd Callender for his help in drafting this article and for his and his legal team’s courageous struggle against the slithering conspiracy. Let us all become a cavalry of millions to make sure they are not alone. Together we will prevail!

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  342. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…I think it’s gotta be something else. It is conceivable that some Deep State guys actually threatened him, but frankly I don’t think he is important enough to warrant that. It is more possible that he is influenced by some big contributors, but, frankly, most human beings are not really all that mercenary.

    So… I am inclined to think it is more subtle, most probably just getting old and cautious and wanting to — finally! — fit in…”

    I agree — particularly with the improbability of any formal threats. The world’s just not that organized, for one thing.

    However, people usually have more than one motive for their positions, and I think it’s legitimate to speculate that Steve may have been led to see Jews — and hence Israel — as ‘us,’ and the Arabs — and hence Palestinians — as ‘them.’

    The Israelis and their supporters have engaged in a lot of more or less insiduous propaganda to portray themselves as ‘one of us,’ while demonizing the Arabs. I think people would be shocked if they looked at who the average Israeli Jew actually is — sort of like switching from Thomas Sowell to your average ghetto black. At the same time, would you want your daughter to go out with an Arab? We’ve come a long way from the romantic image that used to be purveyed — and I don’t think that’s an accident.

    So I think that Steve may just be veering away from appearing to support the bad guys — he doesn’t want to. Propaganda works.

  343. @Wild Man

    Wild Man wrote to me:

    If you Jews don’t,

    Well… as I keep pointing out, I am not Jewish. I am of Irish, German, and English ancestry with perhaps a smattering of Scot, Welsh, and Dutch — family history is rather vague. No Jews that anyone knows of.

    My parents were Christians who dragged my brothers and me to a Southern Baptist church, but none of us chose to be baptized or to “accept Jesus” or to join the church. So I have never been an adherent of any church or religious movement at all. I am an “atheist” in the sense that I am not a theist — i.e., I lack a belief in any divine figure — but I am not a member of any atheist movement or organization.

    So… who do you mean by “you Jews”?

    Wild Man also wrote:

    Physicist Dave: Who do you want to be giving high praise to in your new book (provided it is worthy, … which it seems it probably will be)? People aligned with the Zionist Cluster-B-afflicted psycho-bitch nation known as present day Israel (high praise for probable fake reasons)

    In the book I’ll be thanking my former professors Richard Feynman and Kip Thorne and their own thesis advisor, John Wheeler. Kip was raised as a Mormon but is not of course a practicing Mormon as an adult. Wheeler was a Unitarian. Feynman was indeed Jewish but was not a Zionist.

    Since the book is about General Relativity, which was discovered by Albert Einstein, the book obviously must refer on several occasions to Einstein. Not much I can do about that.

    In any case, I do not really care about the ethnic background or political or religious opinions of other physicists: I care about their scientific integrity and their contributions to physics.

    Frankly, you seem to be seeing Jews behind every cupboard and you seem to think that Jews have a unity they do not have.

    Not much I can do about that either.

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  344. @Brás Cubas

    Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    Mearsheimer is not really sacrificing his life as a real hero does. He’s not even sacrificing his career, at this point in it. Who knows, he maybe losing a few invitations for lectures, though I doubt it very much.

    Well, of course, Mearsheimer is not Sergeant York charging a German machine-gun nest!

    On the other hand, my observation is that most human beings are not lacking in physical courage. What most human beings lack is moral courage, the willingness to speak up against the crowd.

    This is especially true in the American academic world which is a veritable cesspool of bootlicking and backslapping. Most academics who manage to reach Mearsheimer’s level have spent their whole life trying to fit in with the crowd: I think it does take real courage to make a break as he has done.

    And remember: the Zionists have brought down two Ivy League presidents. They really can destroy careers and reputations.

    BC also wrote:

    Compare China vs. Tibet with Israel vs. Hamas, for example. The invasion of Tibet clearly may be categorized as a right move according to Mearsheimer’s theory. Tibet was a weak country, and China took over without a war. Perfect.

    I think you are misreading Mearsheimer: he has made clear that he does not love the current international system, but it is the system that exists and we better be honest in looking at how that system works.

    In the case of Tibet, anyone with any knowledge of history grasps that it is nearly inevitable that China would dominate Tibet. And the theocracy of the Tibetan lamas was not exactly Shangri-La either!

    Would it be nice if China would leave Tibet alone? I suppose. But I think Mearsheimer would say that anyone who thinks any other Power can force China to do so is foolish, indeed dangerously foolish.

    BC also wrote to me:

    [Dave] For the record, I partially differ with him on China: I too would prefer to see Taiwan remain independent, but I do not think this is a vital American interest.

    [BC] Hahaha, that’s where your distaste for strong dictatorships gets in conflict with your distaste for wars.

    Why?

    I am an anarchist: I am opposed to democracy, dictatorship, monarchy — you name it.

    But I am not willing to die or to compel other people to die to vent my antipathy to all of those systems.

    How does that put me in conflict?

    I have lots and lots of opinions on lots and lots of things: I think all existing religions are false and bad for human beings, I think that consuming alcohol is bad for you, I like to see pretty girls wearing dresses, I think Simon and Garfunkel were better than the Beatles, and on and on and on.

    But I am also disinclined to impose my views on this plethora of matters on my fellow human beings, though I have no inhibitions about expressing my own views.

    How is that a conflict among my ideas?

    I have my views and I express them. You have your views and express them. We can debate if both of us feel like it or otherwise we can just let it go.

    Where is the conflict in that?

    Perhaps it sounds better in French: “Laissez-faire et laissez-passer, le monde va de lui même!”

    I simply lack the desire to rule the world.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Brás Cubas
  345. Wild Man says:
    @PhysicistDave

    “If you Jews don’t,”

    Sorry Dave, …. I missed that. Others had been saying that David Miller known as PhysicistDave is Jewish. Since that is usually a quite easy thing to determine, I thought the others saying this must have done this checking, and didn’t look any further (other than noting that surname is often Jewish). My bad. My apologies on that (though I am not implying within this apology that it is simply ‘bad’ to be Jewish, per se, …i.e. – instead that issue is very complicated) … I am simply apologizing for this mis-attribution of your ethnicity (always bad form, this).

    “Frankly, you seem to be seeing Jews behind every cupboard”

    No, … but at about the 25% level within western globalist circles.

    My point about your upcoming book was that you don’t want to be perceived as being ‘influenced’ on these geopolitical matters. But by your own admittance within comment here, you are so-influenced … but which I agree now it is wisest to leave that conundrum aside (until the deaths of the involved parties accrue, as your originally advised), …. because you are not Jewish, ….. and so why should you stick your neck out when it is not a Jewish neck?, …. what good will come of that at this juncture?, …. it will only harm you personally without jarring other Jews, with respect to a potential in-group cathartic moment around how the globalist JQ racket might also strongly impinge on regular Jews, and ‘corruptively influence individual Jews within insular Jewdom’ by way of these career-blocking methods.

    In some ways it is too bad it turns our you are not Jewish. Ron Unz needs some very good and smart non-Cluster-B-type non-psycho-bitch Jewish allies, with some skin in the game (‘reputation’ in the case of someone like you, who also happens to be Jewish), right about now.

    “In any case, I do not really care about the ethnic background or political or religious opinions of other physicists: I care about their scientific integrity and their contributions to physics.”

    Yes, … that is the way it is supposed to be. By normal rights you shouldn’t even have to think about these secondary personal aspects of said scientists. It’s too bad it is not that way with some Jewish science types (by your own admittance). One would hope a Jewish scientist would come forward and begin to help Ron Unz undo these Jewish shenanigans, that you yourself have been subjected to. Once again, … too bad that is not going to be you (for us readers at UR, and for Ron Unz as well, I think).

    Dave, … thank-you for the response and for clearing the air on your ethnicity (probably but yet again, I imagine, …. my bad on the un-checked kneejerk rumor-mill buy-in, … once rumors get going like this, …. they are hard to extinguish and I inadvertently contributed to that).

  346. Odyssey says:

    I haven’t seen a text from Larry Romanoff for a long time. Is he still around?

    • Replies: @anon
  347. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…On the other hand, my observation is that most human beings are not lacking in physical courage. What most human beings lack is moral courage, the willingness to speak up against the crowd…’

    I think that’s not necessarily so. Lately, I’ve been perceiving that most people do see as the crowd sees; consensus literally takes priority over what is in front of their eyes. It may even be how we’re able to function as social animals.

    It’s a tad unfair to my wife, but I’ll cite an example from when we were traveling in Turkey. She was perpetually on Twitter or whatever, and having heard it endlessly repeated, she announced that Muslim women were fat.

    Well, we were in a provincial bus station at the time — a fine place, if you want a random slice of a nation’s humanity. So I got up, and took pictures of the first seven women I saw.

    One was a tad middle-aged and matronly; the other six were impeccably slender. The point is my wife had given priority to what she was told over what was literally right in front of her eyes. ‘Muslim women are fat;’ she could have seenq that wasn’t so. Instead, she adopted the view that others had.

    And maybe most people do that. Those of us who don’t — maybe we’re just being difficult. So perhaps it’s not a lack of moral courage; perhaps it’s genuinely simply seeing as others see.

    To go off on another tangent, perhaps part of the crisis we’re having at the moment is that the media is pushing too hard in its attempts to take advantage of this tendency. Sure, we can adjust our perceptions in accord with what we’re told to some extent; if we don’t actually have much contact with blacks, we can accept that they’re fine. We can accept that women can make good policemen. Etc. Walter Cronkite can nudge us a bit to the Left. It works.

    But when transsexuals are pushed as anything other than individuals suffering from a pathological delusion, when we’re told that illegals aren’t pouring into the country unchecked, when widespread riots and looting are ‘mostly peaceful protests,’ we start to choke.

    …and the consensus that allows society to function starts to break down, and soon, we’re not agreeing at all. We can’t accept the nonsense that we’re told, and when everyone starts substituting his own perceptions for that, we’re on the way to anarchy — and in a very, very bad sense.

  348. @Zumbuddi

    Zum-Zum, it’s great that you’re bringing up the matter of the Covid Psyop.
    I’ve asked Ron Unz to post some articles on it and look into the sky high increases in All Cause Mortality that continue to the present day, but Ron refuses to revisit it.

    Below I’ve posted a short-ish video featuring Dr Peter McCullough addressing the European Parliament about the catastrophic and ONGOING death and injury toll from the Covid ‘vaccine’ clot shots:

    https://rumble.com/v3hwcgm-dr.-mcculloughs-speech-at-the-european-parliament.html

    UR readers, don’t turn you back on this matter and believe, in the event that you’ve been jabbed and suffered no ill effects so far, that it won’t happen down the track to you or a loved one.
    This is the greatest mass cull of humanity, outside of war, in recorded history.
    The ZOG perpetrators of this crime must be held to account.

  349. @Wild Man

    Sorry Dave, …. I missed that. Others had been saying that David Miller known as PhysicistDave is Jewish.
    Dave, … thank-you for the response and for clearing the air on your ethnicity

    Wild Fellow, you are someone I’ve observed to be an individual of the utmost integrity.
    As such, you are the last person that should be apologising to the mendacious low-life Physicist Dovid (aka Phy-Do).
    Just because he says he’s not Jewish, doesn’t make it so.

    REMEMBER, this is the same Phy-Do that is in full agreement with the preposterous USG/NIST (ZOG dictated) narrative that the buildings of the WTC on the day of 9/11 came down in a fire induced gravity collapse.
    Are you going to believe him or YOUR OWN EYES, seeing as we all saw in those videos that the Twin Towers were BLOWN UP?

    Some months ago in another thread, my Jewish pal Mevashir (at least he was formerly Jewish – he has since renounced Judaism and adopted Christianity), looked into Dave Miller’s background and into the Jewishness of the surname ‘Miller’.
    I have personally encountered Millers who were Jewish and Mevashir confirmed that ‘Millers’ are disproportionately represented amongst Jews.

    In the end, Dave Miller’s Jewishness is not the issue, because there are countless righteous Jews out there doing the right thing to promote truth.
    What matters is, not whether one is or isn’t Jewish, but whether one identifies with and/or sides with the malevolent Jews and malevolent shabbos goys.
    Joe Biden, by his own admission, is a Zionist. Lindsey Graham is aligned with Malevolent International Jewry, and is as despicable a rodent as you’ll ever encounter.

    Meanwhile, if you’d read the exchange I had with Phy-Do earlier on in this thread, his come back to my accusations against him were (more or less to the effect of):

    ‘I am the science. (Channelling Tony Fauci during the Covid Psyop)’.
    He said: ‘I am a physicist. Who are you to be questioning the ‘science’ ?’

    Of course, Phy-Do’s ‘science’ on 9/11 is no more scientific than Tony Fauci’s and Rochelle Walensky’s ‘science’ (ie: the Covid vaxx is safe and effective), was during the Covid Psyop.
    Everything that Phy-Do has posted in his defence of the ZOG/NIST narrative of the WTC building collapses is pseudo-science.
    He is a BALD FACED LIAR.

    As many UR readers will know, and I have made clear, I live in a country that does not have U.S First Amendment freedom of speech protection rights. As such, I don’t use my real name in UR, instead using a pseudonym. I reveal very few specifics about myself or my academic background.
    Suffice to say though, my hard science qualifications are ‘substantial’.

    In any case, even if I’d only progressed no further than a 1st grade education, I (and every other UR reader) have the right to challenge Phy-Do’s bogus explanation for the events of 9/11, because WE ACT IN THE CAPACITY OF THE MESSENGER.

    In other words, our views of 9/11 are based on the ANALYSIS OF EXPERTS THAT ARE INFINITELY WISER AND MORE HIGHLY ACCREDITED than little ol’ Phy-Do.

    Case in Point: Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, utilising the research of Prof Leroy Hulsey at the Univ. of Alaska Fairbanks, have conducted a Finite Element Analysis on the collapse of Bldg 7, and proven that it did NOT come down in a fire induced gravity collapse.

    Also people assume that, because it’s called AE911Truth, that one must be either an Architect or and Engineer to be part of the organisation.
    NOT SO !!
    Yes, there are over 3500 Architects and Engineers which are core constituents, but in ADDITION to that, there are 15,000 -20,000 or so other professionals like:

    Physicists, Chemists, Metallurgists, Mathematicians, Controlled Demolition Experts, Emeritus professors, Phd’s and other hard science credentialled academics that are also signatories to the charter of AE9/11 Truth, and contributing the analysis of what happened on 9/11.
    Among these tens of thousands of individuals, there would be a minimum of many hundreds (if not thousands), EACH OF WHICH would be more qualified to give an opinion on the events pertaining to 9/11 than our ZOG establishment aligned disinfo peddler Phy-Do.

    SUMMARY: The collective opinions of the not-beholden-to-ZOG professionals and academics that comprise the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth organisation, are many orders of magnitude better qualified to offer an opinion on the events of 9/11 than the LIAR Phy-Do.
    UR readers, you have been warned. Phy-Do is not to be trusted.

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  350. @Wild Man

    Wild Man wrote to me:

    Sorry Dave, …. I missed that. Others had been saying that David Miller known as PhysicistDave is Jewish. Since that is usually a quite easy thing to determine, I thought the others saying this must have done this checking, and didn’t look any further (other than noting that surname is often Jewish).

    Is it easy to determine?

    My experience is that most people of Jewish descent or who are believers in Judaism are willing to say so in the real world. Not so much on the Web.

    Back where I come from, the St. Louis area, the name “Miller” is almost always either English or is Anglicized from the German Müller, the former in my own case. I have actually never met a Jewish guy whose last name is Miller, though I know there are such people, such as Trump’s associate Steve Miller.

    But if the person does not volunteer that he is Jewish, or does not volunteer that he has a distinctively Jewish name such as Goldstein, how can you tell?

    Among the commenters here, Jack D is quite belligerent about being Jewish. Pixo has recently said he is. But anyone else… how can you tell?

    By the way, the one person I know of here who keeps saying falsely that I am Jewish is “Truth Vigilante” whose name is a bit of a joke: he routinely just makes things up and lies and lies and lies.

    Unfortunately, there are a disturbing number of people on the Web like him, so it is a mistake to suppose that some random guy has checked what he is saying.

    WM also wrote:

    [Dave] “In any case, I do not really care about the ethnic background or political or religious opinions of other physicists: I care about their scientific integrity and their contributions to physics.”

    [WM] Yes, … that is the way it is supposed to be. By normal rights you shouldn’t even have to think about these secondary personal aspects of said scientists. It’s too bad it is not that way with some Jewish science types (by your own admittance).

    Well, there are, alas, lots of bad people in the world! But how is that relevant to the issue of whom I would mention in the book I am writing?

    I mean why would I bother to mention the jerks I knew at Stanford one way or the other? They just don’t matter for the topic of the book.

    WM also wrote:

    One would hope a Jewish scientist would come forward and begin to help Ron Unz undo these Jewish shenanigans, that you yourself have been subjected to.

    Why would a Jewish scientist be any more successful at that than any other scientist? Good Jews cannot control bad Jews any more than good blonds can control bad blonds, you know.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  351. @PhysicistDave

    But I am also disinclined to impose my views on this plethora of matters on my fellow human beings, (…).

    You have no power, so I must take your word for it.

    (…) though I have no inhibitions about expressing my own views.

    If you had been born in China (or Russia, or Iran), your lack of inhibitions would probably entail a prison sentence.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  352. @Colin Wright

    OK, I didn’t notice that caveat. And I agree with you. Speaking as a foreigner, the U.S. should not support Israel in this, unless it can provide a better justification for it, that I fail to see at the moment.

  353. Wild Man says:
    @PhysicistDave

    “Is it easy to determine?

    My experience is that most people of Jewish descent or who are believers in Judaism are willing to say so in the real world. Not so much on the Web.”

    Well, yes, it is is quite easy to determine because the real personage, will have been quoted claiming so, as found within fairly reliable internet links, including Wikipedia.

    “Well, there are, alas, lots of bad people in the world! But how is that relevant to the issue of whom I would mention in the book I am writing?

    I mean why would I bother to mention the jerks I knew at Stanford one way or the other? They just don’t matter for the topic of the book.”

    I think my point about who you would like blessing your book, and for what reasons (particularly if it were true your were Jewish, that is) is that this isn’t at all nearly within your control, by way of who you thank.

    “Why would a Jewish scientist be any more successful at that than any other scientist? Good Jews cannot control bad Jews any more than good blonds can control bad blonds, you know.”

    Well, …. you haven’t figured accurately here, have you? If there is a Jewish Zionist racket, that affected you and your career-path, as based on this calculus:

    1) Scientist that speaks against Zionism but who is not Jewish

    2)Scientist that speaks against Zionism but who is Jewish

    3) Scientist the speaks for Zionism but who is not Jewish

    4) Scientist the speak for Zionism but who is Jewish

    , …. I think then, you are implying with that statement of yours, that the #1’s and #2’s are treated the same by globalist authorities that hold the scientist’s purse-strings (money for the purpose of continuing with scientific endeavors). How do you know that, though? Unless instead you are implying that Zionist Jewish scientists that subvert science in order to uphold Zionism (as you claimed you were on the receiving end of) cannot be controlled by anyone? But that is dumb on the face of it, so I assume you are not implying that.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  354. Wild Man says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I never waded into the 9/11 intrigue quite as deeply as you. In the afternoon of September 11, 2001, as I was watching on the television (like everyone else) and saw the building 7 collapse in real-time, …. well, ….. I immediately knew (by an overwhelming intuitive gut feeling) that this whole thing was a massive charade (but featuring a whole lot of real death and destruction, nevertheless). This is very similar to how the events of Jan 6th, 2021 were broadcasted in real-time on the television for all to see, yet the official Trump-derangement-syndrome narrative did not jive with what was shown on tv (even the vapid CNN tv).

    The official 9/11 narrative is completely bogus on many fronts, … is what I have determined for myself (the structural implausibility of a fire-caused building 7 collapse, in the way it collapsed, is only one of many glaring such implausibilities, that occurred that day, and in the days that followed).

    I was not aware that PhysicistDave doesn’t see it this way (apparently).

  355. @Wild Man

    Wild Man wrote to me:

    [Dave] “Is it easy to determine?

    My experience is that most people of Jewish descent or who are believers in Judaism are willing to say so in the real world. Not so much on the Web.”

    [Wild Man] Well, yes, it is is quite easy to determine because the real personage, will have been quoted claiming so, as found within fairly reliable internet links, including Wikipedia.

    Really?

    So how can I determine whether you are Jewish or not? You have not given your real name.

    And most commenters on the Web don’t.

    I myself have indeed given my real name, but there is no Wikipedia article on me.

    What you are suggesting will therefore work for almost no one.

    Can you name even one commenter here for whom your method would work?

    WM also wrote:

    I think my point about who you would like blessing your book, and for what reasons (particularly if it were true your were Jewish, that is) is that this isn’t at all nearly within your control, by way of who you thank.

    Hmmm…. you seem not to understand: my book is a technical monograph on General Relativity, written for physicists and advanced physics students — you will not find it at your local Barnes and Noble.

    This sort of book does not get a “blessing” from anyone.

    WM also wrote:

    [Dave] “Why would a Jewish scientist be any more successful at that than any other scientist? Good Jews cannot control bad Jews any more than good blonds can control bad blonds, you know.”

    [WM] Well, …. you haven’t figured accurately here, have you? If there is a Jewish Zionist racket, that affected you and your career-path, as based on this calculus:

    1) Scientist that speaks against Zionism but who is not Jewish

    2)Scientist that speaks against Zionism but who is Jewish

    3) Scientist the speaks for Zionism but who is not Jewish

    4) Scientist the speak for Zionism but who is Jewish

    , …. I think then, you are implying with that statement of yours, that the #1’s and #2’s are treated the same by globalist authorities that hold the scientist’s purse-strings (money for the purpose of continuing with scientific endeavors). How do you know that, though?

    I did not say there was “a Jewish Zionist racket, that affected [me] and [my] career-path.” That’s not how it works. When you are finishing your Ph.D., you rely on the particular professors you have worked with to help you get your first job. The particular professors I had worked with decided to stick it to me.

    That’s all.

    No “Jewish Zionist racket.” Just a handful of thugs who decided to kick me out of academic physics. And who were in a position to do so since I was just finishing my doctorate.

    I’m afraid that your understanding of how the American academic system functions is defective.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  356. @Brás Cubas

    Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    [Dave] But I am also disinclined to impose my views on this plethora of matters on my fellow human beings, (…).

    [BC} You have no power, so I must take your word for it.

    Actually, I have the same amount of power as most of my fellow citizens — one voice and one vote.

    And people who want to impose their views on others tend to be quite vociferous about that desire — indeed, they generally will just not shut up about it.

    So, the fact that I am vociferous in opposing such actions is indeed evidence. You do not just have to take my word for it. There are more than fifteen years of my comments here to serve as evidence.

    For that matter, you could follow the link I provided to the Stanford Daily archives and find that I was enunciating the same views well over forty years ago.

    BC also wrote to me:

    [Dave] (…) though I have no inhibitions about expressing my own views.

    [BC] If you had been born in China (or Russia, or Iran), your lack of inhibitions would probably entail a prison sentence.

    I take it you have never actually visited any of those countries?

    Our family visited China in 2010 during the Shanghai World Exposition. We hired various young Chinese as tour guides in several different cities. Some of them were quite open with us in offering criticisms of the regime. They had no reason to trust us — they clearly were simply not afraid of getting in trouble for criticizing the regime.

    Are Americans more free?

    Well, the current regime in the US is attempting to imprison the leading candidate for the Presidency of the United States simply because he pointed out the obvious fraud committed in the 2020 election (there is some fraud in all major US elections and always has been, at least since 1796) and because he believes that that fraud changed the election results.

    The US is holding multiple political prisoners who participated in the January 6, 2021 protest against the allegedly fraudulent election, meting out sentences unheard of in the US for such actions.

    For over a decade, the US regime has been trying to imprison the journalist Julian Assange for publishing some incriminating documents that embarrassed the US government, this despite the facts that Assange did this in another country, outside the jurisdiction of the US, and that Assange is not a US citizen. Have you ever heard of Russia, China, or Iran doing anything this tyrannical and absurd?

    Here in California, hospitals run by the University of California — both UCLA and UCSF — are sexually mutilating children who are confused about their “gender.” Does that happen in Russia, China, or Iran?

    I have just mentioned a handful of cases of totalitarian behavior by the US regime that have been widely reported by the mainstream media.

    But I can tell you from the personal experience of my family that it is really much, much worse than this.

    As I have related, my own daughter was assaulted multiple times as a student at UCLA. When she reported one such assault to the university, they punished my daughter and let the assailant off scot-free, even though the assailant confessed to multiple crimes against my daughter to the police and the university authorities. (See here for the exposé in the campus paper.)

    I have related above how my career in academic physics was destroyed because I spoke out publicly against the apartheid policies of a foreign regime that happens to be a client of the US (see here for the opinion column that got me canceled).

    I have a close family member who is a physician here in Sacramento: this person has informed me that there is massive fraud and malpractice among the medical community here. But almost all of the honest doctors are afraid to speak up publicly, basically out of fear that they will face the same sort of consequences my daughter and I have faced. Indeed, my family member did in fact have their medical career ended because they “blew the whistle” to authorities on a specific case of fraud.

    Now, yes, none of us have actually been killed (though there is Jeffrey Epstein!). But Russia, China, and Iran do not kill everyone who becomes bothersome, either. The way totalitarian societies generally work is that people who become troublesome are stripped of their careers or their livelihoods, subjected to legal harassment, etc.

    Only occasionally, like Jeffrey Epstein, are they actually murdered.

    You are wildly naive about the current situation in the USA. Again, the regime is openly and very, very aggressively trying to imprison the leading candidate for the Presidency of the United States!

    The United States of America is now a totalitarian country.

    They will probably not kill me, just as I would probably not be killed in Russia, China, or Iran: I am simply not that important.

    But the regime is indeed quite happy to imprison or even kill people who actually are important — Julian Assange, Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, etc.

    America is now a totalitarian country.

    And the chance of reclaiming the country we once had is slim indeed.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
    , @Colin Wright
  357. bjondo says:

    The Myth Of A ‘Judeo-Christian’ Tradition May 27, 2022 By Christians for Truth Team

    We can see mainstream Christianity become more and more Jewish with each passing day — and that transformation is progressing because Christians have been duped into believing that Christianity is fundamentally based on “Judaism” and “Jewish values” — while Jews concede no such thing, and rightfully see Christianity as completely antithetical to Judaism.

    This “inter-faith” dynamic is a one-way street — where Christians compromise and concede any aspect of their faith that Jews perceive as anti-Jewish — which ultimately means all of it.

    The following essay, “The Myth Of A ‘Judeo-Christian’ Tradition,” was first published in New Dawn Magazine in 1994, but it is more relevant today than it was almost 30 years ago, as we can clearly see so much of it coming to fruition.

    If nothing else, the direct quotes from Jewish sources provide invaluable, prima facie evidence that Christians are indeed being profoundly deceived — and how Jewry benefits from this deception.

    https://christiansfortruth.com/the-myth-of-a-judeo-christian-tradition/

    5ds

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  358. @PhysicistDave

    For that matter, you could follow the link I provided to the Stanford Daily archives and find that I was enunciating the same views well over forty years ago.

    Of course I have read your youth article. I think I’ve reacted with a Thanks, by the way.
    That article — and the remainder of this comment I’m now replying to — suggests you are impossibly naïve. And you are an extreme manifestation of a real phenomenon: democracy fatigue.
    Yes, I was wrong: you would never become a target as a hypothetical Chinese citizen. This forum would simply not exist! I must concur that the Chinese do possess some virtues, amongst which feature the realization that prevention is always better than the cure.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  359. Wild Man says:
    @PhysicistDave

    “So how can I determine whether you are Jewish or not? You have not given your real name.

    And most commenters on the Web don’t.

    I myself have indeed given my real name, but there is no Wikipedia article on me.

    What you are suggesting will therefore work for almost no one.

    Can you name even one commenter here for whom your method would work?”

    You can’t determine whether commenters are sincere in their ethno-identity-claims unless they have risen to a position of some relative cultural importance, to the point that, other people are talking about them and their offerings, and then you get the additional information freely available on the internet (Wikipedia, for instance) like I said. The comments here coming from Ron Unz meet this standard. No one is going to effectively argue that Ron Unz is not Jewish, when he claims so, because his ethnicity has become an issue of some cultural interest, and therefore also probable personal interest, among those he has known in his life, if the emerging public persona does not match the earlier persona known by acquaintances.

    Like I said in prior comment, my interest, as it pertains to the JQ, is about what is going on, demographic presence-wise, (and therefore probable power-wise) within western globalist circles, …. and we should expect that pret near 100% of the people that populate these western globalist circles, have risen to enough relative cultural importance, to the point that, other people are talking about them and their offerings, and then you get the additional information freely available on the internet (Wikipedia, for instance) like I said.

    “I did not say there was “a Jewish Zionist racket, that affected [me] and [my] career-path.” That’s not how it works. When you are finishing your Ph.D., you rely on the particular professors you have worked with to help you get your first job. The particular professors I had worked with decided to stick it to me.

    That’s all.

    No “Jewish Zionist racket.” Just a handful of thugs who decided to kick me out of academic physics. And who were in a position to do so since I was just finishing my doctorate.”

    OK, have it your way. It is your life and I wasn’t there. But if the thugs were Jews, and the issue that got your career-path fucked-up by said Jewish thugs was your stance on Zionism, …. to other people’s ears (i.e. – mine) it sounds like a ‘Jewish Zionist Racket’. Not sure why, by these adjectives/nouns/events that you use to describe what happened to you (Jewish/thugs/Zionists/’kick me out of academic physics’), …. it seems I am understanding you correctly despite your claims otherwise.

    I mean, …. it is a very interesting query that I offered, that doesn’t seem to have a ready answer (which I thought at first, we might start to get the beginning of an answer, by way of a Jewish scientist mistreated like this, …. when I mistakenly at first thought you were Jewish). My point is, … I don’t think either of us has a good way to determine whether the #1’s and #2’s are treated the same by globalist authorities that hold the scientist’s purse-strings (money for the purpose of continuing with scientific endeavors). But we should try to find out – no?

    On the ‘blessing’ thing, in general (even within Academia): I believe, there persists ways to unjustly take power away from otherwise worthy people (‘worthy’ as measured by Academic merit, in this case), because their belief-system does not sufficiently align with the western globalist agenda, and these globalist methods are indeed well exercised.

  360. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Why would a Jewish scientist be any more successful at that than any other scientist? Good Jews cannot control bad Jews any more than good blonds can control bad blonds, you know…”

    Certainly with respect to Israel, a Jew’s condemnation carries a certain authority that the condemnation of a gentile would lack. After all, a gentile may be merely a compulsive antisemite. That’s a decidedly implausible accusation to level against a Jew — not out of the question, but on the face of it, unreasonable. I mean, show me Norm Finkelstein hates Jews. I’m skeptical.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  361. bjondo says:

    Whistleblower Rabbi Claims ‘Child-Rape Assembly Line’ Exists Among Orthodox Jews In Brooklyn CFT, January 12, 2024

    [We are republishing this updated article from 5 years ago because it is now getting a lot of traction after Orthodox Jews at the Chabad headquarters in Brooklyn were discovered to have dug a secret tunnel under their synagogues where bloody mattresses were discovered.]

    https://christiansfortruth.com/whistleblower-rabbi-claims-child-rape-assembly-line-exists-among-orthodox-jews/

    5ds

  362. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Back where I come from, the St. Louis area, the name “Miller” is almost always either English or is Anglicized from the German Müller, the former in my own case. I have actually never met a Jewish guy whose last name is Miller, though I know there are such people, such as Trump’s associate Steve Miller…’

    I knew a Jewish ‘Miller,’ and I have the vague impression of having encountered others on the web. ‘Miller’ strikes me as one of those gentile names Jews are likely to adopt.

    No Jewish ‘Wrights.’ We’re all sound (Colin looks around apprehensively).

    Sigh. It’s all very obscure. For example, ‘Unz’ was also the surname of a German regimental commander on Crete in 1941. ‘Strauss’ was a German composer of definitely gentile antecedents — and also the name of the very clearly Jewish family that lived across the street when I was growing up.

    Maybe we should make them wear yellow stars. After all, at the moment, I often find myself arguing with people about just how disproportionate Jewish influence is in all movements wrecking America. It’s hard to be sure if you can’t reliably detect the Jews…

  363. @PhysicistDave

    ‘I myself have indeed given my real name, but there is no Wikipedia article on me.’

    That’s of limited value. Wikipedia frequently omits to mention the fact if someone is Jewish. In fact, that just happened with the appointment of a temporary president for Harvard. The entry on the appointee was edited to omit the statement that he was raised in a Jewish household.

    …it’s actually exasperating. I’d like to just know — but sometimes I have to scroll through literally pages of search entries to find — finally — the kvelling in the Rochester synagogue about the success enjoyed by Mr and Mrs Meyer’s boy, Hector.

    Usually, I just give up and decide the guy is gentile — which is, of course, the idea.

  364. bjondo says:

    Another rat, tunnel story:

    What the Media Refuses to Tell You About the Secret Jewish Tunnels Discovered in NYC
    The Red Elephants – Vincent James



    Video Link

    5ds

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @bjondo
  365. bjondo says:
    @bjondo

    Hey, Moloch, what’s goin’ on? Where’s that baby?

    The You tube video James shows around the 24 min mark:

    Jewish Historical Pageant At World’s Fair 250001-03 | Footage Farm

    comments interesting.

    5ds

  366. @Colin Wright

    It’s hard to be sure if you can’t reliably detect the Jews…

    Man, it’s not “da Joos” individually. Jewishness is a meme, a giant meme carried by many who are inbred and then taught from birth. They are taught from birth that God helped “His” people escape persecution, time after time. It’s all a made up, bullshit history, bound in books that go back far too long. And it is all pounded into their brains.

    It’s a meme (or thought virus, if you will) and it’s not any individual’s fault. Many don’t succumb to it, and they become normal people.

    Don’t assign a group meme to innocent individuals!

    Like PhysD, I have a family name, an English one in my case, that many Jewish families have. The paternal grandfather who gave me that name might even have been Jewish, but nobody in the family seems to know for sure. So what? There is a distribution, probably graphable as a standard curve even, of names that can be Jewish. Some are almost always, but others are seldom… and so forth.

    But so what? I have known many Jewish people: colleagues, lovers, friends, roommates, classmates, surgeons, orthodontists… And do you know none of them ever presented me with any reason to see them as anything other than those very titles I just gave them?

    Usually it is the bastards who become leaders of one sort or another, be it political, intellectual, financial, social, who ruin it for everyone else. Blame Jewish leaders, not individual Jews who happen to be my friends.

    Life is slippery, so it’s hard to get a grip on what is really going on. Just think of the whole, stupid, Jewish thing as a giant meme going on for thousands of years.

    If you need more examples, simply look at any other religion of any size. My favorite is Mormonism, because it is recent and I have know many of them too out West. It all started with a fake story. It is bullshit, but there are millions of them now, mostly successful, clean-living people. It’s another, more recent meme…

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  367. bjondo says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    What is it Indians say, “forked tongue or buffalo shit”?

    Anyway, a very pleasant, saccharine read.

    Of course, many would say what i write not worth any read.

    5ds

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  368. @Brás Cubas

    My little buddy Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    That article — and the remainder of this comment I’m now replying to — suggests you are impossibly naïve. And you are an extreme manifestation of a real phenomenon: democracy fatigue.

    So, how, may I ask, did the opinion column I wrote in 1979 prove that I was and am “impossibly naïve”?

    Read the column again: I did not predict that Israel would acknowledge the human rights of the Palestinians but merely maintained that they should do so.

    And of course I knew good and well that almost no Israelis would read that column, aside from my Israeli friend who was also a grad student in physics at Stanford and who did take it seriously (he is now, I am happy to say, a US citizen): My audience was Americans, fellow students at Stanford, who had not thought through the fact that Israel is an evil, criminal, genocidal regime.

    Now, of course, I did not suffer from the delusion that my one column would, by itself, change the views of a majority of Americans.

    It was just one small part of a much larger effort by decent people across the country and around the world who, for the last half century, have been trying to spread the truth about the genocidal Zionist regime.

    And we are finally succeeding. The case presented by South Africa against Israel is utterly damning. A majority of Americans — Republicans as well as Independents and Democrats — now want a cease-fire and an end to the genocide.

    So, again, how exactly was my column “impossibly naïve”?

    The genocidal Zionist regime is finally being exposed for what it is.

    We are winning at last: is that what you mean be “impossibly naïve”?

    And exactly how am I suffering from “democracy fatigue”? Was that an error of your spell-checker when you meant to type “totalitarianism fatigue”?

    Perhaps “democracy” means something different in your native language than in English.

    But, in English, “democracy” does not refer to trying to imprison people who tell the truth about government corruption (Trump, Assange, et al.), much less actually murdering someone like Jeffrey Epstein who possessed dirt on high members of the regime.

    Is that what “democracy” means in your country?

    My little buddy also wrote:

    Yes, I was wrong: you would never become a target as a hypothetical Chinese citizen. This forum would simply not exist!

    I asked if you had visited China. You did not reply.

    I have and, more importantly, I married into a Chinese immigrant family: my wife has a number of cousins who travel back and forth between China and the US and report on what life is like in China today.

    Your beliefs are wildly out of contact with reality.

    Does the Chinese government attempt to restrict freedom of speech on the Internet? Yep, just as the US government does: see the “Twitter files.” Do young Chinese know how to get around those government restrictions? Yep, better than most Americans.

    Does the Chinese government imprison journalists who attack the government? Sometimes: compare what is happening to Jimmy Lai versus what the US government is doing to Julian Assange. The Chinese were at least willing to let Lai leave the country: the US will not allow Asaange to seek refuge anywhere on earth.

    Are the Chinese committing genocide against the Uighurs at the level that the US and its client state are committing genocide against the Gazans?

    Not as far as I can tell: the Chinese seem to be trying to wipe out Uighur culture, but not by engaging in mass murder.

    So, how does the Chinese government compare to the US government?

    You are indeed “impossibly naïve” if you think there is all that much difference.

    I suppose there are two major differences: the Chinese government does not pretend to be a democracy — at least they have the grace not to lie about it.

    And, most critically, the Chinese do not initiate, encourage, fund, and prolong wars all across the planet as the US government is doing in Ukraine and Gaza.

    And that really does make a difference: the US government is today the primary threat to the survival of the human race.

    And if you cannot see that, you are indeed “impossibly naïve.”

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

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    , @Colin Wright
  369. @bjondo

    I prefer to think of my writing as stevia.

    1337

  370. @Colin Wright

    ‘Miller’ strikes me as one of those gentile names Jews are likely to adopt.

    That’s a very prescient call Colin, as you’ll soon discover.
    The link below is an example of the Jewish ‘Millers’ located in ONE country only* (Argentina).

    https://hebrewsurnames.com/MILLER

    The following items are some excerpts from that link above:

    [MORE]

    Miller Burial Records

    The following are Jewish burial records of Buenos Aires with the surname MILLER:

    Name

    MILLER ABRAHAM (1965)

    MILLER ABRAM (1955)

    MILLER ADELA GRABOIS (1956)

    MILLER AIDA SQUIBNIEFSKY (1953)

    MILLER ANA LERMAN (1974)

    MILLER ANA MARIA EUQUIN (1982)

    MILLER BERKO (1995)

    MILLER BERTA EPSTEIN DE (1964)

    MILLER BERTA ZELENER (1978)

    MILLER BERTA ZILETZKY (1978)

    MILLER BRAJNA NISZT (1974)

    MILLER CELESTE (1985)

    MILLER CHAJA BERENHOLC (1975)

    MILLER CHAWA SZEZAPOWICZ (1965)

    MILLER CLARA UMANSKY (1978)

    MILLER DAVID (1977)

    MILLER DAVID (1969)

    MILLER de BERGMAN SARA (2003)

    MILLER DE CHOIHED AIDA (1998)

    MILLER DE CZESLER SARA (1997)

    MILLER de HOJMAN ADELA (2002)

    MILLER de KLEIMAN REBECA (2002)

    MILLER DE SZTEIN LUBA (1996)

    MILLER ELENA PACKMAN (1974)

    MILLER ELIAS ABRAHAM (1981)

    MILLER ELISA KROTOSCHINER (1955)

    MILLER ENRIQUE LEON (1963)

    MILLER ESTHER DOSEBSKI (1968)

    MILLER FANNY KLOTZMAN (1972)

    MILLER GUILLERMO (1975)

    MILLER ISAAC (1986)

    MILLER ISAAC (1949)

    MILLER JACOBO (1982)

    MILLER JACOBO (1964)

    MILLER JACOBO (1948)

    MILLER JORGE SAMUEL (1950)

    MILLER JOSEFA COMELFELD (1979)

    MILLER JULIO (1976)

    MILLER LEA DLUTO (1977)

    MILLER LEON (1982)

    MILLER MALKA JELSKI (1956)

    MILLER MARCOS (1964)

    MILLER MILA DE (2000)

    MILLER MIRCIA ISONDEL DE (1942)

    MILLER MOISES BER (1966)

    MILLER RAFAEL (1978)

    MILLER RAFAEL MAURICIO (1994)

    MILLER RAUL (1949)

    MILLER ROSA CHILMANN (1969)

    MILLER ROSA NARCYZENFELD (1970)

    MILLER SAMUEL (1999)

    MILLER SAMUEL MARIO (1997)

    MILLER SARA IGUELNIK (1981)

    MILLER SAUL (1981)

    MILLER SAUL (1968)

    MILLER SIMON (1937)

    MILLER SOFIA (1967)

    MILLER SZYMISIO (1941)

    MILLER ZISSA ROSEN (1969)

    (*The vast majority of Argentine Jews are descended from immigrants who arrived from Europe. These Ashkenazic Jews migrated from small towns or shtetels of Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Germany, Romania or Ukraine, leaving behind most of their Jewish relatives.

    After two or three generations, those Jewish families lost track of their relatives, having been saved from the war, emigrated to other countries like USA, England or Australia).

    So there it is. At the turn of the 20th century Argentina was a wealthy nation, having one of the highest GDP per capitas in the world – hence the reason Jews migrated there in droves.
    After all, when it comes to Jewish migration, it’s all about ‘Follow the Money’.
    It is not a small coincidence that a ton of Jews magically showed up in Australia and South Africa soon after huge discoveries of gold in the 19th century.

    Of course, that Argentina of the early 20th century is no more, after one Socialist regime after another (staring with the Peronists) wrecked what would otherwise have been a very prosperous nation. Yet another reason why many got the eff out and relocated to the U.S and elsewhere.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  371. Ron Unz says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    ‘Miller’ strikes me as one of those gentile names Jews are likely to adopt.

    That’s a very prescient call Colin, as you’ll soon discover.
    The link below is an example of the Jewish ‘Millers’ located in ONE country only* (Argentina).

    https://hebrewsurnames.com/MILLER

    Sure, “Miller” is a reasonably popular Jewish surname. But the problem is that it’s also a reasonably popular Gentile surname.

    My impression is that the percentage of Jews named “Miller” in America is roughly comparable to the percentage of Gentiles named “Miller” (many of them ethnic Germans who’d Anglicized “Muller”).

    Since Jews are roughly 2% of America’s population, I’d guess that something like 95% of all Americans named “Miller” are Gentiles. So it’s unwise to treat “Miller” as a significant Jewish indicator unless there are other very strong factors.

    There are actually other seemingly Anglo-Saxon names that I think are somewhat more heavily Jewish, not merely obvious ones like “Lewis” (Anglicized from “Levy”), but also Gordon and Brody, derived from some of the major Eastern European cities that Jews departed from.

  372. @PhysicistDave

    Let’s leave this discussion at that. You are not convincing me, and I am not convincing you, so why waste words? Just one curiosity I have: do you have a working hypothesis for the cause or causes of the evils of the U.S.?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  373. @Colin Wright

    The Inquisition tried to eliminate Jewish influence through conversion. The adoption of an official religion and the forced conversion of outsiders is a very effective way of making the culture of a country (or even a whole block of countries) monolithic. Let that sink in: the very key figure of Inquisition (Torquemada) had a Jewish converso on his genealogical tree. If that isn’t proof enough of the effectiveness of this tactic, I don’t know what could be.
    There are some entertaining stories in that Catholic universe. There is a playwright in Brazil named Nélson Rodrigues. His plays have a place in the official Brazilian “canon” and Rodrigues is, as far as I know, a near unanimity as our greatest playwright of all times. But their approval by the establishment was not instantaneous. Initially he was criticized, basically because his plays are not only completely pornographic in nature, but also display all kinds of sexual perversions in the most grotesque manner imaginable.
    In real life, Rodrigues was a fanatic rightwing guy who supported the U.S.-sympathetic military regime. He also was a “traditionalist” Catholic who supported archbishop Lefebvre. Rodrigues’s father had been in the “yellow journalism” (tabloid-type) business; you know, emphasis on scandal, bloody crimes, etc. Incidentally, his son (Nélson’s brother), an illustrator, was murdered by someone whose private life was exposed on Rodrigues sr.’s newspaper.
    During the Brazilian dictatorship, Nélson Rodrigues’s son was imprisoned and tortured because, unlike his playwright father, he was a communist engaged in underground activities against the regime. His son’s ordeal somewhat softened Rodrigues’s position.
    The Rodrigues family were originally Jews who were forcefully converted to Catholicism.

  374. @Ron Unz

    My impression is that the percentage of Jews named “Miller” in America is roughly comparable to the percentage of Gentiles named “Miller” …
    … So it’s unwise to treat “Miller” as a significant Jewish indicator unless there are other very strong factors.

    Agreed.

    If I’d only just crossed paths with Dovid Miller, and knew nothing about him other than his surname, I wouldn’t be sticking my neck out to make such a brazen call.
    But the fact of the matter is I DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT JEWISH INDICATOR (or to be more specific, an indicator that he’s a malevolent tribal Jew), and that is:

    Dovid Miller’s STRIDENT DEFENCE of the preposterous official USG/NIST explanation for the collapse of the WTC buildings on 9/11.

    You of all people Ron, would be aware of the extreme lengths this fraud of a man went to, in attempting [dismally] to make a case for the indefensible ZOG concocted narrative.
    I mean, he could have said: ‘It’s sounds too outlandish to believe that the USG would do this to itself and kill fellow Americans, or knowingly stand aside and let a foreign entity perpetrate this on America’, and leave it at that.
    OR, fearing the repercussions to his family/possible implications for his retirement package etc, he could have just walked away from it without comment.

    But he DIDN’T.

    Instead he engaged in a KNEE JERK defence of a position that attempts to SALVAGE THE REPUTATION OF WORLD JEWRY.
    This is what Jews with an axe to grind INSTINCTIVELY do.
    Not you Ron. You’re objective. You know that a crime committed by a lone Jew or a particular cabal of Jews does not reflect on you or other innocent Jews.
    In the same way that the crimes of Dick Cheney and Tony Blair do not reflect on other goyim.

    But not so with Dovid Miller. He’s not like you Ron. Miller is s TRIBAL JEW.
    Just like Jack Rubinstein said when asked why he shot Lee Harvey Oswald, Dovid Miller defended the official USG/NIST narrative because he FEARED A POGROM OF THE JEWS.
    And because of that he followed his Talmudic indoctrination by LYING TO THE GOYIM ,and thus his conscience was unaffected.
    Because HE DID IT FOR THE TRIBE.

    As you’re aware Ron, Dovid Miller posted countless thousands of words (in one 9/11 related UR thread* alone), trying to DEFEND the official story.
    (*If any of you are interested, just ask and I will post a link to that particular thread. You can scroll through the comments posted by Dovid Miller in that thread and you’ll see yourself that this man was FOAMING AT THE MOUTH in his defence of the ZOG establishment on this issue).

    MORE THAN THAT, and assuming he actually is a physicist, he was willing to MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS (claiming the official explanation did not contravene a whole host of Newtonian Laws of Motion), and thus trash his professional integrity, in pursuit of solidarity with his ZOG benefactors.

    SUMMARY: I do not say the things I do based on a hunch. No one, and I do mean NO ONE [with a hard sciences background] makes a case for either the official lone gunman explanation for the JFK assassination OR tries to make a case for the official USG/NIST thesis for the collapse of the WTC buildings on 9/11, UNLESS THEY ARE WORKING IN CAHOOTS WITH ZOG.

    (BTW I get it that some gentiles also name their kids David, because of their fixation with the Jewish Old Testament.
    But, needless to say, among Jews the first name Dovid/David (as this Miller bloke has), is far more common. So, to have a Hebrew origin first and last name, is not helping his case).

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  375. Wild Man says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Look, …. I think when you look at the demographic situation (25% Jewish within faux-west corporatist globalist circles) vs. the world wide Jewish demographic weighting (100x overweighting) , or the American Jewish demographic weighting (10x over-weighting), … the unavoidable consideration is that Jews in general, are 10x to 100x closer to this dastardly obfuscating, lying faux-west globalist agenda, than goys are.

    I am a goy, Dave is a goy, most here are goys. What is an aware goy to think? How is is that so many goys are in fact so-aware of the JQ issues (yet still vastly in the minority still, within the west, amongst our goy-demographic, … yet still even then, vastly more numerous than all the Jews in the world), …. how is it possible for that level of goy awareness to emerge, without a similar Jewdom-awareness to emerge, that is 10x – 100x more powerful, awareness-wise (and perhaps 10x – 100x more powerful awareness-wise, even with respect to examining the earlier seeds of all this JQ duplicity, that went over the goys heads)?

    Cut the shit boys. Tell all you Jewish friends and colleagues to buck-up and get on the true-west bandwagon, or fuck-off forever (and maybe go to hell for good measure), …. the Gazan conflict discussion is your opportunity to do this, now.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  376. @Wild Man

    … the Gazan conflict discussion is your opportunity to do this, now.

    Yes it is, and I am doing that. Read my comments to that effect, mostly on Steve Sailer’s blog.

    I am more circumspect with Jewish friends. (The internet brings out the worst in me and everyone, so don’t expect me or anyone else to talk in meat space the way we write in cyberspace.) Anyhow, some of those friends agree with me and some don’t. It’s a mix, and that doesn’t surprise me. In fact, it tells me what I already knew, i.e. that the Jews I know are just like everybody else I know. And that proves my point.

    Yes, everyone else I have talked to about Gaza falls pretty much into the same categories as the Jews I know. (And let’s be clear: My samples are small, because I don’t go around with a bullhorn, and I am not a political creature, thank God.)

    I agree with your math, and I agree that a high percentage of Jews in my country are brainwashed with all the Jew garbage — and the Zionist garbage. I don’t know which is worse, Judaism or Zionism, but yes, I realize they overlap, okay? Both are bullshit. Really. Read what I wrote about Mormonism. It’s no different. Christianity too, and Islam. My “God,” religion probably has caused as much suffering as communism.

    Thank you for a good, clear comment. I have responded in haste, as I usually do, so forgive any faults, but feel free to point them out.

    Final thought: I totally agree and hope that this Gaza crime is something that will move the Overton Wiindow on Judaism and it’s influence.

    • Replies: @Wild Man
    , @Truth Vigilante
  377. Wild Man says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Thanks for the reply, and I largely agree, about how this works at the interpersonal level (both Jews and goys seem to be confused by the official globalist narratives). But my point is that the Jews should be about 10x – 100x less confused, because they are 10x – 100x more well-positioned, to see the various globalist lies, as lies. Yet Jewish personages (and Jewdom in the main) leads the way, in supporting said lies. It simply does not add-up, … that you (and I) don’t see thr social signals around regular Jews leading the way (by a factor of 10x – 100x), to undo the lies. As such … complicit. Too bad they won’t like that descriptor. But complicit, indeed it must be. How else to see it, actually?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  378. @Wild Man

    I understand, and I am hoping that there is a peaceful way to resolve this in meat space.

    • Agree: Wild Man
  379. @Buzz Mohawk

    ‘…But so what? I have known many Jewish people: colleagues, lovers, friends, roommates, classmates, surgeons, orthodontists… And do you know none of them ever presented me with any reason to see them as anything other than those very titles I just gave them?’

    We’re going in circles here. I’ve made essentially the same statement as this several times.

    The difficulty is the aggregate effect — as I’ve also pointed out on numerous occasions. And it’s not just ‘the bad Jews,’ as some would have it

    If only…it’s all of them. Jewish influence is simply grossly excessive, and overwhelmingly pushing down on one end of the scale.

    Look at the Biden administration. It’s essentially Jews riding high, wide, and handsome, when all is said and done. Like what you’re getting?

    This is what you’ll get. It’s absurd, but this is turning into a struggle between five million people bent on wrecking the country, and the remaining three hundred-odd million of us, who really could save it, if we would just realize what’s going on.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  380. @Ron Unz

    There are actually other seemingly Anglo-Saxon names that I think are somewhat more heavily Jewish, not merely obvious ones like “Lewis” (Anglicized from “Levy”), but also Gordon and Brody, derived from some of the major Eastern European cities that Jews departed from.

    City names in general are at least a yellow flag. At some point, the Prussian authorities forced all Jews to adopt a Christian surname — and a lot just took the name of the city they were in. Hence Woody Allen’s family name of ‘Konigsberg.’ Irving Berlin would be another.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  381. @bjondo

    ‘The Myth Of A ‘Judeo-Christian’ Tradition…’

    I see it in more secular terms.

    Basically. ‘Judeo-Christian’ seems to be a coinage dating from some point in the Twentieth Century. The intention seems to have been benign: to keep referring to ourselves as a ‘Christian’ society implicitly excluded all our new Jewish fellow citizens (there weren’t any Muslims). So, okay, we’ll say ‘Judeo-Christian.’ Now no one needs to feel left out. Senator Snort can gas about ‘Judeo-Christian values’ without stepping on anyone’s toes.

    Historically, it was indefensible — but it was a nice thought.

    But now the intent of the term has been reversed. Rather than a device to include people, it’s become a device to exclude people — specifically, Muslim people, who now become the other, the adherents of an obscure and sinister faith.

    …which is,of course, also nonsense, but it works. Us and the Jews together, against those nasty Muslims.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  382. @Colin Wright

    Look at the Biden administration. It’s essentially Jews riding high, wide, and handsome, when all is said and done. Like what you’re getting?

    Those are the kinds of leaders I referred to, not my gastroenterologist or the orthodontist who straightened my teeth fifty years ago.

    So many leaders suck, and not just Jewish ones. As I said, powerful people ruin everything for the rest of us. Stupid people vote for them and believe what they say. Let’s just include religious leaders, scholars and all of their followers in this, and not just Jewish ones. It’s garbage all around, and there have been too many suckers for the fake, Jewish bible and the fake, Islamist empire, and the fake, Catholic empire, and the fake, born again Christians…

    And on and on…

    Two world wars. Resulting borders and weakening of legitimate nations of peoples.

    Stupidity all around, making possible the kind of Leadership Judaism we now have in American government. It takes two to tango, or three, or four…

    What do you propose we do about it?

    What do you propose we do about human stupidity that has gone on for as long as there have been naked apes?

    I’m waiting, because I agree with you and every other complainant here!

  383. @PhysicistDave

    ‘No “Jewish Zionist racket.” Just a handful of thugs who decided to kick me out of academic physics. And who were in a position to do so since I was just finishing my doctorate.’

    I think this can be taken to help illustrate a point of mine; it’s not that Jews do anything others don’t; it’s that they have so much more power to do it.

    Back when I was a puppy, I was working as a courier and copy clerk for a small market research company; there were two gurus, and then all their various support staff. So one of the gurus hired his cousin or nephew or something to work alongside me.

    So fine. Well, this cousin was descended from the Europeans who left Algeria in 1962, and he started going on about how much better off the Algerians had been when they were ruled by the French, and I started arguing with him.

    If course, it didn’t dawn on me that if he was of Pied Noir stock, so was one of the gurus. I found myself out of a job.

    Well, so what? That’s life in the big city. It was just a minor episode in the Trials of Young Colin. Not of any lasting consequence that I could tell. Educational, if anything…

    But Jews? Well, now. They were able to fix you pretty good.

    Per se, they’re no worse than embittered French ex-colonials. They’re just a lot more likely to be in a position to seriously spike your drink — or, more generally, to make a mess of this country by inflicting their various predilections on the rest of us. For example, they obviously aren’t comfortable with an America dominated by white gentiles…and guess what?

    Now, Armenians might want us to exterminate the Turkish people, and Mormons quite likely wouldn’t mind if the Volstead Act was restored — but they can’t have their way.

    Jews can — and therein lies the problem.

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  384. @PhysicistDave

    ‘America is now a totalitarian country.’

    If you think about the logical meaning of ‘totalitarian,’ that’s something of an exaggeration.

    You really can join any nut group religion you like. No one is checking to make sure your bowling league is advancing the principles of Marxist-Bidenism. I can stick any bumper stickers on my car I please.

    …but in some respects, it’s worse than a totalitarian state. Totalitarian states are usually pretty clear about what you can and can’t say or do. Here, they have to try to entrap you. Like, take those pathetic shmucks who were ‘going to ‘kidnap the governess of Michigan. Of course they were going to do no such thing; it was a bunch of overgrown adolescents shooting off their mouths in (literally) the attic. Our secret clubhouse…

    Only the FBI needed trophies, and they got informants to egg the 30-something children into actually moving forward with their stupid plot, and — aha! — ‘caught’ them.

    …and presumably wrecked their lives.

    Now, back in the day, with a state that actually had totalitarian aspirations — even if they were never realized — they were more sensible about such things. If the Gestapo got wind of how you were shooting off your mouth in the local bierkeller, they would call you in for a talking to, and, satisfied that you were suitably terrified, let you get on with your life — minus anti-Hitler harangues, please.

    Repetition could get you a few months in Dachau, but you knew where you stood. No one was going to set you up when you played Cowboys and Indians.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  385. @Buzz Mohawk

    ‘What do you propose we do about human stupidity that has gone on for as long as there have been naked apes?’

    Basically, I propose barring Jews from positions and professions that allow them to exercise undue influence.

    That won’t bring about Utopia, but it will improve matters. Yes, we would have fought the Korean War. Yes, we would have fought in Viet Nam. No, there wouldn’t have been a war in Iraq. No, we wouldn’t have troops in Syria. War with Iran? Why?

    Black Lives Matter, Transsexuals, Open Borders..

    In general, if you look at all the wrong turns we’ve taken over the last sixty years — and particularly over the last ten — you’ll find three out of every four of the main movers are Jews, even though they make up only one out of every fifty Americans. It’s all really pretty obvious. You just have to accept it.

    Absent Jews, the internet would be twenty years behind where it is. Whatever we would have in lieu of Facebook would just be getting started.

    The horror. On the other hand, we’d probably have gotten about as far as agreeing blacks could use the same bathroom as white people, this country would have two hundred million people, Israel would never have come into existence, ‘transsexuals’ would be a coinage in some obscure science fiction novel, and maybe even Pat Buchanan et al would have been able to reverse off-shoring. Imagine unions that actually stood up for working people. A Democratic Party that did the same.

    So…it’s pretty clear Jews have had a bad effect, and preventing them from continuing to do so would be a very good idea, even if it is unpalatable.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  386. Wild Man says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Jews can — and therein lies the problem.”

    Yes, …. so the question remains, why can Jews have their way when others can’t? It is not an intractable question. It is a straightforward question. We should find our way to that answer, quite easily – no?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  387. @Wild Man

    ‘Yes, …. so the question remains, why can Jews have their way when others can’t? It is not an intractable question. It is a straightforward question. We should find our way to that answer, quite easily – no?’

    Well, they’re smarter, more energetic, more concerned with questions of political import — and they have reshaped the environment of this country into one that meets their strengths. Consider the nature and importance of our legal system — then and now. Trials, and legal questions, become incredibly protracted, convoluted, and obscure matters of legal pilpul — Jewish intellectual culture at it’s finest. I don’t think Oliver Wendell Holmes would have had much patience with it.

    I’m reminded of that Star Trek: The Next Generation episode where the Star Trek winds up in a future in which the Borg have prevailed. They circle the Earth. The atmosphere has been altered. The population? ‘Nine billion: all Borg.’

    Jews have not only come to dominate our system; they’ve reshaped it so that they win. Increasingly over the last seventy years, we’ve seen democracy superseded by the rule of the courts: Californians vote against Gay Marriage? Doesn’t matter how they vote; the courts decide otherwise — and by some convoluted sophistries that our (gentile) forefathers simply would have simply dismissed out of hand.

    All this shit just suits them. Jack likes being a lawyer; I’d rather retile a bathroom. In fact, I just bought a piece of land with a derelict cabin on it — and I’m having a great time! This is what us gentiles do. We make things, invent things, do things. Meantime, Jews go around undermining our society in every way they can think of. That may not be what they tell themselves they’re doing, but it is what they’re doing.

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  388. Better get your mind right.

    ‘”A self-survey conducted by the University of California, Berkeley, found that, during a search for faculty in the life sciences department, 76 percent of applicants were eliminated solely on the basis of their diversity statements.”‘

  389. @Truth Vigilante

    ‘…If I’d only just crossed paths with Dovid Miller, and knew nothing about him other than his surname, I wouldn’t be sticking my neck out to make such a brazen call.
    But the fact of the matter is I DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT JEWISH INDICATOR (or to be more specific, an indicator that he’s a malevolent tribal Jew), and that is…’

    You’re making a fool out of yourself with this.

    I read David Miller as your classic white male gentile hard science type. Intelligent, if a tad rigid and dogmatic. Equally to the point, he is very well-versed in physics, which neither you nor I are.

    …and if he was Jewish, I seriously doubt he’d lie about it.

  390. Wild Man says:
    @Colin Wright

    OK, … what you are saying is that when I first came across the schoolyard name for Cluster-B type shysters, as ‘You be Jewed’, as a young boy in the late 1960’s, …. that was a spot-on attribution.

    Look, …. at some point, the cheaters will be dealt with. The correct answer to my question (to my mind, anyways) – ‘why can Jews have their way when others can’t?’, … well, it is because they are cheaters, which apparently in the main, seem to lack some cognitive executive function capacity that would help inform said personages that other people have a perspective (that is worthy) too. Cluster-B-types do not deal in the currency of ‘objective’ perspectives, or ‘consensus’ perspectives, or birds-eye perspectives. Cluster-B types, congenitally, have a great deal of difficulty understanding that there are other perspectives, that are very worthy, that are different than their’s (they think everybody is trying to shit in the face of everybody else all the time, and so it is about who can take the biggest shit on the face of others, and if you are the type that can’t shit in that circumstance, because you are too nice, that makes you a massive loser then, therefore deserving to get some big diarrhea shit in the face, then). That’s about it.

    A big problem is that the western body politic, in the main, has not yet really figured out that this Jewdom/JQ/Israel thing is much more prone to Cluster-B type psycho-bitch behavior, that our usual western norms. I don’t think they will be too pleased when they finally get it. And then, the cheaters will be dealt with.

    We should not have JQ people (Ben Shapiro comes to mind) continually trying to shit in the face of everyone else, though. That is disgusting.

  391. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wrong writes:

    You’re making a fool out of yourself with this.

    You’re making an even bigger fool of yourself in trying to defend this liar Dovid Miller.
    CLEARLY you know nothing about what really occurred during the 9/11 False Flag.
    CLEARLY you did not read the thousands of words Miller wrote trying to defend the official bogus narrative for how the WTC buildings collapsed.

    Equally to the point, he is very well-versed in physics, which neither you nor I are.

    You know nothing about my academic background or grasp of physics – which is substantial. You should STFU until such time as you do.
    Importantly, if you had read what Dovid Miller had been saying in those 9/11 threads where he was posting disinfo, you would see that (assuming he actually believed what he wrote), that he does not even have a grasp of basic HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL Newtonian Laws of Motion.

    But Colin Wrong, lazy individual that you are, you did not read what he posted in those 9/11 threads, and thus are in no position to be lecturing others.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  392. @Buzz Mohawk

    Final thought: I totally agree and hope that this Gaza crime is something that will move the Overton Wiindow on Judaism and it’s influence.

    You’ll get no disagreements from me there. Of course, the Gaza conflict has just shifted the spotlight away from that other unresolved catastrophe known as the Ukraine proxy war.
    And that war is a composite of countless thousands of other crimes. Here is the latest, courtesy of Daniel McAdams of The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity:

    ‘The life of American citizen and journalist Gonzalo Lira ended on Friday, all alone in a cold Ukrainian dungeon. Freezing, he slowly suffocated to death with a collapsed lung and double pneumonia. His body was swollen with systemic edema from fluid-filed heart and lungs.
    He was left to slowly die from October when he developed pneumonia, until December when his captors finally admitted that he was sick, to this past Friday, January 12th (yesterday), when, with no medical treatment, his 55 year old body finally gave out.

    He had been held in gulag conditions, incommunicado, for eight months, for the “crime” of, according to the US client state, “justifying Russia’s armed aggression against Ukraine.”

    One call from anyone in the United States government to Ukraine demanding that an American held for exercising free speech be released would have saved Gonzalo’s life. The US government and specifically the Biden regime knew it could save American citizen Gonzalo but it decided that it was better for him to die than to have any challenge to its narrative’.

  393. @Colin Wright

    BTW, I forgot to address this other remark of yours that demonstrates what a naive simpleton you are:

    …and if he [Dovid Miller] was Jewish, I seriously doubt he’d lie about it.

    The Unz Review is choc-a-bloc full of IDF Unit 820 operatives/sayanim/ZOG apologists posing as gentiles. Two names that immediately come to mind are John’s Johnson and Patrick McNally (the latter’s real name is actually Mordechai Moshe Baruch Shlongstein, or something equivalent).

    They use Anglo-Celtic handles to give the impression that even ‘we goyim’ side with the ZOG position on all manner of issues. They do that to deflect attention away from the fact that they have a dog in this race and an axe to grind.

    That you are too stupid to work this out on your own Colin Wrong, speaks volumes about you.

  394. @Brás Cubas

    Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    Let’s leave this discussion at that. You are not convincing me, and I am not convincing you, so why waste words?

    Convincing the other person is not usually the purpose of public conversations like this.

    I think the most common reason is to lay out arguments for other people who are following the discussion.

    In my own case, my main purpose is quite often to probe the other person’s mind: I am interested in psychopathology, and the Web is a boundless field of examples of that!

    It seems to me, for example, that you have some need to deny the obvious facts about the current situation in the United States. I have spent my entire life in the US; I have also visited China and, more importantly, have, through my wife’s family, extensive connections to China. As I understand it, neither is true of you.

    Yet, we were comparing the situations in the US and China: prima facie, I know a lot more about this than you do and have a lot more reason to be concerned about it than you do.

    But you are for some reason determined to defend the current viciously totalitarian regime in the US that is trying to imprison the leading candidate for the US Presidency. On the face of it, that really is totalitarian.

    Your behavior is therefore… interesting, and I find it worthwhile to try to probe the underlying reasons for this interesting behavior.

    BC also wrote:

    Just one curiosity I have: do you have a working hypothesis for the cause or causes of the evils of the U.S.?

    Historical events are almost never mono-causal.

    I have written extensively about this in past comments: one main cause, which the ecologist-historian Peter Turchin has emphasized over the last few years, is what he calls the “over-production of elites.”

    In a nutshell, US students and their parents nowadays want the kids to get a college degree so that they do not have to physically work for a living — i.e., get their hands dirty dealing with the actual material world. However, there are very few productive jobs that fit that description — indeed, the development of computers and AI actually has the effect of decreasing the number of so-called “white-collar” jobs.

    The result is that an increasing number of college grads compete for a decreasing number of appropriate jobs. One solution is to create a host of non-productive jobs (e.g., DEI officers), but that tends to be a pretty obvious scam from the perspective of working-class people.

    Longer term, this is connected to the dramatic expansion of government during the last century: government jobs are inherently non-productive, and that too is resented by working people.

    And that in turn goes back to a basically flawed Constitutional system set up in 1787 and drastically altered as a result of the Civil War, a system that made possible the creation of a Leviathan government and a Hegemon that tries to rule the world.

    In a global historical sense, all of this is essentially just “regression to the mean.” America started out with an unusually small national government and an unusual amount of power left in the hands of the people.

    That was a historical anomaly. People who manage to get control of a government are, almost by definition, people who want power, and, once they possess the power of government, they tend to want to expand that power by expanding the power of the government. And since they are in control of the state, they are in a position to bring that about.

    The Founders of the American Republic were well aware of these basic historical dynamics: hence Franklin’s comment along the lines of “We have given you a republic — if you can keep it!”

    Jefferson assumed that maintaining American freedom would require a revolution every generation or so:

    What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? … The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

    From which I conclude that the only people who are realists about politics are anarchists like me.

    All of you who are not anarchists appear to me to be, to use your phrase again, “impossibly naïve” about the observed realities of political life.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  395. @Truth Vigilante

    Truth Vigilante wrote to Colin Wright:

    Importantly, if you had read what Dovid Miller had been saying in those 9/11 threads where he was posting disinfo, you would see that (assuming he actually believed what he wrote), that he does not even have a grasp of basic HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL Newtonian Laws of Motion.

    You can find my physics Ph.D. thesis from Stanford online.

    I graduated from Caltech, which is the most selective school (not just the most selective STEM school) in the United States, with a 4.0 in physics, in the top five percent of my graduating class and as the top student in the Division of Physics, Math, and Astronomy.

    I am currently writing a book on how to derive the key results in General Relativity using only first-year calculus: this involves extensive use of conservation of energy and momentum and other basic principles of mechanics.

    If you and I disagree about basic principles of physics, you really, truly think it is impossible that I am right and you are wrong?

    Really?

    I find you… intriguing.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Truth Vigilante
  396. If you hang around Japan long enough and you’re bound to hear the refrain that the Japanese have an inferiority complex (rettōkan) towards “Westerners” (ōbeijin).

    You’ll hear, for example, that Japanese feel a sense of akogare (adoration) towards them, wishing Japanese had longer legs, deeper noses, lighter and rounder eyes, paler skin, etc.

    You’ll see this reflected in Japan’s advertising strategies, beauty and whitening products, and cosmetic surgery.

    This can be quite ingratiating and disarming to the (white) foreigners being flattered, who have doubtless heard complementary complimentary refrains in Western media about how the short, humble, stoic Japanese are so shy, self-deprecating and appreciative.

  397. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to Buzz Mohawk:

    [Buzz] ‘What do you propose we do about human stupidity that has gone on for as long as there have been naked apes?’

    [Colin] Basically, I propose barring Jews from positions and professions that allow them to exercise undue influence.

    Frank Chodorov was once asked to what to do about Communists in government jobs. His answer: get rid of the government jobs!

    Surely, the same solution applies to overbearing, power-hungry Jews in “positions and professions that allow them to exercise undue influence.” Abolish all positions and professions which exercise power without accountability.

    Early in the twentieth century, Jews dominated in Hollywood, Tin-Pan Alley, and certain areas of retailing. But Sam Goldwyn, Irving Berlin, and Adam Gimbel did not damage their adopted country: rather the contrary, I think.

    But put anyone — Jew or Gentile — in a position of power without accountability and you are asking for corruption and tyranny.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  398. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I graduated from Caltech…with a 4.0 in physics, in the top five percent of my graduating class and as the top student in the Division of Physics, Math, and Astronomy.

    Very impressive indeed.

    It’s really outrageous that a couple of those Jewish activists in the Stanford Physics Department torpedoed your academic physics career.

    I do hope you’re reconsider passing along their names. Since it all happened more than four decades ago, I can’t imagine they could cause you any trouble, or even find out what you’d said in a comment on this website.

  399. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to Truth Vigilante:

    I read David Miller as your classic white male gentile hard science type. Intelligent, if a tad rigid and dogmatic.

    Hey, remember what Kipling said about us Anglo-Saxons:

    “The Saxon is not like us Normans. His manners are not so polite.
    But he never means anything serious till he talks about justice and right.”

    That’s me, all right: a descendant of the Roundheads, of the Revolutionaries of ’76. a radical Jeffersonian to the core from a long line of radical Jeffersonians.

    Fiat justitia, ruat caelum.

  400. @Ron Unz

    Ron Unz wrote to me:

    I do hope you’re reconsider passing along their names. Since it all happened more than four decades ago, I can’t imagine they could cause you any trouble, or even find out what you’d said in a comment on this website.

    Well… I actually think they would go after me. Part of what happened was that I stumbled upon scientific fraud: they have a strong incentive to want to keep that secret.

    I’d probably reveal their names if it were just me, but my wife is so worried about them that she has literally threatened to divorce me if I do so. California is a community-property state, and she does not want to take even a ten percent chance of losing everything we have.

    As I’ve related elsewhere, we have had extensive experience with the legal profession and the judicial system in the last eight years — e.g., when our daughter was assaulted at UCLA. We now have zero faith that the legal system now has anything to do with justice.

    I mean, the former President of the United States, a billionaire who is now the leading candidate for the Presidency, probably will be convicted simply for stating his belief, which many Americans share, that the 2020 election was stolen. Even if he wins, it will cost him millions in attorney’s fees.

    My wife does have a point.

    And since it is hard to see that much good could be accomplished by revealing their names now, I think I had better honor my wife’s request.

    I’m serious about saying this is now a totalitarian society. What has happened to us and our daughter, what is still happening to Donald Trump and Julian Assange… I really did not use to think this could happen in America.

    But it is happening now.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  401. Japan is not stable, it seems fragile. Even in the early 90s, because of “the world economic downturn”. Ditto Lehman Shock. Was refused a deal regarding South Korean content “because of ongoing issue with North Korean kidnappings 拉致問題” The mass gaijin cull of all the Eikawa, leading to teachers working for food. So much for stability!

    Furthermore, there was always something every few months to overturn the apple cart, be it an earthquake/nuke disaster, a local stabbing, a disgruntled Japanese colleague who wanted to vent their frustration out on the office gaijin- even trying to report the NJ with a processing work visa to the local Koban as an illegal, random harassment on the train etc etc. Or just rando weirdos stalking or making you feel you are, by virtual of being foreign, a stalker ie. causing “meiwaku” simply by your presence.

    The early Saturday morning knock on the door of the local Gaijin House from the Kempeitai, sorry I mean the local cops “checking who lives there”.

  402. @Buzz Mohawk

    Stupidity all around, making possible the kind of Leadership Judaism we now have in American government.
    What do you propose we do about it?

    There will always be uninformed and apathetic citizens and corrupt politicians/bureaucrats in any society..
    With that in mind, the ONLY solution is the Libertarian solution, as proposed by Dr Ron Paul in his 2012 Presidential campaign (38 sec video):

    In other words, entire government departments need to be put on the chopping block, and those that remain have to be radically defunded. Simply put, Bloated Big Government has to go.
    A government with limited financial wherewithal will, by definition, only be able to cause a limited amount of mischief.

    MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL we need to nationalise and then abolish that entity that allows ZOG to cause the malfeasance that it does. The fact of the matter is that to pull off crimes like the 9/11 False Flag, the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax and the Covid Psyop, to name just a few things orchestrated by Malevolent International Jewry, requires an obscene amount of moolah.

    Of course the funding for said crimes comes courtesy of their ownership/control of the Federal Reserve and the other western central banks. This ‘River of Riches’ enables them to print/digitally conjure scores of trillions that they can dole out to themselves and their Talmudic cronies.
    Dr Ron Paul has been saying for over five (5) decades that the Fed should first be audited, then abolished. He knew* from Day 1 what the root of all evil was.

    (*Of course Mohawk Man, you would not know about matters relating to the existence of the U.S Federal Reserve and the Vampire Squid’s control of the entirety of the western financial system, matters that have been discussed in great detail by myself and numerous other contributors in the UR commentariat.
    Nor would you know much about the substantive issues of our time, since I don’t recall seeing you in those UR threads dealing with the 9/11 False Flag, the Covid Psyop, the Ukraine proxy war, the demise of JFK/RFK/JFK Jr etc).

    I looked at your archival comment history and noticed that it’s almost entirely concentrated in the Steve Sailer threads.
    Yes UR readers, the same Steve Sailer whose threads are almost invariably focused on FLUFF.
    The same Steve Sailer that censors/moderated comments into oblivion/outright purges comments he deems will offend his ZOG sponsors.
    With a few exceptions, the vast majority of people that regularly post comments in Steve Sailer threads are MORONS and DUPES.
    By reading and commenting in Sailer threads they are too stupid to know that they are indirectly condoning Sailer’s tyranny, and thus contributing to the problem of interference with Free Speech.
    Yes, the ZOG controlled establishment (You Tube, Twitter – before Elon Musk) and various other venues subservient to ZOG, are controlling the narrative and preventing dissenters from expressing their much needed opinions.
    You fools that continue reading Steve Sailer threads and posting comments there are core constituents of ‘Apathetic America’, and are symptomatic of why your country is dumbed down.

    SUMMARY: Mohawk Man, what you and everyone else that previously participated in Steve Sailer threads should now do is to BOYCOTT them.
    When Sailer has demonstrated that he’ll no longer censor/excessively moderate comments and no longer prostrate himself to the ZOG establishment, only then should you consider returning.

    Until then Mohawk Man, get a life.
    Broaden your horizons, start reading UR threads authored by known truth tellers like Laurent Guyenot, Dr Kevin Barrett, Ron Unz, Dr Ron Paul and so forth.
    You might actually learn what is actually going on in this world – rather than remaining in the ‘Enclave of Imbecility’ (otherwise known as Steve Sailer’s world).

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  403. @PhysicistDave

    Physicist Dovid (aka Phy-Do) writes:

    You can find my physics Ph.D. thesis from Stanford online.

    I graduated from Caltech ….. [should’ve been a Nobel Laureate, National Medal of Science recipient … blah, blah …. ]

    Yes, yes we’ve heard it all before. Save it for someone who actually cares.
    The crux of the issue is not about academic qualifications, but about INTEGRITY.

    No doubt, in the case of former NIAID director Tony Fauci, I too could provide you with a laundry list of academic qualifications/titles (some real/some likely gifted to him for slavish prostration to ZOG).
    But said abbreviations after his name are worth diddly squat if the individual in question is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR – which Tony Fauci indisputably is (and Physicist Dovid’s track record suggests likewise).

    SUMMARY: Physicist Dovid’s views (the same views as the ZOG establishment on the collapse of the WTC buildings on 9/11), are 180 degrees diametrically opposed to the views of countless thousands of far more credentialled scientists/ academics and experts that comprise the organisation Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

    The latter have, as a collective, a minimum of ONE THOUSAND TIMES more wisdom/scientific expertise than our malevolent Jewish friend Dovid Miller.
    So, I ask all UR readers, who are you going to believe ?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  404. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    A lot of Hungarian/Slovak Jews took the name Pressburger, after the old name for Bratislava. Procedures to require Jews to adopt surnames were also underway in the Austrian Empire. At some point Franz Kafka’s ancestors adopted their name, probably from the Czech kavka for “jay”. There may have been a different fee for adopting Slavic surnames as opposed to German ones. German ones may have been more prestigious and hence more expensive but I need to research this.

  405. @Ron Unz

    Very impressive indeed.

    Your sarcasm is duly noted Ron.

    More and more of us are waking up to the fraudulent claims of Physicist Dovid.
    His boasts of:
    ‘I graduated ……with a 4.0 in physics, in the top five percent of my graduating class and as the top student in the Division …. ‘,

    kind of remind us of this other boastful liar many of you may be familiar with (watch the 1 min of the video below from 3:25-4:30):

  406. @PhysicistDave

    Your explanation is certainly original. I don’t recall having heard it from anyone else. I can’t really see much explanatory power in it.
    Your views are very strange. You want the State abolished in the U.S.A. but think China is a good country to live (just from having visited it, LOL). Go figure. I can’t take you seriously.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  407. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I am unaware of any “Judeo-Christian” concept being expressed before the 20th century. The traditional Christian view is that Christ is the Messiah but the Jews received to accept him.

    In the 20th century they could sometimes align against others, like Communists. As in this extract from Citizen Cohn (1992) where Roy Cohn meets Cardinal Francis Spellman.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/j3THuP2jpAM

    Despite the different religions, Cohn and Spellman had much in common. Both were ferociously anti-Communist and it would seem, closet homosexuals.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  408. Wielgus says:

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/#post-colonelcassad-8891231

    Russian Colonel Cassad website. A statue to Greta Thunberg at the University of Westminster in London has been removed. The website notes that the decision was taken after she spoke out in favour of the Palestinians.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  409. geokat62 says:

    It’s been awhile since we’ve seen an Unz article on the “safe and effective” injections.

    Since his last article, there has been mounting evidence that these shots have been anything but “safe and effective.”

    Telegram comment posted by Dr Roger Hodkinson:

    Why are so many young people dying?

    “There’s really only one major thing that happened in 2021, and that was the rollout of this untested vaccine,” says Dr. Kirk Milhoan.

    UK data shows massive spikes in excess cardiovascular deaths among 15 to 44-year-olds.

    2020: ⬆️13%
    2021: ⬆️ 30%
    2022: ⬆️ 44%

    “You shouldn’t have cardiovascular disease in 15 to 44-year-olds,” remarked Dr. Milhoan. “So, if this is now a spike, this is something we really have to look at.”

    Join 👉 https://t.me/RogerHodkinson

    https://t.me/RogerHodkinson/2155

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  410. Wielgus says:
    @Wielgus

    “Refused to accept him”. Typing too fast…

  411. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yes, I wouldn’t say “totalitarian” (a term I dislike) to describe the USA, Britain or similar societies. A figure in the UK who called on people to take personal oaths of allegiance to King Charles on his accession to the throne was suitably marginalised. You are “free” until you suddenly find you are not.

  412. @geokat62

    Good stuff Geokat.

    Meanwhile, for those among you that have been jabbed and/or have coerced their loved ones into taking the clot shots, and luckily suffered no ill effects to date, I suggest you take note of the following video as Russell Brand features Brett Weinstein (watch at least the first 6-7 mins):

    The caption below the video reads:

    As Brett Weinstein informs Tucker [Carlson] of the alarming number of deaths resulting from the Covid vaccine, Pfizer makes a $43 Billion bet that ‘turbo cancers’ are going to explode around the world.
    But why, and could the two possibly be connected?

    Excess All Cause Mortality is way up in all heavily vaxxed countries, and fast acting/aggressive ‘turbo cancers’ are showing up like never before.
    This matter can no longer be ignored.

    • Thanks: geokat62
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  413. @PhysicistDave

    …But put anyone — Jew or Gentile — in a position of power without accountability and you are asking for corruption and tyranny.

    I see this as merely your doctrinaire insistence on confessional blindness.

    Certainly bureaucratic and institutional power can be abused — usually is abused — to some extent.

    But the results aren’t invariably catastrophic. See the Prussian state. See British India. See Japan. See us, 1865-1925. I think it’s clear a great deal of good resulted along with the harm. Gauss, for example, was only discovered because the tyrannical state had started imposing universal education.

    So what changed? Well, no doubt many things. But one factor stands out — is definitely standing out right now.

    Jews got into the driver’s seat. And if you think you’re going to get them out without even admitting that’s the problem, you’re being foolish.

  414. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Frank Chodorov was once asked to what to do about Communists in government jobs. His answer: get rid of the government jobs!’

    The retort to that works whether the problem is Communists or Jews.

    If either has gotten hold of the government, you’re not getting rid of the government jobs.

    How would you do it, precisely? We won’t consider the various possibilities that will lead to you conferring with the FBI. The ballot? Who was declared President in 2020 again?

    Referendums? Oh yes — Californians voted, and they did not want Gay Marriage.

    Guess what? The Jews/Communists in the government aren’t going to let you take away their jobs. In fact, they’re not going to let you decide anything — in case you haven’t noticed.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  415. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…And we are finally succeeding. The case presented by South Africa against Israel is utterly damning…’

    Nae doot. However, I think you’re being unreasonably confident about what that implies for the actual ruling.

    We’ll see. I’m all for your optimism proving justified. Personally, I suspect Israel wouldn’t have agreed to appear before the court unless the fix was in.

    …and wouldn’t the court refusing to find Israel guilty be in harmony with the zeitgeist?

    There are still evil things, but we mysteriously find ourselves unable to fight them. Should I suggest why?

    But hey. I could be wrong. The court could rule as you appear to anticipate. That would be wonderful. Etc.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  416. @Truth Vigilante

    Don’t feed the trolls, they say, but thank you. I am honored that you have taken the time to review my comment history.

    [MORE]

    Now I am going to pour myself another glass of Champagne and take another bite of the wild-caught, Alaskan King (a.k.a. Chinook) salmon that I just grilled on a cedar plank.

    Seriously, that is really what I am doing right now, with my Hungarian, mathematician wife who made the marinade for the salmon.

    I am Mohawk Man! And I don’t trust you or anybody else. I am living my best life. Good luck to you in living yours. History moves on. Stupidity continues (and we all are stupid.)

    Whatever details you choose to argue with me about, the important ones are the same and we agree on them.

    What the fuck, BTW, are you doing that I am not, about all this crap?

  417. I think I’ll firmly rub Dave Miller’s et al collective snouts in this one.

    ‘House Republican leadership said it would push U.S. federal agencies to punish any employee who participates in a planned walk-out aimed at protesting the Biden administration’s approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    “Any government worker who walks off the job to protest U.S. support for our ally Israel is ignoring their responsibility and abusing the trust of taxpayers,” said House Speaker Mike Johnson, who added, “they deserve to be fired.”

    Federal workers across nearly two dozen agencies including the White House, the Pentagon and the State Department plan to walk off the job on Tuesday, as first reported by Al-Monitor.

    Johnson said he and House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer will “be working together to ensure that each federal agency initiates appropriate disciplinary proceedings” against the participants…’

    Who’s boss man again?

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @PhysicistDave
  418. @Buzz Mohawk

    ‘Until then Mohawk Man, get a life.’

    You seem to have complied with that part of the instructions, anyway.

    What does the cedar plank do, by the way? Your photo is inspiring.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  419. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…I’m serious about saying this is now a totalitarian society. What has happened to us and our daughter, what is still happening to Donald Trump and Julian Assange… I really did not use to think this could happen in America.’

    There you go. It’s pedantic to make an issue out it — but this is not totalitarianism. It’s represessive and corrupt — but not totalitarian. The like could have happened in Porfirio Diaz’s Mexico.

    A totalitarian state would have taken it into its head to get you to publically agree the treatment your daughter received was fit and proper — and speaking of daughters, why would marrying an Asian woman have been left up to you? The state would have decided on whether that was desirable or not.

    We’re plunging off the cliff into a kind of repressive lunacy — but it’s not totalitarian. ‘Totalitarian’ implies some sort of internally consistent plan, a coherent vision. Nope, no fear…we’re not headed there. Blood-soaked chaos, sure — but that’s a different matter.

    This is a tale told by an idiot, not National Socialism or Mao’s China.

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  420. @Ron Unz

    Hello, Mr. Unz.

    I’m sure you’ve heard the news story about the secret tunnels in NYC. What’s your opinion?

    I’ve heard some say that the tunnels were being used for child trafficking. I’ve heard others say that there was some of type of ritual abuse happening. What are your thoughts?

    I’ve also read that some are speculating that similar activities perhaps occurred on Jeffrey Epstein’s island, which had underground facilities and also had a bizarre occult-themed temple.

    In your article “American Pravda: Oddities of the Jewish Religion,” you discussed the issue of ritual sacrifices.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

    Jews sometimes kidnapped small Christian children in order to drain their blood for use in various magic rituals, especially in connection with the Purim religious holiday. One of my more shocking discoveries of the last dozen years is that there is a fairly strong likelihood that these seemingly impossible beliefs were actually true.

    Out of curiosity, do you think such activities still occur? Do you think it’s possible that’s what was happening in the tunnels beneath NYC and on Jeffrey Epstein’s occult island?

  421. @Colin Wright

    The cedar plank adds a smokey flavor.

    [MORE]

    Soak the plank in water for an hour or two, then put it on the grill over a medium-hot fire for a few minutes. When it starts producing a little bit of smokiness and scent, place your salmon steak on it, skin side down. Let the fish then cook for about 15 minutes, more or less.

    (Before grilling, let your cut of fish sit at room temperature for a while, to allow it to lose some of its refrigerator chill. It will cook better.)

    This time I smeared the top of the fish beforehand with a mixture of dijon mustard and honey with some ground black pepper and salt. You can try many other things too. It’s hard to ruin salmon, and it’s one of the most healthful things you can eat.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  422. @Brás Cubas

    Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    Your explanation is certainly original. I don’t recall having heard it from anyone else. I can’t really see much explanatory power in it.

    No, you do not see much explanatory power to it, because, after all, you are not very bright! It takes a certain minimum IQ to see “explanatory power”: not my fault you don’t have it.

    And your belief that it is original with me is just a sign that you do not read very widely: as I did say, the idea is Peter Turchin’s — he has published widely on this, and he is very well-known to anyone interested in historical dynamics.

    BC also wrote:

    You want the State abolished in the U.S.A. but think China is a good country to live (just from having visited it, LOL).

    Now, you are really just openly lying — I did not say that.

    I think that China has lots of problems. I think America has lots of problems. I think it is an open question which is worse.

    And I said that my main source of information about China is due not to having visited it but to having married into a Chinese immigrant family: as I did say, my wife has a number of cousins who go back and forth across the Pacific and report on conditions in China.

    It is wrong to lie.

    BC also wrote:

    Go figure. I can’t take you seriously.

    Well, you are clearly willfully ignorant of condition here in the US — so, why do you keep lying?

    There is a general consensus among Americans that we are in a lot of trouble. There is widespread fear that we are heading towards a second Civil War. Just a few weeks ago, I was talking to a friend who is a librarian and a liberal who expressed that fear. There is of course widespread discussion of the same issue among Americans on the Right, as you have seen on this very site. Americans know we are in a lot of trouble.

    So, why on earth do you, as an enemy alien, feel compelled to defend the ruling elite here in the United States? You expect us to take you seriously?

    • Disagree: Brás Cubas
  423. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    On a different topic, the ultra-PC New York Times recently published a very lengthy article by one of its top journalists pointing out that the effort by colleges to abolish use of the SAT and other standardized tests had been a total failure, leading some other colleges to reinstate the requirement:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/07/briefing/the-misguided-war-on-the-sat.html

    Here’s what happened at MIT:

    M.I.T. has become a case study in how to require standardized tests while prioritizing diversity, according to professors elsewhere who wish their own schools would follow its lead. During the pandemic, M.I.T. suspended its test requirement for two years. But after officials there studied the previous 15 years of admissions records, they found that students who had been accepted despite lower test scores were more likely to struggle or drop out.

    Schmill, the admissions dean, emphasizes that the scores are not the main factor that the college now uses. Still, he and his colleagues find the scores useful in identifying promising applicants who come from less advantaged high schools and have scores high enough to suggest they would succeed at M.I.T.

    Without test scores, Schmill explained, admissions officers were left with two unappealing options. They would have to guess which students were likely to do well at M.I.T. — and almost certainly guess wrong sometimes, rejecting qualified applicants while admitting weaker ones. Or M.I.T. would need to reject more students from less advantaged high schools and admit more from the private schools and advantaged public schools that have a strong record of producing well-qualified students.

    That’s why I think the crucial issue at Caltech is whether or not the faculty have been forced to water down their courses. If not, within another year or two, they’ll surely have to return to the use of standardized tests.

    Since you’d mentioned that an old friend of your wife is currently on the faculty and dismayed by the new admissions system, I’d be very interested in hearing whether the actual coursework is being heavily watered down.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  424. @Truth Vigilante

    My little buddy Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    Yes, yes we’ve heard it all before. Save it for someone who actually cares.
    The crux of the issue is not about academic qualifications, but about INTEGRITY.

    You keep impugning my “INTEGRITY,” but your only basis for doing so is that I do not agree with you on a subject about which I have enormously more expertise than you do.

    Do you think that every single human being who disagrees with you on any topic is lacking in “INTEGRITY” simply because he disagrees with you?

    I love a good ad hominem attack as much as the next guy, but does it ever occur to you that just maybe you are being a bit silly?

    You keep claiming that the conventional explanation for the collapse of the Twin Towers obviously violates certain very basic principles of physics, principles such as conservation of momentum, that are the mother’s milk for all of us physicists. We imbibe all of this from high school on through the rest of our lives.

    If you were right… well, there are thousands of professors of physics across the country, ten thousand, more or less. If you were correct, don’t you think that a lot of those professors would have recognized from the get-go what you think is so obvious, that the conventional explanation for the Twin Towers’ collapse obviously violates basic principles of physics?

    Can you point to a dozen tenured professors of physics at serious research institutions who have claimed that the conventional explanation for the Twin Towers’ collapse obviously violates basic principles of physics?

    A half dozen?

    Do you think that all of us physicists have somehow been bought off?

    Let me make clear: I am intentionally, consciously, and explicitly making an “argument from authority” here.

    Because an “argument from authority” is indeed valid if the authority in question is a real authority.

    I know that you suffer from the so-called “Web psychosis” that believes that all arguments from authority are fallacies. That is obvious nonsense.

    If you have a severe abdominal pain and rush to the ER and the ER doc tells you that you have appendicitis, you are not going to start shouting at her that she is engaged in the “argument from authority” fallacy.

    You are going to be glad that you went to the ER!

    You can huff and puff all you want about calling me “Dovid” instead of “David” and all the rest.

    But, on the face of it, the authorities with regard to what the basic principles of physics assert are tenured professors of physics at serious research institutions.

    And you cannot point to a dozen who agree with you, now can you?

    Yes, yes, I know: Steven Jones of BYU. Whose reputation among the rest of us physicists is close to zero because of the cold fusion nonsense. Not exactly a serious research institution. And BYU basically kicked him out because of his crack-pot views.

    But, still, I’ll give you that one. One.

    Now, eleven more?

    And, yes, yes, I know: I am Phy-Do and a secret Agent of ZOG and all the rest.

    But still.. the actual physical world is out there, independent of all your cute little insults.

    Your friendly, neighborhood Agent of ZOG, having lots of fun at your expense, and incessantly making valid “arguments from authority,”

    David “Dovid” Miller in Sacramento (Ph.D., physics, Stanford)

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  425. @Truth Vigilante

    ‘…This matter can no longer be ignored.’

    It can be ignored if you never got vaccinated.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  426. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…So, why on earth do you, as an enemy alien, feel compelled to defend the ruling elite here in the United States? You expect us to take you seriously?’

    The ruling elite here does have cruise missiles. Better safe than sorry.

  427. Lol. Note the source and the author.

    ‘What Makes Nikki Haley Tougher Than the Rest’
    David Brooks, New York Times
    ‘She’s seen as a descendant of the Republican establishment, but she’s actually the kind of bruiser who’s in line with the current G.O.P. vibe…’

    A ‘bruiser,’ is she? But you’re on our side, David. If you say so…

  428. @Ron Unz

    Ron Unz wrote to me:

    That’s why I think the crucial issue at Caltech is whether or not the faculty have been forced to water down their courses. If not, within another year or two, they’ll surely have to return to the use of standardized tests.

    Since you’d mentioned that an old friend of your wife is currently on the faculty and dismayed by the new admissions system, I’d be very interested in hearing whether the actual coursework is being heavily watered down.

    Well, my wife’s old friend is unhappy about what he views as financial corruption at the Institute. I don’t recall his expressing views on the curriculum.

    When we visited the Institute college-shopping for our kids seven years ago, the classes seemed easier to us than when we were there. And, as I recall, they no longer use the Feynman Lectures for frosh physics, which were the core of the rigor of frosh physics (though I will admit that the Feynman Lectures are probably better used for supplementary reading than as the primary textbook — I actually prefer the classic Berkeley Physics series myself). But perhaps as long-seasoned professionals it just seems easier to us than it seemed fifty years ago when we were callow students.

    Also, the students we met did not impress us: ‘Techers have always been eccentric, but the students we met seemed intensely focused on proving how weird they were. ‘Techers are innately weird enough without having to accentuate it!

    But again maybe we are just jaded old fogies.

    Sorry I cannot be more definitive, but to give more than anecdotal data would take a lot of work.

    By the way, you did not link to any of my comments, and I almost missed that your comment was directed to me. which it seems it was.

    I do of course think that the comments in the NYT article make sense.

    Dave

  429. bjondo says:

    Of what benefit is MIT (similars) for the world?

    AI and robots for unemployment and spying; better weapons for killing.

    Gaggle of genius, lunatic professors wasting time and money and life.

    Drag ’em all to the South to control kudzu with scythes and sickles.

    5ds

  430. @PhysicistDave

    Physicist Dovid (aka Phy-Do) writes:

    You keep impugning my “INTEGRITY,” but your only basis for doing so is that I do not agree with you on a subject about which I have enormously more expertise than you do.

    Incorrect.

    I do this on the basis of the collective expertise of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 TRUTH, an entity that possesses [a minimum of] ONE THOUSAND TIMES MORE BRAIN POWER* than you do.

    (*Not to mention infinitely more integrity).

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    , @Odyssey
  431. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    ‘Totalitarian’ implies some sort of internally consistent plan, a coherent vision.

    Well… one of the reasons I am engaged in this particular discussion is that I am trying — without success, it seems! — to dispel the cartoonish views of totalitarians societies held by most Americans.

    Are you aware that the word “totalitarian” was given currency by Mussolini, who applied it with pride to his own Fascist Italy?

    So that the paradigm case of totalitarianism should be Fascist Italy?

    Colin also wrote:

    and speaking of daughters, why would marrying an Asian woman have been left up to you? The state would have decided on whether that was desirable or not.

    Ummm… did the Soviets tell people whom they could marry? Did the Fascists in Italy?

    I assume you are alluding to the Nazi attempts to preserve “racial purity.” But most totalitarians have not been Nazis.

    As it happens, being a physicist, I was aware that Enrico Fermi married a Jewish girl, Laura Capon, in the middle of the the Fascist era, in 1928 to be precise. No problem at all for a decade, until Mussolini decided he had to start following Hitler’s lead with regard to the Jews.

    Again, Americans have this cartoonish view of what actual totalitarian societies were and are like, as you said, “some sort of internally consistent plan, a coherent vision. ” No, they just were not like that in fact.

    Read Martin Mayer’s book They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 reporting on interviews by the Jewish American author with actual Germans as to what life under Nazism was actually like. To most Germans, if you were not Jewish of course, life seemed normal.

    Or if you want a novelized version of life under Communism, read Ayn Rand’s We the Living: Rand once remarked that the distinctive emotion of life under a totalitarian system is not terror but dreariness. To use my own metaphor, it is as if you are constantly being tied up in duct tape.

    Or for a non-fiction description of life under the Soviets, read Hedrick Smith’s The Russians.

    I know that most Americans think of totalitarianism as being in constant fear of the midnight knock on the door, as at the time of the Moscow Purge Trials. But even in that time period, most Soviet citizens died of old age, not from the Stalinist Terror (and, at least the Stalinist Terror killed quite a few Old Bolsheviks who certainly deserved to die!).

    But that simply was not life for most people during most of the period of Fascist Italy — the paradigm case — or indeed Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany.

    The Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises wrote a book entitled Planned Chaos critiquing the idea of central planning. That is a more accurate description of the reality of totalitarian societies than your description of “internally consistent plan, a coherent vision.” The rulers of these societies are always evil, incompetent thugs who do not really know what they are doing.

    Sure, they try to keep their eyes on everything, but they just can’t. Yes, the KGB and the East German Stasi (and the NSA and the FBI in this country) had voluminous files, but they did not know how to process all the data they tried to collect: they were, and in the case of the US are, incompetent thuggish morons. And if you look into detail as to how the Soviets “planned” their economy… well, they really didn’t. Managers lied about output, managers tried to make off-the-books deals to get the resources they actually needed, and so on. It was indeed “planned chaos”: Gosplan was a joke.

    The entire Soviet economy was a “Potemkin village.”

    Totalitarian systems were all bizarrely incoherent, corrupt. incompetent fantasylands, “repressive lunacy” indeed, to use the phrase you correctly claim describes totalitarian America today.

    Yes: that is indeed what we have in the USA today and that is what also occurred in other totalitarian societies.

    With perhaps a couple major differences. Do you know of any case in which the Nazis or the Fascists or the Soviets or the Maoists or even the Khmer Rouge sexually mutilated children who were confused about their “gender”? Do you know of any of those regimes who had the arrogance to attempt to extradite a journalist like Julian Assange who published information in a foreign country that embarrassed their regime?

    Yes, I know: you think you are free, just as the Germans interviewed by Milton Mayer thought they were free.

    But you live in a totalitarian society, just as surely as they did.

    The totalitarian rulers in this society are attempting to put a seventy-seven year old man, the leading political figure in the country, in jail for the rest of his life, where he will almost certainly die, simply because he has stated his (true) belief that the 2020 election was stolen. And of course they simply killed Jeffrey Epstein after he became an embarrassment.

    Did Mussolini do anything more totalitarian than that?

    And, yes, yes, I know I am indeed a very, very bad person for pointing all this out, and no sensible person would possibly say such a thing, and no right-thinking person would ever invite me to their cocktail party, and, as our friend Brás Cubas insists, I am, no doubt, “impossibly naïve.”

    Nonetheless, eppur si muove.

  432. @Truth Vigilante

    My little buddy Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    [Dave] You keep impugning my “INTEGRITY,” but your only basis for doing so is that I do not agree with you on a subject about which I have enormously more expertise than you do.

    [The little fella] Incorrect.

    I do this on the basis of the collective expertise of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 TRUTH, an entity that possesses [a minimum of] ONE THOUSAND TIMES MORE BRAIN POWER* than you do.

    Yeah, yeah, of course.

    Because of course all of those architects understand more about the basic principles of physics than the ten thousand professors of physics across this country.

    Okay, 9,999 physics profs, because goofy Steve Jones, who was kicked out of BYU (!), is on your side.

    I mean: why would we care about what actual physicists have to say about the basic principles of physics, right?

    Do you realize how silly this is, little guy?

    Your friendly neighborhood Valiant Agent of ZOG,

    An actual physicist, Dave Miller in Sacramento
    ——-
    P.S. If anyone wonders why I am not going into the relevant issues of physics, I tried on another thread with this thug. He responded not only with the vituperation you see here but with actual direct threats that I would be unlawfully imprisoned for trying to explain science to him.

    So, I gave up.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  433. Suzuki Nobuyuki, a candiate for Tokyo in the Upper House for the far-right Restoration Party Shinpuu (New Winds, not to be (easily) confused with Ishihara’s Restoration party), calls for the end of relations with Korea, and an end to immigration (imin). Oh, and he also wants Japan to rearm itself with nuclear weapons (kakubusou) — now that’s even fodder for Japan’s increasingly isolationist future.

    It has the typical tropes about a strong country with sufficient autonomy to defend itself from invasion, defending Japan’s honor by weeding out “masochistic” (jigyaku) history from education and reestablishing the family unit along traditional lines (no doubt meaning bringing back the Ie Seido), returning Japan to its status as the “world’s safest country” by bringing back the “world’s safest energy source,” nuclear power, and kicking out immigrants so they don’t take jobs away from Japanese (even though NJ were brought in as official policy during Japan’s labor shortage to do the dirty jobs Japanese don’t want in the 3K sector; oh, never mind — facts don’t matter to these people). Nasty ideology seeing the light of day these days in Japan. Are there still people not becoming alarmed yet? The stuff coming out of the mainstream involving constitutional revisions is even scarier.

  434. Odyssey says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Do you remember the story about the (successful) landing on the moon and why it was not repeated in the previous more than half a century? Apparently, at that time it was not customary for engineers to document everything they did, so the knowledge remained in their heads, but over time many of them died. That explanation was parroted for days. So now it is difficult to replicate that flight in an aluminium bucket without a single microprocessor and with an artificial intelligence smaller than a kitchen calculator.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  435. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘Frank Chodorov was once asked to what to do about Communists in government jobs. His answer: get rid of the government jobs!’

    [Colin] The retort to that works whether the problem is Communists or Jews.

    If either has gotten hold of the government, you’re not getting rid of the government jobs.

    How would you do it, precisely? We won’t consider the various possibilities that will lead to you conferring with the FBI. The ballot? Who was declared President in 2020 again?

    Well, one of the countless advantages of being a philosophical anarchist, as I am (I do recommend it — it is calming for the soul), is that I do not have to have a false faith in elections!

    How would I do it?

    I wouldn’t: I do not suffer from the delusion that I can save the human race from itself.

    As Thoreau said:

    As for adopting the ways which the State has provided for remedying the evil, I know not of such ways. They take too much time, and a man’s life will be gone. I have other affairs to attend to. I came into this world, not chiefly to make this a good place to live in, but to live in it, be it good or bad.

    As I said, being a philosophical anarchist like me and Henry David is calming for the soul.

    Like Thoreau, I hope that sometimes I can do a little bit of good by simply telling the truth: he pointed out that the Mexican War was evil; I point out that the totalitarian system under which we now live is evil.

    Will anything end this evil?

    Not easily, I fear.

    But it will end.

    Perhaps the system will come crashing down on its own: our financial and monetary system is a Ponzi scheme; our young people do not want to reproduce; our economy is a Potemkin village — we had to get simple medical supplies from China during the pandemic.

    Or perhaps the Coalition for Humanity will send the US carrier fleet to the bottom of the abyss. Or maybe the human race will find it necessary to nuke Des Monies and Indianapolis to bring the Hegemon to its senses.

    Or maybe there will be a Second Civil War or a Second American Revolution.

    Something will happen to end this: as Herb Stein said, whatever cannot go on forever, won’t.

    Do I welcome any of the eventualities I just mentioned. Nope — it’s going to be pretty rough.

    I would prefer a “soft landing” in which we use the democratic process to deal with the disasters we are facing.

    Do I think we will achieve such a soft landing? It is possible, but the path is very, very narrow. I doubt we will.

    In any case, I am not God: it is not my job to save Americans from themselves.

    I can only try to tell the truth and hope for the best. And I do remember what happened to Cassandra!

    You have a better suggestion?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  436. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘…And we are finally succeeding. The case presented by South Africa against Israel is utterly damning…’

    [Colin] Nae doot. However, I think you’re being unreasonably confident about what that implies for the actual ruling.

    Oh, I think the World Court will rule for Israel.

    See here for the heroic Norm Finkelstein’s analysis on Katie Halper’s show of why the fix is probably in.

    That’s not what I meant by winning.

    I was just replying to Brás Cubas claim about my column from forty-five years ago:

    That article — and the remainder of this comment I’m now replying to — suggests you are impossibly naïve. And you are an extreme manifestation of a real phenomenon: democracy fatigue.

    Unlike our friend Brás Cubas, as an anarchist I have no faith in governments or governmental entities like the World Court. I do not need such faith to get on with my life. As I keep saying, being a philosophical anarchist is calming for the soul.

    By winning, I simply meant that the Overton Window has shifted since I wrote that column in 1979. Brás Cubas seems to think I was and am “impossibly naïve” because, way back in 1979, I described what I thought the Zionists should do, not what I thought they would do.

    Some people here are hung up on the idea that any expressed opinion must be a prediction.

    They are mistaken.

    We are winning in the sense that most Americans now want a cease-fire in Gaza, an overwhelming majority of young people are turning against the Zionists, and quite a few American Jews are finding the courage to come out against Zionist genocide.

    Will that stop Bibi from engaging in mass murder? Nope.

    But over the long run, this is the beginning of the end, the very beginning of the end, for the Zionist criminal enterprise.

    The Western barbarians conquered Jerusalem in 1099. In 1187, the civilized forces under Saladin retook the Holy City. It took eighty-eight years to expel the European invaders.

    The Zionists seized West Jerusalem in 1948; East Jerusalem in 1967.

    So, if the same timeline were to hold, the Zionists would be expelled in either 2036 or 2055.

    Hypotheses non fingo.

    Prediction is difficult, especially of the future.

    But it is reasonable to hope that by the end of this century, Zionism will just be a memory of a past evil, like Communism, Fascism, and Nazism.

    History, alas, takes time.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
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  437. @Buzz Mohawk

    I am Mohawk Man! ….. I am living my best life.

    Everyone needs some indulgences, and we should reward ourselves for the hard work we’ve put in over the years. But I get the impression that yours is one of 24/7 hedonism – with little regard for the misery and despair your country (I assume you’re American?), has brought to the world.
    BTW, I’m wary of champagne drinking blokes – very effeminate, don’t you think ?

    You also ask:

    What the fuck, BTW, are you doing that I am not, about all this crap?

    I have been involved in the BDS movement over the years, attended several pro-Palestinian/ anti-vaxx/Free Assange/Ukraine proxy war demonstrations (against my government’s involvement with/funding of the Judeo-Ukrainian regime).
    Many say the demonstrations achieve nothing and that the establishment laughs them off.
    This is not true. Large gatherings of disgruntled citizenry scare the bejeezus out of the ruling elite.
    For every protester that shows up at any particular demonstration, the government can extrapolate that perhaps an order of magnitude more are equally upset with the government edicts, but didn’t show up on the day for a variety of reasons/other commitments.

    Case in Point: I live in NSW (Australia’s most populated state). Our state Premier (equivalent of a Governor in the U.S), had dished out a heavy handed Covid lockdown.
    A critical threshold of us made life hell for them. Soon thereafter that Premier was thrown out, and the Deputy Premier was chucked out too on corruption charges.

    Immediately thereafter, the new Premier removed ALL curfews, ended the lockdown, removed mask mandates etc (and NO Covid restrictions of any kind were ever reinstated since then).
    Coincidence ? I think not.

    As well as what I wrote above, I have been a financial contributor to various truthtellers/organisations around the world that are at the forefront of exposing ZOG malfeasance. I’m hardly rolling in dough, but have enough wherewithal to make contributions that collectively, have been significant.
    Importantly, during the Covid Psyop I never wore a face mask for even one second, despite significant penalties for not doing so in my locale (eg: shopping malls, public transport etc), all of which I patronised as before, without fear of the repercussions – despite getting into numerous confrontations with busy body Covid ‘do-gooders’ and self appointed snitches.

    Bottom Line: If we all did as I (and numerous other Aussies) did, ie: not wear a face mask, go about our business as before, not observing Socialist distancing, not observing curfews and other Covid tyranny, (and obviously refusing to take the experimental mRNA gene therapies that masquerade as vaccines – which have so far KILLED millions around the world – 675,000 murdered in the U.S alone according to Steve Kirsch/Dr Peter McCullough), the Covid Psyop would have been done and dusted withing a few weeks.

    In fact, we didn’t ALL have to do it. If only a critical threshold of us (say around 10% of the population had refused to abide with the Covid tyranny), the ZOG affiliated ruling elite would’ve backed down.
    They can’t arrest all of us. People power makes a difference.

    Meanwhile Mohawk Man, my guess is that you’re a gutless VAXXED-TO-THE-MAX automaton that did exactly as your wise overlords in gubmint dictated.
    As long you profit from the system and your stock/real estate portfolio is ticking up in value, you’ll never defy your Talmudic masters.
    Well, that’s not a life well lived. That’s a life spent grovelling to the miscreant small hats.
    My guess is that you’ve never had the courage to do anything in your whole life that contributes to the demise of ZOG.
    Why would you ? Your life is one of selfishness – to hell with the suffering that abounds all around you.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  438. @PhysicistDave

    Physicist Dovid writes:

    Because of course all of those architects understand more about the basic principles of physics than the ten thousand professors of physics across this country.

    The malevolent Jew Dovid only focuses on the ‘Architects’ within the AE911Truth organisation, which are only a small subset of the hard science credentialled signatories of that entity.
    He does this on purpose, to misrepresent. Because that’s all you do Dovid.

    So, once again for the dummies. Other than the over 3500 Architects and Engineers that form the nucleus of the AE911Truth organisation, there are around 15,000 – 20,000 other individuals with Hard Sciences credentials.
    For example: PHYSICISTS, mathematicians, chemists, metallurgists, controlled demolition experts, Phd’s, Emeritus Professors and so forth.

    Of these well credentialled individuals, there would likely be thousands that INDIVIDUALLY have far more expertise/higher academic qualifications, to give an opinion on the collapse of the WTC buildings on the day of 9/11, than yourself.

    Meanwhile, you speak of this ‘phantom collective of ten thousand professors of physics’ that are siding with you on this issue.
    FACT: NO SUCH COLLECTIVE EXISTS.

    These ten thousands professors of physics are just SHUTTING THE FUCK UP and not saying anything abut the 9/11 False Flag. They know full well that the official narrative is bogus.
    But they also know that ZOG controls academia in the western world. And to speak the truth about 9/11, just as it is for a history professor to expose the Holohoax, this would entail termination of their careers and tenured professorships.

    You need only ask the likes of Dr Kevin Barrett, Dr Nick Kollerstrom, Norman Finkelstein and observe what ZOG did to them as proof of what I say.
    There are very few Phd’s and professors that are coming out publicly and risking their reputation to confirm the official narrative on 9/11.
    That said, ZOG has a ton of financial wherewithal, so there will always be the likes of you Dovid. ie: conscience -free opportunists that will SAY AND DO ANYTHING for a buck.
    That’s why you’re assigned here in the UR. Your Talmudic controllers have instructed you to peddle the official asinine conspiracy theory.

    Meanwhile, let’s single out one of those highly credentialled individuals that I speak of, that is neither an architect or an engineer, but is acknowledged by her peers as one of the greatest scientists of the 20th century. That person is Lynn Margulis Phd (watch from 2:00 -10:00 in the video below):

    This brave Jewish woman was the National Medal of Science recipient. ie: the most prestigious award given to scientists in the U.S – the American equivalent of the Nobel Prize.
    You Dovid Miller are NON-ENTITY in comparison to this woman.
    LISTEN CAREFULLY to what Margulis says about the official USG/NIST hypothesis regarding the collapse of the WTC buildings on 9/11.

    Anyway, that video was made in late 2010 or early 2011 from recollection.
    Lynn Margulis was pretty healthy for her age, but was dead not that many months after that film was shot. (Just like Nobel Laureate Kary Mullis conveniently died a few months before the Covid Psyop began – because he would’ve exposed it for the fraud that it was).

    Bottom Line: ZOG has a lot riding on 9/11, just as it did in relation to the Covid Psyop.
    Any high profile scientist that dares to tell the truth about these matters will not be long for this world.
    Of course, you have nothing to worry about Dovid Miller. You’re a lying hound that is peddling ZOG’s asinine theories. For that you are being amply remunerated.
    You are one good little sayan.

  439. Wild Man says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I had several (3) different structural engineers of 3 different firms contracted for various projects I was managing, for my downtown commercial real estate gig, at the time of 9/11. I quizzed all of them. They were all reticent to weigh-in one way or the other (all realizing this was a political hot potato that was very bad to weigh-in on, if one liked their career, as a structural engineer). The corporation I worked for specialized in big, tall, downtown office buildings with retail podiums. There was no insurance premium controversy, that arose, after the weirdness of building 7 collapse, you would think, would have the insurers hot and bothered (because in my experience at that time, it otherwise took very little for them to get hot and bothered), that is, if the believed the official 9/11 narrative.

    Money talks. See what the money says.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  440. @PhysicistDave

    I think that China has lots of problems. I think America has lots of problems. I think it is an open question which is worse.

    So, you are an anarcho-capitalist BUT cannot decide who is worse off between the U.S.A. where libertarians like Murray Rothbard thrived, where cowboys tote guns on the streets, freely denying the Holocaust on the internet, scorning the vaccinated, where mythical self-made-men like the Koch family throw their millions around promoting the “minimum state”, etc, etc, and China, where people must behave or lose social credits, where billionaires must behave or get kidnapped, where censorship controls the media, and denying the Jewish Holocaust is a crime, where supreme ruler Xi Jin-Ping enjoys a perpetual term in power, where the economy is centrally planned to a considerable degree, and who still pays tribute to the glorious Communist revolution and its supreme leader, Mao Tse-Tung?
    Can I be faulted if I think that you are a, say, peculiar kind of anarcho-capitalist?

  441. Wild Man says:

    Pathetic:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/epic-texas-police-patriots-lady-cowboy-hat-show/

    Gateway Pundit stinks like Jewish shit. I really don’t know how the commotion started, … I’m just going by the GP offering, as they contextualize it here. It looks like that GP is now supporting violence upon protesters as coordinated by way of dummies that don’t know their girlfriend (Israel) is dissing them behind their back, dancing (and fucking) with every guy in town she can manipulate, ….pathetic ‘Captain-Save-A-Hoe’ cucks.

    Pretty funny actually. People are endlessly dumb. Not sure why GP thinks that the lady in the white hat stole the show, though. But I got some idea what that is all about (weird GP naivety), … but I’ve said enough already.

    But also not funny. GP is completely JQ-converged (and always has been, …. bought and paid for, is my guess), and here GP is escalating the narrative towards condoning more violence (because the globalists do indeed want to continue to escalate the narrative, that way, apparently). A bad sign. A very bad sign.

  442. @PhysicistDave

    On the other hand, your use of the term ‘totalitarian’ as applied to the U.S.A. has some precedents, e.g.:
    Hannah Arendt on Anti-Racism as a Totalitarian Ideology
    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/hannah-arendt-antiracism-little-rock
    Arendt’s article may be read at:
    Reflections on Little Rock
    by Hannah Arendt
    https://www.normfriesen.info/forgotten/little_rock1.pdf

  443. @Colin Wright

    It can be ignored if you never got vaccinated.

    I and most of my immediate family never got the ‘vaxx’, but that doesn’t mean I’m prepared to ignore the mass of cull of mankind that is occurring.
    Friends and acquaintances took the clot shots, so did a lot of kids around the world who believed their parents were looking out for their welfare. Many children who, absent the clot shots, would have lived happy, healthy, and long lives, have died in the interim. Many other young people got myocarditis or pericarditis and will die in the near future.

    These people don’t deserve to die. But the corrupt [beholden to ZOG] politicians and health bureaucrats of their respective nations killed them.
    You may be able to ignore it Colin Wrong, seeing as you’re only looking out for number one – ie: yourself.
    Whether your neighbours kids drop dead tomorrow concerns you not one iota.
    That’s the sort of person you are. Just as you sleep easy over the conflict in Gaza, where most of those killed and injured are disproportionately children.
    You’re one hell of a good Samaritan, aren’t you ?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  444. @PhysicistDave

    We’re talking past each other. Just as genocide has never actually happened, neither Nazi Germany nor the Soviet Union actually realized their totalitarian ambitions; you’ve merely pointed that out.

    But they did have totalitarian aspirations. We don’t even have that. It’s all wretched, internally inconsist nonsense — which I suppose is an improvement, but hardly makes for an edifying spectacle.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  445. @Brás Cubas

    Brass Cubes writes:

    So, you are an anarcho-capitalist BUT cannot decide who is worse off between the U.S.A. where libertarians like Murray Rothbard thrived, where cowboys tote guns on the streets, freely denying the Holocaust on the internet, scorning the vaccinated

    Of course you do realise that, although Rothbard ‘thrived’ in America, NONE of the Libertarian policies were adopted by the various governments post WWII. Instead Big Government got even bigger and more bloated, the U.S foreign policy became even more belligerent and murderous. ie: the OPPOSITE of what the Libertarians were campaigning for.
    Hence the reason that the U.S is a Socialist Shit-hole today.

    But Mr Brass Cubes, it’s not enough that you’re economically illiterate, on top of that it upsets you that people are calling out the Holohoax for what it is and that the fools who took the clot shots are being scorned.
    WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU ?

    Should we congratulate parents who were too LAZY to do the independent research and exercise some critical thinking, and instead coerced their kids into taking an experimental mRNA gene therapy (that we now know is the most lethal** vaccine/pharmaceutical product manufactured in history) ?
    (** Not only have the Covid ‘vaccines’ killed more than any other product but they are a factor of ONE HUNDRED or so more lethal than the second placed most lethal vaccine/pharmaceutical product ever devised).
    The fact is, products like Vioxx, as bad as it was, are a pin prick when compared to the lethality of the Covid vaxxes.
    The Covid clot shots have now killed millions around the world – so far*.
    (*This is not over by a long shot, and excess All Cause Mortality is now through the roof in all heavily vaxxed countries, with turbo cancers now prevalent, Scroll up to my comment # 425 in this thread and watch the first 6-7 mins of that video so that you can wake up to the tragedy that is now unfolding worldwide).

    Lastly, what is this ‘Denying of the Holocaust’ you refer to ?
    Those of us that have studied WWII in great detail do not deny the ACTUAL HOLOCAUST OF WWII. ie: the incendiary bombing/nuking of German and Japanese civilians by the Anglo Zionist empire. I mean, that was depravity on steroids.
    Added to that were the one million German POW’s that were starved to death under U.S and British supervision, and the millions more ethnic Germans that were murdered post war.

    On the other hand, if you’re referring to the Holohoax, the alleged 6 million Jews that were supposedly killed in those gas chambers that never existed, are you so stupid to believe, knowing all that we now know today, that this fabrication has any substance to it at all ?
    Why don’t you read this recent article from Ron Unz (and be sure to watch the accompanying videos contained within the thread):

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-israel-and-the-holocaust-hoax/#comments

    After you’ve perused the article itself, scroll down to the comments section and read everything posted by the extremely well researched historian John Wear.
    You’ll see the usual mendacious Jews like Fran Taubman trying to make a case for the preposterous official narrative of the Holohoax. But John Wear totally eviscerates Taubman and the other trolls in the employ of ZOG.

    Yes, a few hundred thousand Jews died during WWII, but the bulk of those died in:

    1) In the 1942/43 typhus epidemics

    2) The final 6 months of the war, as the German transport/food logistics network was bombed and strafed to a standstill. German civilians in the cities were themselves starving in the final months of the war as precious food supplies never got through. Needless to say, very little got through to these work camps either.

    In addition, many thousands of Jews were killed in the eastern territories – but not by the Germans, for the most part.
    You see, in the early stages of Operation Barbarossa, as the Germans liberated these eastern territories, the citizens of Ukraine and the Baltic nations ( Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia), conducted pogroms on the Jewish communities as pay back for the atrocities and persecution at the hands of Jewish Kommissars during the Holdomor and such.
    But these killings of Jews were [conveniently] blamed on the Germans.

    So Mr Brass Cubes, get your history straight. Stop reading ZOG concocted fabrications and read some ACTUAL HISTORY, from the likes of David Irving, John Wear and the other revisionists.
    In the case of John Wear, his masterful book ‘Germany’s War’ can be read for free here in UR in HTML format.
    Check it out – and get back to me once you’ve absorbed REAL history (and not those fairy tales concocted by mendacious Jews like Elie Wiesel).

  446. @Truth Vigilante

    As they say, don’t feed the trolls.

    You work really hard here, don’t you? Typing a lot. Writing a lot, hoping other commenters will read and respond…

    I’m sorry I fed you.

    I once had a neighbor who fed stray cats. All he got was more stray cats…

    I haven’t even bothered to read all of your comment.

    Have a nice day.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  447. @Truth Vigilante

    My little pal Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    The malevolent Jew Dovid only focuses on the ‘Architects’ within the AE911Truth organisation, which are only a small subset of the hard science credentialled signatories of that entity.

    Except, you see, I am not actually a Jew.

    You are just making this up.

    Without any evidence at all.

    Which proves what you are: a disgustingly evil pathological liar.

    You are just a silly little man who is so afraid of his own shadow that when he lies on the Internet he is terrified to give his own name.

    The pathological liar also wrote:

    Meanwhile, let’s single out one of those highly credentialled individuals that I speak of, that is neither an architect or an engineer, but is acknowledged by her peers as one of the greatest scientists of the 20th century. That person is Lynn Margulis…

    Lynn Margulis was a biologist.

    ‘Nuff said.

    And I am pretty sure that she herself would have found quite amusing the idea that she was “acknowledged by her peers as one of the greatest scientists of the 20th century.” You might think that quite a few Nobel laureates would come ahead of her? And, no, the National Medal of Science is not equivalent to the Nobel Prize, not even close.

    Look: you have repeatedly made a very, very specific claim: that the conventional explanation for the fall of the Twin Towers very obviously violates some of the most basic principles of physics.

    If that were true, that should be especially obvious to the people whose life centers on the basic principles of physics — i.e., physicists.

    You try to explain why we physicists are all unwilling to say so, but, as you point out, there are plenty of non-physicists on the AE911Truth site.

    So, why would it be precisely the people who really are experts on the basic principles of physics who are most afraid to speak out?

    Sorry, but this fits in with your consistent pathological lying in claiming I am a Jew who is controlled by the Zionists and all the rest: You live to lie.

    I proved above that I was actually strongly criticizing Zionism more than forty-five years ago, as I continue to do today.

    That’s your idea of a tool of the Zionists???

    If it were really true that the conventional explanation of the fall of the Twin Towers obviously violated the basic principles of physics, you would be able to say why this is (obviously) true. You would not need to appeal to the thousands of non-physicists in AE911Truth.

    But you never have.

    Because you can’t.

    Because you are just a silly pathetic little man terrified to even give his real name who enjoys pathologically lying on the Internet.

    But I am truly getting a big kick out of you: if you did not exist, it would be necessary to invent you.

    Your favorite Valiant Agent of ZOG and an actual physicist,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento (Ph.D., physics, Stanford)

  448. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    neither Nazi Germany nor the Soviet Union actually realized their totalitarian ambitions; you’ve merely pointed that out.

    But they did have totalitarian aspirations. We don’t even have that

    You really, truly believe that the current ruling class in the USA does not have “totalitarians aspirations”????

    They are trying to jail the man who is the leading candidate for the Presidency simply because he expressed his (correct) view that the 2020 election was stolen. They think they are entitled to jail a foreign national who, working in a foreign country, published some material that embarrassed the US ruling class. And they sincerely believe they are entitled to rule in Eastern Europe, in the South China Sea, and everywhere else on the planet.

    If that does not constitute “totalitarian aspirations,” what on earth does??????? Were Hitler or Mao or Pol Pot ever as aggressively reaching for total power over the entire planet as these thugs are?

    Colin also wrote:

    We don’t even have that. It’s all wretched, internally inconsist nonsense…

    I think this is perhaps where we differ: you seem to think that past totalitarians — the Nazis, the Fascists, the Communists, etc. — had some consistent program that was not nonsense.

    They did not.

    The only consistency in their programs was a deep thirst for power, just like the totalitarians who rule in the US and who intend to continue to rule the world.

    Read the books I suggested: actually learn something about these guys. They were not brilliantly consistent intellectual theoreticians. They were violent thugs who made it up as they went along.

    Just like the violent thugs who now control the USA.

    Indeed, you under-estimate the consistency of the current US totalitarians: their guiding thread is a deep abhorrence of normal, bourgeois human life and normal human beings, including a deep hatred of basic facts of human biology. This was in fact shared by the Communists, the Fascists, the Nazis, et al., but the ruling class in the US is actually more consistent in this respect: they so hate human nature that they are sexually mutilating children who are confused about their “gender.”

    Earlier totalitarians were not quite that consistent in their hatred of normal human lives!

    Read Milton Mayer’s book: you think you are free, just as the Germans he profiled thought they were free.

    You are not. The totalitarians who rule over you are frighteningly consistent in their hatred for normal, decent human beings.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  449. @Buzz Mohawk

    Mohawk Man has posted over 10,000 comments in the Unz Review, and UR readers who check out his commentary history will note that it’s nothing but FLUFF.

    You’re likely not to find a single comment dealing with an issue of substance, his whole time spent posting frivolous nonsense in the heavily censored Steve Sailer threads.
    One day you’ll die like a dog Mohawk Man, and just before you check out of this world, you’ll reflect on your life.
    And it’ll sink in that you never lifted a finger in attempting to rectify the wrongs of this world.

    You are a pathetic wretch of man.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  450. @Brás Cubas

    Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    So, you are an anarcho-capitalist BUT cannot decide who is worse off between the U.S.A. where libertarians like Murray Rothbard thrived, where cowboys tote guns on the streets, freely denying the Holocaust on the internet, scorning the vaccinated, where mythical self-made-men like the Koch family throw their millions around promoting the “minimum state”, etc, etc, and China, where people must behave or lose social credits, where billionaires must behave or get kidnapped, where censorship controls the media, and denying the Jewish Holocaust is a crime…

    Do you see that you are actually making my point for me?

    You list a few things that are good about America and a bunch of things that are bad about China.

    Yep, the Beijing regime is not a model of a libertarian regime. It is indeed a rather nasty government.

    On the other hand, the Beijing regime is not sexually mutilating children who are confused about their “gender,” it is not trying to control the Gulf of Mexico (as the US is trying to control the South China Sea), etc.

    And, sure, the Beijing regime puts innocent people in jail who really annoy the regime.

    Just as the US regime convicted the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, who had actually done nothing wrong at all, and just as the US regime is trying to imprison the leading candidate for the Presidency of the United States.

    Sure: if you only mention the good things about the US regime and the bad things about Beijing, you make the US sound good. And if you only mention the good things about Beijing and the bad things about the US, you can make Beijing sound pretty good.

    But if you take a broad view of both regimes… well, it is rather hard to see the difference, isn’t it?

    The key thing I am trying to get across to both you and Colin is that historically and still today, most citizens of totalitarians regimes most of the time think of themselves as having relatively normal lives. Most (non-Jewish) Germans were not terrified at the thought of the Gestapo knocking on the door. Most Soviet citizens were not in fact hauled away by the NKVD or KGB or Cheka or whatever.

    And, similarly for China and the US today.

    So, how did those regimes police ordinary people? There just were not enough secret police to do the job.

    The way it worked was by creating a general atmosphere under which everyone knew that if you said the wrong thing or had the wrong attitude, it was not so much that you were certain to end up in a concentration camp or the Gulag, but rather that your career was dead or your kids could not get into a good school or whatever.

    It is that sort of “institutional policing” that is more widespread, and much, much more effective, in controlling ordinary people than the actual secret police.

    And that is the real heart of totalitarianism.

    For example, I have a close family member who is a physicians and who considered applying for a faculty position at the University of California. To do so, you have to submit a “diversity” statement, proving that you have and will toe the line on “diversity.” And the university makes clear that merely saying that you have encouraged non-Asian minorities to enter medicine and have mentored such people is not nearly enough. You have to show extraordinary efforts to adhere to the dogmas of diversity.

    Similarly, in California a physician who informs her patients that getting the Covid vaccine is a bad idea is at serious risk of losing her license. Is it certain that she will? No — merely likely. And that is enough to keep almost all physicians in line.

    This is how totalitarianism actually worked in the real world on a daily basis for ordinary people, not in cartoonish caricatures, in Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, and Soviet Russia.

    That is what I am trying to get through to you and Colin.

    You also wrote to me:

    You’re just another case of Humpty-Dumptyism.

    No.

    In fact, you are.

    I am using the word “totalitarian” to apply to societies that operate in the way societies that we all agree were “totalitarian” actually did operate most of the time — Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany Fascist Italy, Maoist China, etc.

    Sure, the fake show trials really did occur. And they really are occurring today in the USA also — General Flynn, Julian Assange, the January 6 protestors, and, of course, Trump himself.

    But far, far more common, and far, far more effective is the “institutional policing” that keeps the masses of people under control. I have given specific examples from my own family of how this works in America today and, specifically, how it is being applied to one profession — physicians in California.

    That is the core of totalitarianism in actual historically totalitarian countries and that is what is going on in the USA today.

    As I have said, the nice thing about being a philosophical anarchist is that I can look with clear eyes at any government and see what it is actually doing, for I have faith in no government whatsoever — whether Beijing or Moscow or Washington.

    And what the US regime is indeed doing today — from fake judicial proceedings involving prominent citizens such as General Flynn and Trump to “institutional policing” of ordinary citizens — is indeed what totalitarian governments have done historically.

    Reality is what it is, regardless of what we would like it to be.

    Really: read the books I suggested and learn what “totalitarianism” really was and is in the real world, not the cartoonish caricature that exists only in your own mind.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
    , @Colin Wright
  451. @Truth Vigilante

    My little buddy Truth Vigilante wrote to Buzz Mohawk:

    Mohawk Man has posted over 10,000 comments in the Unz Review, and UR readers who check out his commentary history will note that it’s nothing but FLUFF.

    You’re likely not to find a single comment dealing with an issue of substance, his whole time spent posting frivolous nonsense in the heavily censored Steve Sailer threads.

    Meaning of course that Buzz is not a virulent Jew-hater and that he does not spout crack-pot theories about the Twin Towers (like, you know, the planes were really holograms — I just love that one!).

    Our little model of decorum also wrote to Buzz:

    You are a pathetic wretch of man.

    I just love the way you have of winning friends and influencing people!

    I think we can all learn a lot from you.

    And remember, little buddy: the Eye of ZOG can trace everything on the Internet — it knows who you are, where you are, and what you are doing every hour of the day.

    I mean, I would know, now wouldn’t I? As you know, my Talmudic masters tell me all. Have you heard that the camera and mike on your computer and cell phone and HDTV and so on are all on even when you think you have turned them off? Ah, how we can watch you!

    Technology is truly wonderful, now isn’t it?

    Your friendly neighborhood Valiant Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  452. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    The back-up accusation is that they are “self-hating Jews” or even “traitors”.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  453. @PhysicistDave

    the Eye of ZOG can trace everything on the Internet — it knows who you are, where you are, and what you are doing every hour of the day.

    As you know, my Talmudic masters tell me all. Have you heard that the camera and mike on your computer and cell phone and HDTV and so on are all on even when you think you have turned them off?

    Yes, yes I’m aware of your tribe’s capacity to spy on us. But, I’m not going to live forever.
    I’d rather go down in a blaze of glory, rather than grovelling on my knees as you do.

  454. @PhysicistDave

    I read what you write with concern. You may be painting an exaggerated picture, but it is plausible that the U.S. is anyway heading for something very similar to your picture, or to civil war.
    It seems to me that the race problem is at the root of the American problems. Whites and Blacks don’t get along with one another, and Jews don’t get along with either. It worked for a while, but the dam seems about to burst.
    China has an advantage over the U.S. in that it is practically monoethnic. It must only avoid class conflict, and it will be OK.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  455. bjondo says:

    Boredom always leads back to 9-11.

    Denials eventually morph.

    Definitely not a hologram, but what?

    Hezarkhani Video

    http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2009/09/hezarkhani-video-stunning-evidence.html

    Something other than a 700 something. Grain silo pushed through six Pentagon walls?
    Punchout Hole, Photos of Puncture in C-Ring Wall

    https://www.911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/punchout.html

    Lawn so clean can take a roll:

    25 Intense Photos Captured at the Pentagon on 9/11

    https://www.military.com/history/25-intense-photos-pentagon-9-11.html

    Read somewhere best thing to come from MIT, Stanford, Harvard was collaboration
    to develop toilet paper.

    Of course the AI people prefer to use cyclotron-shot nano particles for cleaning if cleaning even done. Research and all.

    5ds

  456. Wild Man says:

    I dunno, …. I keep trying for the best way to feature the dynamic we are faced with, .. which seems to me to be like Jewdom/JQ/Israel, in the main, behaving precisely like a cognitively deficient Cluster-B-type psycho-bitch psycho-pathology-sufferer, …. note that for such singular personages (actual people who are like that), …. one giant-sized hallmark is this unmistakable attitude they hold, ….. a very lustily selfish pig at the trough that is intent on eating everybody else’s supper:

    https://afsc.org/sites/default/files/documents/is_pal_infographic_PRINT.pdf

    One party indicated in the infographic is said pig, and the other party, not so much. This dynamic exists all over the place, over all kinds of venues, featuring all kinds of other contra-parties, wherever the west interfaces with the rest of the world or within the faux-west itself.

  457. @PhysicistDave

    ‘You have a better suggestion?’

    In any case, your ‘philosophical anarchism’ seems to come close to being indistinguishable from my position — that of course anarchy would be nice, but it just can’t work. And the larger a population we have, and the more diverse that population, the less it can work. If I’m Daniel Boone, and my nearest neighbor is twenty miles off a pretty much feels as I do in any case, I really can do as I please. The less that’s the case, the less feasible anarchy becomes.

    For what it’s worth, I think that about the closest we ever got to the ideal — that anyone has ever gotten to the ideal — would be the United States, circa 1830-1860. Kind of raucous, but you really could do as you pleased — at least until you got your neighbors so annoyed they did as they pleased. But government? What government?

    I would say that the closer we can approach to anarchy, the better. However, at some point it’s just going to collapse into a tyranny of the strongest and least scrupulous.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  458. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…The key thing I am trying to get across to both you and Colin is that historically and still today, most citizens of totalitarians regimes most of the time think of themselves as having relatively normal lives. Most (non-Jewish) Germans were not terrified at the thought of the Gestapo knocking on the door. Most Soviet citizens were not in fact hauled away by the NKVD or KGB or Cheka or whatever…’

    Well, you may be wrong about Stalin’s Russia. There was a saying that there were three classes of people: those who have been there, those who are there now, and those who will be sent there. In truth, Stalin’s m.o. can be seen as the successive terrorization of literally every stratum of Soviet Society: ideologues, the intelligensia, technicians and engineers, peasants, the party, the army, national minorities, the security organs themselves — everyone got a turn. So I’m not sure anyone in his state saw themselves as having a ‘normal’ life — unless a condition of more or less intense terror is seen as ‘normal.’ Certainly a forum such as this would have been inconceivable.

    Ditto for China during Mao’s heyday, and for Khmer Rouge Cambodia.

    ‘Totalitarian’ societies rarely reach such apogees of perfection — but that is their aim. We have no such aim. We have no aim at all.

  459. @Truth Vigilante

    ‘…Whether your neighbours kids drop dead tomorrow concerns you not one iota.
    That’s the sort of person you are. Just as you sleep easy over the conflict in Gaza, where most of those killed and injured are disproportionately children.
    You’re one hell of a good Samaritan, aren’t you ?’

    Evidently, I hurt your feelings.

  460. @Truth Vigilante

    ‘The malevolent Jew Dovid…’

    Jeepers; he sounds pretty frightening.

  461. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…But it is reasonable to hope that by the end of this century, Zionism will just be a memory of a past evil, like Communism, Fascism, and Nazism.

    History, alas, takes time.’

    It wouldn’t be the primary difficulty the Palestinians have with it, but what bugs me about Zionism is that this time, we’re on the wrong side.

    …Incidentally, Fascism wasn’t so bad. Mussolini’s Italy was hardly a compendium of all the liberal virtues, but it did little that, say, France did not. Of course, it set Germany a bad example.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  462. @Wielgus

    ‘…The back-up accusation is that they are “self-hating Jews” or even “traitors”…’

    That tack is employed — but it rarely seems to really take off. After all, the ‘self-hating’ accusation implies that one should applaud murdering children by the thousand, while calling such critics ‘traitors’ boils down to saying one shouldn’t expect one’s own people to meet any moral standard at all.

    The ‘anti-semitism’ ploy does work, though. After all, follow Israel long enough, and you do start becoming anti-semitic. Israel is an endless succession of atrocities, injustices, grossly manipulative interference in our politics, and infuriating lies — all produced by Jews. You start making negative associations. It’s as inevitable as being wary about letting your corgi near a pit bull. Of course, it might be a very nice pit bull, and you wouldn’t want to judge, but…

    So the accusation sticks. You are an anti-semite. That it is Jews themselves who have led you to become one doesn’t alter the fact.

  463. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Which proves what you are: a disgustingly evil pathological liar…’

    I think you’re taking Truth’ too seriously.

    He may just be being Australian.

  464. @PhysicistDave

    It matters not what field Lynn Margulis specialised in – because she was a polymath and thus more than capable of passing judgement on this matter.

    The most important take away of what she said in that video, are her words about the ‘Scientific Method’. And the scientific method must be applied in ALL CASES in every scientific discipline – there are NO exceptions. (Not even if it conflicts with your Talmudic benefactors Phy-Do).
    And REAL science is all about collating the evidence (being careful to preserve the evidence for future examination – the opposite of what actually occurred on 9/11, as the minions of ZOG went out of their way to DESTROY evidence).
    Thereafter, a conclusion is drawn from those hypotheses that are MOST LIKELY, rather than making fanciful extrapolations based on the LEAST LIKELY hypothesis (as you, NIST and the ZOG controlled U.S government have done).

    This is why you’re a such gutless coward Phy-Do, you’re too afraid to speak out against the ZOG establishment.
    Now contrast that with someone who’s bursting at the seams with courage.
    The following is the official statement from the Houthi leader Sulaiman Ahmed, who had this to say after the Anglo Zionist empire started bombing his impoverished nation, a nation that is undergoing a monumental humanitarian crisis:

    “Do the American, British and Zionist expect that any aggressive act against Yemen will distract us from defending Gaza ?

    We swear, even if we turned into atoms scattered in the air, we will not leave Gaza.
    We will continue to target Zionist ships and those going to the Zionist entity.
    We will confront America, make it kneel, burn its warships, all its bases and anyone who cooperates with it.

    No matter what it costs us, we will not leave Gaza. Let the great war ignite, for we are its people and its men.
    To our people, our brothers, our sons and our fathers in Gaza, we are with you …. and will be with you until our last breath”.

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  465. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    In any case, your ‘philosophical anarchism’ seems to come close to being indistinguishable from my position — that of course anarchy would be nice, but it just can’t work.

    Actually, the vast majority of human societies that have ever existed, including many studied by cultural anthropologists, were examples of anarchism.

    So, it can indeed work.

    Keep in mind that almost no anarchists object to all forms of social cooperation or to social sanctions against thugs. Indeed, most anarchists think that anarchists themselves are the true advocates of social cooperation.

    Also keep in mind that the state seems to have been invented only five or six thousand years ago.

    That being said, if people want a state, they are going to have a state.

    And the majority of human beings nowadays want a state. I think that eventually they will grow out of it. But it may take a while.

    Colin also wrote:

    For what it’s worth, I think that about the closest we ever got to the ideal — that anyone has ever gotten to the ideal — would be the United States, circa 1830-1860. Kind of raucous, but you really could do as you pleased — at least until you got your neighbors so annoyed they did as they pleased. But government? What government?

    Among the free states, indeed. Which is why I am both an anarchist and a loyal supporter of the American Republic. Actually restoring Constitutional government is probably the best to be hoped for in my lifetime.

    Colin also wrote:

    I would say that the closer we can approach to anarchy, the better. However, at some point it’s just going to collapse into a tyranny of the strongest and least scrupulous.

    Well. again, most human societies that have ever existed were indeed anarchies and were fairly peaceful. There are lots and lots of means of exerting social sanctions against aggressors besides having a state. A state is a very unusual social institution, and humans are very inventive at coming up with institutions and associations to meet their needs — usually such institutions and associations are not states. And anarchists do not object to such institutions and associations so long as they do not initiate coercion against innocent people.

    In any case, I think you and I do agree that there is no excuse for not viewing states in a clear-eyed manner for what they are. As Thoreau wrote in the famous Essay:

    Government is at best but an expedient; but most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient. The objections which have been brought against a standing army—and they are many and weighty, and deserve to prevail—may also at last be brought against a standing government. The standing army is only an arm of the standing government. The government itself, which is only the mode that the people have chosen to execute their will, is equally liable to be abused and perverted before the people can act through it.

    And Thoreau was writing of a government that you and I and, indeed, Thoreau himself realized was not that bad as governments go.

    States are not all profoundly evil, but practically all states engage in acts that, if carried out by private individuals, would rightly be viewed as crimes. And some states are indeed monstrously evil.

    We anarchists try to get people to face up to that basic fact.

    Your friendly, neighborhood, law-abiding anarchist,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  466. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…I think this is perhaps where we differ: you seem to think that past totalitarians — the Nazis, the Fascists, the Communists, etc. — had some consistent program that was not nonsense.

    They did not…’

    No, they did. The Nazis visualized all Germans united in a racial commonwealth, in which all participated. The Russians looked forward, of course, to a Communist utopia, populated by the new Soviet man. I imagine the ideology of China’s Cultural Revolution and that of the Khmer Rouge was more of the same.

    Our current ‘leaders’ have nothing like that. It’s an incoherent mishmash, where they try to throw every progressive group imaginable a bone whilst doing as Israel commands: ‘green’ power, open borders, blackity-blackity-black, whatever the latest frontier in sexual abominations is…there’s no grand scheme here at all, much less a genuinely revolutionary one. Nothing fits; what does Transsexualism have to do with open borders, and what does that have to do with ‘green’ energy? If anything, they’re mutually exclusive. Our new Americans aren’t going to have any truck with sexual freaks, and they’re going to want lots of cheap cars that run on gas.

    Look at who the supposed leader is. He’ not a self-appointed messiah like Hitler, or a pathological killer like Stalin or someone determined to remake China from the ground up like Mao. Biden is a completely corrupted senile old man, chosen because he’s perfectly amenable to anything at all.

    You’re half right; our current rulers are ultimately little more than a junta devoted to manipulating the system to give themselves power. But that’s not totalitarianism; it’s even the opposite in a sense. Like him or not, the totalitarian is an idealist; he’s going to take us to his utopia whether we like it or not. The clowns running America at the moment have no clear idea where they want to take us at all; they just want to pick our pockets.

  467. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Actually, the vast majority of human societies that have ever existed, including many studied by cultural anthropologists, were examples of anarchism…’

    No. You’re merely confusing the absence of the mechanisms of social control that you’re familiar with — the courts, police, universal public education — with the more traditional devices of tribe, relatives, class, etc. Try doing as you please in an Amazonian village; you’ll be out on your ear.

    Your ‘anarchy’ is merely the irrational obscurantism of taboo and ‘the ways of our people’ rather than some formal code, with an explicit rationale that at least pretends to rely on a logical underpinning.

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  468. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Meaning of course that Buzz is not a virulent Jew-hater and that he does not spout crack-pot theories about the Twin Towers (like, you know, the planes were really holograms — I just love that one!)…’

    Oh, alright…I’ll wade in.

    I don’t get very far with varieties of 9/11 Trutherism that posit that there weren’t planes or that they didn’t knock down the buildings.

    If that was the case, why bother with the planes at all? A thousand things could go wrong, from the hijackings not coming off to the flight getting cancelled. And then what? The building just collapses, without any apparent cause? That is going to be hard to explain.

    If I was staging an inside job, I’d have some trucks in the basement that supposedly carried the charges and a nice paper trail leading back to whoever I wanted it to lead to.

    What’s the point of the planes? Assuming it was all a plot, the planes just become a Rube Goldberg device of unnecessary complexity, offering little more than multiple points for potential failure and exposure.

    Ergo, the planes were real, and they really were the cause of the collapse of the buildings. I’ll go further. The Israelis obviously knew what was up, and shepherded the bombers to some unknown extent — but the bombers themselves were sincere, 100% Arab, Islamic terrorists.

  469. @PhysicistDave

    ‘A state is a very unusual social institution, and humans are very inventive at coming up with institutions and associations to meet their needs — usually such institutions and associations are not states. ‘

    You appear to think such alternative institutions are an improvement.

    Oh, au contraire. Read some of the stories in Winesburg, Ohio. One’s neighbors can be very tyrannical, and unlike as with the state, there are often not even theoretical limits on their power.

    Then too, your cozy little neighborhood or tribe will find itself unable to resist the impositions of larger, more powerful groupings. In a way, you’re just mirroring the problem with perfect anarchy on a larger scale. Just as, in perfect anarchy, my seventy eight year old neighbor with leukemia would be quite incapable of keeping me from taking his power tools, so your Indian village can do little to keep Spanish conquistadors from enslaving you and working you to death in the silver mines.

    Anarchy is an aspiration, not a solution. We can try to move closer to it; we can’t get there — and we’d be fools to try.

  470. @Colin Wright

    One of my customers was leading a business meeting in lower Manhattan when he and everyone in the room facing the windows saw one of the airliners fly by and crash into one of the towers. He described it to me.

    A few weeks later, he moved his company’s offices from there to the Chrysler Building in midtown. He said it was just too depressing to look out the windows at all that destruction.

    So, the planes were of course real.

    Let’s not get bogged down in physical details. Ron Unz advised the same thing with regard to the JFK assassination, in his writing about it a few years ago. Debates ab0ut grassy knolls, how many bullets and where they came from only distract from the real questions: cui bono? and who planned and made the event happen? Same with 9/11.

    My own opinion is that 9/11 was a false flag that led the American people into wars that weakened Israel’s military competitors, solidified American oil interests and in general carried out the neocon strategy. Serious Islamists would not intentionally step on the rattlesnake like that.

    (I almost stepped on a rattlesnake in the mountains one time. Wisely, I darted away rather than get bit and die from poison. Nobody would intentionally cause the United States to bring its wrath down on them. 9/11 was a false flag that brought that down on the enemies of those who actually caused 9/11!)

    On 11 September 2001, I was at work in a financial office where we kept two monitors tuned to CNBC, the financial network with stock tickers and commentary. As a result, I watched the whole thing happen, as reported and covered by financial jounalists right where it was happening, mid-town Manhattan, including Wall Street and the New York Stock Exchange.

    What happened was: As soon as the second tower was hit, and then reports came in that the Pentagon was hit also, every reporter was saying that “we are now at war.” No buildings had fallen, but the attack was bad enough to put us “at war.”

    Since then, I have watched other videos of other networks from that morning, and the same thing happened: The United States was declared “at war” before any buildings fell. The towers were still smoking…

    My point is that no buildings even had to fall down for the event to do its magic and hypnotize the American public into a state of war — and into a security, police state that we still inhabit.

    It’s quite possible that the collapse of the twin towers was just icing on the cake and unplanned.

    (There is, BTW, plenty that I understand about the unusual structure of those buildings that made it possible for me to understand how they could fall from that event without any extra effort. They were not built like most skyscrapers, and they really did fall from fire that softened the floor trusses and led to a pancaking collapse. They were pretty lousy buildings, actually, if you ask me. Never fully occupied, grosssly oversized, a project in the 1960s that got out of hand. Ugly too. No loss.)

  471. bjondo says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    One of my customers was leading a business meeting in lower Manhattan when he and everyone in the room facing the windows saw one of the airliners fly by and crash into one of the towers. He described it to me

    Sorry, horseshit. Plane may have flown by but no contact with WTC.

    Buildings had to come down for emotional impact, insurance, other.

    every reporter was saying that “we are now at war.

    Coordination? No Muslims, no impact. Israelis, Amer Yid and Cheney types.

    …and they really did fall from fire that softened the floor trusses and led to a pancaking collapse.

    No pancaking and truly horseshit.

    See links at #269

    5ds

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  472. @Truth Vigilante

    ‘Yes, yes I’m aware of your tribe’s capacity to spy on us. But, I’m not going to live forever.
    I’d rather go down in a blaze of glory, rather than grovelling on my knees as you do.’

    This is inconsistent. If ‘Dov’ is one of the Master Race, how is he ‘groveling on his knees’? Isn’t he rather using his fiendish wiles to get us gentiles to grovel on our knees?

    Not you, of course. You’re onto him.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
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  473. @Buzz Mohawk

    ‘…My own opinion is that 9/11 was a false flag…’

    Whether I would agree with that depends on what you mean by ‘false flag.’ I think bin Laden and al Qaeda were real enough; however, I think that they were being played by the Israelis. I suspect that the Israelis were smoothing the way for them, warning them when they were about to expose themselves, etc — somewhere in there were some moles, feeding Israeli guidance into the group, and monitoring their progress.

    It’s worth noting that all that summer, Israeli ‘art students’ were all over the US, trying to slip into secure buildings, testing security, finding the vulnerability that would permit a spectacular terrorist. I’m fairly sure they had no intention of doing anything themselves; as the Liberty fiasco demonstrated, that way risks national suicide.

    But I do think they were finding the hole that they could lead al Qaeda to exploit. And they found it.

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  474. @Colin Wright

    My concept of “false flag” is broad enough to include what you suggest.

    Your idea is not much different from what our own FBI does when it facilitates and encourages misfits to become criminals and “terrorists” and then “catches” them.

    Regarding those Israeli “art students,” I encountered two of them at that time as part of my work. They were being sponsored by a Jewish charity that did business with my office. Those young men were stereotypical, unfriendly types, what I call “Lee Harvey Oswalds” in both phenotype and personalty.

    In retrospect, it was obvious that they were not art students. Being somewhat interested in art and its history myself, I asked one of them what artists and types of art he liked… And I got no answer. He apparently knew nothing about the subject. I couldn’t even engage him in conversation about it.

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  475. bjondo says:

    Parasites are parasites.

    Unfortunate Son: The Plight of John Fogerty in The Jewish Dominated Music Industry
    Robert Heimdal June 28, 2018

    http://www.renegadetribune.com/unfortunate-son-the-plight-of-john-fogerty-in-the-jewish-dominated-music-industry/

    Shame JF signed the Parasite’s letter:

    Israel Under Attack – Open Letter By CCFPeaceOctober 12, 2023

    https://www.creativecommunityforpeace.com/blog/2023/10/12/israel-under-attack-open-letter/

    5ds

  476. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wrong writes:

    Ergo, the planes were real, and they really were the cause of the collapse of the buildings. I’ll go further.
    The Israelis obviously knew what was up, and shepherded the bombers to some unknown extent — but the bombers themselves were sincere, 100% Arab, Islamic terrorists.

    A Boeing 767 is a 100 tonne flying ‘Coke can’. It’s thin aluminium fuselage would have crumpled into nothingness upon impact with the WTC tower, which was constructed of hundreds of thousands of tonnes of high grade structural steel and concrete.
    The fact is, a DOZEN Boeing 767’s could have impacted with each of the WTC towers in exactly the same spot, and the buildings would still NOT have collapsed from top to bottom.
    Only a FOOL would suggest that a plane impact could have brought down the towers.
    The structural engineers who designed the WTC said themselves that these buildings were designed to withstand the impact of a wide bodied commercial jet aircraft.
    Watch the 37 sec clip below and hear it straight from the horses mouth:

    As Frank DeMartini says himself (slightly paraphrased):
    ‘The plane impacting with the tower is like a pencil puncturing the mosquito netting on your screen door. The intense grid around the area of puncture remains rigid and its structural integrity is not compromised’.
    DeMartini was in the North Tower (above the impact zone) on the day of 9/11. It was reported that he was heroically trying to herd people to escape exits and trying to save lives.
    He perished when the building collapsed – which was convenient for the ZOG perpetrators of 9/11, because he would’ve testified that there was no way a plane impact could have brought down the building and that it was obviously a controlled demolition.

    Yes, in that scenario above, there may have been localised collapse at the point of impact.
    But the floors below the point of impact would have been rock solid and, absent any other other extraneous event, the buildings would’ve likely stood intact for hundreds of years.

    As for the alleged 19 Arab hijackers, are you aware Colin Wrong, that there is NO CCTV footage of any of the hijackers boarding ANY of the planes that were alleged to have crashed on 9/11?
    The Israeli company that was in charge of security at the three airports from where these aircraft originated (Boston Logan, Newark and Washington Dulles), said the cameras were not functioning on that day.
    All the film footage that was shown on the ZOG owned MSM of the alleged hijackers, was footage that had the date/time stamp removed and could have been filmed at any time and from any other airport in the months prior to 9/11, as these Arabs [aka patsies] travelled around the U.S.

    The only genuine film taken at an airport on the morning of 9/11 was of Mohammed Atta (the alleged ringleader of the ‘hijackers’), that was taken on a connecting flight early on the morning of 9/11.
    It is film shot at the airport in Maine, of Atta boarding a flight that was going to Boston Logan.
    In other words, according to the official USG/ZOG narrative about 9/11, Atta and one of the other hijackers were in Maine on the morning of 9/11. They then caught a connecting flight to Boston Logan, where they transferred to another flight (AA11) which allegedly ended up impacting with the North Tower.

    Think about that UR readers, and note how preposterous this fable sounds.
    The arrival of the flight from Maine into Boston Logan, left only a short time frame enabling the ‘hijackers’ to then catch their next flight.
    What if the flight from Maine was delayed by 30 mins (a common occurrence)? The hijackers would then have missed the connecting flight (AA11) that began the 9/11 False Flag.

    SUMMARY: Colin Wrong, it is clear that you know next to nothing about the 9/11 False Flag.
    To the extent you know anything, you’re just regurgitating misdirection that you gleaned from the ZOG owned/controlled media.

    It’s best that you keep your uninformed opinions to yourself – lest you be exposed for the simpleton that you are.

  477. @Truth Vigilante

    My little buddy Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    Yes, yes I’m aware of your tribe’s capacity to spy on us. But, I’m not going to live forever.
    I’d rather go down in a blaze of glory, rather than grovelling on my knees as you do.

    I was kidding, little fella: you are not important enough for anyone to waste their time spying on you.

    I guess it’s true that Aussies have no sense of humor, eh?

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  478. @Truth Vigilante

    My little pal Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    It matters not what field Lynn Margulis specialised in – because she was a polymath and thus more than capable of passing judgement on this matter.

    Well, you are demonstrating here once again your “Web psychosis,” your belief that actual concrete knowledge and certified expertise in the real world is not relevant to discussions on the Web.

    You made some very, very specific claims above (see here):

    I mean, even Blind Freddie can see that the official ZOG scripted explanation for the collapse of those buildings contravenes:

    1) Newton’s 3rd Law of Motion
    2) The Law of Conservation of Momentum
    3) The Law of Conservation of Energy.

    Now those are of course core principles of… physics.

    And the people who are experts on testing, applying, and enunciating those principles are… physicists.

    The basic principles of mechanics are our “mother’s milk”: I myself am an expert on applying the exact, specific principles you named in Newtonian mechanics, in Special Relativity, in General Relativity, in quantum mechanics, and in quantum field theory. I have been eating, drinking, and sleeping those principles for way over a half century.

    I know them better than I know the back of my own hand.

    Lynn Margulis did not. She had her areas of expertise. This was not one of them.

    Even if Lynn Margulis were indeed a polymath as you claim (actually she wasn’t), if you had appendicitis, you would want it dealt with not by a polymath but by a surgeon. If your car broke down, you would want it repaired not by Lynn Margulis the supposed polymath but by an auto mechanic.

    And the same applies to basic principles of physics: it is physicists like me who actually know this stuff.

    Not Lynn Margulis. And not you.

    I don’t recall if on the earlier thread you were one of the planes-were-holograms guys or nuclear-explosion guys or no-humans-saw-the-planes-craash guys or if you were merely focused on denying that gravity-driven collapse could explain the Twin Towers’ collapse.

    It doesn’t really matter. The specific quote that I just gave from you is simply wrong as a matter of physics.

    And all your huffing and puffing that I am a groveling Agent of ZOG (hey — as you know, I am a proud and valiant Agent of ZOG!) and your constant quoting of non-physicists cannot change that fact.

    You and the people you keep quoting do not understand physics at the level most physicists do.

    And, as you concede, while you can name a slew of professionals who (sort 0f) agree with you, practically none of them are tenured professors of physics at serious research universities.

    Yes, yes, I know: all tenured professors of physics at serious research universities (except of course for Steve “Cold Fusion” Jones — let’s not forget Crazy Steve!) have been bought off by ZOG. Just like me.

    And you are indeed correct: every single tenured professor of physics at serious research universities, except for Steve Jones, does indeed work for ZOG at exactly the same level and in the same capacity I do. And I will swear to that fact under oath in a court of law.

    Does that admission make you feel better?

    Your friendly neighborhood (proud and non-groveling) Valiant Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento (Ph.D., physics, Stanford)

  479. @Buzz Mohawk

    Mohawk Man, your comment was going well, and you said a lot of sensible things in it.
    Then you undone all your good work with this asinine statement:

    They were not built like most skyscrapers, and they really did fall from fire that softened the floor trusses and led to a pancaking collapse.
    They were pretty lousy buildings, actually, if you ask me.

    Mohawk fellow, you are one seriously uninformed individual in relation to a grasp of the basic fundamentals of the hard sciences.
    The WTC towers were built with EXTREME ROBUSTNESS – arguably the most robust skyscrapers ever built. Most buildings are built with a ‘redundancy factor’ incorporated in their design. ie: They are not designed to just withstand the amount of loads they’re likely to encounter, but OVER-ENGINEERED by a factors of three or four times to withstand much higher loads, thus enabling a buffer or safety factor.
    The WTC towers however, were designed with an even larger redundancy factor, much more so than any other other skyscrapers, either before or since.

    You urgently need to watch the 5 mins of the video below (from 59:10 – 1:04:30), as it will enlighten you one hundred fold as to how strong the WTC towers really were:

    • Troll: PhysicistDave
  480. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘Actually, the vast majority of human societies that have ever existed, including many studied by cultural anthropologists, were examples of anarchism…’

    [Colin] No. You’re merely confusing the absence of the mechanisms of social control that you’re familiar with — the courts, police, universal public education — with the more traditional devices of tribe, relatives, class, etc. Try doing as you please in an Amazonian village; you’ll be out on your ear.

    You seem to be assuming that anarchists are generally opposed to “mechanisms of social control.”

    You are mistaken.

    You suggest that in non-state societies “the mechanisms of social control that [I’m] familiar with — the courts, police, universal public education” will in fact be replaced by other mechanisms of social control “with the more traditional devices of tribe, relatives, class, etc.”

    Yes, yes, exactly — that is precisely what we anarchists want!

    We anarchists do not object to all “mechanisms of social control” per se.

    We object to the state.

    More broadly, we object to the use of coercion — physical force or the threat of force — against innocent people.

    Of course, there have to be some “mechanisms of social control” to deal with violent thugs and, for that matter, with people who are just rude and obnoxious.

    That is not the point of dispute between anarchists and statists.

    The issue is: what kind of “mechanisms of social control” should be employed? If someone is rude, obnoxious, ungenerous, kooky, etc., is the appropriate “mechanism of social control” to use force against him? Anarchists would say, “No: talk to him, remonstrate with him, ignore him, if necessary shun him and ostracize him — but if he does not use force or the threat of force against innocent people, then leave him alone!”

    But what if some thug does use coercive measures — physical force or the threat of force — against innocent people?

    Then they are of course entitled to defend themselves, using retaliatory force if necessary, either individually or as a group.

    How does that differ from a state?

    A state compels people to contribute to it — normally via taxes — whether they wish to or not.

    People banding together against a thug under anarchism would be voluntary.

    What if it’s not — what if they force people to join their retaliatory band?

    Then they have established a state.

    Which might happen, of course. But if most people were philosophical anarchists, most would be inclined to oppose those who tried in this way to establish a state.

    By the way, this never seems to have actually happened: real states never seem to have come into existence by people banding together to fight bad guys and then forcing everyone else to join.

    That is the myth of the “social contract,” which is now generally recognized to be ahistorical.

    Historically, real states started with the bad guys taking over, not with the good guys over-reaching.

    I don’t want to hammer this point into the ground, but I am not sure how to make this any clearer: anarchists just do not object to all “mechanisms of social control” per se. Anarchists object to the state and, more generally, to the initiation of coercion against innocent people.

    This has been a commonplace among anarchist writing for centuries, but for some reason, lots of non-anarchists are confused about this very simple point.

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  481. @bjondo

    No Muslims, no impact. Israelis, Amer Yid and Cheney types.

    No pancaking and truly horseshit.

    You’re absolutely right Bjondo on that score. I’ve observed your commentary elsewhere in UR and you’re very good on most matters.
    But you’re wrong when you say ‘No Planes struck the WTC’. Tens of thousands (at a minimum) of New Yorkers and/or tourists who were in NYC on the day, observed REAL planes impacted with each of the towers.
    People like these in the video below (watch the few mins from 2:00 – 5:00), and observe the impact of the aircraft that was allegedly* UA175 impacting with the South Tower):

    (*Of course the real planes with real passengers and crew that were alleged to impact with the WTC towers, ie: AA11 and UA175, did not do so.
    The real planes were electronically commandeered mid flight and landed elsewhere. (The passengers and crew have not been heard of since, so it’s a safe bet that ZOG murdered them).
    The planes that impacted with the WTC were remotely flown military spec 767 drones, painted in the livery of American and United Airlines to make them look like passenger aircraft).

    We know that a minimum of tens of thousands of New Yorkers witnessed at least one of the planes impacting with the WTC towers, because after the North tower was struck, every man and his dog in NYC that wasn’t working and had an unobstructed vantage point, was staring skyward at the burning Nth tower, and was THUS in a position to see the second aircraft impact with the South Tower.
    ie: people like these in the video below (watch the few mins from 1:00 – 6:00):

    Importantly also, in that clip you’ll see the camera pan away to other buildings where you’ll observe people on the rooftops of adjacent buildings also transfixed staring skyward at the burning Nth tower, and thus in a position to observe the second plane strike.

    There is no question that real planes struck the WTC towers on 9/11. The evidence to support it is beyond overwhelming.
    Meanwhile, the entirety of the case for ‘No Planes’ rest on the spurious beliefs of some Jewish guy who uses the alias ‘Ace Baker’, and some crudely concocted graphics he conjured up.
    That people attach any credibility to this disinfo propagater Ace Baker (and likely sayan), never ceases to amaze me.

    • Replies: @bjondo
  482. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    …Incidentally, Fascism wasn’t so bad. Mussolini’s Italy was hardly a compendium of all the liberal virtues, but it did little that, say, France did not. Of course, it set Germany a bad example.

    You’re making my point for me.

    The word “totalitarian” came into currency with Mussolini applying it proudly to his own regime.

    That is historically the paradigm case.

    And it is not at all clear that Mussolini’s regime was as bad as the current American regime. Yeah, Mussolini murdered Matteotti, but then our totalitarian regime recently murdered Jeffrey Epstein.

    And the sexual mutilation of children confused about their “gender,” the attempt to imprison a foreign national who embarrassed the US regime while publishing on foreign soil (Assange) — it is hard to point to anything Mussolini did that was as totalitarian as all that.

    Mussolini was not a good man — ask the Ethiopians or the Albanians or the Greeks.

    But, it is hard to argue that he was any worse than the current US regime.

    And, by his own admission and the judgment of history, he was a “totalitarian.”

    So, it would be inconsistent to deny the same term to the current regime that has overthrown the American Republic.

    Except that contemporary Americans are more delusional than Italians under Mussolini.

    Americans still falsely think they are free.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @Colin Wright
  483. @Brás Cubas

    Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    It seems to me that the race problem is at the root of the American problems. Whites and Blacks don’t get along with one another, and Jews don’t get along with either. It worked for a while, but the dam seems about to burst.

    No, not really.

    Across the street from us is a Black woman in her ’60s, a nurse. A couple doors down is a Jewish family. Across the street from them are some Shiite Muslims from Iran. Next door to us is a Chinese family.

    We all get along fine.

    Do ghetto Blacks have a higher crime rate than other ethnic groups? Sure, but what you hear Americans complaining about is inflation, the (largely White) homeless problem, the immigration disaster at the Border, etc. Black crime is just not among the top complaints.

    And I’ve never heard anyone suggest that we need a Civil War or secession to get away from the Blacks!

    The underlying problem is that the American ruling elite deeply hates and despises the majority of honest, productive Americans — the “deplorables,” as Hillary Clinton dubbed them.

    And the ruling elite is willing to trample all of the legal, Constitutional protections Americans once enjoyed — jailing the Jan 6 protesters, murdering Jeffrey Epstein because he had dirt on prominent members of the elite, a more than decade-long crusade against Julian Assange for publishing information that embarrassed the government, and now actually trying to jail the leading candidate for the Presidency simply because he truthfully pointed out that the 2020 election was stolen.

    All of this, erecting a totalitarian bureaucracy within our shores, so that the ruling elite can keep the ordinary, decent, productive people in submission.

    Not to mention fueling proxy wars around the planet.

    BC also wrote:

    You may be painting an exaggerated picture…

    I’m afraid not — this is simply the daily news in the USA.

    The term “totalitarian” was brought into currency by Mussolini, who proudly used it to describe his own regime.

    To argue that the current regime is less “totalitarian” than Mussolini’s is simply to ignore the daily news.

  484. @Colin Wright

    This is inconsistent. If ‘Dov’ is one of the Master Race, how is he ‘groveling on his knees’?

    Physicist Dovid is Jewish – hence no likelihood he’ll be part of any master race.
    Meanwhile, in relation to the inbred misfits, that sliver of depraved degenerates that represent the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG) that controls the entirety of the western financial system (the ones that believe in their minds that they’re the ‘Chosen Ones’), they would have no hesitation in knocking off one of their own if the latter was working to expose their malfeasance.
    We know this to be true because they murdered truth-telling Jews like Lynn Margulis and Senator Paul Wellstone*.
    In the case of the latter, they killed his wife, daughter and a few of his Congressional staff members as well – for good measure.

    SUMMARY: No inconsistency here at all. Physicist Dovid is a rank and file lowly Jew.
    And if his inability to grasp simple Newtonian Laws of Motion is any indication, a poorly educated one as well.
    He’s nothing but a grovelling hound that carries out the wishes of the ZOG hierarchy.
    If he ever stepped out of line, ZOG would do away with him in the blink of an eye.
    Phy-Do knows this – hence the reason why he reads the ZOG dictated disinfo script word perfect.

  485. Wielgus says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    There was a time when “student at the London School of Economics” was almost a euphemism for an operative, though not necessarily a Western or Israeli one.

  486. @PhysicistDave

    Getting along at an interpersonal level is good, and a sign that the problem has not reached a critical stage, but I’m talking of a political rift. Your neighbors have a political voice, and collectively they may be giving support to this system you dislike.
    As for immigration, I’m sorry that the U.S. is facing such a persistent problem. The State seems to be failing its purpose. Maybe a return to the medieval system of feuds will solve the problem. Do anarchists embrace the feudal system or is it a no-no?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  487. Wielgus says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    You should have said something about that tennis player Marc Chagall, and whether the “art student” corrected you…
    How odd that art student should be the Mossad cover of choice… Not the only resemblance their state has to Hitler of course…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  488. bjondo says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    You could be right TV.

    How do you explain Michael Hezarkhani’s plane “melting” into the South Tower the tower these people were watching? That plane they were supposedly watching seems to me to be CGI. So, who saw what besides preset explosions and smoke?

    (the plane “melts” into the bld’g)

    Ace Baker seems to be a deceiving agent of some sort. Haven’t paid attention to him.

    I think Simon Shack (alias) better. I could be deceived here also.

    Certainly a missile/drone into the Pentagon

    Again, you could be right.

    5ds

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  489. Wielgus says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I would question whether Mussolini’s Italy was “totalitarian” – it relied on a sort of pact between fascists and monarchists, rather than being an outright fascist system. Mussolini bitterly regretted leaving the monarchy in place, as it turned on him following the loss of Sicily in 1943.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  490. @Buzz Mohawk

    ‘…Your idea is not much different from what our own FBI does when it facilitates and encourages misfits to become criminals and “terrorists” and then “catches” them…’

    It hardly justifies the practice, but there is the rather substantial difference that the FBI swoops in at the last minute and nabs their patsies before they can actually kill anyone; Mossad allowed 9/11 to occur, killing thousands, etc.

    There’s evil, and there’s evil. There’s stealing a lawnmower someone left out, and there’s beating an old lady to death and robbing her house.

  491. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…I guess it’s true that Aussies have no sense of humor, eh?’

    Maybe it’s like the Chinaman who pulled a knife on me, or the black who beat me in a game of chess.

    There are always outliers.

  492. @PhysicistDave

    ‘I don’t want to hammer this point into the ground, but I am not sure how to make this any clearer: anarchists just do not object to all “mechanisms of social control” per se. Anarchists object to the state and, more generally, to the initiation of coercion against innocent people.’

    Oh, but that can most certainly happen absent the state.

    Read up on your Comanches sometime — they had a society about as close to perfect anarchy as any I have ever heard of.

    …kind of hard on the nearby non-Comanches, though.

    …particularly the ones unable to form a strong state.

    Even aside from that, your ‘anarchist’ village or commune or whatever can very easily decide to ride you out of town on a rail even if you haven’t done anything. Hell, their charming traditional customs may mandate burning you alive because your wife gave birth to triplets or something.

    I don’t see your anarchy as amounting to much more than a desire to dismantle the upper layers of government with the question of what’s to be done when those upper layers are needed left unanswered.

    As I say, I like the idea of anarchy. (my ‘anarchy,’ anyway — I’m not chancing your neighborhood lynch mob.) I like the idea of me climbing Aconcagua. It’s just that in both cases, I don’t think it would actually work.

  493. @bjondo

    How do you explain Michael Hezarkhani’s plane “melting” into the South Tower …. ?

    Michael Hezarkhani made a real film of the second aircraft impacting with the South tower.
    Of course, that’s not to say that the Hezarkhani video we’ve seen hasn’t been tampered with to show the desired effect. (ie: ‘melting’ into the structure of the building).
    I hope you’re also aware that, immediately after he made his film, MH sold it to one of the major ZOG owned networks (CNN I think it was), so we’ve likely never seen the unmanipulated original footage.

    Just think about it. ZOG ha a lot riding on the 9/11 False Flag, just as it did on the JFK coup d’etat that it also orchestrated. And thus it’s no surprise that ZOG has mobilised its immense assets of misdirection and deflection (not to mention ZOG owned Hollywood’s inventory of special effects), to fabricate and leave ‘evidence’ that points to all manner of alternative theories.
    These alternative hypotheses, superficially at least, appear somewhat plausible to the lumpen proletariat (just as they did in the case of the JFK assassination).

    One of the keys to unlocking 9/11 is to follow the output (as I do), of all the objective 9/11 Truth tellers on the planet – those known FOR SURE to not be beholden to ZOG (all of whom have paid a heavy price for exposing ZOG malfeasance).
    All of these truth tellers I speak of have demonstrated their unimpeachable integrity.
    And the top two 9/11 researchers on the planet are the likes of Christopher Bollyn and USMC Lt-Col (ret) Field McConnell, followed by the likes of the AE911Truth organisation, Col. Robert Bowman, Dr Kevin Barrett and so forth.
    And ALL of them, are in unanimity (coupled to the deluge of verifiable evidence), that there were real planes used in the 9/11 False Flag (incl. at the Pentagon*).

    (* Of course it was NOT commercial airliners that crashed into these buildings as the official ZOG conjured narrative claims. All the aircraft were remotely guided drones with no one on board.
    A Raytheon owned and operated Douglas A-3 Skywarrior impacted with the Pentagon. But a fraction of a second before impact it fired a Bunker Buster missile, possibly an AGM-65 Maverick, that punched those nice round holes in the C, D & E rings of the Pentagon walls).

    The following masterful display from Christopher Bollyn is worth watching in its entirety. But at least watch the few minutes from 1:17:50 – 1:21:00 to determine why it was so easy for the WTC impacting aircraft to slice through the facades of WTC1 and WTC2 like butter:



    Video Link

    That video above titled ‘CHRISTOPHER BOLLYN ‘THE DUAL-DECEPTION OF 911 AND THE FRAUDULENT WAR ON TERROR’ is on BitChute.com.
    It used to available on You Tube, but is no longer accessible there (at least not in my country – I’m in Australia).
    Whenever I try to locate it on You Tube using the original URL which I bookmarked long ago, I get this message:

    ‘This video has been removed for violating YouTube’s policy on hate speech. Learn more about combating hate speech in your country’.

    So UR readers, I would be interested in knowing if that video is still available in your country.
    The You Tube URL is:

    Tell me if you can still get it, and be sure to specify what country you’re located in, which will give me an idea how the censorship extends around the world.
    Clearly, in Australia where I reside, we have no First Amendment Freedom of Speech protection rights.

    SUMMARY: Remotely flown drone aircraft were utilised in all three impacts with buildings on 9/11 (two in NYC and one at the Pentagon).
    All three aircraft were equipped with forward firing ordnance and launched DU missiles a fraction of a second before impact, thus enabling a smooth ingress into the buildings without leaving identifying major structural components visible outside of the structures.

    Below is the photo of the drone aircraft (the one that was alleged to be UA175), that crashed into the South tower, just prior to impact:

    ALL commercial 767’s, EVERY EFF’N ONE ever made, has a FLAT underbelly when in flight and the landing gear has been retracted.
    Commercial 767’s have no attachments on the underside, no tubular appendages etc, like the one in the photo which are circled for your attention.

  494. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wrong, as usual, is too lazy to look into the meaning of ‘anarchy’, in the context that’s it’s utilised by the Libertarians.
    It does not mean warlords running riot as in the case of the streets of Mogadishu Somalia.
    This is the brilliant Doug Casey’s concise summation of ‘Anarchy’:

    Anarchy, as many Libertarians know, simply means the lack of government, the lack of a coercive State on top of society.
    Anarcho-capitalism and unregulated free markets are not only workable, but optimal, when people have confidence in their society and institutions.
    They’re often confused with chaos and nihilism, their philosophical opposites, which are taking over our society.

    Meanwhile Colin Wrong, have you ever wondered why Europe developed into being the most prosperous region on Earth over the last millennium ? The answer is exceedingly simple, as the Libertarian Ryan McMaken explains:

    In contrast, Europe was relatively anarchic compared to other world civilisations and became the home of the great economic leap forward that we now take for granted.
    This isn’t “anarchy” in the sense of “chaos,” of course. This is anarchy as understood by political scientists: the lack of any single controlling state or authority.

    In key periods of the continent’s development—as now—there was no ruler of “Europe” and no European empire. Thus, in his book The Origins of Capitalism, historian Jean Baechler concludes:

    The first condition for the maximisation of economic efficiency is the liberation of civil society with respect to the state….The expansion of capitalism owes its origins and raison d’être to political anarchy.

    It was this “latent competition between states” that drove individual polities to pursue policies designed to attract capital. More competent princes and kings adopted policies that led to economic prosperity in neighbouring polities, and thus “freedom of movement among the nation-states offered opportunities for ‘ best practices’ to diffuse in many spheres, not least the economic.”
    Since European states were relatively small and weak—yet culturally similar to many neighbouring jurisdictions—abuses of power by the ruling classes led to declines in both revenue and in the most valuable residents. Rulers sought to counter this by guaranteeing protections for private property.

    The proof is in the pudding. Most of Europe is now ruled by centralised Big Government authoritarian regimes. But there are still some survivors of the ‘Golden Age’, when states were small and the abuse of powers by the ruling class was negligible.
    They are of course countries/principalities like:

    Switzerland, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Monaco … etc.

    And what do they all have in common ? ALL have been peaceful and extremely prosperous.
    The conclusion to be drawn from this is OBVIOUS.

    Decentralisation of power is the only solution. If large states were broken up into tiny statelets, no state would be powerful enough to wage war against their neighbours (they risk the real likelihood that adjoining statelets may come to the assistance of the enclave that they’re attacking), so they’d thus be forced to live in accordance with the Jeffersonian maxim of:

    ‘Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none’.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave, Mark G.
  495. @Wielgus

    ‘…You should have said something about that tennis player Marc Chagall, and whether the “art student” corrected you…
    How odd that art student should be the Mossad cover of choice… ‘

    I think the idea was that they could wander around and into secured areas, just trying to get people to buy their drawings or whatever. If challenged, their cover would suffice to get them told politely but firmly to leave rather than being detained and interrogated.

    It was all a little strange, but it looks to me like it was part of a general survey to find a vulnerability. Evidently, they eventually settled on 9/11 and the hijackings.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  496. @Wielgus

    Wielgus wrote to me:

    I would question whether Mussolini’s Italy was “totalitarian”…

    Well… Mussolini is the guy who gave the term “totalitarian” currency and who proudly applied it to his own regime. And Fascism has therefore, quite sensibly, generally been considered a paradigmatic example of totalitarianism for a very, very long time.

    Denying that Fascist Italy was “totalitarian” is a bit like those folks who deny that Soviet Russia was really Communist! Or claiming that British imperialism was somehow not really imperialism. It is playing with words and is twisting history.

    I realize that words like “democracy” and “totalitarian” are highly charged words politically and emotionally and that people are therefore tempted to twist the meanings of those words to serve their own agendas.

    But it’s dishonest to do so.

    If we refuse to count Fascist Italy as totalitarian, we are stripping the word of its historical meaning just to serve some political agenda.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  497. @Brás Cubas

    Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    Getting along at an interpersonal level is good, and a sign that the problem has not reached a critical stage, but I’m talking of a political rift. Your neighbors have a political voice, and collectively they may be giving support to this system you dislike.

    But the political rift in America just is not, as you suggested earlier, Blacks and Jews versus Gentile Whites.

    There are just not enough Blacks and Jews numerically in the country for that to be the case.

    In fact, our Black neighbor is a moderate conservative Republican: she dislikes Trump’s bombast, but she has sane views on Affirmative Action, the runaway federal fiscal policy, etc.

    The rift in America is a class rift: what I call the parasitic verbalist overcless — people who make a living using words to manipulate and control their fellow human beings — versus the physical producers — people who make a living by engaging with the actual material world to enable all of us to have decent lives.

    Concretely, think of lawyers, diversity officers, and public-school administrators vs. farmers, truck drivers, airplane mechanics, and engineers.

    And the majority of the parasitic verbalist overclass are Gentile Whites.

    It is the White ruling elite vs. the productive people of all races.

    I take it you are not a resident of the United States? Perhaps you have gotten a mistaken view of the situation here from hearing the whining of a lot of the commenters on unz.com. They do not present a balanced picture of what is going on here. The fact that Biden is losing support and Trump is picking up support among the Hispanic and Black working class, especially the males, is telling.

    The class divisions are sharpening.

    Decent, productive people of all races are coming to see how they are being manipulated and exploited by the ruling parasitic verbalist overclass.

    Peruse the comments on Sailer’s blog and you will see some of the junior members of that ruling elite — Jack D, Pixo, Corvinus, et al. — trying to defend the ruling elite and its depredations on ordinary productive people.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  498. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘I don’t want to hammer this point into the ground, but I am not sure how to make this any clearer: anarchists just do not object to all “mechanisms of social control” per se. Anarchists object to the state and, more generally, to the initiation of coercion against innocent people.’

    [Colin] Oh, but that can most certainly happen absent the state.

    What??? You’re telling me that if we abolish the state then we won’t have immediate and everlasting utopia, our streams will not run with lemonade, and the lion will not lie down with the lamb???

    I’m shocked, deeply shocked!!!

    [/sarc]

    Yeah, you know, I do kinda know that.

    Humans can certainly be beastly to each other, with or without a state.

    Abolishing the state sill not create Shangri-La.

    Nonetheless, it is true that the state has been one of the major forms of beastliness for the last five thousand years.

    And it is not merely an incidental aspect of the state: if a “government” refrained from taxing its “citizens,” refrained from imposing “regulations” upon them, refrained from conscripting them and forcing them to finance wars, we really would not call it a “government,” now would we? To be sure, a few governments do not conscript or start wars, but a “government” that does not tax???

    A bit like water that is not wet!

    Colin also wrote:

    Even aside from that, your ‘anarchist’ village or commune or whatever can very easily decide to ride you out of town on a rail even if you haven’t done anything. Hell, their charming traditional customs may mandate burning you alive because your wife gave birth to triplets or something.

    Indeed.

    But a village does not have to do those things. Indeed, most villages that have ever existed have not routinely done such things.

    But name a government that does not routinely tax and regulate.

    Colin also wrote:

    I don’t see your anarchy as amounting to much more than a desire to dismantle the upper layers of government with the question of what’s to be done when those upper layers are needed left unanswered.

    But I have answered.

    Of course, merely abolishing government does not automatically create utopia.

    Specifically, since human beings created government, they can always re-create it and start acting in governmental ways — as you say, they can ” decide to ride you out of town on a rail even if you haven’t done anything.”

    But, once you accept a government as legitimate, you are accepting that sort of behavior as normal. Almost no one who accepts the state denies the state’s right to tax. As the old punchline has it, we are then simply haggling over the price.

    Without a “legitimate” government, there is no established, “legitimate” institution that has the accepted right to do such things. If the village does “decide to ride you out of town on a rail even if you haven’t done anything,” you can at least point out to your neighbors that they are doing something that violates the common rules of behavior that they usually abide by.

    And that would be honest: again villagers usually, most of thee time, do not do that.

    But governments do.

    Curing the common cold would not bring utopia. It would not even guarantee that some other virus won’t appear that is worse than the common cold.

    Nonetheless, the common cold is a bad thing. It would be nice to be rid of it.

    Similarly, eliminating the state will not solve all human problems. Humans, given the perversity that is part of human nature, will still find ways, sometimes, to be beastly to each other.

    Nonetheless, government, like the common cold, is a bad thing. And so it would be nice to be rid of it.

    And someday we will be rid of it: government, on the timescale on which the human race has existed is a very, very recent novelty. It has caused immense suffering. It will not exist forever.

    And, in the interim, we can at least be honest about what government is: a means by which a ruling elite seizes resources from the productive members of society and hands those resources over to the members of the government and their hangers-on. Governments do in broad daylight what common criminals prefer to do under cover of darkness.

    And who knows? Perhaps we will even rid ourselves of the state before we manage to cure the common cold!

  499. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    People making drawings tend to attract suspicion as spies in certain areas. During the Paris Commune of 1871, Pierre-Auguste Renoir was making sketches and a crowd tried to lynch him. He was saved by the Communard police chief Raoul Rigault, who knew him.
    Perhaps that was more in the days before cameras were widespread and easily portable but it’s still an odd cover to have.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  500. Wielgus says:
    @PhysicistDave

    No, it’s a case of what fascist Italy actually was, as opposed to what Mussolini would have liked to make it. In theory fascist totalitarian, in practice fascists were ruling with the King as head of state and in uneasy alliance with monarchists. When he was overthrown and then re-established in the north with German help, the new polity proclaimed itself the Italian Social Republic, clearly rejecting the monarchist alliance. But by then Mussolini was a German puppet and sometimes derisively called “the Gauleiter of Lombardy”.

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  501. @PhysicistDave

    Decent, productive people of all races are coming to see how they are being manipulated and exploited by the ruling parasitic verbalist overclass.

    Well, that seems like an optimistic note. Let’s hope you are right and I am wrong. But your model does not really contradict mine. Race division needs not to be rooted in reality in order to be exploited by that “overclass”. It suffices that a sufficiently large minority endorses it. The majority gives it support in a passive way. For instance, have you ever heard of a black person refusing to take advantage of affirmative action?
    But I don’t know why people think the Republicans are a better choice than Biden. One of the supposedly positive points about Trump that his supporters like to emphasize is that he didn’t start any wars. Well, Biden didn’t either. I’m not counting these recent attacks on the Houthis — Trump’s assassination of an Iranian general was a much more dangerous act, because it targeted a foreign State actor.
    People keep saying Biden is waging “proxy wars”. Well, Trump provided Ukraine with tons of armaments, not to mention the generous money given to Israel. (Trump, like all the Republicans, is a great supporter of Israel. His daughter is married to a Zionist Jew.) Most of the people who criticize Biden for “proxy wars” just conveniently downplay Trump’s similar missteps, just because he was lucky and no war in Ukraine or Israel popped up during his term in office.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  502. @PhysicistDave

    ‘The word “totalitarian” came into currency with Mussolini applying it proudly to his own regime.

    That is historically the paradigm case…’

    This all collapses on the minor point that Mussolini’s Italy was not, in fact, a totalitarian state. Ol’ Benito could talk the talk — but he never could walk the walk.

    All he had to work with were Italians. Ever seen them try to find their seats in a crowded train car?

    I mean, bless their hearts, and dollar for dollar, the best wine in the world outside of South America, but…

    No, just not good material for your basic totalitarian regime. Never happen…

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  503. @Wielgus

    ‘…People making drawings tend to attract suspicion as spies in certain areas…’

    This actually happened to me…in a minor key.

    But the Jews weren’t sketching — most of them probably couldn’t. They were just amiable, harmless kids, inadvertently in a restricted area…

    Here’s a piece on it. The author assiduously avoids suggesting the obvious, but the details are telling.

    https://www.salon.com/2002/05/07/students/

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  504. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Across the street from us is a Black woman in her ’60s, a nurse. A couple doors down is a Jewish family. Across the street from them are some Shiite Muslims from Iran. Next door to us is a Chinese family.

    We all get along fine…’

    Oh please. How many times have you had dinner with any of the above?

    For comparison, in my all white, all gentile neighborhood, my wife and I have had dinner with three of our immediate neighbors. Then my wife likes to feed the shut-in, and we’re on perfectly good terms with Gary and Julie, although they prefer to keep a little distance — which, to tell the awful truth, would be my ideal as well.

    But then, I’m from California.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  505. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Black crime is just not among the top complaints…’

    You don’t hear people moaning about death, either. It’s just that, as with blacks, it’s taken for granted that there’s not much to be done.

    …but, just as if you were diagnosed with melanoma, you would take action pronto, so, if your daughter calls you and her car has broken down in a hard-core black area, you will jump into action.

    Please, no fantasies about how blacks are just fine. We can argue about why this is, and what’s to be done — but don’t claim cancer’s a health treatment.

  506. @Brás Cubas

    Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    Well, that seems like an optimistic note. Let’s hope you are right and I am wrong. But your model does not really contradict mine. Race division needs not to be rooted in reality in order to be exploited by that “overclass”

    Well, no one denies that that does indeed happen. Indeed, all political commentators in the US take for granted that the Democrats have learned how to exploit non-Asian minorities — Blacks and Hispanics — for electoral profit.

    One of the interesting things going on currently is that Trump seems to be breaking into that scam: the realignment that is going on — the materially productive class vs. the parasitic verbalist overclass– now seems to be extending into the non-Asian minorities.

    Blacks and Hispanics have been manipulated and deceived by the ruling elite for a long time, and a number of them, especially males, are starting to catch on to that.

    By the way, see here for a recent analysis that fits the general point I have been making. The tl;dr point:

    Unfortunately for Haley, her party is now the party of the working class. In 2020, Bloomberg found that truckers, plumbers, machinists, painters, corrections officers, and maintenance employees were among the occupations most likely to donate to Trump (Biden got the lion’s share of writers and authors, editors, therapists, business analysts, HR department staff, and bankers.) As much as the Republican donor class wishes Haley were the party’s nominee, there’s no going back for your average corrections officer.

    Yep — “truckers, plumbers, machinists, painters, corrections officers, and maintenance employees ” versus “writers and authors, editors, therapists, business analysts, HR department staff, and bankers”: the materially productive class versus the parasitic verbalist overclass.

    If you google “parasitic verbalist overclass” on site:unz.com, you will find that I have been pounding on that point since at least the fall of 2020. I’d like to claim that it was original with me, but in fact people have been making this general point for about fifty years. It has become especially salient with the Trump phenomenon.

    BC also wrote:

    But I don’t know why people think the Republicans are a better choice than Biden. One of the supposedly positive points about Trump that his supporters like to emphasize is that he didn’t start any wars. Well, Biden didn’t either.

    Well, I am not a rabid Trumpian.

    But Trump has said some negative things about Bibi, has suggested there needs to be a peace in Ukraine, etc.

    More importantly, Trump’s base is very heavily pro-peace and anti-Deep State. Biden’s core support is the Deep State.

    And, for me, the most important issue is the totalitarian actions against Trump and his supporters — the bizarre persecutions of the January 6 protesters, the election interference against Trump (trying to keep him off the ballot, the multiple attempts to put him in jail for the rest of his life), etc.

    Even if there were absolutely zero policy difference between Biden and Trump, it would be imperative to see that Trump wins, simply to break the back of the totalitarian regime that now controls the US.

    Unless and until we do that, all is lost.

    I have mentioned a number of the actions the regime has taken against me and other members of my family. This is not just a hypothetical matter of “If they can do it to Trump, they can do it to any of us!”

    It’s mot just that they can do it to any of us, they actually have done it it me and close family members.

    We here in the United States at present live under a totalitarian regime similar to Fascist Italy, in my judgment somewhat worse than Fascist Italy. But totalitarian regimes can be and repeatedly have been overthrown.

    And the best hope of overthrowing the totalitarian regime in the United States in the near future is to defeat the Deep State by electing Trump.

    I therefore hope that we succeed in doing that.

  507. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘Across the street from us is a Black woman in her ’60s, a nurse. A couple doors down is a Jewish family. Across the street from them are some Shiite Muslims from Iran. Next door to us is a Chinese family.

    We all get along fine…’

    [Colin] Oh please. How many times have you had dinner with any of the above?

    Well… we all got together for a Christmas buffet a month ago (except for the Jewish family, who were out of town). Does that count?

    It has been years since my wife and I have thrown a dinner party of any sort — just not what we do.

    Our neighbors are not family members — they are neighbors. But we are as close to them as my family was to our (all White Gentile) neighbors back when I was a kid growing up in the Midwest.

    Perhaps you and your wife are party animals and just socialize more than we do, and more than my family did when I was a kid.

    But we are indeed neighborly with our neighbors.

  508. …Yep — “truckers, plumbers, machinists, painters, corrections officers, and maintenance employees ” versus “writers and authors, editors, therapists, business analysts, HR department staff, and bankers”: the materially productive class versus the parasitic verbalist overclass…

    Or — less palatably — gentiles vs. Jews.

    In general, of course.

  509. @Wielgus

    Wielgus wrote to me:

    No, it’s a case of what fascist Italy actually was, as opposed to what Mussolini would have liked to make it. In theory fascist totalitarian, in practice fascists were ruling with the King as head of state and in uneasy alliance with monarchists.

    You are twisting the meaning of words.

    Fascist Italy was the first regime in all of human history to be described as “totalitarian.” It was so described by its own leader. It has been generally described that way for the last century.

    But you claim that is not what the word “totalitarian” really means!

    You’re just another case of “Humpty-Dumptyism,” as Brás Cubas says.

    For a whole century, everyone has been misusing the word. Everyone, it seems, except you.

    And so now you will tell us what the word really means!

    Tell us: do you consider yourself similarly authorized to tell us what the word “mammal” really means, so that, perhaps, dogs no longer count as mammals? Or what the word “liquid” really means so that water no longer counts as a liquid?

    Have you read Orwell’s 1984? And taken it to heart?

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  510. @PhysicistDave

    And the best hope of overthrowing the totalitarian regime in the United States in the near future is to defeat the Deep State by electing Trump.

    I’m skeptical about that, but good luck.

  511. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    A German visitor to Mussolini’s Italy in the 1930s noticed that when the fascist anthem was played at the opera, not everyone sang and conversations could be heard continuing. This was in contrast to at home, where Deutschland Über Alles was sung by all at the opera and nobody would think of chatting while it was in progress. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that many Italians did not take fascism and its trappings all that seriously. Whereas many Germans talking about their own country referred to viehischer Ernst , which could be translated as “bestial seriousness”.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
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  512. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yes. The author talks of that old chestnut, the lunatic fringe, drawing conspiratorial conclusions about it all. In fact these are likely the most obvious conclusions but it is dangerous to go there. I notice the writer mentions that Israel spies on the USA, which is too blatantly obvious to ignore, and then falls back on “well, its existence is under threat and it is at war all the time”, which is a feature of Israel and not a bug.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  513. @PhysicistDave

    And the best hope of overthrowing the totalitarian regime in the United States in the near future is to defeat the Deep State by electing Trump.

    In your previous comments you exhibit your phony empathy for Julian Assange, then the next minute claim that Donald J Chump is the ‘best hope’ to defeat ZOG (which you refer to as the ‘Deep State’ – because you’re too gutless to call a spade a spade).

    Is this the same Trump/Chump who did this to Assange? (56 sec video):

    SUMMARY: Assange’s forcible extraction from the Ecuadorian Embassy occurred under Trump’s watch and at the behest of his DoJ.
    Assange and Wikileaks were instrumental in delivering the Presidency to Chump in 2016.
    In return, the Orange Man (aka the Orang-U-tan, as I like to call him), stabs Assange in the back in the most treacherous way imaginable.

    Anyone with a brain can see that Trump is every bit the ZOG sock puppet that Biden is.
    Trump always was controlled opposition* from Day One.

    (*Although that’s being far too generous to Trump, since he was never opposed ZOG’s agenda.
    In fact, his tenure was the Apartheid Israeli state’s wet dream from start to finish, as the latter got everything they wanted handed to them on a platter, with compound interest added).

    So, which is it Phy-Do ? Are you for Assange or are you for Trump ? It’s one or the other – seeing as they’re mutually exclusive.

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  514. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…And it is not merely an incidental aspect of the state: if a “government” refrained from taxing its “citizens,” refrained from imposing “regulations” upon them, refrained from conscripting them and forcing them to finance wars, we really would not call it a “government,” now would we? To be sure, a few governments do not conscript or start wars, but a “government” that does not tax???’

    But actually…the US government up to 1860 met most of your criteria.

    No conscription, nil regulations, taxes largely confined to tariffs, and wars waged almost entirely with militia and volunteers.

    Seventy-plus years isn’t a bad run, either. We couldn’t repeat it today — but in principle, it’s possible.

    Conversely, your perfect anarchy would just seem to produce petty tyranny. The Roman empire goes away and tribal kingship proves ineffectual — you get the lord of the manor with the right of life and death over his serfs. Poland, Mexico, the dying Ottoman Empire — incipient anarchy didn’t lead to a dawn of human liberty. It led to unrestricted oppression, the right of the strong to (sometimes literally) rape the weak.

    You find anarchy a powerfully attractive ideal. So do I — albeit I suspect mainly because then I can do what I damned well want to without worrying about tickets.

    However, it doesn’t work. It never has, and it never will.

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  515. @PhysicistDave

    ‘And so now you will tell us what the word really means!’

    It certainly didn’t describe the state that actually existed on the ground in Italy between 1922 and 1943.

    Merely because Mussolini advocated certain ideals doesn’t mean they were ever realized. One could as reasonably assert that US politics entered an era of perfect probity and honesty because Jimmy Carter called for it.

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  516. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…And that would be honest: again villagers usually, most of thee time, do not do that…’

    Villages — or tribes, or communes, or whatever — absent any form of higher government usually exist in a state of chronic petty — and sometimes not so petty — warfare with their neighbors. They also — again in the absence of any higher government — will prove incapable of maintaining any form of higher learning or even the most rudimentary roads, plumbing, etc. Here, see the post-Roman West.

    Then inevitably, there will be a strong man, a tribal king, the great warrior and his band of followers. They’ll decide how much freedom you’ll have.

    …and things will go downhill from there…until you get (gasp) a government; hopefully one with some interest in advancing your happiness and welfare.

    Your anarchy is ultimately this logical paradox. To exist, it assumes the continuing strength of the very institutions you would abolish. If there are no cops, you can’t call them when I come to take your food because I am big and you are little. If your local community is going to prevent this, they will also feel entitled to lynch you when you don’t show up for the village prayer meeting.

    You can’t have your anarchy. It’s an ideal, and while you can circumscribe your government in an attempt to approach it, just abolishing institutions wholesale will make matters worse, not better.

    You may not need a cop on every corner — but you do need a county court and a sheriff to enforce its rulings. You may not need universal education (although I would recommend it) but you do need enough stability and financial structure to permit universities or the equivalent (is your son going to lead a string of beef cattle to Cal Tech to finance his education?)

    You do want roads, flood control, electrical power, advanced medical care, the news of the world, this forum. How all these are to be made possible is open — but you’re not going to get it with ‘anarchy.’

    That’s just a fact. You may find that fact unpleasant, but that doesn’t make it go away. Anarchy not only can’t work, it’s been demonstrated to not work. Hell, I grew up in Sixties Berkeley. All those hippies and ‘the land’ up in Humboldt County…it never fucking panned out, and that was with all the machinery of the your hated state still there, available when and as needed.

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  517. @Wielgus

    ‘…It is hard to avoid the conclusion that many Italians did not take fascism and its trappings all that seriously…’

    My elderly Italian neighbor — he left as an infant in 1946 — was showing me photos of his family in the Old Country, most apparently dating from the Thirties. He was embarrassed that in a couple of the shots, the girls are grinning impishly and giving the Fascist salute.

    …it’s hard to picture the impish grin in a snapshot from Germany.

  518. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘And so now you will tell us what the word really means!’

    [Colin] It certainly didn’t describe the state that actually existed on the ground in Italy between 1922 and 1943.

    Merely because Mussolini advocated certain ideals doesn’t mean they were ever realized. One could as reasonably assert that US politics entered an era of perfect probity and honesty because Jimmy Carter called for it.

    All governments are con games; no government has as much power as it pretends to have.

    The Soviets claimed that their economy was centrally planned (Gosplan and all that), but it really wasn’t. As Mises and Hayek pointed out, it is not possible to centrally plan an industrial economy. The Soviet economy as it actually functioned was, in Mises’ apt phrase, “planned chaos” — a crazy hodge-podge of temporary fixes, necessary corruption, black markets, and so on.

    By your logic, the only term we can ever apply to any government is “criminal,” since they are all indeed that!

    Again: Fascist Italy is the paradigmatic case of a totalitarian society. No, Mussolini did not really control every tiny detail of human life, but neither did Hitler or Stalin or Mao or even Pol Pot.

    If Fascist Italy does not count as “totalitarian,” you are stripping the word of any meaning.

    Humpty-Dumptyism: arbitrarily changing the meaning of a word.

    Again: Fascist Italy is the original, paradigm case.

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  519. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Again: Fascist Italy is the paradigmatic case of a totalitarian society…’

    Your determination is admirable. However…

    I suggest you pick a different hill to die on. Think about Italy, then read your sentence that I just quoted.

    Mussolini may well have talked the talk. He most certainly did not walk the walk…or rather, the Italians weren’t about to.

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  520. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘…And that would be honest: again villagers usually, most of thee time, do not do that…’

    [Colin] Villages — or tribes, or communes, or whatever — absent any form of higher government usually exist in a state of chronic petty — and sometimes not so petty — warfare with their neighbors.

    You need to read some anthropology. It varies. Humans make choices.

    Some human societies are very violent. Some are not.

    In any case, as I keep saying, the fact that some human societies without government are rather beastly does not alter the fact that all governments are beastly.

    If we cure the common cold, you may still get the flu.

    That is unfortunate.

    But it does not change the fact that the common cold is a a bad thing.

    Colin also wrote:

    They also — again in the absence of any higher government — will prove incapable of maintaining any form of higher learning or even the most rudimentary roads, plumbing, etc. Here, see the post-Roman West.

    You’re just making this stuff up.

    Learn some history.

    Every “service” that is supposedly provided by government has, at some time or place, been provided through private, voluntary means — the free market, private charity, voluntary collective activity, etc.

    Take “higher learning.” Please. Most of the original universities were not governmental institutions. The most prestigious ones in the US today still aren’t, although the government has gotten its tentacles pretty deep into almost all of them, to the enormous detriment of actual learning.

    You have drunk the socialist kool-aid.

    Colin also wrote:

    Your anarchy is ultimately this logical paradox.

    There is no “anarchy” that is “my” anarchy.

    You are falling for the fallacy of negative definition.

    As you know, I am an atheist: i.e., I have no belief in a god.

    Quite commonly, true believers ask me why I “believe in” or “have faith in” atheism.

    They are making a logical error. I do not own a pair of skis. No one thinks that I therefore must own a pair of non-skis.

    Similarly for atheism. I simply do not have a belief in any god. That does not necessarily imply that I have a belief or faith in anything at all.

    I do not own a pair of non-skis.

    Similarly for anarchism. An anarchist is just someone who lacks faith in the state. A negative definition.

    That’s it.

    Anthropologists have studied numerous societies lacking in states, and those societies have an enormous variety of customs, traditions, and social systems.

    Different anarchists think different things about just about everything. I myself disagree with leftist anarchists on pretty much everything; They hate capitalism; I love capitalism. They hate consumerism; I like consumerism. They swallow the global-warming hysteria; I know it is nonsense.

    Colin also wrote:

    You may not need universal education (although I would recommend it) but you do need enough stability and financial structure to permit universities or the equivalent (is your son going to lead a string of beef cattle to Cal Tech to finance his education?)

    We had near universal education in the US before public schools became universal.

    Now we don’t — thanks to the public-school scam.

    And I don’t and never have recommended that anyone go to Caltech. More broadly, I don’t think the current business models foe colleges makes any sense at all.

    I know a great deal about several areas of STEM: almost all self-taught. The two positive things I can say about Caltech: Undergrads were encouraged to do actual work in STEM on research projects, sort of an apprentice model, which I do support. And Caltech wasted no time on busywork, so I did have more time to teach myself than most schools allow.

    Colin also wrote:

    You do want roads, flood control, electrical power, advanced medical care, the news of the world, this forum. How all these are to be made possible is open — but you’re not going to get it with ‘anarchy.’

    Most of those are not provided by government; all have been provided non-governmentally at some point.

    And “this forum”? Here I thought it was created by Ron Unz, not the government!

    Yes, I know: you mean the Internet. Which was a silly little academic plaything until it was privatized and commercialized by private companies.

    Colin also wrote:

    Anarchy not only can’t work, it’s been demonstrated to not work. Hell, I grew up in Sixties Berkeley. All those hippies and ‘the land’ up in Humboldt County…it never fucking panned out, and that was with all the machinery of the your hated state still there, available when and as needed.

    You are treating “anarchy” as a system again, one specific system embraced by left-wing loons.

    Fallacy of negative definition.

    Countless human societies have existed without the state. Many have been rather pleasant places. Some have not been.

    Because there is no Grand Plan for anarchy, just as there is no belief system for atheism.

    The fallacy of negative definition.

    You think the state is necessary because you are ignorant of the history of human ingenuity in satisfying human needs without a state: indeed, as you yourself have pointed out, and as Tocqueville strongly emphasized, we Americans were pretty good at that in the early nineteenth century.

    You have drunk the socialist kool-aid that maintains that free men and women cannot create decent lives for themselves without being coerced by a state.

    History and anthropology say otherwise.

    And you keep engaging in the fallacy of negative definition: anarchy is not a system, I have no Grand Plan for anarchy for the human race, etc.

    An atheist is someone who lacks belief in a god.

    An anarchist is just someone who lacks belief in a state, who sees all governments for what they are — gangs of criminals.

    That’s all.

  521. @Truth Vigilante

    My crazy little pal Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    [Dave] And the best hope of overthrowing the totalitarian regime in the United States in the near future is to defeat the Deep State by electing Trump.

    [The goofy guy] In your previous comments you exhibit your phony empathy for Julian Assange, then the next minute claim that Donald J Chump is the ‘best hope’ to defeat ZOG (which you refer to as the ‘Deep State’ – because you’re too gutless to call a spade a spade).

    Well… as you have said so often, I am a valiant Agent of ZOG, utterly loyal to my Talmudic masters.

    Of course, I proved above that over forty-five years ago, I was already harshly critical of the Zionist regime, as I still am today.

    But, of course, you are perceptive enough to see that this merely proves that I am under “deep cover” — very, very deep cover lasting more than forty-five years!

    Now, as to Trump, is he indeed a “chump”?

    Well… yeah.

    His policies are only marginally better than Genocide Joe’s.

    But — alas! — one year from today it is exceedingly likely that either Donald J. Trump or Joseph R. Biden will be inaugurated as President of these United States.

    And Trump is not quite as bad as Biden.

    More importantly, the Deep State has gone all out, has put down all their chips, trying to destroy Trump. If they succeed, it is hard to see what can stop them for the foreseeable future.

    But if they fail, everyone will see they can be beaten.

    So, the contest matters.

    Why does the ruling elite so fear Trump, who was, after all, one of them, and whose policies are not exactly revolutionary?

    Because Trump has figured out how to tap into the anger that the producing classes in this country feel towards the parasitic verbalist overclass, the ruling elite.

    And that really does frighten the ruling elite, for the elite cannot physically survive unless the producing classes continue to provide the material goodies that make the elite’s lives possible.

    The elite is essentially non-productive: they cannot survive by their own efforts.

    But the producing classes can have better lives if the ruling elite simply all drop dead.

    And that is why the ruling elite so hates and fears Trump: he is a symbol that the producing classes are starting to awaken to their true power.

    You need, my friend, to learn to actually look at the real political dynamics of existing societies: you cannot have a revolution unless, as Dylan said, you truly understand which way the wind is blowing.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

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  522. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘…Again: Fascist Italy is the paradigmatic case of a totalitarian society…’

    [Colin] Your determination is admirable. However…

    I suggest you pick a different hill to die on. Think about Italy, then read your sentence that I just quoted.

    Mussolini may well have talked the talk. He most certainly did not walk the walk…or rather, the Italians weren’t about to.

    Well, as you can see, I am getting quite a kick out of this humorous situation.

    Italy was the first regime in history to be described as totalitarian.

    Its leader described it as such.

    So have most other people who have commented on the matter.

    To this day, even our little friends at Wikipedia approvingly quote Rudy Rummel as stating:

    In short, totalitarianism is the ideology of absolute power. State socialism, communism, Nazism, fascism, and Muslim fundamentalism have been some of its recent raiments.

    But you know better than all of us: for a century, we have all been using the term incorrectly.

    And now you are setting us all on the right path!

    Look: if you were identifying some new fact of which all of us were unaware, you might have a point.

    But we are talking about the proper use of a word. You have not presented any new facts of which everyone for the last hundred years was ignorant of.

    In the end, the language community determines the proper use of a word. And for a hundred years, the word “totalitarian” has been used to apply to any regimes that resemble Fascist Italy — again, it is the paradigm case. To be totalitarian simply means to be like Fascist Italy.

    You seem to think that you know the secret inner meaning of the word, hidden from the rest of us.

    Words do not have secret inner meanings.

    You are engaged in Orwellian behavior — like the Ministry of Truth.

    You have the hilarious tendency to act as if people who are using the word in the normally accepted manner are the eccentrics, and it is only you who is perfectly normal.

    I admire your chutzpah.

    But not your common sense.

    The only interesting question here is: why are you doing this?

    And, I guess the answer is that you agree with me that there are disturbing similarities between Fascist Italy and the current regime in the USA. But you just cannot bring yourself emotionally to admit that the USA is now totalitarian.

    So, you escape that fate by denying that the paradigm case of totalitarianism was in fact totalitarian.

    Do I have it right?

  523. Curle says:
    @Colin Wright

    Remind me again what purported southerner Johnson had say when southern statues were being toppled by activists using southern money.

  524. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    I think I’ll firmly rub Dave Miller’s et al collective snouts in this one.

    ‘House Republican leadership said it would push U.S. federal agencies to punish any employee who participates in a planned walk-out aimed at protesting the Biden administration’s approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    Oh, when it comes to issues involving Israel, the Zionist lobby indeed does rule the roost.

    But the Zionist lobby consists mainly of Gentiles — specifically, Christian Evangelicals: read Mearsheimer and Walt’s book.

    I grew up among these people — I take it you didn’t?

    Nice enough people, but quite nuts on some issues — and one of those issues is getting the Jews to all get themselves killed in the Final Battle in the Mideast in order to bring about the Second Coming.

    And they really do believe it!

    Now… outside of issues involving Israel and the Jews themselves, say, abortion, the Zionist lobby most assuredly does not rule the roost, mainly because it is not unified on most other issues — e.g., Jews tend to be pro-abortion, Evangelicals anti.

    As I keep telling my little pal Truth Vigilante, the actual concrete details of politics really do matter, at least if you want to grasp what is going on.

    Or change what is going on.

  525. @Colin Wright

    More clueless commentary from the aptly named Colin Wrong below (taken from various foolish posts he’s made in this thread):

    Anarchy not only can’t work, it’s been demonstrated to not work …. it doesn’t work. It never has, and it never will.

    And yet, the ‘Wrong Man’ contradicts himself when he writes: ‘But actually…the US government up to 1860 met most of your criteria’.

    Yes Wrong Man, the U.S in the 130 or so years since the founding of the republic (other than for 1861-65 War of Northern Aggression – mistakenly referred to as a Civil War), up until the creation of the ZOG owned Federal Reserve in 1913, was the nearest that any nation had come in recorded history to be a Libertarian utopia and more or less anarchic society.
    And needless to say, it created the most FREE, most PROSPEROUS* society in history.

    (*Yes, in nominal terms, the Chinese have lifted more millions out of poverty since China embraced Capitalism under Deng Xiaoping.
    But in percentage terms, most Chinese today still have a far lower per capita GDP than even the poorest middle class citizen of the first world).
    The Libertarian paradise of the 19th century which the U.S was, lifted the VAST BULK of the populace into the middle class and beyond.
    No major nation has ever been able to duplicate this feat.

    So let’s define what the Libertarian/Anarchic U.S of the 19th century was. It was a nation that:

    1) Had NO income or corporate taxes levied

    2) Had negligible government as a % of GDP

    3) As a direct byproduct of the above, had negligible micromanagement of the lives of the citizenry. (ie: there could never have been a Covid Psyop/vaxx mandate imposed on the masses, there could never have been a fraud like Anthropogenic Global Warming initiated, and thus trillions flushed down a rat hole on various Green Energy boondoggles).

    4) Relied on the private sector to deliver all goods and services – a job the private sector succeeded in doing spectacularly.

    I of course exclude the 1861-65 War of Northern Aggression, because this is a standout example of Libertarianism/anarchism NOT IN EXISTENCE.
    Heavy handed State authoritarianism (Lincoln’s government), took control.
    It denied the right of the southern states to secede** – a right that is enshrined by the constitution.
    (**The major reason for the Southern states wanting to secede was due to the crushing increases in tariffs levied by Washington, which disproportionately affected the southern states. This was done to protect inefficient manufacturing located in the northern states. This was the antithesis of Libertarianism).

    The fact of the matter is that U.S manufactured goods were already ‘protected’ with an indirect ‘tariff’ of sorts, which went by the name of Ocean Freight charges.
    In other words, for a European manufactured product to successfully compete for market share in America, it had to be cost competitive after the cost of shipping/inland transport was factored in (ocean freight costs were substantial in the 19th century and before, as opposed to low ocean freight charges in the present era due to better technology/efficiencies).
    Most American manufactured goods were indeed cheaper than the foreign equivalent, so there was NO NEED to protect these efficient producers.
    That small subset that could not produce efficiently, deserved to go bust. It is not the job of the consumer/or corrupt politicians to subsidise inefficient producers (aka crony pals of the politicians).

    Meanwhile, in relation to that loose collective of independent republics that collectively made up the U.S in the mid 19th century, had they been left alone and not coerced into a war, the states would have taken the appropriate course of action that best suited them.
    In this case that meant secession from the Union.
    And thus no need for a pointless war that no humane individual sought.

    SUMMARY: Libertarian/[more or less] anarchic societies have existed in the past and, the more anarchic/minimalist in respect of government it was, the more FREEDOM and PROSPERITY said society enjoyed.
    Colin Wrong, for you to make the assertion that it has never worked, is proof of how clueless you are of history.

    The case for Decentralisation/A Small Government Libertarian/Anarchic society is best exemplified by the these words of the sage Bill Bonner below:

    Government and ‘democracy’ (ie: the antonym of Anarchy), works tolerably well, but only in small settings. In a New England town, for example…or in a club…all the participants know more or less the same set of facts…and all have equal power. People can be persuaded by the most forceful and most eloquent members of the group, but decisions rarely fall too far from the tree of practical alternatives available.

    Not only do all the participants share the same information…they also share the same culture and language…and the same codes and rules. More importantly, they also know they have to bear the costs of whatever mischief their decisions cause. In small groups, as in families, mistakes are exposed and punished…so, people tend to make fewer of them.

    But in large settings…the feedback loops get tangled or cut. People are busy with their own lives…and way too far from the ‘facts’ to have useful opinions. They can’t be expected to master epidemiology one day and the history of the steppes the next. Should the Donetsk People’s Republic be free from Ukraine? How would they know?

    As for his elected ‘representatives’…they are quickly captured by pressure groups…political donors…think tanks…and the Deep State.

    In practice, the government ‘of the people, by the people, and for the people’ is none of those things.
    It is a government of the elite, run by insiders, for the benefit of chisellers and busybodies.

  526. @PhysicistDave

    Physicist Dovid begins his comment with:

    My crazy little pal Truth Vigilante …..

    Really ?? I point out Trump’s treachery towards Julian Assange, and somehow I am the crazy one ?

    Phy-Do, what sort of an Orwellian world do you live in, where it’s OK to incarcerate/torture the greatest journalist of the 21st century ?
    Slippery snake that you are, you completely side-stepped the issue and made no attempt justify why Trump did what he did to Assange.
    Let me put it in simple words for you:

    ONLY SOMEONE READING FROM A ZOG DICTATED SCRIPT WOULD DO WHAT TRUMP DID TO ASSANGE.

    You go on to write:

    the Deep State has gone all out, has put down all their chips, trying to destroy Trump.

    What a gullible dupe you are, like all the other MAGAts.
    ZOG learnt their lesson well during the JFK Presidency. Since then, NO ONE is allowed to contest the Presidency unless they’ve first demonstrated their loyalty to ZOG.
    Do you understand that Phy-Do ?
    Yes, they slipped up in the case of Dick Nixon, hence the reason they engineered Watergate to destroy his Presidency. They were non too pleased with the election of Ronny Reagan either, but got a lot of what they wanted during his two terms in office after the assassination attempt early in his Presidency (which was a reminder to Ronny to not get too uppity).
    But since then, ZOG has doubled down on the vetting process. The only candidates that survived the primaries in recent decades are totally obsequious servile automatons (usually compromised individuals like Trump, who ZOG have dirt* on).
    This guarantees that they’ll do as they’re told.

    (*They likely have video footage of Trump’s homosexual trysts with Meyer Lansky affiliated mob attorney Roy Cohn during the 1970’s. These two were a well known couple in NYC at that time).

    Dr Ron Paul was certainly not beholden to ZOG. He was his own man and would’ve done what was best for the American (and world) citizenry had he been elected POTUS. That’s why ZOG sabotaged Ron Paul’s 2012 Presidential campaign and cheated him out of the GOP nomination.

    There is no duopoly in the U.S political system. America is run by a UNIPARTY, with two sub factions (the Dems/GOP) that have incrementally different policies.

    On the issues that matter (eg: America’s position in the Ukraine proxy war/support for the Apartheid Israeli state/increasing military spending appropriations years after year, the Covid Psyop etc), there is UNANIMITY.

    Yes, yes I’m aware that frivolous side issues are brought up like the debate on abortion, LGBTQ … rights, DEI, Building a Wall on the southern border etc, to make it appear to the lumpen proletariat as if there are substantial differences between the parties, when there really aren’t.

    And yes, most of the left leaning media is against Trump. As is the environmental/Green lobby, the Hollywood movie industry etc.
    You see, among the ‘Middle Management’ that takes orders from ZOG, there are factions.
    The faction that supports Trump and the GOP knows that the Green agenda will destroy what’s left of American manufacturing, the Oil/Fossile fuel industry also tens to lean left.

    SUMMARY: The billionaires that gain from a Democratic Presidency (the Silicon Valley crowd, most of the MSM, Hollywood film industry etc) are one faction.
    The billionaires that derive their wealth from delivering actual tangible goods and services (incl. the Military Industrial complex that tends to lean to the right), support the GDP.

    The ZOG hierarchy allows the factions to fight it out because it produces good theatre.
    BUT THEATRE is all it is.
    On the substantive issues (belligerent foreign policy/undying support for the colonial Zionist sttler state), there are in lockstep. Because ZOG ORDAINS IT THUS.

    So, here is how things will play out in the near future:

    1) After the 2020 election was ‘stolen’ from Trump and countless Jan 6 protesters were incarcerated on bogus charges, many Americans are questioning whether democracy really exists.

    2) ZOG will allow Trump to be re-elected, and the first thing he’ll do is pardon all the Jan 6 people. Thereafter, the sun will shine, the birds will chirp merrily, and the MAGAts will rejoice.
    They’ll declare that:
    The people have spoken. That democracy ALWAYS wins through in the end because THIS IS AMERICA – the land of the [cough] Free, the home of the [cough, cough] brave !!

    3) Then, Trump’s second term will be a repeat of his first. ie: more grovelling to the Apartheid Israel state (perhaps even actually starting a hot war with Iran ?)

    4) The kicking of the can down the road has gone on as long as it can. A catastrophic collapse in the U.S economy/stock and bond markets is long overdue. ZOG will precipitate this crash so that it occurs on Trump’s watch. That way they can get the 2008 GFC play book out and say:

    ‘You see, Capitalism doesn’t work. The solution is even bigger Bloated Big Government, with more Socialism and more Government micromanagement of our lives – entailing more taxes/regulations that will completely gut the middle class once and for all, ensuring that the USSA remains a Socialist shit hole.

    It’s all one big Stage Production. Trump is an actor, reading from a ZOG dictated script.
    If you can’t see that Phy-Do, then you’re a bigger chump than Donald J Chump himself.

  527. CORRECTION – One of the sentences in my last comment was supposed to read:

    the Oil/Fossil fuel industry also tends to lean RIGHT* (ie: sides with the GOP).

    (*I mistakenly wrote ‘left’ in place of ‘right’. I also posted a typo in the spelling of ‘tends’).

  528. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Some human societies are very violent. Some are not.’

    Actually, no. The only human societies that do not wage war are such ‘refugee’ cultures as pygmies and bushmen; everyone else goes at it. American Indians, tribes in New Guinea, Scottish clans, eighteenth century European monarches, the various polities of pre-British India…

    Warfare is roughly as certain as sex. I think about the only observable trend is that as civilizations grow more advanced, the wars become less frequent, but more cataclysmic. And even then…a good deal of the background to the First World War was sheer boredom; it was time for a war. See the poetry of Rupert Brooke, Franz Marc’s The Death of the Animals. This was a social eruption.

    In any case, even if I was wrong — which I am not — in your anarchy how are you going to make everyone else live in peace? You may want to — but what if I don’t? Necessarily, you have no means of compelling me to do otherwise. Humans make war. All your ‘anarchy’ will ensure is that your tribe will be victimized by a larger tribe.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  529. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…But the Zionist lobby consists mainly of Gentiles — specifically, Christian Evangelicals: read Mearsheimer and Walt’s book…’

    This is a bit like pointing out that most of those who actually carried out the Holocaust were Ukrainians.

    Look up Paul Singer and CUFI. Certainly Evangelicals supply a lot of demographic horsepower; the Jews have learned to manipulate their bigotry and ignorance.

    Is it your position that Israel would have come into being even absent the voice of American Jewry?

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @PhysicistDave
  530. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…But you know better than all of us: for a century, we have all been using the term incorrectly…’

    And you want to play semantic games. Certainly Italian Fascism spouted a great deal of totalitarian rhetoric — but not much got put into practice. In practice, Italy was by no stretch of the imagination a totalitarian society.

    Anabaptist Munster, China in the Cultural Revolution, Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge — sure. Nazi Germany — certainly making progress.

    Italy in 1922-1943?

    Nah.

  531. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…And, I guess the answer is that you agree with me that there are disturbing similarities between Fascist Italy and the current regime in the USA. But you just cannot bring yourself emotionally to admit that the USA is now totalitarian…’

    If only. At least then we’d know there was a plan — even if it was one we didn’t like.

    What’s going on now is more like we’re all in a school bus careering down a mountain road — and chimpanzees are fighting over the steering wheel.

    People keep seeing a dark, malevolent plot, like Farmer Bob is planning to slaughter us all and sell off the meat. If only. After all, even Farmer Bob can see that it would behoove him to water his stock, make sure they’re adequately fed, protected from predators, etc. But can we count on at least that?

    Noo…we’re being subjected to the discordant and nonsensical compulsions of a lot of loonies. One could even say we’re getting Dave’s anarchist paradise, in the worst sense possible. It’s an anarchy of ideology, if nothing else.

    They’re going to kill us all. That they’ll die as well won’t do the rest of us any good.

  532. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…You’re just making this stuff up…’

    Sure, Dave. That’s it. I’m just making this stuff up.

  533. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Actually, the vast majority of human societies that have ever existed, including many studied by cultural anthropologists, were examples of anarchism.

    So, it can indeed work…’

    I’m fairly sure the reverse is the case. I have read a few accounts of life in pre-state — or perhaps sub-state — societies. At any rate, places where the village, the local community sets the norms and resolves disputes rather than the modern state: Behind Mud Walls is an account of life in an Indian village, written by a missionary couple who lived there for some number of years, Balkan Nightmare is an account by a Transylvanian German that includes a detailed account of his life in his community in the years before the Second World War.

    In both cases, the state is far away, and in any case, not welcome. Does everyone hop about and do as they please? Oh, no. If lower-caste farmer Dave gets uppity, the higher caste men of the village will gather together and beat him within an inch of his life. Does young Transylvanian German Dave go about as he sees fit? Au contraire: his life and time are fully booked, and if he doesn’t like it, he can go live in the woods with the bears.

    No doubt other accounts of pre-state communities would confirm this pattern: A Boy in the Village, about growing up in pre-war Egypt — think that would tell a different tale?

    The irony here is that today, under the aegis of Dave’s hated state, he has far more of his beloved anarchy than he would have had at any point in the pre-state past. Famously, the ideal by the Seventies was ‘whatever two consenting adults choose to do in the privacy of their own home…’

    Today, in general, as long as no one starts screaming or calls 911, Dave can do whatever he likes within his 50×100 feet. He can take up crocheting if he likes.

    It’s all cool. Try that in your traditional long house, or huddled in the cave with the rest of the band. There, you’re going to toe the line. Don’t touch those needles. Men don’t crochet — not unless the whole damned tribe does.

    Your anarchy is a demonstrably unworkable fantasy, and however ardently you pretend otherwise, has never actually been successfully practiced short of becoming a hermit in the desert — and even then, you’re counting on some pious matron to come by regularly and drop off cheese and pita.

  534. bjondo says:
    @Colin Wright

    Paul Singer

    Did I see the name “Paul/Saul Singer”?.

    Not to interrupt an ongoing exchange but Yid destroys a Christian town.

    The death of Sidney, Nebraska: How a hedge fund(YID) destroyed ‘a good American(CHRISTIAN) town’

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/paul-singer-sidney-nebraska-cabelas-bass-pro-shops-merger

    5ds

  535. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘Some human societies are very violent. Some are not.’

    [Colin] Actually, no. The only human societies that do not wage war are such ‘refugee’ cultures as pygmies and bushmen; everyone else goes at it. American Indians, tribes in New Guinea, Scottish clans, eighteenth century European monarches, the various polities of pre-British India…

    Warfare is roughly as certain as sex.

    Really — learn some anthropology.

    There are some universals among human societies, but pretty much anything that can vary quantitatively does.

    As you yourself pointed out with two examples, some human societies have very low levels of violence. Some have very high levels.

    It varies.

    Colin also wrote:

    In any case, even if I was wrong — which I am not — in your anarchy how are you going to make everyone else live in peace? You may want to — but what if I don’t? Necessarily, you have no means of compelling me to do otherwise.

    As I keep trying to tell you — but it seems not to sink in! — I have no Grand Plan for anarchy.

    There is no **my** anarchy.

    Most human societies that have ever existed did not have a state — they were, by definition, anarchies. They differed wildly among themselves.

    There is no Grand Blueprint for anarchy, just as there is no Grand Blueprint for atheism.

    Or for being a non-ski owner.

    You are still mired in the fallacy of negative definition. I find it amusing that you have trouble grasping that.

    As to what I would advocate doing with you if you initiated violence under anarchy, as I have pointed out many times in my discussions with Twinkie on Sailer’s blog, my preferred solution is that the neighbors, any among them who are looking for some good clean fun, get together, grab you, truss you up and tie you to a spit over a slow fire.

    My idea of a neighborhood barbecue!

    You seem to suffer from the misconception that anarchists are generally opposed to violence.

    Not me!

    I am opposed to initiating violence against innocent people, just as any decent human being is.

    But if some thug chooses to initiate serious violence — rape, murder, armed robbery, etc. — against innocent people, I am all in favor of violently retaliating. Ten-fold.

    Specifically, via a neighborhood barbecue.

    But, again, that is just me. There is no one blueprint for anarchy.

    Fallacy of negative definition.

    And so there are some anarchists who would prefer dealing with violent thugs via some form of “restorative justice.”

    Silly little softies, they are.

    Colin also wrote:

    All your ‘anarchy’ will ensure is that your tribe will be victimized by a larger tribe.

    Again: really — learn some anthropology. Sometimes that has happened, often not.

    Many human beings living without a state have been more than willing to use massive retributive violence to defend themselves.

    Indeed, it can often actually be harder to conquer anarchies, you know, than statist societies.

    It took the Europeans close to three centuries to fully conquer the North American Indians in what is now the United States, despite the Europeans having a huge demographic advantage and an enormous advantage in technology and wealth. The Europeans thought the Amerindians lacked a sense of honor because, when a chief surrendered and made a treaty, other Amerindians typically thought — in a sensible anarchist manner — that the treaty was only binding on the chief personally. They had not surrendered, only the hired hand they had chosen as their temporary war leader.

    Sort of as if your gardener tried to sign a contract on your behalf.

    On the other hand, Cortés and Pizarro were able to fairly decisively defeat and conquer the Aztecs and the Incas, because there was a central authority that could be defeated.

    When you “defeat” an anarchist society, there is no one who has the authority to sign a binding surrender.

    The US (and other previous Powers) ran into this in Afghanistan: we soundly trounced the Taliban. After which, the country returned to its natural state of anarchy. And then we never could win.

    States prefer to fight other states. Anarchies are tar babies.

  536. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    Your anarchy is a demonstrably unworkable fantasy, and however ardently you pretend otherwise, has never actually been successfully practiced short of becoming a hermit in the desert — and even then, you’re counting on some pious matron to come by regularly and drop off cheese and pita.

    You are just being silly: you just claimed that anarchy “has never actually been successfully practiced” after giving examples of what you claim to be anarchy!

    Do you understand the concept of an existence proof in mathematics?

    And again, there is no such thing as **my** anarchy: fallacy of negative definition.

    There have been countless, probably hundreds of thousands, of anarchies during the lifetime to date of the human species. And all different from each other.

    The state is bad, like the common cold. The state is organized criminal activity: a state is simply the means by which a ruling elite seizes resources from the productive members of society and hands those resources over to the members of the government and their hangers-on. The state does in broad daylight what ordinary criminals prefer to do under cover of darkness.

    You want to evade that simple fact.

    It would be good to be rid of the state, as most human societies that have ever existed were indeed free of the state.

    Sure: a stateless society is not guaranteed to be utopia, just as eliminating the common cold does not guarantee perfect health. Your examples are not really stateless, as you admit, but they no doubt are indeed far from perfect.

    But that does not change the fact of what a state is: organized criminality and theft.

  537. @PhysicistDave

    as I have pointed out many times in my discussions with Twinkie on Sailer’s blog ….

    OMG, that’s where the Twink went !!

    We were all wondering where this malevolent Jew and apologist for the Judeo-Ukrainian regime in the war with Russia, had disappeared to.
    It stands to reason that the Twink would congregate with all the other morons that are to be found in the ‘Enclave of Imbecility’ (aka the Steve Sailer threads).
    After all, the Sailer threads do seem to attract a disproportionate number of malevolent Jews, degenerates and misfits.

    Twink was constantly infesting the UR threads on the Ukraine proxy war, claiming the Russians were being humbled by the ‘plucky Ukies’, and that any day now the Russians would fold like a cheap suit.
    The bald-face lies he propagated were something to behold. (I mean, they were even more outrageous than the scientific illiteracy you displayed Phy-Do in relation to the 9/11 False Flag – which in itself was a high bar to hurdle).
    He was claiming that the Russians were taking outsized casualties while the Ukies had very few in return (the exact opposite of what actually transpired).

    I can understand why he was rooting for the Ukrainian proxy army of the Anglo Zionist empire, expressing his wishful thinking and praying for a resurrection of Khazaria 2.0 – the ancestral homeland of the Ashkenazi Jews.
    I mean, the writing is on the wall for the Apartheid Israel state, and the illegal colonial settler occupying oppressor will soon be expelled. So it was imperative that the small hats have a fall back option, so that they could re-establish their communities of disease ridden shtetls in the land of their origin.

    Meanwhile, many of you will to be aware that Twink’s chosen pseudonym was carefully selected, in the hope that he’d befriend some like minded sodomisers.
    Check out the Urban Dictionary’s definition of the words Twinkie/Twink:

    Twinkie:
    American Gay Term: Refers to a young pretty gay boy that is very fun to look at, play with, filled with white creme but has no nutritional (intellectual) value whatsoever. Twinks are usually referred to by older men.

    Twink:
    A gay or effeminate man, or a young man regarded as an object of homosexual desire, usually a “bottom”.
    An attractive, boyish-looking, young gay man. The stereotypical twink is 18-22, slender with little or no body hair, often blonde, dresses in club wear even at 10:00 AM, and is not particularly intelligent. A twink is the gay answer to the blonde bimbo cheerleader.

    Twink is a shortening of the name for the famous “TWINKIE” snack cake: a tasty, cream-filled snack with no nutritional value. The phallic shape of the “TWINKIE” snack cake should not escape the reader’s attention.

    Anyone who’s had the misfortune to cross paths with Twinkie, can’t argue with that description.
    Especially the part about ‘not particularly intelligent … Twink is the gay answer to the blonde bimbo ‘.
    A spot on assessment of this waste-of-space effeminate boy.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  538. @Truth Vigilante

    Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    Meanwhile, many of you will to be aware that Twink’s chosen pseudonym was carefully selected, in the hope that he’d befriend some like minded sodomisers.

    No, actually it was, as he explained many times, because he was a Korean-American who was proud to be “yellow on the outside, white on the inside.” A common term among Asian-Americans. He was married and had an adolescent son.

    TV also wrote:

    We were all wondering where this malevolent Jew and apologist for the Judeo-Ukrainian regime in the war with Russia, had disappeared to.

    He went on at great and convincing length about his background — I really do not think he was a Jew.

    TV also wrote:

    I mean, the writing is on the wall for the Apartheid Israel state, and the illegal colonial settler occupying oppressor will soon be expelled.

    You think so?

    They have nukes, you know, and are certainly willing to use them.

    I’d count it as a a victory if they simply agreed to a one-state solution that gave equal legal rights to the Palestinians living in the land “from the river to the sea.”including the right of return for Palestinians, as I proposed in my 1-10-1979 opinion piece I linked to above.

    But I’m pretty sure they will not agree to that, either.

    The immediate issue is to end the mass killings of innocent civilians in the Gaza Strip.

    Beyond that… well, I do not see how the Zionists hold on with their apartheid state for another century. But I also do not see how they can be dislodged within, say, the next decade.

    Do you?

    I see a lot of horrors and bloodshed ahead for the “Holy Land” for decades to come, alas.

  539. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    The irony here is that today, under the aegis of Dave’s hated state, he has far more of his beloved anarchy than he would have had at any point in the pre-state past. Famously, the ideal by the Seventies was ‘whatever two consenting adults choose to do in the privacy of their own home…’

    Today, in general, as long as no one starts screaming or calls 911, Dave can do whatever he likes within his 50×100 feet. He can take up crocheting if he likes.

    I can indeed engage in whatever sexual perversions with consenting adults happen to suit my fancy. I can get high in multiple legal and quasi-legal manners.

    Yeah. Have you read Huxley’s Brave New World?

    But I am not a sexual pervert and I have never had even the slightest interest in getting high or stoned or drunk or whatever.

    So, what can’t I do under this marvelous statist regime that you so love?

    Well, I can’t break the necks of the little thugs who sexually assaulted my daughter at UCLA, as I could do in a free country. And I can’t prevent UCLA from punishing my daughter for reporting one of the times she was assaulted to the police, the university authorities, and the campus paper — the campus paper ran with the story but to no avail (see here).

    In our wonderful society, it is forbidden to report crimes, even when the criminal freely confesses to the crimes as happened in this case, when it embarrasses our beloved institutions.

    I can’t go public with the information I have about crooked doctors here in Sacramento who are ripping off insurance companies and Medicare with fraudulent billing or crooked professors I knew of at Stanford who were ripping off taxpayers on federal contracts or crooked defense contractors I worked for — because, in all of those cases, I know I will be sued for defamation. Just as is happening to Trump in NYC.

    And I know I’ll be destroyed financially even if I win.

    I can’t save for my old age without having the value of the dollar destroyed by the Fed.

    I can’t avoid walking over homeless people and the garbage and excrement they leave on the city sidewalks, sidewalks that I and other taxpayers paid for.

    I can’t avoid paying taxes for “public” schools and universities that are actively opposed to education and learning.

    I can’t avoid paying taxes to the nasty little murderous proxy regimes the US is arming in Ukraine and Israel.

    I can’t avoid paying taxes to sexually mutilate children who are confused about their “gender” — this is happening now at California state-funded hospitals at UCSF and UCLA.

    In fact, I can’t avoid paying taxes for a few thousand purposes that offend my conscience.

    Oh, and I can’t start a business and hire whomever I wish, regardless of race, sexual orientation, or whether they are a male pretending to be a female.

    But, aside from that and a thousand other things I could mention… well, I can indeed engage in any sex acts with consenting adults that strike my fancy and get high through multiple chemical means.

    And I can binge watch Game of Thrones.

    And you think I am free?

    And you don’t see why I have such contempt for the state?

    You don’t see why I think this is a deeply evil society, ruled by a profoundly evil state, that cannot be allowed to survive for the sake of the human race?

    Really: have you ever read Huxley’s Brave New World?

  540. geokat62 says:

    Looking forward to Ron’s next Covid article.

    Bombshell Study: The Hearts Of Vaccinated People Have Been Massively Damaged By mRNA Vaccines!

    https://rumble.com/v48jaio-bombshell-study-the-hearts-of-vaccinated-people-have-been-massively-damaged.html

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  541. ‘…And you don’t see why I have such contempt for the state?

    You don’t see why I think this is a deeply evil society, ruled by a profoundly evil state, that cannot be allowed to survive for the sake of the human race?’

    Sure — but most of this fails to demonstrate that dispensing with the state entirely would improve matters. Yes, the state is often less than satisfactory. No, the solution isn’t to just dump it. If the drain keeps stopping up, getting rid of indoor plumbing entirely will not improve matters.

    My view tends to be that the state is a necessary evil, to be resorted to when all alternatives have been exhausted or the abuses resulting from its absence have become intolerable.

    [MORE]

    Railroads would be a rather good example. Rather than building them, the US government merely offered lavish concessions concerning the right of way, etc — and on the whole, it worked. Presto: the most extensive rail network in to world, girdling a continent.

    Then, when the abuses of the resulting corporate behemoths became too much to be borne, we sighed and imposed tariffs, etc. Well, it worked better than just doing nothing.

    Perfect anarchy would have resulted in first, delayed choo-choos, and then, second, Southern Pacific still owning the State of California.

    …but barring such cases, government should be kept as small, weak, and severely circumscribed as possible. However, you’re going to have other people exercising authority over your life. Replacing the county sheriff with the town bully won’t change that. Nor do you necessarily want the local women getting their menfolks to do something to make you take care of your front yard.

    …actually, that, in theory (and, in the recent past, in practice) is the great advantage of government. Unlike the other forms of coercion we exercise over each other, government is circumscribed. It can’t get suspicious about what you’re doing in your bedroom, decide to do something about it, and hang you from the nearest tree.

    I’d vote for circumscribing it still further (no enforcement of traffic laws, anyone?) but not for abolishing it entirely. That last is just a morbid over-reaction. If you had your precious anarchy, you’d almost immediately realize your mistake.

  542. @PhysicistDave

    …’The state is bad, like the common cold…’

    No, the common cold can go away, and you won’t miss it. You’ll miss the state the first time your neighbor helps himself to your stock of firewood and you can’t do anything about it because you are little and he is big.

    The state is bad, like a generator when the power goes out. It’s decidedly unsatifactory on a number of scores — but beats the alternative.

    …and please. Stop with this monotonous insistence that there have been ‘innumerable examples of anarchy throughout history.’ There have been very few, and almost no one wants to be Daniel Boone.

    Hell, where do you live? You want anarchy? Move to the Alaska interior. You can probably survive it. A lot of Nevada’s awfully empty — and, unlike the Alaskan interior, the weather’s not so bad. Get yourself a square-mile tract with a spring on it and knock yourself out.

    Lonely? Invite some neighbors — on the understanding that any cooperation or restraint is to be purely voluntary, of course. Hell, put up a sign at the entrance to ‘your’ (not really now, it wouldn’t be, would it?) property inviting all who wish to come on in and do as they please.

    Let me know how it plays out.

    …not that even this can work. Maybe we could have had anarchy when there were ten million Americans — once we’d exterminated all the Indians, of course.

    But now? With 350 million inhabitants? No, everyone can’t have their own square mile. I’m not even sure we can dispense with traffic cops.

  543. @PhysicistDave

    ‘You are just being silly: you just claimed that anarchy “has never actually been successfully practiced” after giving examples of what you claim to be anarchy!’

    Sure,anarchy can be practiced — by isolated hermits, who don’t mind living alone. Hermits. Daniel Boone. Maybe fur trappers.

    Is anarchy anything resembling a workable plan for a technologically advanced, multi-cultural nation of over three hundred million?

    No. It’s not a workable plan for any human group of more than about five.

    • Troll: PhysicistDave
  544. @PhysicistDave

    ‘An atheist is someone who lacks belief in a god.

    An anarchist is just someone who lacks belief in a state, who sees all governments for what they are — gangs of criminals.

    That’s all.’

    The analogy is flawed — if anything, it’s backwards.

    I lack belief in God — but I can see that it would be nice if He was there.

    I’m quite sure the state is necessary — even if I don’t particularly care for it and am all for running it off a ten amp circuit breaker and a frayed extension cord.

  545. Here’s a rather good example of the problem with anarchy — in a minor key.

    My wife and I were wandering around Idaho one summer — and we found a lake…that we could drive to! That didn’t have government campgrounds charging $15-$20 a night!

    Just pull over wherever and pitch your tent. Anarchy! For a night or two, anyway.

    And it was very pretty…from a distance. Thing was, a whole lot of people camped there. And they didn’t all bury their feces. Little mounds of dump and toilet paper everywhere. I mean everywhere.

    Anarchy in action…but with too many people.

    It just doesn’t frigging work.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  546. I fail to see why the Palestinians would make this up.

    ‘Hamas says Israeli army bombed own tank after failing to reach it
    The Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Palestinian group, said it had targeted the tank with a mortar shell.

    “An Israeli rescue unit tried to pull the tank from the location where it was targeted. Our fighters clashed with them and stopped them from advancing towards the vehicle, so the [Israeli] air force struck the tank with several rockets and completely obliterated it with everyone inside,” the Qassam Brigades said in a statement.’

  547. ‘…The opinion poll suggests that a slight majority of Israelis back a plan that would see the release of captives held in Gaza in exchange for an end to the war, a normalisation agreement between Israel and Saudi Arabia and an Israeli agreement for the eventual establishment of a demilitarised Palestinian state…’

    If it happened, that would mark at least the fourth time the Jews have ‘agreed’ to permit the establishment of a Palestinian state. They professed to accede to this in 1947, when they made peace with Egypt, and in the Oslo Accords. Now this.

    …yet, mysteriously, no Palestinian state has ever come into being.

  548. It’s not really a problem. Witness the Liberty.

    ‘.The administration of US President Joe Biden has said it is “devastated” by the killing of 17-year-old Tawfiq Ajaq in the occupied West Bank.

    According to his family, Ajaq – who was born and raised in the US state of Louisiana – was killed after Israeli forces and settlers shot live ammunition towards his car in the village al-Mazra’a al-Sharqiya…’

  549. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wrong showing once again, what a stupid man he is when he writes:

    You’ll miss the state the first time your neighbor helps himself to your stock of firewood and you can’t do anything about it because you are little and he is big.

    An ‘anarchic’ community is not one where the rule of law is absent.
    ‘Anarchy’, in the context used by Anarcho-Capitalists, means NO CENTRALISED STATE APPARATUS.
    In the absence of that, local communities will organise their own law enforcement. ie: hire private security, perhaps supplemented by a select group of trusted individuals, a militia of sorts that is well armed.
    The beauty of hiring private security is that you’ll expect results, you’ll expect them to do their job.
    If they’re corrupt, or show up half and hour late when called etc, their services will be terminated and you’ll hire a more efficient private security firm.
    That is NOT the case today. If your state police officer or local FBI are incompetent, you have no recourse. They’re here to stay delivering a sub-standard service.

    In relation to other services presently provided by the ‘state’, let’s say the building of roads or supplying electricity for example, local communities will gather and elect representatives that will shop around and get the best deal for said community.
    So, in that regard, there will be a ‘government’ of sorts, in the sense that these local community members are entrusted with a particular task. If they don’t perform, a local Town Hall gathering will be convened on a few days notice, and they’ll be fired on the spot and replaced by more competent individuals.
    This is a MUCH BETTER system than we have now, where the local Congressional representative, when told by his constituents not to vote for more money to be sent to the Judeo-Ukrainian regime of Zelensky or to the Apartheid Israel state, does the opposite and then the citizenry need to wait a couple of years for the next election before they can vote him out.

    So, in the case of the community representative(s) entrusted with providing electricity, they”ll shop around and track down the best deal with a utility company.
    If all the utility companies charge like a wounded bull, he can interact with the representatives of other local communities that are entrusted with the task of electricity supply, and between say 5-6 neighbouring counties/villages, they could collectively raise the funds to build their own power station if it made economic sense to to pursue that alternative.

    Importantly, seeing as a power station needs to be large enough and provide a certain number of Mwh of output to provide economies of scale, and since said local communities may still not need that much power generation, these communities could attract a large corporation that was energy intensive and guarantee them a low electricity rate, thus being able to make the building of the power station viable.

    The is a Win/Win for the local communities because it also provides employment for its constituents.
    Needless to say, everything I mentioned in relation to the electricity supply is equally applicable in the case of provision of roads.
    Yes, any particular small community doesn’t have the financial wherewithal to build an 8 lane (4 lanes each way) highway 50 miles long. But it doesn’t have to.
    It need only raise the funds to build the 1 or 2 mile stretch that passes through its territory, and it will levy a toll to compensate for money outlaid. Other adjacent communities will do likewise.
    Which is not to say that vehicles need to stop and pay a toll every mile or so, and thus disrupt traffic flow.
    Something can be arranged between the communities whereby there is only ONE toll point per 10 miles of highway, and the revenue generated is shared between several communities.

    Colin Wrong come up with ‘Asinine assertion of the Week’ when he writes:

    The state is bad …. It’s decidedly unsatisfactory on a number of scores — but beats the alternative.

    The reality is that nearly every other alternative to the ‘state’ is infinitely better.
    Keeping it local and decentralised means that far less of the taxpayers income is wasted on grandiose boondoggles and bureaucracy. Local communities are far better able to track down where the money goes, ensuring precious little is squandered.

    End Result: These small principalities are invariably more prosperous and peaceful. Real wold examples in Europe like Switzerland, Luxembourg, Leichtenstein and Monaco are testament to that.
    That’s right, these are ACTUAL examples of ‘small is better’.

    It not only works, it works spectacularly well.

  550. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…States prefer to fight other states. Anarchies are tar babies.’

    That would explain the reluctance of the European powers to colonize North America.

    …all those innumerable and fractious Indian tribes…too much like anarchy.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  551. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    Maybe we could have had anarchy when there were ten million Americans — once we’d exterminated all the Indians, of course.

    But now? With 350 million inhabitants? No, everyone can’t have their own square mile. I’m not even sure we can dispense with traffic cops.

    Well, that’s easy to solve!

    Break the Union up into its fifty separate states, like when the USSR collapsed. Gonna happen someday, you know — the current federal government is bankrupt.

    And then break up each state into its constituent counties.

    And dissolve each county into its individual municipalities.

    And then break up each municipality into its separate neighborhoods.

    And then let each neighborhood decide if they want a government or not.

    No more monstrously ungovernable “country” of over 300 million people.

    Just human communities on a human scale.

    See? Fixed it for ya!

    Colin also wrote:

    Stop with this monotonous insistence that there have been ‘innumerable examples of anarchy throughout history.’

    But there actually have been — anthropologists have documented countless examples in historic times. And, of course, Ireland and Iceland were each functioning anarchies for extended periods in the Middle Ages — you might try reading up on all that.

    Colin also wrote:

    You’ll miss the state the first time your neighbor helps himself to your stock of firewood and you can’t do anything about it because you are little and he is big.

    My neighbors don’t do things like that. And, no, it is not because they are afraid of the state. It is because we are all decent human beings.

    You seem really afraid of your neighbors for some reasons. You live among a bunch of thieves?

    And, if someone does “steal my firewood,” I am not relying on me being bigger than him.

    We have in fact had cases in our neighborhood of outsiders behaving questionably. We have in fact worked together to deal with them. That’s how Americans behave.

    I take it you don’t have much sense of American values like neighborliness, eh? You must live in a pretty rotten place.

    And you really think you can rely on the state of all people to protect you?????

    I documented from the UCLA campus paper above what happened to my daughter when she reported to the campus police the assault against here, crimes to which the assailant freely confessed.

    My daughter was punished; the self-confessed criminal was let off scot-free. One of the cops who showed up actually threatened to arrest my daughter if she pressed charges, even though my daughter was the one who called the cops in the middle of the assault, my daughter was clearly injured (broken bone in her finger), and my daughter had had her property destroyed by the self-confessed criminal.

    And you think these people will protect you????

    Only if you are a violent criminal!

    Again, in my own experience: a few years ago, I rode my bike over to Sac State here in Sacramento: I locked it to a bike rack and went into the library. When I came out, the bike had been stolen.

    When I tried to report the theft to the campus police, they not only declined to investigate, they would not even take the crime report so that I could report it to my insurance company.

    But don’t take my own family’s experience as evidence: just watch the national news. Again and again, people who defend themselves against violent thugs get prosecuted by the legal system.

    The government of the United States of America, at all levels, is now an evil, stinking, putrefying carcass, a Frankenstein monster that needs to have a stake driven through its heart.

    You know, I know — everyone knows — that government exists to seize resources from the productive members of society and hand the loot over to the members of the government and their hangers on. Everyone knows this, but we are just not supposed to say it out loud, just as we are not supposed to tell the kiddies that Santa is not real, and we are not supposed to tell Christians that, no, the Virgin Mary was not really a virgin.

    Let me guess, Colin: are you one of those who has been a recipient of some of that loot?

    Most Americans still believe, for some unfathomable reason, that they must have a government, and so a government they will have. And I certainly cannot change their mind in the next month or the next year.

    I do not know if the empty husk that is the American government will last another decade or another century.

    But I can do what I can to tell the truth. It would be better for that government to be annihilated in a hundred years than in five hundred years, better in fifty years than in a hundred, and, yes, better that it ends in five years rather than in fifty.

    Whatever cannot go on forever, won’t. This government will not forever have its boot digging into the face of the American people.

    Join with me and tell the truth: this government, like all governments, exists to seize resources from the producers and hand those resources over to the members of the government and its hangers on.

    You too can start telling the truth. Unless of course you are one of those who has been receiving the loot.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  552. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘…But the Zionist lobby consists mainly of Gentiles — specifically, Christian Evangelicals: read Mearsheimer and Walt’s book…’

    [Colin] This is a bit like pointing out that most of those who actually carried out the Holocaust were Ukrainians.

    Many were, weren’t they? And the thug behind it was a Georgian, wasn’t he?

    The Holodomor was not a specifically Russian crime: it was a Communist crime.

    Colin also wrote:

    Look up Paul Singer and CUFI. Certainly Evangelicals supply a lot of demographic horsepower; the Jews have learned to manipulate their bigotry and ignorance.

    Is it your position that Israel would have come into being even absent the voice of American Jewry?

    You really need to read Shlomo Sand’s The Invention of the Land of Israel: From Holy Land to Homeland! The bizarrely idiotic and ahistorical idea of the Jews “returning” to “Israel” was in fact largely an invention of crack-pot Evangelicals in the UK.

    Prior to the Holocaust, very few Jews actually chose to make aliyah.

    And as later as 1960, there was considerable skepticism among American Jews towards Zionist imperialism.

    As to your specific question, yes, of course, Israel could have come into existence without American Jewry, though not perhaps without American Evangelicals.

    Historians have dug into this in some detail. The monster Harry Truman’s advisors were largely against the US backing the creation of a Jewish state. But evil little Harry was an Evangelical, specifically a Southern Baptist, and just could not help himself.

    As I have said, I grew up attending a Southern Baptist church, though I refused to ever be baptized, to “accept Jesus as Lord and Savior,” or to join the church. I know these people.

    I take it you don’t?

    No, they don’t need any manipulation by any nefarious American Jewry to favor a Jewish state, a rebuilt Temple on the Temple Mount (which would of course mean tearing down the Al-Aqsa Mosque — that is going to work out well!), and then the final battle of Armageddon in which pretty much all the Jews die. All to hasten the Second Coming of their demented dead rabbi.

    Talk to some of these people. Learn some actual history.

    It really is a lot crazier than just some nefarious Jews.

    A whole lot crazier.

  553. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    And it was very pretty…from a distance. Thing was, a whole lot of people camped there. And they didn’t all bury their feces. Little mounds of dump and toilet paper everywhere. I mean everywhere.

    Anarchy in action…but with too many people.

    It just doesn’t frigging work.

    Lack of property rights. Tragedy of the commons.

    Locke pointed out the solution in the Second Treatise. Try reading it.

    Or just about any decent economics text on property rights, negative externalities, etc. written during the last sixty years.

    Property rights are natural rights, an extension of one’s natural liberty to control one’s own body. Again, read Locke. Or Rothbard’s Ethics of Liberty. Most human beings in most societies most of the time have been willing to respect others’ property.

    Why? Because society cannot otherwise function. On a more personal level, guys who keep stealing or destroying other people’s property tend to end up dead. At least in any sane society. Not in ours, of course, but we live in a society that should not be allowed to survive and cannot be allowed to survive for the good of the human race.

    Communist anarchy will certainly not work. They are welcome to try it, of course, as long as they leave me and my property — and similarly for my neighbors and their property– alone.

    And if they won’t?

    Neighborhood barbecue time!! Roast a Commie for dinner!

    Yum! Roasted Commie!

    Sometimes, you just have to make an example.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  554. @geokat62

    Yes Geokat, such an article is long overdue.
    We can no longer ignore the monumental collateral damage caused by the Covid clot shots.
    For those of you that have forgotten, here’s a reminder (2 min video):

    Early in the clip, British sports commentator Shaka Hislop tells everyone he’s been vaxxed-to-the-max and advises that others do likewise. Well, as the video demonstrates, that didn’t end well for him.
    Similarly, LeBron James gives the same advice – advice which his son Bronny James heeded.

    Too bad for young Bronny. When an 18 year old suffers cardiac arrest after being jabbed, this is not exactly the ‘safe and effective’ outcome that Big Pharma and the corrupt Health bureaucracies promised us.

  555. ‘Israelis woke up Tuesday morning to the devastating news that 21 soldiers died Monday in the IDF’s single deadliest incident so far in the Gaza war. Our Susan Greene is on the ground in Tel Aviv.

    The story: People were struggling to understand whether an Israeli mine caused the collapse of structures that killed 19 of those reservists, or whether the buildings were destroyed by a Palestinian rocket-propelled grenade. An IDF spokesman said the grenade simultaneously hit an Israeli tank, killing two Israeli soldiers inside. Three other soldiers died Monday in a separate incident…’

    Haaretz

  556. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Many were, weren’t they? And the thug behind it was a Georgian, wasn’t he?

    The Holodomor was not a specifically Russian crime: it was a Communist crime…’

    ? I didn’t refer to this at all.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  557. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    You really need to read Shlomo Sand’s The Invention of the Land of Israel: From Holy Land to Homeland! The bizarrely idiotic and ahistorical idea of the Jews “returning” to “Israel” was in fact largely an invention of crack-pot Evangelicals in the UK.

    I’d read Sand’s 2009 book about a dozen years ago and hadn’t been very impressed, but I reread it earlier this month and found much of his material extremely interesting and persuasive. In fact, I’m using it as a major element of my next article, which is now almost finished.

    However, I’m extremely skeptical that Evangelicals or Christian Zionists had any significant connection with Jewish Zionism, which was an entirely different movement, with entirely different figures. At most, some of those Gentiles might have been used as allies or “useful idiots” by the Zionist leaders.

    Take, for example, the notorious belief among Israel’s Orthodox rabbinate, who have become increasingly powerful over the decades, that all churches in Palestinel need to be destroyed and the entire Holy Land totally cleansed of any accursed Christian taint. I’d be quite surprised if the Evangelicals or any remaining Christian Zionists would be happy about this:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

  558. bjondo says:

    For those snowed in and time on their hands:

    Simon Shack’s September Clues, Mexican Amiqo

    SEPTEMBER CLUES: Simon Shack’s 9/11 CGI MOVIE MAGIC Documentary: “TV’s 9/11 Was A MASSIVE FRAUD”

    https://rumble.com/v3e4pw0-911-cgi-movie-magic-simon-shacks-groundbreaking-september-clues-tvs-911-was.html

    #septemberclues

    https://www.bitchute.com/hashtag/septemberclues/

    21 Years Later – Simon Shack on 9/11 and September Clues | Fakeologist 12 September 2022

    https://www.thevoid.uk/void-post/21-years-later-simon-shack-on-9-11-and-september-clues-fakeologist/

    5ds

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  559. @Ron Unz

    ‘…However, I’m extremely skeptical that Evangelicals or Christian Zionists had any significant connection with Jewish Zionism, which was an entirely different movement, with entirely different figures. At most, some of those Gentiles might have been used as allies or “useful idiots” by the Zionist leaders…’

    Largely, I’d agree. However, I’ll point out two motives for Christian Zionism that I feel are both significant and overlooked.

    First, fervent Christians are starved for anything of religious significance in the modern world. I mean, you can only carry on about abortion for so many days in the week. Unlike virtually every other state in the world, Israel can be seen as somehow religiously meaningful. Of course, it’s actually an abomination and a travesty — but Evangelicals see it differently. Here’s something they can get fervent about!

    And boy, do they.

    Secondly, I also think everyone (or most of us) needs to hate. We have to have enemies — if not the neighboring tribe, somebody. Well, fall in love with Israel, and you’ve got your enemies: loathsome, cowardly, sexually menacing Arabs. You can’t hate blacks anymore — but you can hate Arabs.

    Notice the conspicuous lack of criticism in many quarters as Israel engages in the greatest atrocity committed by a First World state since the Second World War. A lot of people like it — ‘Christian’ people, I suspect.

    It’s obscene — but there it is.

  560. @bjondo

    Bjondo, I would be very cautious if I were you, before accepting anything this Simon Shack bloke said.
    All the 9/11 researchers I follow, ALL OF WHOM have unimpeachable integrity, are individuals about whom we have a multi-decade history. ie: people like Christopher Bollyn, USMC Lt-Col (ret) Field McConnell, Dr Kevin Barrett, lead entities within the AE9/11Truth organisation, Col. Robert Bowman etc.
    ALL of them, without exception, were courageous* individuals that exposed government lies.
    (McConnell, Bollyn and Barrett have felt the wrath of ZOG and have been punished severely.
    These people have REAL SKIN IN THE GAME.
    Their exposures on the 9/11 False Flag were sooooo damaging to ZOG, that the Talmudists went out of their way to destroy them. That’s all the proof you need that they were right over the target.
    Not so with Simon Shack. As far as I’m aware he has suffered no repercussions from ZOG.

    NONE of these individuals I’ve mentioned have ties to/or a work background affiliated with ZOG controlled subversive USG three letter agencies.
    And NONE of them make mention of Simon Shack (while all are in unison in asserting that REAL planes struck the WTC building and the Pentagon).

    My question(s) to you Bjondo are:

    1) WHO is this Shack bloke ?
    2) WHAT is his work history ?
    3) Has he EVER demonstrated in the past that he’s a truth teller out to expose establishment malfeasance? (ie: was campaigning against the government lies relating to Saddam’s alleged WMD’s during the 2004 Iraq War ? Was he exposing the lies of the media relating to the Ukraine proxy war ? Was he awake during the Covid Psyop and preaching truth about the deadly experimental mRNA gene therapies that masquerade as vaccines ?
    I suspect that the answer is NO in in all cases.

    SUMMARY: This Simon Shack bloke came out of nowhere. We don’t know if he’s a member of the (((tribe))), we don’t know if a CIA asset or some other minion in the employ of ZOG.

    I didn’t watch the entirety of your video, just skimmed through it. (I’ve seen many of the clips before). Just bear in mind that many of those video clips you question, may well have been ‘doctored’ to achieve the desired effect, to make people like you believe that there were no planes.
    Remember, ZOG masterminded/orchestrated/funded the 9/11 False Flag. These people have untold trillions at their disposal, not to mention the special effect departments of the ZOG owned Hollywood movie industry.
    Needless to say they would have employed those resources to produce some plausible appearing hoax videos to manipulate the citizenry.

    BTW, I’ve noticed that you end your remarks with ‘5ds’. What does that mean ?

    • Replies: @bjondo
  561. Ron Unz says:

    First, fervent Christians are starved for anything of religious significance in the modern world…

    Secondly, I also think everyone (or most of us) needs to hate. We have to have enemies — if not the neighboring tribe, somebody. Well, fall in love with Israel, and you’ve got your enemies: loathsome, cowardly, sexually menacing Arabs. You can’t hate blacks anymore — but you can hate Arabs.

    Sure, it’s actually been pretty obvious to me for decades what’s been going on, though I’ve never been sure how many people notice it.

    Over the last few decades, Jewish activists have used a variety of different means to totally suppress both public religious sentiments and “nationalistic” sentiments among America’s 98% Gentile majority (with some exceptions, especially tightly bound immigrant communities).

    So, for example, Russian society publicly celebrates Christianity in a way Americans are not allowed to do, and nearly all populations around the world can celebrate their ethnic nationalism in ways that would get most Americans immediately purged or fired.

    It’s obviously in the interests of one particular ethnic/religious group to suppress the ethnic or religious sentiments of all of its rivals.

    For example, I was absolutely shocked to recently discover that according to a large Pew survey, American Jews these days are actually slightly more religious than the general American population, a stunning change from generations of Jews being notoriously secular. The obvious reason for this is the massive amount of pro-Jewish media propaganda coupled with anti-Christian media propaganda.

    Meanwhile, a secondary-benefit of this situation for Jews is that those non-Jews who have strong religious or nationalistic sentiments are often diverted into supporting Jews or Jewish nationalism (Zionism) as one of the very few media-approved outlets for such attitudes.

    That’s why the “cuck” slur that began a few years ago always seemed to appropriate to me, though virtually none of the people using it dared properly explain it’s most obvious example.

    Although the analogy is necessarily a rough one, this situation seems pretty similar to the examples of parasitic castration widely found in nature.

  562. @Ron Unz

    Ron Unz wrote to me:

    However, I’m extremely skeptical that Evangelicals or Christian Zionists had any significant connection with Jewish Zionism, which was an entirely different movement, with entirely different figures.

    Well, as far as I can tell, the single greatest impetus for Jewish Zionism was the progroms in Russia in the 1880s. Aside from that, the rise of nationalism as an ideology did infect some Jews, especially in Central and Eastern Europe, where nationalism had more of an ethno-religious tinge than in Western Europe. E.g., if being truly Polish meant being Catholic, this was obviously a problem for Jews in Poland. Of course, the later experience with Nazism also did have a major impact.

    There also was significant opposition among many religious Jews to Zionism for a long time: many viewed it as a distraction or perversion from authentic rabbinic Talmudic Judaism. Considering that Zionists tended to be secularists, commonly socialists, this opposition made a lot of sense.

    Even when I was a young kid back in mid-century, I remember hearing about the American Council for Judaism, which opposed Zionism. From Wikipedia:

    The American Council for Judaism (ACJ) is an organization of American Jews committed to the proposition that Jews are not a national but a religious group, adhering to the original stated principles of Reform Judaism, as articulated in the 1885 Pittsburgh Platform. In particular, it is notable for its historical opposition to Zionism. Although it has since moderated its stance on the issue, it still advocates that American Jews distance themselves from Israel politically, and does not view Israel as a universal Jewish homeland.

    The sea change seems to have come with the Six-Day War: I am a few years older than you, and I remember the huge media frenzy then that infected both American Christians and Jews when the war occurred. Even in 1967, I suppose I was precociously skeptical towards Zionism: I remember talking with my dad during the war, with me having trouble seeing why it mattered that people half-way around the world were killing each other.

    As I have said, at the time I was immersed in this milieu about the Jews rebuilding the Temple to bring about the Second Coming, all of which I found… entertaining.

    As to who used whom as useful idiots, a case can be made that Jewish Zionists were being used by the Christian Zionists who wanted to kick Jews out of Europe and who wanted to bring about the Second Coming. It’s a bit like asking which hand actually makes the noise when you clap with two hands, I suppose.

    Have you read both of Sand’s books — both The Invention of the Jewish People and The Invention of the Land of Israel ? They are complementary.

    Ron also wrote:

    Take, for example, the notorious belief among Israel’s Orthodox rabbinate, who have become increasingly powerful over the decades, that all churches in Palestinel need to be destroyed and the entire Holy Land totally cleansed of any accursed Christian taint. I’d be quite surprised if the Evangelicals or any remaining Christian Zionists would be happy about this:

    I’m not so sure, even if they knew about it, which of course very few of them do.

    After all, this is all about the Second Coming! The Holy Land is going to be pretty much destroyed in the Battle of Armageddon anyway, so who would want to have churches there in any case?

    It’s hard to convey to people who were not immersed in that background, as I was, that these people really do quite fervently believe this.

    I did know a young woman a decade ago who went with some friends from her church to Israel to proselytize: they were doing so surreptitiously and were well aware that they were breaking the law.

    And my Israeli friend at Stanford, who, by and large, was a pretty open-minded guy, once told me that if his sister converted to Christianity, he would disown her.

    But most Evangelicals really don’t know about all this, and, knowing them as I do, I really think they would not care if they did know.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  563. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    ? I didn’t refer to this at all.

    Obviously, I mixed up the Holocaust with the Holodomor — the second being especially relevant for Ukrainians.

    So many mass murders in the twentieth century — from the Armenian genocide to the incineration of the innocent civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki to the “killing fields” in Cambodia! You see why I have a certain allergic reaction to the state.

  564. Chebyshev says:
    @Ron Unz

    Over the last few decades, Jewish activists have used a variety of different means to totally suppress both public religious sentiments and “nationalistic” sentiments among America’s 98% Gentile majority (with some exceptions, especially tightly bound immigrant communities).

    So, for example, Russian society publicly celebrates Christianity in a way Americans are not allowed to do, and nearly all populations around the world can celebrate their ethnic nationalism in ways that would get most Americans immediately purged or fired.

    I’ve read that the Jewish campaign, via the ACLU, to eliminate Christian displays from public spaces began in the 60s. In 1960, as you wrote in one of your articles, JFK was outraged that Zionist Jews offered to fund his campaign in exchange for their taking control of Middle East policy. Maybe Christian politicians were more willing to resist Zionist influence back in the day because Christianity was a core component of the American culture at that time.

    And today, yes, Anglo-Celtic Americans publicly celebrating their heritage is totally out of bounds. That’s the main reason no one has confronted the Ivies and demanded that they admit more high-performing Anglo kids. I think the further you go towards the Mediterranean among European ethnicities, the more it’s okay to celebrate your heritage.

    For example, I was absolutely shocked to recently discover that according to a large Pew survey, American Jews these days are actually slightly more religious than the general American population, a stunning change from generations of Jews being notoriously secular. The obvious reason for this is the massive amount of pro-Jewish media propaganda coupled with anti-Christian media propaganda.

    That’s interesting. Do you think Jews have become more religious because of movies about the Holocaust or sitcoms like Curb Your Enthusiasm, in which the main character goes to temple on at least one occasion? Or would this rise in Jewish religiosity be due to other sorts of media propaganda?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @ginger bread man
  565. Ron Unz says:
    @Chebyshev

    That’s interesting. Do you think Jews have become more religious because of movies about the Holocaust or sitcoms like Curb Your Enthusiasm, in which the main character goes to temple on at least one occasion? Or would this rise in Jewish religiosity be due to other sorts of media propaganda?

    Hard to say. There seems to be such a gigantic amount of pro-Jewish and anti-Christian media propaganda that it’s difficult to know which elements are the most important, and I’d assume they vary with regard to different individuals.

    For example, the public display of privately-funded Christian Nativity scenes have been banned everywhere on First Amendment grounds, while the White House puts up a huge annual Jewish Menorah.

    Meanwhile, the Catholic Church has been endlessly vilified for protecting its relatively small number of pedophile priests, while rather similar cases of rampant pedophilia among Jewish rabbis have been totally ignored by the media.

    A few years ago, the media glorified the Jewish-funded Pussy Riot activists who proudly desecrated Christian churches around the world, but anyone who tried something like that against Jewish synagogues would have been demonized by the media and then probably spent the rest of their lives in prison.

    Given the power of the media, it’s hardly surprising that Gentiles have been shifting away from Christianity, while Jews have been moving towards Judaism.

    There’s an old joke of a 1930s Communist bragging to a Nazi that his country enjoyed vastly greater political freedom. “If any German stands up and denounces Hitler, he’s immediately dragged off to prison, while here in the USSR, we can denounce Hitler as much as we want with no legal repercussions.”

    • Replies: @Chebyshev
  566. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Have you read both of Sand’s books — both The Invention of the Jewish People and The Invention of the Land of Israel? They are complementary.

    Thanks, I hadn’t been aware of Sand’s second book, so I’ve now gone ahead and ordered it.

    Well, as far as I can tell, the single greatest impetus for Jewish Zionism was the progroms in Russia in the 1880s.

    I think you’re probably correct. But here’s a long article that makes a persuasive case that the stories of the 1880s pogroms were so wildly exaggerated as to be almost fraudulent:

    https://www.unz.com/article/myth-and-the-russian-pogroms/

    Here’s a crude analogy. The LA Watts Riots of the late 1960s obviously happened and were real. But suppose they had prompted one-third of the entire white population of California to flee the state and move to Canada on the grounds that the huge massacres of whites indicated that they faced total extermination. Surely, that would have been a very strange development.

    During the course of the previous century, the Jewish population of Russia had undergone one of the greatest population explosions in world history, increasing perhaps as much as ten-fold in about 100 years. This produced a great deal of economic misery since the Jews had completely outgrown their traditional middle-man employment niches and refused to enter agriculture or other primary producer roles. So there’s some evidence that the Jewish press enormously exaggerated the 1880s riots in order to persuade Britain and other countries to open their doors to heavy Jewish immigration, thereby providing a relief-valve for such huge Jewish overpopulation.

    As to who used whom as useful idiots, a case can be made that Jewish Zionists were being used by the Christian Zionists who wanted to kick Jews out of Europe and who wanted to bring about the Second Coming.

    But I think the Christian Zionists were only found in America and to some small extent in Britain. Meanwhile, probably 98% of the Jews in Europe lived in other countries, in which there were almost no Christian Zionists. However, the Nazis did indeed want to kick the Jews out of Europe, and they formed a 1930s alliance with the Zionists to do so.

  567. @Ron Unz

    ‘…For example, I was absolutely shocked to recently discover that according to a large Pew survey, American Jews these days are actually slightly more religious than the general American population, a stunning change from generations of Jews being notoriously secular. The obvious reason for this is the massive amount of pro-Jewish media propaganda coupled with anti-Christian media propaganda…’

    There’s also the more mundane explanation that religious Jews have been breeding like rabbits while Jewus Secularis is simply failing to reproduce. How many natural children do you, Paul Krugman, and Phillip Weiss have between you? At a guess, not six.

    This isn’t to say that there hasn’t been a determined attack by Jews on expressions of Christianity in public life; it’s just that I don’t think the connection you perceive is there. American Jews who are part of the mainstream have been abandoning their faith as well.

    • Replies: @Chebyshev
  568. bjondo says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Truth Vigilante, I have no clue but will consider. Certainly could be an op like Baker.

    If you have time to kill:

    ”TOUR GUIDE” to the September Clues research

    https://fakeologist.com/september-clues-tour-guide/

    “TOUR GUIDE” to the September Clues research simonshack Nov 15, 20updated on May 12, 2013

    https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p=2346197#p2346197

    Some info blocked by this computer I am borrowing.

    5ds (info for me)

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  569. Chebyshev says:
    @Ron Unz

    For example, the public display of privately-funded Christian Nativity scenes have been banned everywhere on First Amendment grounds, while the White House puts up a huge annual Jewish Menorah.

    While nativity scenes are banned, Christmas trees are very much allowed, though those really aren’t Christian, per se. Many Jews must feel beleaguered by the inundation of Christmas trees and other similar decorations every December, but those really aren’t religiously Christian items. This post, by a probably Jewish Cornell student might be representative of many Jews’ feelings:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/C0kArQ6uk3h/?igsh=N2NlcHFmdXR4ajJ3

    Are there many more crosses in neutral locations during the Holidays than menorahs? That’s harder to say.

  570. @Ron Unz

    ‘I think you’re probably correct. But here’s a long article that makes a persuasive case that the stories of the 1880s pogroms were so wildly exaggerated as to be almost fraudulent:

    https://www.unz.com/article/myth-and-the-russian-pogroms/

    My impression is that the ‘pogrom’ schtick was close to fraudulent. Jews in Eastern Europe were having a decided demographic crisis; there were coming to be just way too many to subsist on the rather limited sources of income they permitted themselves. Luftmenschen — men who apparently subsisted on nothing but air — were coming to be a real class of people. Desperately impoverished Jewish women were routinely exported from Lithuania to Argentina with promises of a future husband and forced into prostitution once there. The ordinary mechanisms of charity, of an adequate supply of eligible bachelors affluent enough to be able to marry and support a family were simply proving incapable of meeting the demographic surge.

    …and in general, Jews were simply overflowing out of the Pale into Western Europe, the rest of Russia, America — anywhere it might be possible to make a living. So almost instinctively, they and their partisans started claiming they were being driven out by violence. It served to justify their arrival.

    Some of the violence was real; but it wasn’t why the Jews were leaving. The violence was exaggerated and used to obscure the more mundane motive of poverty.

  571. Chebyshev says:
    @Colin Wright

    There’s also the more mundane explanation that religious Jews have been breeding like rabbits while Jewus Secularis is simply failing to reproduce.

    But the 2020 Pew survey found that both secularism and Orthodoxy were more common among younger Jewish adults than Jewish adults overall. So, the rise in Jewish religiosity relative to Christians isn’t due to high Orthodox fertility.

  572. @Ron Unz

    Question for Ron:

    Ron seems to imply that the increased religiosity among Jews is due to Jews “becoming” more religious over time. As though secular Jews woke up one morning and decided to begin believing in God. While this is true, to a degree, can we estimate what percent of the increase in Jewish religiosity is due to this factor versus being attributed merely to demographic trends — i.e. Chabad and Hasidic Jews having 9-10 children each, as opposed to the Zabar’s-loving, Seinfeld-watching, assimilated and intermarried Jewish population having 1-2 kids each, if any at all.

    The graph you link to from the Pew Survey shows the percentage of American Orthodox Jews skyrocketing from 3% in the 65+ age cohort (which is an overestimate because a lot more non-religious in the 65+ are likely to identify as orthodox for reasons such as ‘growing up in Brooklyn, they had an “orthodox” bar mitzvah’) to over 15% in the youth cohort. I doubt this is due to young people “flipping” from secularity and adopting religious orthodoxy, rather it speaks to a remarkable growth in the once tiny religious sector.

    I remember reading once (possibly in this book) that way back in the 1980s, Jewish women had the lowest fertility of any population subgroup in America and any country on earth. It was something like a birth rate of 0.45 children per woman, which is low even compared to countries like Japan and Korea, which have 0.8 and 1.1 children per woman.

    Jews as a group possessing remarkable demographic indicators (higher/lower birth rates than the surrounding population, differential population age structures and longevity, etc) is something long noted by Jewish population specialists.

    For instance, a remarkable pattern found within Jewish populations — shared with me by a preeminent Jewish population researcher — is that Jewish women tend to experience changes in fertility behavior sooner, more rapidly, and to a greater degree than the surrounding non-Jewish population.

    One example of this is the Jewish Fertility Decline in France. Quoting historian Paula Hyman:

    “Within Western and Central European Countries, the Jews occupy the same position as France vis-à-vis Europe, that is, they, too, are “remarkable forerunners of fertility decline.”

    To give some background, France underwent the ‘first demographic transition’ — roughly defined as the transitional period where populations shift from high fertility & high infant mortality to low fertility & low infant mortality — between roughly 1830 and 1890, and French women went from roughly 4 kids to 2 kids per woman. The Jewish community on the other hand, began reducing fertility in the 1790s thru the 1820s, and did so from 5 kids to 1.75 kids per woman. So a greater magnitude of decline, an earlier decline, and a more rapid pace of decline.

    This trend, according to my Jewish demography expert friend, has been observed in all countries that have underwent demographic transitions no matter where. Jews are “forerunners” of greater society-wide shifts in fertility, mortality, and aging. No one is really sure why.

    Anyhow, the point germane to Ron’s original comment is that Secular Jewish women are having 0-1 child, whereas Jewish religious women are now having 5+ children. Perhaps this portends a future in 20 years or so where hyper religious communities such as Amish and Mormons make up a larger share of the population, reversing previous trends.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  573. This 0ne’s fun.

  574. Looks like Andrew Tate reads Ron Unz

  575. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Why? Because society cannot otherwise function. On a more personal level, guys who keep stealing or destroying other people’s property tend to end up dead. At least in any sane society. Not in ours, of course, but we live in a society that should not be allowed to survive and cannot be allowed to survive for the good of the human race.

    Communist anarchy will certainly not work. They are welcome to try it, of course, as long as they leave me and my property — and similarly for my neighbors and their property– alone.

    And if they won’t?

    Neighborhood barbecue time!! Roast a Commie for dinner!

    Yum! Roasted Commie!

    Sometimes, you just have to make an example.’

    ‘It is magnificent, but it is not war’

    What you describe is mighty fine — and indeed, it is the way most healthy societies function — but it is not anarchy. Anarchy means my neighbors have no say in what I do or how I conduct my affairs. How are you planning to get them to help secure your property rights but ignore what you see fit to do in the privacy of your own home?

    That doesn’t happen, it never has happened, and it isn’t going to happen.

    You condemn Communists — but you make exactly the same error they do. They have a beautiful vision of all goods being shared in common and produced by all — that fails on the very nature of humanity. You do the same. You see all rushing to your aid — but only when you want them to. That’s not going to happen either. People are no more suited to realizing that than they are to realizing the utopia of the Communists.

    [MORE]

    I have to confess to mixed feelings about all this. I used to be an anarchist — I still am, if it could be confined to perfect liberty for myself alone. I used to joke, ‘anarchy for me and fascism for everybody else.’

    And that’s really what you’re advocating. You want everyone to live as you see fit. What if my standards are different? Can I put them into practice? What I feel you should share the harvest with others? What if I think everyone should be in church on Sundays? What if I think sex with my grandchildren is just fine? What if I think I need your plow and you don’t — so I’m going to take it? What if the property is distributed very unfairly? Should you really get to enjoy your broad acres while my children have to forage in the ditches for nettles? You cannot proclaim an order that suits you and label it ‘anarchy.’

    I know other people, and I know perfectly well what will happen if not only I, but they get to do as they see fit. I’m not about to experiment with letting them have their way without restriction. You can let me off the leash if you like — but not everybody. That, I don’t want to see.

    You referred to Locke. He said ‘that government governs best which governs least’ — not ‘that government governs best which isn’t there at all.’ Government is a necessary evil, required by our very nature — our intolerance, our greed, our self-serving perspective.

    We can’t live without it. It would be nice if we could — but we can’t. Or rather, in its perfect absence, things will promptly get worse, not better. All we can do is restrict it as far as possible: confine its jurisdiction, limit its powers, see if the system can somehow be tweaked so that people will perform at least some of its functions on their own.

    …and you do need a system. You can’t have anarchy, and you wouldn’t like it if it were attempted.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  576. @ginger bread man

    ‘…Anyhow, the point germane to Ron’s original comment is that Secular Jewish women are having 0-1 child, whereas Jewish religious women are now having 5+ children. Perhaps this portends a future in 20 years or so where hyper religious communities such as Amish and Mormons make up a larger share of the population, reversing previous trends.’

    The oppressive thing about this is that not only are Mormons going to take over America; we’re going to want them to.

    They beat the alternatives, when all is said and done. I mean, the Amish are cute, but don’t you really want to be able to have a car? A cell phone?

    But Jesus, it’s going to be dull…

    Just the thought makes me want to go have a drink.

  577. Yevardian says:
    @Ron Unz

    Thanks, I hadn’t been aware of Sand’s second book, so I’ve now gone ahead and ordered it.

    A very large if not overwhelmingly proportion of Sand’s arguments The Invention of the Land of Israel come through the archaeologist and bible-history revisionist, Israel Finkelstein, so I’d recommend going to the source in that regard.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  578. @Chebyshev

    My theory is that a byproduct of Jews promoting multiculturalism and the erosion of an America rooted in Western, Christian cultural norms — what leftists decry as ‘whiteness’ — is that Judaism as a religion became an attractive, positive cultural identity choice for young Jews.

    Formerly Jews looking to “make it” in America had to disavow or at least give up the backwards religion of their immigrant ancestors.

    Noam Chomsky, Richard Feynman, Carl Sagan and many other intellectual geniuses of the 20th century have descendants who identify as religious Jews, despite their predecessors vehement opposition to the Jewish religion.

    Also, the messianic Zionist fervor following the 1967 six day war made young American Jews feel as through they could more fully embrace their Jewish identity without disavowing the religion.

  579. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Now… outside of issues involving Israel and the Jews themselves, say, abortion, the Zionist lobby most assuredly does not rule the roost, mainly because it is not unified on most other issues — e.g., Jews tend to be pro-abortion, Evangelicals anti…’

    Well, you’ll note that actually, the United States has some of more liberal abortion laws on the planet — and the Jews would argue that we’re backsliding.

    …or do you want to argue that all those ‘our choice’ crowds are only 2% Jewish? I mean, who the hell would be for abortion? I can see being ambivalent on the matter, but for it? Please: that’s like being for kitten stomps.

    Your claim relies on a partially artificial distinction between “Jews’ and ‘Zionists.’ In most cases, and on most topics, they’re one and the same. Jews chose our president, staff his administration, head most of the Ivy League colleges, have a hammer lock on mainstream media…and are supplying more bombs to the Jews in Israel so that they can keep killing even as we speak.

    Jews rule all, in fact. And it’s Jews that promote open borders, advocate the grossest imaginable forms of sexual degeneracy, and encourage blacks to run amok.

    What have I forgotten? Something, I’m sure. But the point is that however ideologically unpalatable you may find the fact (and you are an ideologue, Dave) the problem can be reduced to Jews, or at any rate, would obviously be at least partially addressed if Jews weren’t part of the equation.

    This is a fact, Dave. A singularly unpleasant fact, but a fact nevertheless.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  580. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Let me guess, Colin: are you one of those who has been a recipient of some of that loot?’

    Oh, no fear there. Somewhat the reverse in fact — you have no idea of the possibilities.

  581. @Ron Unz

    Ron Unz wrote to me:

    But I think the Christian Zionists were only found in America and to some small extent in Britain.

    Well, Sand seems to think that it largely started in the UK, and, more importantly, that this was particularly relevant because of the Balfour Declaration.

    Ron also wrote:

    Meanwhile, probably 98% of the Jews in Europe lived in other countries, in which there were almost no Christian Zionists.

    I think Sand’s argument is that Zionism among Evangelical Christians in the Anglosphere and Zionism among Central and Eastern European Jews were initially largely separate phenomena.

    However, they serendipitously became mutually beneficial to each other, first with the Balfour Declaration and then, critically, with the support of the US and the UK for partition in the 1940s.

    I.e., neither of the two separate movement created nor controlled the other, but the two independent movements eventually saw good reason to work together. Anyway, you can read both his books and see what you think.

    My own suspicion, by the way, is that the full story has not yet been written on Christian Zionism, specifically on this bizarre fantasy about the Jewish return to the Holy Land being a prerequisite for the Second Coming. As I said, I saw this among the fundamentalists I myself grew up among, but it was not clear to me where they got the idea: they acted as if all well-informed people knew about this!

    If you have not yet read Ilan Pappé’s Ten Myths About Israel, I also recommend it: a very concise discussion of the relevant history and issues concerning the conflict in Palestine (there are a handful of minor factual errors, which should have been caught by a proof-reader). There wee a few things I myself was not aware of, such as JFK’s supposed intention to push for the Palestinians’ right of return (which, of course, provides even more suspects to the already over-crowded cast who may have been involved in the assassination!).

    The other point, which I think Sand addresses peripherally, is the role of the Old Testament in this whole “God gave this land ti me” idiocy. Sand seems to think this was almost entirely a cynical ploy by secularist, largely socialist, Jewish Zionists aimed at bamboozling some of their fellow Jews and lots of Christians.

    What is scary about the current situation is that an increasing number of Jewish Israelis seem to truly believe it — Netanyahu is probably just using it cynically, but many of his followers seem to be True Believers.

    The intense emphasis in the Old Testament on genocide — that is basically what the whole book of Joshua is about — has always been a real nettle for Christians to try to grasp.

    But of course most people — Christians or not — have tended to view it as essentially irrelevant ancient history.

    It’s not irrelevant any more: it is now as if leading politicians were truly using Mein Kampf as their public guide to political action.

    So, I think the time has come to focus on the fact that the Old Testament, if taken as literally true and especially if taken as an actual guide to action, is deeply and profoundly evil.

    Sure: the Iliad and the Mahabharata do not exactly model liberal humanitarianism, either!

    But no one toady takes the Iliad or the Mahabharata as the literal word of God, much less the model for godly actions in the real world.

    The Old Testament should properly be viewed like The Hunger Games — not as the divine Word of God but as a chamber of horrors warning us of the evils that can flow from some truly monstrous beliefs. People need to have the guts to start saying so publicly. (I think this may be why Steve Sailer is annoyed with me.)

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Ron Unz
  582. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘…Now… outside of issues involving Israel and the Jews themselves, say, abortion, the Zionist lobby most assuredly does not rule the roost, mainly because it is not unified on most other issues — e.g., Jews tend to be pro-abortion, Evangelicals anti…’

    [Colin] Well, you’ll note that actually, the United States has some of more liberal abortion laws on the planet — and the Jews would argue that we’re backsliding.

    …or do you want to argue that all those ‘our choice’ crowds are only 2% Jewish? I mean, who the hell would be for abortion? I can see being ambivalent on the matter, but for it? Please: that’s like being for kitten stomps.

    What I pointed out above was that, since of course most Jews are indeed pro-choice, if Jews truly ruled the country, then they would not have allowed Roe to be overturned.

    But Roe was overturned.

    Therefore, Jews do not rule the country. QED.

    Elementary logic, my dear Colin.

    Similarly, the Jews would not have allowed Florida to pass the “heartbeat law” and so on.

    Since 1967, American Jews have almost always gotten their way on matters concerning Israel, anti-Semitism, etc. But not on everything.

    And the Dobbs decision overturning Roe is a good example of that.

    It’s just like the fact that the NRA is very influential on issues involving the Second Amendment. But, of course, the NRA does not rule the country and has little or nothing to say about many issues.

    Representative democracy allows a powerful, well-organized interest group to have woefully disproportionate influence on the specific issue on which it concentrates.

    But that does not mean that any one interest group rules the country by itself.

    Really: read Mearsheimer and Walt’s The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy: the world is more complex than you think.

    Colin also wrote:

    Jews rule all, in fact. And it’s Jews that promote open borders, advocate the grossest imaginable forms of sexual degeneracy, and encourage blacks to run amok.

    What have I forgotten? Something, I’m sure. But the point is that however ideologically unpalatable you may find the fact (and you are an ideologue, Dave) the problem can be reduced to Jews, or at any rate, would obviously be at least partially addressed if Jews weren’t part of the equation.

    No, as the example of Dobbs proves, it is not true that “Jews rule all,” any more than the NRA rules all or the teacher’ unions rule all — all very powerful lobbies, none of which “rules all.”

    On the debates that you and I are having you want very simple answers — anarchism can never work, at least with more than five people; the Jews rule all; etc. — even though the evidence shows that those simple answers are just not true.

    It’s just like the people who are so sure they know who killed JFK or who engineered the 9/11 terrorist acts. On both of those issues, I am quite sure I do not actually know, though of course some proposed answers are so absurd that we can know that those are not the correct answers.

    Similarly, when and where can anarchism work, who really does rule America — these are complicated issues without trivially obvious answers.

    There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, O Colin!

  583. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Well, Sand seems to think that it largely started in the UK, and, more importantly, that this was particularly relevant because of the Balfour Declaration.

    Sure, Christian Zionism started in Britain, but I think it was an absolutely tiny movement, with almost no influence. Christian Zionism is far larger in America.

    And I’m extremely skeptical it had any significant role in the Balfour Declaration. I actually looked into that topic in some detail a couple of months ago and published a long article about it:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-balfour-declaration-and-116000-american-lives/

    However, they serendipitously became mutually beneficial to each other, first with the Balfour Declaration and then, critically, with the support of the US and the UK for partition in the 1940s.

    Christian Zionism in America was still a totally negligible movement in 1948, and I can’t believe it had anything to do with our push for partition. The main factor was that the wealthy Zionists supposedly paid Truman $2 million in cash to fund his very uphill reelection campaign. That’s why Truman overrode the total opposition of his top two Cabinet members Defense Secretary Forrestal and Secretary of State Marshall and supported partition. The angry Zionists then had Forrestal purged and very likely murdered him, claiming it was suicide:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-deadly-world-of-post-war-politics/

    There wee a few things I myself was not aware of, such as JFK’s supposed intention to push for the Palestinians’ right of return (which, of course, provides even more suspects to the already over-crowded cast who may have been involved in the assassination!).

    Sure, I’d certainly been aware of that. There’s actually strong even overwhelming evidence that the Israelis played the central role in JFK assassination, but their other motives were much more important and immediate. JFK’s top priority was blocking Israel’s nuclear weapons program and he was also having AIPAC’s predecessor declared a “foreign agent” which would destroyed its political effectiveness. But since LBJ had always been totally in Israel’s pocket, the moment JFK was dead, those policies were completely reversed:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-mossad-assassinations/#final-judgment-on-the-jfk-assassination

    I doubt whether Sand or Pappe are aware of any of this information, or would even mention it if they were.

    • Replies: @H. L. M
    , @Colin Wright
  584. @bjondo

    Thanks for those links.

    I skimmed through it and paid particular attention to the short video ‘September clues – some Birds’.
    Shack claims that the speed of the birds was slowed down in the tampered video – whereas the actual speed was quite a bit faster.
    I have seen a ton of videos of those buildings from various angles during the course of events that unfolded that day, and I never once saw a whole flock of birds flying by.
    Moreover, the scale of those birds is clearly wrong. (Each building is 200 feet across and the size of the birds in comparison to the buildings is way too large – unless said birds were much closer to the camera taking those shots than they were to the buildings).

    It all looks so phony – like Shack inserted this fake flock of birds himself.
    I smell a rat. There’s a lot he says in his website that is not in accordance with observable facts on the day. This guy is not to be trusted.

  585. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Since 1967, American Jews have almost always gotten their way on matters concerning Israel, anti-Semitism, etc. But not on everything.’

    So your point is that a group making up 2% of the population does not in fact have complete control of everything?

    I’ll concede that. Has there ever been such a group? Would you say Jews are more or less of an elite than the French aristocracy of the Seventeenth Century? Is their influence greater or less?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    , @Wielgus
  586. @Ron Unz

    ‘…Sure, I’d certainly been aware of that. There’s actually strong even overwhelming evidence that the Israelis played the central role in JFK assassination…’

    No, you see, that may well be true — but pending proof on the order of ‘yes, the US did successfully explode nuclear devices over Hiroshima and Nagasaki,’ I’d prefer to let it go and focus on firmly rubbing people’s snouts in the Dancing Israelis, the Art Students, Ehud Barak visiting Jeffrey Epstein, the Liberty, etc.

    I want to win — not debate who killed Kennedy. We can revisit that — once Palestine’s free from the river to the sea. It’ll be of historical interest — like ‘was the Hossbach Memorandum authentic?’

    First, let’s deal with the most grotesque evil this country has ever supported — and supports right now.

    …and deal with it in terms of fighting and winning — not coming up with interesting hypotheses. Who killed Roger Rabbit can wait.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  587. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, O Colin!’

    To say the least, that applies more to you than to me, Dave.

    You’re a sharp guy — probably at least in the top ten percent here — and for all Unz Review’s flaws, that’s saying something.

    But you are a pretty typical hard science dude. Addicted to absolutes, illusions of objectivity, etc.

  588. Colin Wrong asks this silly question:

    Would you say Jews are more or less of an elite than the French aristocracy of the Seventeenth Century? Is their influence greater or less?

    I’ve been observing the interchange of commentary between you Mr Wrong and Physicist Dovid, each claiming/hinting that Malevolent International Jewry are only a subset of the power structure of the west.
    Now, I’ve asked this before in the UR, but various cowards have scurried off like cockroaches because they had NO EVIDENCE to back up their flimsy assertion that other non-Jewish cabals were on par with Malevolent International Jewry.

    So, let’s go over the facts once again:

    The Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG), operating out of the City of London, already possess multiples of U.S GDP in financial wherewithal.
    In addition to that, they have the capacity to print/digitally conjure scores of trillions more to dole out to themselves and their Talmudic cronies, by way of their ownership/control of the U.S Federal Reserve and the other western central banks.

    ZOG owns/controls the bulk of the western MSM and the major book publishing houses, controls western academia, owns every western politician of note (incl. the bulk of the U.S Congress), controls the western Health bureaucracies (enabling them to foist the Covid Psyop on us), and controls the IMF, World Bank, BIS and the entirety of the western financial system.
    Through their investment subsidiaries (Blackrock, Vanguard , State Street etc), ZOG has a controlling interest in most of the western world’s major corporations.

    QUESTION: Can anyone demonstrate that ANY other cabal/secret society has even ONE one-hundredth the financial and political clout of ZOG ?

    Until such time as they can furnish this proof, they should STFU.
    Let me put the net worth of ZOG in perspective. Over recent years, the likes of Elon Musk, Bill gates, Jeff Bezos and Warrent Buffett were touted as being the richest handful of men in the world.
    Well, the COMBINED net worth of these four is a ROUNDING ERROR in comparison to the worth of ZOG.

    Got it now ?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  589. Ron Unz says:
    @Colin Wright

    I want to win — not debate who killed Kennedy. We can revisit that — once Palestine’s free from the river to the sea. It’ll be of historical interest — like ‘was the Hossbach Memorandum authentic?’

    Sure, everyone can follow whatever tactical approach they choose for political purposes, which is perfectly fine.

    But my background is in the hard sciences, and I like solving historical puzzles and clearing up mysteries. So in my writings I tend to analyze the evidence for what actually happened rather than presenting arguments intended to support some particular political strategy.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  590. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    So your point is that a group making up 2% of the population does not in fact have complete control of everything?

    Yes, that is indeed my point. You had written above:

    Jews rule all, in fact.

    And my point was that that was certainly and obviously not true.

    Jews are a bit under three percent of the population (exact figures are of course impossible to come by — how do you count half Jews, quarter Jews, etc.?). Jews are, statistically speaking, more successful academically and financially and are better organized and more cohesive than most other ethnic groups.

    Everyone — most assuredly including American Jews themselves! — therefore recognizes that Jews “punch above their weight” in terms of political and cultural influence. My guesstimate is that American Jews’ influence is something like five-fold times their fraction of the population — i.e., about fifteen percent of American society as a whole. Jews are, in fact, just under ten percent of the US Senate and way under ten percent of the House. Of course, there are other realms of American life in which their representation is greater than that.

    All of this is interesting and is acknowledged, again, by everyone, including Jews.

    But this is a far, far sight from what you said above: “Jews rule all, in fact.” As you now concede, they don’t. In fact.

    Colin also wrote to me:

    But you are a pretty typical hard science dude. Addicted to absolutes, illusions of objectivity, etc.

    You betcha!

    I suffer from this bizarre delusion that there is actually a real world out there, independent of our desires, beliefs, collective delusions, etc., and I do my damnedest to encourage my fellow humans to focus on that real world.

    ‘Tis indeed a thankless task: I am well aware that I am quite out of tune with the dominant post-modernist Zeitgeist., which you exemplify.

    And so I am at odds with both “Jews rule all” fellows like you and “Jews are just swell guys” fellows like Jack D.

    Because, as you say, I am indeed congenitally “addicted to absolutes, illusions of objectivity, etc.”

    Silly me!

    Nonetheless… eppur si muove.

    In the end, that silly, little objective reality that I continue to believe in does have a tendency to bite back.

    Good and hard.

  591. @Truth Vigilante

    Truth Vigilante wrote to Colin Wright:

    Colin Wrong asks this silly question:

    Would you say Jews are more or less of an elite than the French aristocracy of the Seventeenth Century? Is their influence greater or less?

    I’ve been observing the interchange of commentary between you Mr Wrong and Physicist Dovid, each claiming/hinting that Malevolent International Jewry are only a subset of the power structure of the west.
    Now, I’ve asked this before in the UR, but various cowards have scurried off like cockroaches because they had NO EVIDENCE to back up their flimsy assertion that other non-Jewish cabals were on par with Malevolent International Jewry.

    And exactly who has claimed that “other non-Jewish cabals were on par with Malevolent International Jewry”???

    I do not claim there are other such “cabals.” Nor do I claim that “Malevolent International Jewry” is such a “cabal.”

    I claim that there is a loosely cohesive ruling elite, the parastici verbalist overclass — that includes White Gentiles, Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. And what more or less unites this elite?

    Primarily, getting their hands on the loot that is stolen by the regime, by the government and the organizations and institutions that are in bed with the government — from the Military-Industrial Complex to the legal profession to the universities to the licensed medical profession, etc. And, secondarily, by an ideology that is hostile towards the materially productive members of society and their culture and traditions.

    Plain old social-class analysis, going back to the Enlightenment and, indeed, to Aristotle.

    No doubt not as provocative as your ethnic hatreds. But I think that what I just said pretty clearly matches the reality we see around us.

    TV also wrote:

    QUESTION: Can anyone demonstrate that ANY other cabal/secret society has even ONE one-hundredth the financial and political clout of ZOG ?

    Until such time as they can furnish this proof, they should STFU.

    Just maybe we see no need to prove that, because you have not proven your assertion about the power of “ZOG.”

    Yes, yes, I know: you have shouted it from the rooftops since you were a little tyke.

    That is not a demonstration that it is true.

    Of course, I would say that — wouldn’t I? — since you have “proven” that I am a Jew and an Agent of ZOG? And how have you “proven” that I am a Jew?

    By constantly asserting it.

    Even though I’m not.

    By the way, what on earth caused you to reach your current state of enlightenment in which you hold these views about “Malevolent International Jewry”? Were you taught this by your dad? Did some cute Jewish girl dump you and you just can’t get over it?

    Your friendly neighborhood Valiant Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  592. aesop says:
    @PhysicistDave

    You betcha!

    I suffer from this bizarre delusion that there is actually a real world out there, independent of our desires, beliefs, collective delusions, etc., and I do my damnedest to encourage my fellow humans to focus on that real world.

    😀 😀 😀

    Please tell us about the “reality” of quarks and other strange gimmicks:

    https://arxiv.org/abs/1910.13770

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  593. Ho hum.

    ‘Wall Street Donors Keep Haley’s 2024 Run Afloat, Even If Voters Won’t’

    Four of the six donors named are Jewish. What are the odds?

  594. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…In the end, that silly, little objective reality that I continue to believe in does have a tendency to bite back…’

    Yes, but the social, psychological, and historical reality that human beings operate in is decidedly more subjective, relative, and determined by perspective.

    Moreover, that reality tends to be at least as or even more important than the comforting certainties of your physics. Of the crises afflicting America at the moment, how many are determined by hard physical fact and how many by the interactions of the psyches of all the individuals involved. Is the southern border now yawning open because the flow of the Rio Grande dropped?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  595. @PhysicistDave

    Physicist Dovid, in apologist mode when he makes excuses for the Jews by writing:

    My guesstimate is that American Jews’ influence is something like five-fold times their fraction of the population — i.e., about fifteen percent of American society as a whole.
    Jews are, in fact, just under ten percent of the US Senate and way under ten percent of the House.

    No gentile goes out of his way to defend Jews like this, unless he’s a shabbos goy.
    Of course, the more likely explanation is that you’re covering for your (((tribe))).

    At the end of he day, it matters not what the % Jewish representation is in Congress.
    The question that needs to be asked is:
    ‘What proportion of Congress are conscience opportunists in the employ of ZOG?’
    Answer: Perhaps 95% of them. (The exceptions being the likes of Rand Paul, Thomas Massie and a handful of others).

    More importantly, even though Presidents like Trump and ‘I’m-a-Zionist’ Biden may not be Jewish themselves, they’re all carefully vetted for loyalty to ZOG, and pretty much all the key cabinet positions are occupied by Talmudic Jews. That tells you all you need to know.

    Seeing as I’ve brought up Donald J Chump, and seeing as you’re a self admitted MAGAt, this is what David Stockman (a colossus of integrity and honesty) had to say about Donald Chump when interviewed on today’s Ron Paul Liberty Report:

    Take note around the 10:20 point of the video when Stockman says:

    ‘When it comes to these four pillars of conservative economics, Trump is not remotely their man. In fact, he’s made things worse’.

    In the interview, as Stockman speaks of his new book titled ‘Trump’s War on Capitalism’, this former OMB Director during the Reagan administration points out that Trump’s tenure in office was an economic disaster.
    Trump was a profligate and reckless spender so, to the extent that economy appeared superficially buoyant during his term, this artificial prosperity was financed on borrowed and/or printed money.
    This should’ve surprised no one. Trump always aligned himself with Democrats and limousine liberals his entire life, and only ran for President on the GOP ticket because his ZOG overlords instructed him to do so.

    But Phy-Do, like your fellow MAGAts, you’re too ignorant to see what a fraud the Orange Man is.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  596. @PhysicistDave

    Just maybe we see no need to prove that, because you have not proven your assertion about the power of “ZOG.”

    Are you serious ? Are you disputing the verifiable fact that a private cartel of Jewish bankers owns the U.S Federal Reserve ?
    Are you that stupid to not be aware of this (and thus the tens of trillions that these small hats can conjure into existence with a key stroke on their computers)?
    I mean Murray Rothbard knew this, as do all genuine Libertarians. If it’s true that you knew Rothbard, how can you not know this ?
    There is a ton of evidence that demonstrates the wealth of the Vampire Squid otherwise known as ZOG. We need go no further than this Larry Romanoff article that appeared in UR in late 2022:

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-richest-man-in-the-world/

    The article is long but I purposely chose it for that reason . Larry Romanoff includes an avalanche of evidence, he names names. ie: he itemises the ‘Old Money’ Jewish dynastic family entities that collectively comprised the core of ZOG in the 19th century.
    Add that to the ‘New Money’ Jewish dynasties of the 20th century and beyond, and we have a cabal with obscene levels of resources – far more than any single government, or even group of governments on the planet.

    You claim that the ruling elite are comprised of ‘White Gentiles, Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc’
    Taking the Jews out of the equation, where is your proof that ALL the goys combined have an aggregate financial wherewithal that is even 1% of ZOG ?
    OK, get cracking. I showed you my proof. Let’s see what you’ve got*.

    (*Of course I’m aware that all I’ll get in return from you is tumbleweeds blowing and the sound of crickets. Because you have NOTHING. There is not a scintilla of evidence to back up your asinine assertion that the wealth/political clout of the goys is anything other than peripheral in comparison to ZOG).

    Lastly you write:

    what on earth caused you to reach your current state of enlightenment in which you hold these views about “Malevolent International Jewry”? Were you taught this by your dad?
    Did some cute Jewish girl dump you and you just can’t get over it?

    I never heard a disparaging word about Jews from my parents. I was neutral towards Jews my entire life – I still am. I have nothing against rank and file Jews and judge everyone on a case by case basis, irrespective of their ethnicity/race.
    Unfortunately, a small sliver of miscreant Jews, those rapacious and depraved Talmudists that control the entirety of the western financial system, have given the rest of Jewry a bad name.
    These misfits killed JFK, RFK, JFK Jr, James Forrestal, they orchestrated the USS Liberty incident, the 9/11 False Flag, the Covid Psyop and mass cull of humanity via the toxic clot shots, are responsible for the Holohoax fable, the Anthropogenic Global Warming fraud and much more besides.

    Little by little, I studied the objective facts and, as anyone that has done likewise, I was SWAMPED with a tsunami of proof for ZOG orchestration of these crimes.
    No, I never was dumped by a Jewish girl (the few I’d crossed paths with were not exactly ‘picture perfect’, if you know what I mean), and no bad experiences of being swindled or cheated by anyone within the tribe.

    Pure and simple, it was just the WEIGHT OF IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that woke me from my stupor. ie: the same evidence that, as stupid as you are, you’re also aware of.
    But you’re just playing coy, pretending that you’ve never come across it.
    FFS, it is no exaggeration to say that there have been HUNDREDS of article in the UR alone that have detailed this ZOG malfeasance in the last few years alone.

    Of course you’re no going to read about any of it in the ‘Enclave of Imbecility’ (aka the Steve Sailer threads). But the other authors that contribute here have posted a ton of it – Larry Romanoff being the standout.
    So Phy-Do, prove me wrong. Where’s your proof that the collective net worth of all the goyim is any more than a tiny fraction of that possessed by Malevolent International Jewry?
    We’re all waiting to see this.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  597. Mark G. says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    There was no purposeful cull of humanity via the Covid vaccine. It was accidently released from a lab in China where it had been created, partly with funding from the American government. This funding was arranged by Fauci and his associates and Fauci has been lying and trying to cover it up since then. Fauci is not Jewish. He is a Catholic.

    If they were going to purposely design a vaccine to depopulate the planet, they would have designed one to kill off young people. Covid mostly killed old people in poor health who would have been dead in a year anyway. The elites would not have been stupid enough to purposely release a deadly disease that could have easily killed them too. Unless, of course, they secretly had access to the vaccine before everyone else. I doubt they could have kept something like that hidden.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  598. @Ron Unz

    ‘…But my background is in the hard sciences, and I like solving historical puzzles and clearing up mysteries. So in my writings I tend to analyze the evidence for what actually happened rather than presenting arguments intended to support some particular political strategy.’

    But — given the scale of collapse that is unfolding around us — is this still a moral position?

    Such a profession of intellectual detachment might have been defensible in 1998. I submit that now, it isn’t. The situation really is getting serious. Of course you will do as you see fit; however, I’m reluctant to agree that it’s just fine.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  599. Mark G. says:
    @Mark G.

    When I said there was no purposeful cull of humanity via the vaccine, I meant to say Covid itself and not the vaccine. In the case of the vaccine, there was no nefarious plot by liberal elites to kill people with it either. It was mostly Trump supporters who refused to get it, and mostly sheeplike liberals who ran out and got the vax and then multiple booster shots. The elites would not have planned something that would have targeted for harm their most ardent supporters.

  600. bjondo says:
    @Mark G.

    Fauci is not Jewish. He is a Catholic.

    Meet Yaacov Fauci. Rumor has it he is Tony’s nephew or son.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/yaakov-fauci-israeli-settler-new-york-sheikh-jarrah

    Rest of your comment is rubbish.

    Yid typical modus operandi: lie, retreat, return
    to repeat discredited lie when all is forgotten.

    5ds

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  601. @PhysicistDave

    Why Harry Truman supported the creation of Israel

  602. @PhysicistDave

    Since 1967, American Jews have almost always gotten their way on matters concerning Israel, anti-Semitism, etc. But not on everything.
    And the Dobbs decision overturning Roe is a good example of that.

    The question is: how many Jewish women who want an abortion will be prevented from having it? Especially after this:
    Israel eases access to abortion, days after US Supreme Court overturns Roe vs Wade
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-eases-access-to-abortion-canceling-key-decades-old-mandatory-formalities/

  603. ‘Fed’s favorite inflation gauge rose 0.2% in December and was up 2.9% from a year ago’

    Sure it did. Have I mentioned that I just broke Usain Bolt’s record in the one hundred meters?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  604. @Colin Wright

    On the other hand, the election’s just around the corner. Time to pump the economy — and that means interest rates have to come down. So…

  605. @aesop

    Our goofy little newbie aesop wrote to me:

    Please tell us about the “reality” of quarks and other strange gimmicks: [and then linked to a paper on effective field theory]

    Sho ’nuff!

    You don’t understand the paper you linked to, do you? As the authors say:

    We pay special attention to both strong and weak forms and argue on the side of weak emergence and reductionism.

    That is the perspective of the vast majority of physicists, including me.

    The general point about EFTs is that it is quite common that we have a theory that is pretty good quantitatively within its domain of application but that is eventually shown to be a limiting case of a more complex theory that applies to a wider domain of application.

    The classic example of this is Newtonian gravity, which is good enough to calculate sending a rocket to the moon. On the other hand, if you want to study two black holes spiraling in to each other, you need to use General Relativity, which is more accurate in such extreme cases. And we know that even General Relativity is not adequate to deal with quantum gravitational phenomena (no one has an adequate quantum theory of gravity — yet!).

    That does not change the fact that Newton was correct that it is the gravitational force of the Earth, to a good approximation an inverse-square law, which holds the Moon in its orbit around the Earth.

    Now as to your question about “quarks and other strange gimmicks”: we shoot electrons at high energies at nucleons and watch what happens. What happens can be explained by the nucleons being built up out of quarks. We also have a whole zoo of particles — the so-called hadrons — that interact via the strong nuclear force. We can explain all of these hadrons that we observe by showing how they are built up out of quarks.

    You don’t believe that?

    Fine — then study elementary-particle physics and quantum field theory for many years as I and many other physicists have done and then you come up with a quantitatively better explanation.

    We’re looking forward to your contribution.

    You stated earlier:

    I am not a believer in such ontologies whatever they may contain, to me and for any sentient being there are only TWO things that can be said to exist, himself (the Cartesian “cogito ergo sum”) and the world at large which contains everything, including the sentient being, but which cannot be more precisely described.

    Everything else is an elaboration of the mind of the sentient being and most certainly cannot be said to “exist” in the Platonic sense because it is private to the said being.

    This is, more or less, the thesis of Thomas Nagel, What Is It Like to Be a Bat?

    I’ve read Nagel’s essay: you misunderstand it, just as you misunderstand the physics paper to which you linked.

    Rocks exist. Mountains exist. Continents exist. Planets exist. All of which are, of course, made up of electrons, protons, and neutrons, which also exist.

    None of these things are, as you claim, “private to the said being.”

    There is a real world out there made up out of real things, independent of your beliefs about that world.

    Dr. Johnson had a point when, referring to Bishop Berkeley’s idiotic “idealist” philosophy, Johnson kicked a stone and declared, “I refute him thus!”

    And, yes, I know that a number of philosophers are indeed too stupid to grasp that this is an adequate refutation.

    By the way, do you understand that you are publicly making a fool of yourself?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @aesop
  606. @Mark G.

    There was no purposeful cull of humanity via the Covid vaccine.

    If they were going to purposely design a vaccine to depopulate the planet, they would have designed one to kill off young people. Covid mostly killed old people in poor health who would have been dead in a year anyway.

    OK, I get it that you meant to say ‘ design a VIRUS to depopulate the planet’ instead of vaccine.
    You obviously have not looked into the objective sources in relation to the Covid Psyop, and instead relied on MSM propaganda and the nonsense from the ZOG controlled western health bureaucracies.

    FACT: Far fewer people died from Covid than officially claimed. The Covid deaths figures were grossly inflated to scare the bejeezus out of people so that they would be traumatised into taking the toxic clot shots.
    To the extent that there was excess All Cause Mortality before the roll out of the experimental mRNA gene therapy that masquerades as a vaccine, it was due to medical malpractice, the high rate of suicides from the lockdowns/people missing their cancer screening appointments and thus not being saved from early treatment/small businesses shutting down and being bankrupted etc.
    People that would not normally have died if treated with Ivermectin or HCQ, were put on ventilators and died from VILII (Ventilator Induced Lung Injuries).
    Others were administered with Remdesivir, which killed them. Large numbers of the elderly in nursing homes were euthanased with large doses of Midazolam – not to mention huge numbers that were just left unattended without food and water and died from dehydration etc.

    FACT: Once the phony Covid deaths are removed form the tallies, it is CLEAR that Covid-19 was no worse than a typical flu season that we get from time to time.

    In a Portugal, where common sense prevailed, a Judge ordered an investigation to determine what proportion of the claimed Covid death were from Covid alone – because it was evident that people were dying as a result of other comorbidities but their death certificates falsely claimed it was due to Covid.
    Read the following article titled ‘Court rules only 152 died of COVID-19 in Portugal, not 17,000’:

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-02-portuguese-court-rules-152-died-covid.html

    That’s right, it turned out that less than 1% of the 17K that were alleged to have died from Covid, did in fact die from it. Similar fraud occurred all over the world (esp. in the U.S where there are countless instances of cases like people that died in motorcycle accidents, or died from gunshot wounds in gangland warfare, being tabulated as Covid deaths).
    This came as no surprise, seeing as we have admissions by Health bureaucrats stating how they classified what was or wasn’t a ‘Covid death’ (1 min video):

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aF27AdS4DPc

    How gullible would one have to be to believe the B.S official numbers alleged to have died from Covid ?

    As for your ridiculous assertion that the elite would have designed a vaccine that also killed young people if they really were intent on culling the planet, HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK?
    I suggest you watch the first 6 min of this video:

    The caption below the video reads:

    As Bret Weinstein informs Tucker of the alarming number of deaths resulting from the Covid vaccine, Pfizer makes a $43 Billion bet that ‘turbo cancers’ are going to explode around the world. But why, and could the two possibly be connected?

    There has been a significant rise in the number of people (esp, the young) getting ‘turbo cancers’. ie: aggressive cancers that metastisise very quickly into Stage 4 level and kill shortly thereafter.
    I suggest you also read this article sourced from LewRockwell.com titled ‘Young People Dying of Cancer at ‘Explosive’ Rates, UK Government Data Show’:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/11/no_author/young-people-dying-of-cancer-at-explosive-rates-uk-government-data-show/

    Meanwhile, this is what an internationally well respectedphysician had to say about the lethality of the Covid ‘vaccines’ (3 min video) titled ‘Dr. Roger Hodkinson Reveals Latest Vaccine Stats – 20 Million Dead from the Jab and 2.2 Billion Injured ‘:

    https://rumble.com/v1ndwyo--dr.-roger-hodkinson-latest-vaccine-stats-20-million-dead-from-the-jab-and-.html

    SUMMARY: If you were one of the depraved misfits within ZOG that was orchestrating a mass cull of humanity, of course you would not design a ‘vaccine’ that instantly killed all those who took it.
    Think about. Not everyone in the world could be vaccinated within the time frame of a week or two.
    If all the Covid shots were toxic resulting in 100% mortality, those that got it first and died straight away (perhaps less than 1% of the world’s population), would scare the remainder into not taking it.
    According to Dr Peter McCullough, around 95% of severe adverse injuries and deaths from the vaxx came from only around 4% of the batches.
    In other words, 96% of Covid jabs resulted in no immediate* negative consequence. They may well have been harmless placebos like a saline solution.

    (*Notice how I said no ‘immediate’ consequence). There is strong evidence to suggest that, although most Covid vaxxes do no kill or injure, they may sterilise the recipient and render them barren and unable to procreate.
    Pregnant women who took the jab in the first and second trimester of pregnancy reported sky high rates of miscarriages/stillbirths etc.
    Others women meanwhile, are having difficulty getting pregnant to begin with.
    This could be a mass cull by stealth. In other words, although most people who took the jab may not die, those teenage and young people who took it in recent years will find out that they can’t have children. So their gene pool dies out when they do.

    FACT: Bio-distribution studies from Japan show that the spike protein from the jab does not remain in the upper arm region as falsely claimed by the corrupt Health bureaucracies, but goes to the brain, the bone marrow and accumulates in the ovaries of women (as pointed out by Dr Mike Yeadon and Prof. Wolfgang Wodarg in this article titled ‘Recently Revealed Japanese Study Shows: Covid Vaccines May Affect Fertility’):

    https://www.rodefshalom613.org/2021/06/recently-revealed-japanese-study-shows-covid-vaccines-may-affect-fertility/

    Mark G, you have demonstrated that you are clueless in relation to the enormous damage that the Covid clot shots have caused to the world.
    You should keep your head down and keep your uninformed opinions to yourself – lest you come out looking like an idiot. I suggest you watch the entirety of the following short-ish video of Dr Peter McCullough addressing the European Parliament from Sept. 2023.
    You will learn more from it than you have in the last four years of absorbing Tony Fauci/CDC/ZOG owned MSM misdirection and bald faced lies:

    https://rumble.com/v3hwcgm-dr.-mcculloughs-speech-at-the-european-parliament.html

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  607. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    Is the southern border now yawning open because the flow of the Rio Grande dropped?

    No, but it is an objective physical fact that human beings — actual material objects — are coming across the Rio Grande in large numbers.

    That is not merely someone’s subjective belief.

    Colin also wrote:

    [Dave] ‘…In the end, that silly, little objective reality that I continue to believe in does have a tendency to bite back…’

    [Colin] Yes, but the social, psychological, and historical reality that human beings operate in is decidedly more subjective, relative, and determined by perspective.

    Moreover, that reality tends to be at least as or even more important than the comforting certainties of your physics. Of the crises afflicting America at the moment, how many are determined by hard physical fact and how many by the interactions of the psyches of all the individuals involved.

    Since I have been complaining at enormous length about the false beliefs and delusions from which many human beings suffer, quite obviously I do know that, as a matter of objective fact, many human beings do hold such beliefs.

    You are conflating the objective fact that human beings hold certain subjective beliefs — which I certainly acknowledge — and the issue of whether those subjective beliefs should be taken seriously as descriptions of objective reality, if the evidence indicates the contrary. I reject the latter position.

    Many people do not reject it. Many people hold that “your truth” and “her truth” and “my truth” are all equally valid. They are wrong.

    You stated above:

    But you are a pretty typical hard science dude. Addicted to absolutes, illusions of objectivity, etc.

    Surely, you did not mean by my supposed addiction to “absolutes, illusions of objectivity,” that I deny that human beings hold certain subjective views, since I complain — some might say interminably complain! — about some of those subjective views that are in fact false!

    Obviously, I am aware, very keenly aware, that human beings hold subjective views and that these views influence their actions. I simply condemn — quite vociferously! — many of those views which do not correspond to objective reality.

    And you are aware of this.

    So, in accusing me of being “addicted to absolutes, illusions of objectivity, etc.” you were most assuredly not saying that I am unaware of or ignore humans’ (often false) subjective beliefs.

    So what did you mean? Aside from the fact that you don’t like the fact that I keep pointing out that you and other humans hold lots of subjective views that do not correspond to objective reality?

    That is indeed my “addiction”: I am indeed quite fervently obsessed with exposing the lies by which people live, the lies which make civilization possible.

    Because I do not think that a society based upon lies should continue to exist. And you disagree with me on that, now don’t you?

    That, I think, is the fundamental issue of human life: should our lives be based upon lies?

    “Live not by lies.”

  608. @bjondo

    bjondo wrote to Mark G.:

    [Mark] Fauci is not Jewish. He is a Catholic.

    [bj] Meet Yaacov Fauci. Rumor has it he is Tony’s nephew or son.

    Rumor? You mean a rumor started by you? Any actual evidence?

    Tony Fauci is of Italian Catholic background. See here, for example:

    Fauci added he isn’t against Catholicism, stating he previously identified with the religion and performed Catholic traditions like baptism and confirmation. The former chief medical advisor to the president married in Washington, D.C.’s Dahlgren Chapel but no longer attends services.

    Yeah, yeah, I know: it’s all a lie — he’s just under Deep Cover. Klingons and Ferengi are, after all, really… Jews, right?

    Like me.

    Have you checked under your bed in the last hour to make sure there is not a Jew hiding there?

    Your friendly neighborhood Valiant Agent of ZOG (though not really a Jew),

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @Colin Wright
  609. @Truth Vigilante

    Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    [TV] Physicist Dovid, in apologist mode when he makes excuses for the Jews by writing:

    [Dave] My guesstimate is that American Jews’ influence is something like five-fold times their fraction of the population — i.e., about fifteen percent of American society as a whole.
    Jews are, in fact, just under ten percent of the US Senate and way under ten percent of the House.

    [TV] No gentile goes out of his way to defend Jews like this, unless he’s a shabbos goy.
    Of course, the more likely explanation is that you’re covering for your (((tribe))).

    Countless non-Jews have made similar points: this is the view of almost all of the non-Jews I know in the real world, aside, that is, from anonymous online commenters like you who are terrified to give their actual names.

    TV also wrote:

    Seeing as I’ve brought up Donald J Chump, and seeing as you’re a self admitted MAGAt…

    I am? Self-admitted?

    Considering that I have said oh-so-many times that I think Trump was a rather mediocre President? And that I have actually been a Vivek supporter?

    The fact is that the USA and the world are indeed in worse shape under Biden than they were under Trump.

    I do not think — most Americans do not think — that re-electing Trump will bring Heaven on Earth.

    But it is reasonable to hope that things will not then be quite as bad as they are now under Biden.

    Most important, the Deep State is making its bid for ultimate power by the ultimate in electoral interference — putting the leading candidate for the Presidency in jail for the rest of his life.

    If there is to be any hope of restoring the American Republic, we must fight against this blatant attempt to prevent there from being an actual Presidential election in 2024: we have to hold our noses and vote for Donald Trump.

    They are just not giving us any choice.

    Your friendly neighborhood Valiant Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  610. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    What you describe is mighty fine — and indeed, it is the way most healthy societies function — but it is not anarchy. Anarchy means my neighbors have no say in what I do or how I conduct my affairs.

    You have a bizarre, comic-book view of anarchy that does not correspond to how self-proclaimed anarchists use the term, how political philosophers use the term, or how dictionaries define the term.

    Here for example is what google brings up:

    the organization of society on the basis of voluntary cooperation, without political institutions or hierarchical government; anarchism.

    Indeed — voluntary. No state.

    The idea that anarchism means that people cannot defend themselves, and choose to help others defend themselves, is just your own personal fantasy.

    Colin also wrote:

    You referred to Locke. He said ‘that government governs best which governs least’

    No, he did not say that. You really need to actually read the Second Treatise.

    Colin asked:

    How are you planning to get them to help secure your property rights but ignore what you see fit to do in the privacy of your own home?

    That’s how my neighbors actually behave!!

    Your neighbors don’t behave that way? You need to move!

    Colin also wrote:

    I used to be an anarchist — I still am, if it could be confined to perfect liberty for myself alone. I used to joke, ‘anarchy for me and fascism for everybody else.’

    I believe you — that’s who you are, all right! Not me, and not my neighbors.

    You asked me above what I would do if my neighbors stole my firewood. Would your neighbors do that? Would you? Is the only thing that keeps you from stealing from your neighbors fear of the state?

    You’ve got me convinced that, yes, that is indeed who you are and that you really cannot conceive that most human beings are not like you.

    A pity.

    Where on earth did you get this bizarre view of human nature? Or are you just projecting onto other human beings your own lack of character?

    I guess I should just be thankful that you are not one of my neighbors!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  611. @PhysicistDave

    In responding to Colin Wrong, Physicist Dovid writes:

    Aside from the fact that you don’t like the fact that I keep pointing out that you and other humans hold lots of subjective views that do not correspond to objective reality?

    I don’t suppose you comprehend the IRONY of this statement ? After all, it is YOU who claims that the WTC towers and Building 7 went down in fire induced gravity* collapses on the day of 9/11, as per the official USG/NIST/ZOG dictated disinfo narrative.

    (*Anyone with eyes and ears can see that the WTC towers were BLOWN UP.
    Multi ton I-beams and steel structural supports were hurled hundreds of feet laterally at tremendous speed, some of which were impaled into buildings a long way away:

    The photo above is of the American Express building which is about 150 yards away from the WTC towers.
    If it had been a gravity collapse as you and the ZOG peddlers claim, said steel structural member from the WTC would have rolled off the edge of the structure and fallen to the pavement immediately below the building.
    Instead it was thrust LATERALLY with tremendous explosive force into that other building.

    The short video below is of an actual gravity collapse of a building in the Philippines (watch the 30 secs from 1:10-1:40):

    Whether the building fell due to an earthquake, shoddy construction, land subsidence or whatever, is of no consequence for the purpose of this discussion. In a gravity collapse we will witness that one or more load bearing supports (ie: on one side of the building) will give way first, causing nearby structural supports ON THE SAME SIDE to buckle also.
    Thus the building LEANS OVER TO ONE SIDE before collapsing (as it did in that video above).
    The ONLY WAY a building can collapse into its own footprint, is if ALL LOAD BEARING SUPPORTS GIVE WAY IN SYNCHRONISATION.

    Many of you will be saying that you’ve seen countless videos of buildings falling down into their own footprints prior to 9/11, passing through the regions of maximum resistance.
    Of course every one of those building collapses was a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION, whereby explosive charges were strategically placed and detonated synchronously so that the building came straight down.

    SUMMARY: You, pretend physicist Dovid, are the LAST PERSON in the UR commentariat that should be lecturing others about ‘objective reality’ !!

    You are a shameless LIAR that is propagating the official ZOG narrative about the WTC building collapses on 9/11 on behalf of your Talmudic benefactors.
    New UR readers be warned. Never accept anything on face value that’s been posted by this unscrupulous individual.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  612. Mark G. says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Let me see if I understand your theory. The plan was to kill a lot of people with the vaccine by giving them cancer later on and also making them unable to have children. Of course, it was mostly liberals running out and getting the vaccines and then multiple booster shots. So the plan was to kill off liberals and leave behind right-wing antivaxxers. Is that correct?

    It isn’t plausible to me that is what the elites would want. I think it is more likely a case of Hanlon’s Razor: never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity. The virus escaped from a lab due to stupidity. The vaccine was not tested enough for negative side effects due to stupidity. Combined with stupidity you also had greed. Remdesivir was used because it was patented and big pharma could make more profits off it than expired patent Ivermectin.

    As for the total numbers of deaths being exaggerated, I agree with you. However, it was not equivalent to the flu. I have had both the flu and Covid. The flu did not put me in the hospital but Covid did. It is like the flu for young people but for old people such as myself it was potentially dangerous. I might have avoided a hospitalization if an early home treatment like the type Dr. McCullough advocated had been easily accessible. Such home treatments never became widespread, though, since doctors who tried to offer them were threatened with the loss of their licenses. I am a firm believer in health freedom and the right of doctors to offer the treatments they want and for patients to use the treatments they want.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  613. @Mark G.

    So the plan was to kill off liberals and leave behind right-wing antivaxxers. Is that correct?

    The plan was to kill (or render infertile) as many people as possible. The miscreant Talmudists care not if they’re culling liberals or otherwise.
    Bear in mind, that while the anti-Covid vaxxers tend to be more right wing than the pro-vaxxers in the U.S, this is not a hard and fast rule. I don’t have the figures in front of me but I recall reading that the percentage of vaxxed right wingers is not that much less than among the left leaning dupes.

    MORE IMPORTANTLY, while many right wingers were vaxx hesitant, they still ended up getting the clot shots because the alternative was job termination, being unable to travel on a plane, pressure to take it from a pro-vaxx spouse etc.
    And let’s not forget that Trump told all the MAGAts that the vaxx was safe and effective (and like the ZOG sock puppet that he is, still does to the present day).

    Also, the U.S has around 4% of the world’s population, so even if the left-right divide was more pronounced as to who did or didn’t get vaxxed in America, this would NOT translate to nearly the same extent in other nations where most citizens didn’t decide to get vaxxed based on partisan political considerations.
    In other words, irrespective of their political leanings, outside of the U.S the percentage that got jabbed from each side of the political divide would more or less be similar.

    Lastly, I cannot believe you wrote this (which suggests you didn’t open up my links and check out the torrent of unambiguous data):

    The vaccine was not tested enough for negative side effects due to stupidity.
    It isn’t plausible to me that is what the elites would want. I think it is more likely a case of Hanlon’s Razor: never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.

    Our own individual biases should not come into the equation. What you and I deem to be ‘plausible’ should not be a determining factor.
    The fact is that Pfizer and the other vaxx manufacturers DID test their vaccines exhaustively and they KNEW they would cause carnage. Not only that, they knew the specific type of carnage that was going to result. ie: kill many millions in the first few years, BUT not so many that it couldn’t be explained away by their control of the MSM and the corrupt western health bureaucracies, who would blame excess All Cause Mortality on the Covid virus, or Climate change, or some other feeble excuse.
    Thereafter, there would be an incremental cull each year, but not large enough to alarm the lumpen proletariat. And of course the inability of couples to conceive in the years to come will be blamed on low sperm counts, eating too much junk food or perhaps the ozone layer issue will be resurrected ?
    They could say just about anything and the dumbed down masses would believe it.
    (After all, the masses were dumb enough to take an experimental mRNA vaccine with no long term testing, so the ZOG hierarchy must be laughing all the way to Federal Reserve Bank, yukking it up over how gullible the goys were).

    Of course we won’t be privy to all the data which Pfizer and their ilk have that specifies exactly how deadly it is. However, do you recall how these Pfizer didn’t want their trial data to become available for 75 years ?
    Well, guess what. They were taken to court and a judge made them release at least some significant portions. And what we’ve learnt from that is that these Big Pharma behemoths KNEW the lethality of their products and purposely hid the data.

    Anyway, back to the important bits – specifically the data from my link to the article titled ‘Young People Dying of Cancer at ‘Explosive’ Rates, UK Government Data Show’.
    Here are some important data sets (You tell me if they can be attributed to stupidity or the much more plausible explanation of malice aforethought):

    The study’s results in the rate of cancer deaths above the historic norm in 2022 for ages 15-44 in the U.K. included:

    A 28% rise in fatal breast cancer rates in women.
    An 80% increase in pancreatic cancer deaths among women and a 60% increase among men.
    A 55% increase among men in colon cancer deaths and a 41% increase in women.
    A 120% increase in fatal melanomas among men and a 35% increase in women.
    A 35% increase in brain cancer deaths among men and a 12% rise in women.
    A 60% increase in cancer death rates among men in cancers “without site specification” and a 55% increase among women.

    Also this part needs to be absorbed by all UR readers:

    Perhaps most distressing, Flowers said, is the rise in the young of what some oncologists now call “turbo cancers,” a new term.

    “Turbo cancer is a popular name that’s been coined to describe several things,” Flowers said. “It is cancers in young people just turning up, one day you’re absolutely fine, the next day you’re told you have terminal cancer and you’re dead in a week. There are many reports of that even in the mainstream media.”

    “Tumours are not only faster growing but you’re getting more types of cancer occurring in the same person. It used to be very very rare. Just occasionally I’d see a very, very aggressive inflammatory cancer in young people. But now everyone has stories.”

    SUMMARY: Vioxx was a pharmaceutical product that killed somewhere between 100, 000 and 200,000. It may have been the second most lethal Big Pharma product in history. Other toxic Big Pharma products may, more or less, have been of comparable lethality.

    Well, the Covid ‘vaccines’ are not twice as bad or even ten times as bad, but a minimum of TWO ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more lethal than the previous most lethal pharmaceutical product/vaccine in history.
    Got that ?? ie: over One Hundred times more lethal in terms of deaths attributed to it.
    And that’s just the deaths caused by the clot shots SO FAR.
    This is not over by a long shot, and it appears ZOG have orchestrated a ‘slow cull’ as tens of millions more will die in the years to come – with perhaps hundreds of millions of young people rendered infertile.

    Does that outcome seem like a ‘chance occurrence’ (as would be the case if the vaccines issues were the result of stupidity or sloppiness ?).

    Lastly, I urge you to watch the Dr Peter McCullough video, where he speaks to the European Parliament (refer to the last link in my comment # 622).
    Please understand, McCullough is no ordinary doctor. This man is a living treasure and his credentials are impeccable. (Here they are for those that are unaware):

    Resume of Dr Peter McCullough:

    Professor at Texas A & M College of Medicine, President, Cardiorenal Society of America, Editor-in-Chief, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine, Senior Associate Editor, American Journal of Cardiology and others.

    He has written 46 peer-reviewed publications on COVID-19 and is considered among the world’s EXPERTS on the topic, testifying in the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs in November 2020, and throughout 2021 in the Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, in the Colorado General Assembly, and in the New Hampshire Senate, concerning many aspects of the pandemic response.

    He’s an epidemiologist and in those fields he specialises in (Cardio/Renal), he is the most published medical professional in the world, in HISTORY.

    BTW, I recall watching a Zoom video featuring Dr Robert Malone, Dr Pierre Kory and Bobby Kennedy Jr, where RFK Jr explains that the Covid vaccines were designed to create worse outcomes for caucasian and black people especially, and be much milder on Asians and …… Ashkenazi jews.
    This comment of his received widespread coverage by the media and people were calling him an anti-termite* as a result.
    (*I won’t use the term anti-semite seeing as the Ashkenazis are Khazars and thus not Semites at all).

    Hmmm, what luck !! (Lucky Larry Silverstein levels of good luck).
    The Covid vaccines have much milder effects on the small hats.
    Yet another coincidence attributable to stupidity or lack of testing ?? Yeah right.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  614. Saw this one coming.

    ‘Who is Julia Sebutinde? The judge against all ICJ rulings in Israel’s case
    ICJ Judge Sebutinde voted against emergency measures requested by South Africa against Israel over its war on Gaza…’

    I figured Israel would be able to bribe any judges from black Africa proper.

    Bingo. Sebutinde is from Uganda.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  615. Mark G. says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I can’t believe you would try to claim there was little difference in vaccination rates between Trump voting rightwingers and Democats. There were lots of articles offering studies supporting that. A quick Google search pulls them up. I also can’t believe you would accuse me of being subject to individual biases while you pose as being totally objective. Everyone is subject to individual biases and that would include you.

    I agree with much of what you say but you do have an excessive bias against Jews. I voted for Ron Paul twice in the Republican primaries. He criticized the Fed and our pro-Israel foreign policy but did not go on about Jews all the time the way you do. This sort of Jew fixation reminds Americans of a certain dead German dictator who will never be popular in this country. It is not an effective political strategy for conservatives to adopt.

    Also, you need to cut it out with your reckless accusations that other commenters like a retired physicist must be a Jew because they disagree with you on something. Anyone can pull up his comment history and see numerous times where he has criticized Israel or the Jewish religion.

  616. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Because I do not think that a society based upon lies should continue to exist. And you disagree with me on that, now don’t you?

    Somewhat ironically, it is I who would note that what is has to take precedence over what should. It may very well be morally preferable that human beings should be able to exist in a state of anarchy; however, human nature makes that unworkable. You will get some form of social authority; whether you want that to be Big Frank across the street or something else is another matter.

    I’ll also point out that whatever the facts of physical reality, social reality — and the structures and ideologies we have erected around us — have become far more important in governing the human condition. If it becomes inhumanly cold, that’s a nuisance. If the FBI decides you’re a terrorist threat, your life is about to become significantly worse.

  617. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Here for example is what google brings up:

    the organization of society on the basis of voluntary cooperation, without political institutions or hierarchical government; anarchism.

    Indeed — voluntary. No state.

    The idea that anarchism means that people cannot defend themselves, and choose to help others defend themselves, is just your own personal fantasy…’

    The key word there is ‘voluntary’ — and right away, you’re describing a human society that has never existed.

    In the absence of formal government, you don’t get to decide what you can and can’t do; your nieghbors do, or the other tribesmen in the longhouse, or the other villagers. If you’re in a Mennonite colony, you’re more or less free from governmental supervision — but if you won’t conform to their norms, you’re out on your ass.

    The irony is that ‘anarchy,’ as you would have it practiced, means less freedom, not more. Your neighbors or whatever acquire an unrestricted ability to dictate what you can and can’t do, and how you would do it.

    You imagine that abolishing government completely means you become free. No; it means nothing stands between you and the local Mafia chieftain, or the yahoos down at the local bar and grill who get to talking about how that Dave needs to be straightened out, or the neighbors who decide to make the little missus happy and burn your house down.

    You don’t become free; as a practical matter, either you go live in the woods with the bears or you lose all freedom.

    If you want to be free, anarchy is an appealing but fatal trap. Really, as I have said, the closest you can get — and that humanity has ever gotten — is the sort of severely circumscribed state we had had between 1783 and 1860. That’s about the best that can be done, given human nature. At any rate, it’s about the best we’ve ever done.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  618. @Mark G.

    ‘…Also, you need to cut it out with your reckless accusations that other commenters like a retired physicist must be a Jew because they disagree with you on something. Anyone can pull up his comment history and see numerous times where he has criticized Israel or the Jewish religion.’

    You’re allowing yourself to be deceived. That would just be part of ‘Dov’s’ camouflage. Ask Vigilante.

  619. @Colin Wright

    The situation becomes more clearly defined.

    ‘The ambassador of Uganda to the United Nations also expressed a different opinion.

    “Justice Sebutinde ruling at the International Court of Justice does not represent the Government of Uganda’s position on the situation in Palestine,” he said in a statement on Twitter.

    That is to say, the ambassador did not get a cut.

  620. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…There is a real world out there made up out of real things, independent of your beliefs about that world…’

    So you say. Oi’m suspicious…

    But anyway, the point I keep wanting to hammer home with you is that human reality is made up of the perceptions, values, needs, delusions, etc of all eight billion of us — and as such is shifting, rarely completely certain, and is a matter of perspective, and the preponderance of evidence. Usually, it’s not one thing or another, but more this than that.

    For example, people can start by accepting that the Nazis were bad, and the Allies good — then read all about Dresden, etc and get all excited and decide that the Nazis were good and the Allies bad. This is pretty routine around here.

    Well…both are fairy tales. And indeed, it’s possible to argue the Nazis had a point. It was an interesting conception — and at least briefly very successful. But on the whole and giving due weight to all points of view, one really does have to grant that we and the British were more the good guys and the Nazis more the bad guys.

    But it really isn’t cut and dried. It’s not like that rock is sitting there, and its location and dimensions can be precisely described. It depends how you look at it.

    [MORE]

    Here’s a classic — and reasonably non-controversial — example that has always fascinated me.

    Businessman gives fifty thousand dollars to Congressman A, and Congressman A proceeds to vote against a measure that would cut Businessman’s profits. Clearly, Businessman has corrupted the Congressman, right?

    Well… I once read this Op-Ed by some middle-sized Fat Cat — the sort of guy who has a hundred employees and is a big player in the world of irrigation pumps or some such thing. Not Bill Gates — but not Wright Moving, either.

    S0 he was complaining. Repeatedly, he would get phone calls from Congressman A’s office, or Congressman B’s secretary. Invariably, the gist was ‘Congressman A is sitting on this committee, and before this committee is a bill that would lift the tariff on Mexican irrigation pumps or some such thing. How much was Businessman A prepared to donate to Congressman A’s re-election fund?’

    Businessman’s point is that he didn’t want to donate money to anybody — least of all some obscure Congressman who wasn’t even in his state. What could be described as bribery could also be called blackmail.

    And this is the way human reality is. It depends how you look at it. Why people do things — and what they are doing — is a matter of interpretation.

    Here’s another example. As you may be aware, the decrepit Russian Baltic Fleet went half-way around the world in 1905 and got blown out of the water by the Japanese in the Straits of Tsushima. It wasn’t even a contest; the Russians didn’t stand a chance.

    Well, the fleet that was wiped out was the Russian’s ‘A’ squadron. Following it was a ‘B’ squadron of truly obsolete vessels.

    The commander of that squadron simply surrendered; he didn’t fire a shot. Upon the conclusion of peace and his return home, he was duly court-martialed for cowardice and imprisoned.

    Was he a coward — or a hero? Of course the minor detail that his life expectancy was going to be about one hour if he didn’t surrendered must have crossed his mind — but he knew his surrender would lead to ignominy.

    What he told his crews when he gave his order could be paraphrased as,‘I am an old man; my fate is not important. But you are young; if Russia’s navy is ever to be rebuilt, you must live. So, I am surrendering, and accepting my fate.’

    Whether that was cowardice or courage would be something only he could have known — and maybe he wasn’t too sure either.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  621. bjondo says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Dr. Anthony Fauci said practicing Catholicism is something he “doesn’t really need to” do during an interview earlier this month.

    The former National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director told BBC he feels engaging with Catholicism is a formality.

    “I think my own personal ethics on life are, I think, enough to keep me going on the right path,” Fauci said.

    Will be days before I will be able to stop laughing.

    That little, lying snake 100% Yid.

    Another rumor has iLittle Tony the greatest non-state murderer in history, and corrupt.

    His rumored son is just a fat, honest thug-thief – a tradition 2500 years.

    Re Ferengi, yes. Klingons? Could be, even in appearance.

    5ds

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  622. @Mark G.

    I agree with much of what you say but you do have an excessive bias against Jews.
    This sort of Jew fixation reminds Americans of a certain dead German dictator who will never be popular in this country.

    I follow the WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE. And if the deluge of forensic evidence points to Eskimo orchestration of the JFK coup d’etat, the 9/11 False Flag, the Covid Psyop mass cull etc, then so be it – I will be among the first to point out Eskimo malfeasance.

    The question you should be asking is: Is what I’m saying about the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG) true ?
    And if it us, then I (and everyone else) has every right to point out that a sliver of depraved and obscenely wealthy Talmudists are committing these crimes, and thus giving rank and file innocent Jews a bad name.
    But Mark G, you are TOO LAZY to do the necessary research.
    Your comment about the ‘German dictator’ shows clearly that you know NEXT TO NOTHING about WWII history. What you do know is sourced from Steven Spielberg Hollywood movies about the Holohoax.
    Anyone who has studied WWII objectively (as Ron Unz himself has, and the great historian John Wear who regularly contributes to the Holohoax/WWII articles in UR) will see that, as far as depraved acts of mass murder are concerned, the Anglo Zionist empire is by FAR the worst perpetrator during WWII and beyond.

    It’s not as though you have to go out of your way to find this information about ZOG manipulation of the western financial system and their criminal behaviour, because I (and countless others in UR), have taken the time to post the necessary links to the information.
    So, going back to the link to a Larry Romanoff article in UR from 2022 that I provided in my comment # 612, here it is again for your reference:

    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-richest-man-in-the-world/

    Read that article carefully. It contains a mountain of evidence to substantiate that ZOG has the stratospheric levels of financial and political wherewithal, which they have utilised to commit their egregious crimes.
    If you choose to keep your head buried in the sand, that’s your choice. But the facts are the facts.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  623. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    In the absence of formal government, you don’t get to decide what you can and can’t do; your nieghbors do, or the other tribesmen in the longhouse, or the other villagers. If you’re in a Mennonite colony, you’re more or less free from governmental supervision — but if you won’t conform to their norms, you’re out on your ass.

    Yeah, yeah, now you’re finally getting it! That’s indeed what I want.

    You have a modern Leftist view of “freedom,” such that “freedom” means that you do whatever the hell you want and the rest of us must continue interacting with you as before whether we wish to or not. So, for example, if you announce you are gay, the rest of us cannot socially shun you or ostracize you or fire you from your job if we are your employer as retaliation for your coming out as gay. Or if I am your employer and I find out you use marijuana on the weekends, I cannot fire you as a result: I mean shouldn’t you be “free” to use pot?

    That is not what I, or any consistent libertarian or anarchist means by “freedom,” nor is it the traditional American concept of freedom.

    Let me spell it out: you can do whatever you want with your body and your property, as long as you physically leave the rest of us and our property alone, and we must then also leave you alone.

    But the purest form of “leaving you alone” is really leaving you quite completely and literally alone: we are quite free to refuse to associate with you, to employ you, to trade with you, to talk with you, etc.

    That is why all libertarians oppose anti-discrimination laws: shunning should always be allowed.

    You own a business and you choose only to employ White gentile heterosexual males? Hey, it’s your business! But I don’t like your behaving that way? Hey, I am free to organize a boycott against your business!

    You don’t like my organizing a boycott against your business? Then you can encourage people to boycott me!

    And so it goes — shunning and boycotts galore!

    That was how America actually functioned prior to the twentieth century, you know: that is what “freedom” traditionally meant.

    You ever read Tocqueville’s Democracy in Americaa? Tocqueville went on at great length about the fact that, legally, Americans were much freer than Europeans, but that they were, at the same time, socially, much more subject to social norms and pressures. As a wild and crazy French aristocrat, Tocqueville was rather bothered by this.

    As a descendant of the Pilgrims and of nineteenth-century Victorians, I consider this to be a very, very good thing: you want to be accepted in bourgeois society, you better learn to live up to bourgeois norms. You want to live like Huck Finn’s dad in Twain’s novel? Then the rest of us are going to ostracize you, systematically and quite effectively.

    You keep making the point, again and again and again, that if we do not have laws that control human behavior, then we will have even more effective control of behavior via social pressure.

    And I keep trying to tell you that, yes, that is indeed what I want, and, for some strange reason, you seem unwilling to believe that this is what I consider to be a good society, the legally free but socially very constrained society of nineteenth-century America about which Tocqueville wrote.

    Of course, I think that even nineteenth-century America had way too much government, but it was much better than the society we live in today.

    Now, we could discuss why it is that I and all consistent libertarians and anarchists want that sort of socially-constrained society, based on discrimination and shunning and ostracism. But we cannot really discuss that until you grasp that this is what we really want, now can we?

    So, can you try to grasp that, yes indeed, what I and all consistent libertarians and anarchists do indeed want is a society in which you either conform to socially accepted norms, if you want to interact with other members of society, or, as you say, you go out and live with the bears?

    That is what we mean by “freedom,” and, as Tocqueville made clear, it is what my nineteenth-century forebears meant by “freedom,” and it seems fair to me to use words with the meaning they have had for many, many centuries.

    I understand that this is not what Leftists like you mean by “freedom.” But discussion is facilitated by understanding how we are using words, don’t you think?

  624. @Truth Vigilante

    My demented little buddy Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    SUMMARY: You, pretend physicist Dovid, are the LAST PERSON in the UR commentariat that should be lecturing others about ‘objective reality’ !!

    You are a shameless LIAR that is propagating the official ZOG narrative about the WTC building collapses on 9/11 on behalf of your Talmudic benefactors.

    Don’t you think that referring to me as “pretend physicist Dovid” is more than slightly childish?

    Anyone can find my 1982 Ph.D. thesis from Stanford on the tau lepton online or references to papers I have published in leading physics journals or my various patents on error-correction coding systems for satellite-communication systems and computer hard-disk drives.

    Does that really fit with me being a “pretend” physicist?

    I could of course respond in detail to the physical issues that you raise about the collapse of the Twin Towers. But I tried doing that with you last year and you responded with a veritable wall of verbal abuse, vituperation, and actual physical threats.

    And so you continue to this day.

    I think anyone here can understand how an actual physicist would respond to a prospective student who behaved in this way.

    To put it bluntly — you are hereby expelled from my class.

    Your friendly neighborhood heroic Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  625. @bjondo

    bjondo wrote to me:

    Will be days before I will be able to stop laughing.

    That little, lying snake 100% Yid.

    Tony Fauci is not Jewish.

    He is of Italian Catholic descent. His grandparents were immigrants from Italy.

    You are making a fool of yourself.

    Now, quick! Go check all the closets in your little apartment to make sure there aren’t any Jews hiding there!

    And check the shower stall too!

    • Replies: @bjondo
  626. Mark G. says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    You are being evasive. You made the claim there was hardly any difference in vaccination rates between Republicans and Democrats. A September 2021 Gallup poll found 92% of Democrats and 56% of Republicans had been vaccinated. That is a big gap. So, if there was a mass cull via the vaccine then what was the purpose of killing off more Democrats? Jews vote eighty percent Democrat so it would make no sense for them to be behind something that would kill off their fellow Democrats and strengthen their political opponents.

    You are also being evasive about the fact that, unlike you, Ron Paul does not fulminate about the Jews all the time. To me, if we want to get this country on the right track we need to adopt his policies and also his strategy. We need to appeal to average middle class Americans and talking about the Jews all the time isn’t the way to do it. Ron Paul knew that. The most popular Republican right now, Donald Trump, knows that too. Does Trump talk all the time about how the Jews tried to kill people with the Covid vaccine? Does Trump talk all the time about how the Jews were behind 9/11, how Jews control the Fed, how the Holocaust never happened and so on? No, he doesn’t. If he did do that his support in this country would evaporate. This is America, not nineteen thirties Germany.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  627. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Have you checked under your bed in the last hour to make sure there is not a Jew hiding there?’

    I’m becoming reluctant to do that. So often, it turns out there is a Jew hiding there — and that just makes matters worse.

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
  628. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…I understand that this is not what Leftists like you mean by “freedom.” …’

    Leftist? Hey: I’m for a return to Jim Crow, advocate restrictions on Jews, believe in a right to corporal punishment of wives and children, draw the line at the right to keep and bear arms at nuclear weapons, want an absolute bar on any further immigration, favor nuclear power, support the repeal of the marine mammal protection act when it comes to sea lions, and think deer tags should be abolished.

    Leftist? I’m the founder and sole member of the Francisco Franco Fan Club.

    Anyway, I s’picions our debate about ‘anarchy’ could be reduced to semantics — at any rate, it’s starting to bore me. Besides, I’m right, and you’re wrong.

  629. @PhysicistDave

    ‘So, can you try to grasp that, yes indeed, what I and all consistent libertarians and anarchists do indeed want is a society in which you either conform to socially accepted norms, if you want to interact with other members of society, or, as you say, you go out and live with the bears?’

    That’s hardly anarchy. Indeed, as a practical matter, it more or less describes what obtains around here.

    Maybe you just need to leave California.

  630. @RoatanBill

    RoatanBill wrote:

    I’d like a credentialed scientist to give me enough information via a conversation to convince me that the CO2 theory has merit. My research and applying common sense tells me it’s bogus.

    I have a Ph.D. in physics from Stanford, so I am indeed a “credentialed scientist.” The theory that CO2 contributes to global warming uses very elementary physics: it is correct.

    Your point about there being a layer of CO2 is just due to your having read some pop-science presentation that over-simplified the matter or that was unclear, at least unclear to you. There is not, of course, a discrete layer of CO2.

    By the way, the fact that anthropogenic CO2 does indeed have a warming effect on global climate does not mean that it is the only cause of warming. Presumably, it was not anthropogenic CO2 that brought us out of the last Ice Age, and it is unlikely that anthropogenic CO2 brought us out of the Little Ice Age. Nor does the fact that anthropogenic CO2 has a warming effect mean that we are facing a climate disaster that will destroy the biosphere or end human civilization: that is all just silly hysteria that the news media, and scientific illiterates like Al Gore, have latched on to.

    Nonetheless, it is a simple fact of physics that anthropogenic CO2 does indeed have a warming effect on global climate.

    You are going to have a great deal of trouble getting any “credentialed scientist” to discuss this with you in any detail, because a lot of us have tried to do this in forums like this and have been met with a huge amount of verbal abuse and hatred.

    We just don’t need that. We normally get paid good money to make use of our knowledge and expertise, and, while we may be willing to contribute to public forums like this on occasion for free, we do not feel like doing this when we are not treated with even the minimum of courtesy and respect.

    By the way, when I have pointed out that we do usually get paid, that too has engendered a great deal of hatred and ridicule.

    Yeah, because of course it is fair for auto mechanics or plumbers to get paid for their expertise, but not scientists?

    Thanks but no thanks.

    Anyway, I have just given you one bit of information — for free! — about your question: there is indeed not a separate CO2 layer. Either you misunderstood or your source was misleading.

    You are most likely to get an answer from one of us scientists if you can offer further questions that are as clear and simple as that specific question about the (non-existent) CO2 layer. And of course if you are courteous and respectful of our expertise.

    All the best,

    Dave

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  631. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    But anyway, the point I keep wanting to hammer home with you is that human reality is made up of the perceptions, values, needs, delusions, etc of all eight billion of us — and as such is shifting, rarely completely certain, and is a matter of perspective, and the preponderance of evidence. Usually, it’s not one thing or another, but more this than that.

    You are replying to a post in which I addressed our crazy little pal aesop who was bringing up a physics paper, that he clearly misunderstood and wanted to use to justify a pseudo-Berkeleyan idealist position.

    He is spouting utter nonsense, about physics, and, as a physicist, I thought I should point this out.

    What you are pointing out in some detail is that humans have different beliefs about a whole lot of things, especially other human beings.

    They do indeed, and they even have different opinions about matters of science — as is proven by Creationists and, indeed, our crazy little pal aesop.

    However, that people hold these beliefs is an objective fact about reality, not something subjective.

    Their subjective beliefs may be true or false or somewhere in between or, quite commonly, so vague as to be “not even wrong,” in Pauli’s famous phrase.

    But, of course, that rampant confusion in the minds of human beings does not change the fact that the world is what it is. Even their confusion, as lamentable as it surely is, is nonetheless what it is.

    How can I tell when their beliefs are correct vs. false vs. half-correct vs. not even wrong?

    I don’t need to! At least not usually.

    On some matters, the evidence is clear enough that I can speak definitively, most often on matters of science or math. Sometimes, I can do the same on matters of history — e.g., the Bible is obviously largely a collection of myths.

    But on all the matters you mention? It is not my job to pretend to be God!

    In any case, the supposed ambiguities you mention in the cases you allude to are not matters of fact but matters of how we choose to morally judge particular incidents.

    And moral judgments of that sort, like aesthetic judgments, are, as Hume pointed out long ago, not matters of objective fact about the world.

    You cannot derive an “ought” from an “is.”

    Of course, it is matters of fact what judgment you choose to make or what judgment I choose to make, but those two facts may simply relate our contradictory judgments. And no one ever denied that humans often make contradictory judgments.

    The fact that many people find watermelon to be tasty, but that I do not, is not a matter of a fuzziness in reality. It is just a fact about differences in human tastes.

    This was all made clear long, long ago by Hume and others.

    I’m constantly surprised that anyone today is confused about it, but of course many people are.

    One more (regrettable) fact about the real world.

  632. aesop says:
    @PhysicistDave

    You whole reply is a strawman.
    You don’t understand anything of what I say, so you refute what you understood which is entirely out of kilter.

    Just one example:

    There is a real world out there made up out of real things, independent of your beliefs about that world.

    OF COURSE, There is a real world out there independent of anyone beliefs!

    Reality is what comes back to bite you in the ass if you misrepresent it.
    Did you ever notice that sometimes your reality didn’t went “according to plan”?

    This is what I say, YOUR picture of reality (or mine or whomever else) is NOT what it appear to be.

    You even provide yourself the illustration of this point:

    Newton’s reality is not “real” with respect to Einstein reality which itself is probably not “real” with respect to yet to be confirmed Quantum Gravity theory or whatever.

    BTW, this is the whole point of the Luu and Meissner paper.
    At different scales you have to use different theories which are not entirely compatibles (they give slightly but noticeably different results for the same case) yet none of which is more “real” than any other.

    Overall this has nothing to do with the silly metaphysic of Berkeley.

    You are incredibly dense or plain dishonest (or both 🙂 )

  633. @Mark G.

    Does Trump talk all the time about how the Jews tried to kill people with the Covid vaccine? ….. about how the Jews were behind 9/11 …. how Jews control the Fed, how the Holocaust never happened and so on? No, he doesn’t.
    If he did do that his support in this country would evaporate.

    If Trump even hinted at exposing the truth of 9/11, he would evaporate. (Loss of political support would be the least of his worries in that scenario).

    You see, it’s one thing for someone like me, or the countless other truth seekers in the UR commentariat, to come right out and call a spade a spade on matters like the 9/11 False Flag, the JFK coup d’etat, the Covid Psyop etc.
    We do not have a high public profile or a platform that is likely to reach a significant proportion of the unwashed masses. So we can say what we like and ZOG will pay no heed to it.
    It’s the same reason Dr Ron Paul, Glenn Greenwald or Julian Assange and Wikileaks never came out and admitted ZOG orchestration of these egregious crimes. Because, if they ever did, they would be dead in a heartbeat.
    FFS, look at Julian Assange. He came out with the release of something infinitely more tame than 9/11 (the Collateral Murder video that showed U.S helicopter gunships murdering innocent Iraqis), and they crucified him for that.

    Now, let me give you a real world example of someone with a high profile that was going to do something about 9/11. Senator Paul Wellstone was approached by various highly credentialled individuals with a hard science background and integrity*.
    (*ie: not Physicist Dovid. Although Dovid may have a degree, in the same manner that Tony Fauci has a degree, it’s of no use if Dovid and Fauci are paid to LIE on behalf of their Talmudic benefactors).
    These highly educated professionals furnished emphatic proof that 9/11 was an inside job, that the WTC towers and Bldg 7 were brought down in a controlled demolition.
    So, Wellstone was in the process of ordering a Congressional investigation.

    Well, ZOG didn’t take too kindly to that. So in October 2002 they killed Wellstone, his wife, daughter and a few of his Congressional staff for good measure.

    Got it now Marky ? This is a high stakes game. Anyone with the capacity to reveal the truth of 9/11 to a large audience will not be long for this world.

    Quite possibly, in the case of Ron Paul, upon his retirement from Congress, he may well have said to his friends and family that he didn’t have many years left, so it wouldn’t matter if they killed him after he came out publicly on the 9/11 False Flag.
    But his acquaintances talked him out of it and likely said stuff like:
    ‘We need you Dr Paul to spread the message of liberty, to campaign on Ending the Fed (seeing as the U.S Federal Reserve is that ‘River of Riches’ that enables ZOG to fund all this mischief).
    We need you Dr Paul to tell the citizenry of the world about the insanity of the murderous U.S foreign policy, the lies about the Ukraine proxy war or the Covid Psyop’.

    FACT: DR Ron Paul was the first high profile politician (past or present)/well known identity in the world to publicly call out the Covid Psyop as a hoax.
    He did this is MARCH 2020, when he produced a video literally a week or two after Trump called a national emergency and locked down the country. That was a display of REAL GUTS – and it no doubt inspired countless others to stick their necks out and do likewise in the months that followed.
    That video is called ‘The Coronavirus Hoax’ (brief video below):



    Video Link

    SUMMARY: I’m glad Ron Paul hasn’t come out on 9/11. Because he is of no use to society as a dead man.In the last decade or more Dr Paul has been on countless speaking tours, made numerous interviews, set up the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity, produced over 2000 episodes of The Ron Paul Liberty Report (nearly all of which I’ve watched).

    He doesn’t have to spell out that Malevolent International Jewry are the cabal of miscreants that own the Fed. It’s enough for him to say that it’s owned by a private cartel of bankers – which leaves us to ask the question: ‘WHO are the constituents of that cartel ?’ , and then we can do the easy part of investigating that matter for ourselves.

    Lastly, you talk about the difference in vaccination rates between Dem and GOP voters.
    I too saw large discrepancies, when polled, between the two groups when posed with the question (in the lead up to the vaccination rollout):
    ‘Do you intend to take the Covid jab?’

    And yes, far more GOP voters were against it than amongst Dems.
    But, when push came to shove, and said GOP voters were threatened with job loss and the other factors I mentioned (like pressure from a spouse to take it, or been assured by Trump that it’s OK for the MAGAts to get jabbed, etc), a lot of these GOP voters caved in and ended up getting the clot shots.

    In any case, even if 100% of GOP voters avoided it, as I said before, the mass cull of humanity was done on a worldwide scale. The U.S has only 4% of the world’s population, so what happened in America would not have interferred with the overall global agenda.

  634. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I would say more. The 17th century French aristocracy varied greatly in wealth, and its male members were prone to kill each other in duels – the death toll from that alone was in the thousands during the century and Louis XIV made largely unsuccessful efforts to stop them killing each other before they could get killed in his innumerable wars. The French aristocracy was also divided between “nobility of the sword” and “nobility of the robe” (the latter were commoners ennobled after performing work in administration and the civil service). The two groups hated each other. Basically not a very cohesive group.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  635. @PhysicistDave

    Thank you for the reply.

    I realize there’s no layer of CO2 high up in the atmosphere and that the presentations that show one are bogus. That’s part of the scam. That’s why I can’t believe that 4 one hundredths of 1% of CO2 can have a measurable effect on the atmosphere. CO2 is a heavy molecule, comparatively, and is more likely to stay at ground level just from the gravity perspective. Brownian motion also says it will forever mix with the other gases and won’t form a layer anywhere. Wind alone, the stratospheric jets, etc will keep things mixed up.

    I have yet to hear an explanation of how the CO2 molecule is insulated from using physical contact with other molecules to transfer it’s absorbed heat to them and to have them radiate it away into space. The characteristic of CO2, Methane and other gases to absorb a certain frequency of radiation is half the explanation. The other half should be that they will use the other means of heat transfer, convection and conduction, to transfer energy to, say oxygen (21%) and nitrogen (78%) and have them radiate the energy away.

    It’s the miniscule concentration of CO2 and other so called greenhouse gases that are given a power by the media and ‘climate scientists’ that is out of proportion to the CO2 concentration. If there were only 1 molecule of a ‘greenhouse gas’ in the atmosphere, would the claim still be made that it will cause a runaway greenhouse effect? I think not because that is laughable given the single molecule versus other molecules concentration. So at what point does ‘greenhouse gas’ concentration actually start having an effect? Is it 2 molecules, 20 molecules, 20 trillion molecules, where, and how does one even attempt to arrive at a number?

    The map is not the territory.
    Alfred Korzybski

    The lab is not the atmosphere. There’s no such thing as a physical ‘black box’. A contrived experiment isn’t capable of reproducing all the effects the atmosphere is subject to, so how can a supposed ‘climate scientist’ come up with a story of ‘global warming’ or the more modern version of ‘climate change’ and expect people to believe them when their tool of choice is a made up model. As a professional software developer, I understand ‘garbage in, garbage out’ and that’s what the whole climate scare sounds like to me. Take one characteristic, blow it out of proportion, construct computer models that agree with your theory and then say – look, the computer models says we’re all going to roast to death, especially when prior CO2 concentrations have been much higher and life still exists today.

    The whole thing just doesn’t add up.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  636. geokat62 says:

    Oops! Mea culpa. We forgot to hit “send,” goy…

    Telegram comment posted by Dr Michael Yeadon:

    They didn’t send the alert bc they thought it would cause panic.

    “The nation’s top public health agency did not send an alert on COVID-19 vaccines and heart inflammation because officials were concerned they would cause panic, according to an email obtained by The Epoch Times.

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in 2021 drafted an alert for heart inflammation, or myocarditis, and the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines. Officials prepared to release it to the public, taking steps including having the agency’s director review the language, internal documents show.

    The alert would have been sent through the CDC’s Health Alert System (HAN) network, which goes to state and local officials, as well as doctors, across the country.”

    Join ➣ 👉@COVID19VACCINEVICTIMSANDFAMILIES

    https://t.me/DrMikeYeadon/2186

  637. bjondo says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Rumor has it Biden is Catholic.

    Lying, stealing, deceiving, corruption beyond belief,
    complicit in massive number of killings are OT not NT.

    Verdict: both Yid. Toss in the hog Hagee for a jr minyan.

    5ds

  638. Ron Unz says:
    @Colin Wright

    ‘…But my background is in the hard sciences, and I like solving historical puzzles and clearing up mysteries. So in my writings I tend to analyze the evidence for what actually happened rather than presenting arguments intended to support some particular political strategy.’

    But — given the scale of collapse that is unfolding around us — is this still a moral position?

    Such a profession of intellectual detachment might have been defensible in 1998. I submit that now, it isn’t. The situation really is getting serious. Of course you will do as you see fit; however, I’m reluctant to agree that it’s just fine.

    Well, I do think there’s value in producing a detailed and accurate account of important past events, which seeks to absolutely minimize the distortions of propaganda. It seems to me at least someone should do that, and since I’m not aware of anyone else who has, I might as well do so.

    After all, there are huge numbers of activists doing exactly what you suggest, and surely they may benefit from having available a detailed record of what actually happened, which they can then trim, massage, distort, or invert in service to their own political goals.

    Anyway, it’s very difficult to be sure what political inputs will produce what policy output, given that there are so many examples of totally counter-productive strategies. So even if I wanted to adjust my described narrative to achieve desired political goals, it’s perfectly possible that the result would actually be the opposite of what I intended.

    • Replies: @H. L. M
  639. ‘Three US service members have been killed and “many” others wounded during an unmanned aerial drone attack on US forces stationed in northeastern Jordan near the Syrian border, President Joe Biden has said, blaming Iran-backed groups for the attack.

    “While we are still gathering the facts of this attack, we know it was carried out by radical Iran-backed militant groups operating in Syria and Iraq,” Biden said in a statement on Sunday…’

    Anything’s possible — but I’d bet on Israel.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  640. ‘Who’s a good girl, then? Who’s a good girl?’ [tail thumps floor]

    ‘Glenn Greenwald

    @ggreenwald
    ·
    1h
    Nancy Pelosi says that pro-Palestinians protesters and people calling for a cease-fire in Gaza are serving Putin, and calls on the FBI to investigate these protesters to see if they have a Kremlin connection…’

  641. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I am inclined to think it was a genuine attack – Israel and the US routinely attack in Syria, Lebanon etc. etc. and they are bound to get some return fire. Sooner or later.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  642. H. L. M says:
    @Ron Unz

    @Colin Wright is a fool.

    I personally wish you would work a little harder on your mission to correct the record.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  643. @Wielgus

    ‘I am inclined to think it was a genuine attack – Israel and the US routinely attack in Syria, Lebanon etc. etc. and they are bound to get some return fire. Sooner or later.’

    It’s unknowable — but Israel is hip-deep in alliance with Nusra or whatever, and this reads like the USS Liberty all over again. Israel’s at war and needs us to attack her enemy; she’s about to take on Hezbollah…

    Lindsey Graham et al pop right up, reading their cue cards…I’ll put my money on the ol’ Light Unto.

  644. @H. L. M

    ‘@Colin Wright is a fool…’

    I don’t recall talking to you. Did I take your parking place or something?

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
  645. I’ll be a monkey’s uncle…

    From the Jewish Telegraph Agency:

    ‘JTA reports: Billionaires backing her [Nikki Haley] are a who’s who of Jewish pro-Israel money…’

    Who’da thought?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  646. @RoatanBill

    RoatanBill wrote to me:

    I realize there’s no layer of CO2 high up in the atmosphere and that the presentations that show one are bogus. That’s part of the scam.

    No, it is not “part of the scam.” It is just your misunderstanding.

    In schematic diagrams, people (and young kids) tend to draw the sky as a layer up above the ground. But, of course, in some sense “the sky” just starts at ground level. We expect people to understand this.

    It’s your fault you got confused by this.

    RoatanBill also wrote:

    That’s why I can’t believe that 4 one hundredths of 1% of CO2 can have a measurable effect on the atmosphere.

    Well, you’re wrong: you probably also cannot believe that the so-called “twin paradox” occurs in Special Relativity. But it does.

    Reality does not care about what you can believe, I’m afraid.

    RoatanBill also wrote:

    I have yet to hear an explanation of how the CO2 molecule is insulated from using physical contact with other molecules to transfer it’s absorbed heat to them and to have them radiate it away into space. The characteristic of CO2, Methane and other gases to absorb a certain frequency of radiation is half the explanation. The other half should be that they will use the other means of heat transfer, convection and conduction, to transfer energy to, say oxygen (21%) and nitrogen (78%) and have them radiate the energy away

    Well, yes, that can happen, but if the CO2 molecule transfers its heat to other molecules, the atmosphere becomes a bit warmer — hence, global warming. Won’t the heat end up getting radiated into space? Sure, but in the meantime more infrared photons are absorbed by the CO2 and the atmosphere continues being heated. It’s a dynamic ongoing process, leading to a permanently warmer atmosphere.

    But that is not in fact the main mechanism. The main mechanism is that the CO2 molecule absorbs an infra-red (IR) photon radiated by the ground and then re-emits an IR photon. This secondary photon might be re-radiated onward into space, but it also might be re-radiated back down towards the ground.

    When the latter occurs, it heats up the ground compared to what it otherwise would be.

    Of course, the re-radiated photon, if radiated upwards, might get captured by another CO2 molecule, which in turn might re-radiate it either upwards or downwards. And so on.

    This process is described by what is known as “the diffusion equation,” which is a mainstay in junior-level math courses for majors in the hard STEM subjects — physics, math, and engineering.

    It is very, very well understood: I assure you that the climate modelers know how to model this mathematically.

    RoatanBill also wrote:

    It’s the miniscule concentration of CO2 and other so called greenhouse gases that are given a power by the media and ‘climate scientists’ that is out of proportion to the CO2 concentration. If there were only 1 molecule of a ‘greenhouse gas’ in the atmosphere, would the claim still be made that it will cause a runaway greenhouse effect?

    No — of course, we do not have a “runaway greenhouse effect.” As the ground heats up further, it radiates more IR photons, and enough of those escape into space to reach an equilibrium higher temperature.

    Hence, global warming.

    The effect of CO2 alone is indeed rather modest. But the slight increase in temperature due to the increased CO2 concentration has feedback effects: in particular, the absolute concentration of water vapor (the absolute humidity) increases as temperature increases, and this further warms the earth, because water vapor is in fact a strong greenhouse gas.

    On the other hand, the higher humidity causes increased cloud cover: it turns out that some types of clouds further trap IR photons, thereby further amplifying greenhouse warming, whereas some other types of clouds increase the reflectivity of the earth (the albedo), thereby decreasing the warming effect.

    The net balance of these various “feedback” effects is quite complex, and it is this that climate scientists have legitimate debates about.

    The science is not settled: we do not know how much warming we get from anthropogenic CO2. But the science is settled that we get some warming from anthropogenic CO2 — we’re just not sure how much.

    RoatanBill also wrote:

    As a professional software developer, I understand ‘garbage in, garbage out’ and that’s what the whole climate scare sounds like to me. Take one characteristic, blow it out of proportion, construct computer models that agree with your theory and then say – look, the computer models says we’re all going to roast to death, especially when prior CO2 concentrations have been much higher and life still exists today.

    But no legitimate scientist believes that we are going to “roast to death” or that we face a “runaway greenhouse effect.” That’s just nonsense spouted by the news media morons.

    The argument is over how many more degrees Celsius will the globe warm — one degree more (then who cares?) or five degrees more (this would cause some problems — though it would not destroy the biosphere)?

    Do some climate scientists have too much faith in their computer models?

    Sure, humans — especially smart humans, perhaps — have a tendency to be overly self-confident.

    But the big problem is not that they are using computer models but rather that some aspects of the physics –most notably clouds — are very, very complex.

    My best friend from high school was involved in some of the early work in modeling clouds way back in the 1970s: he was very pessimistic then, a pessimism that has been born out by experience.

    The problem is that the important aspects of clouds range from the scale of nucleation of small droplets all the way up to the scale of the overall size of the clouds.. You can’t have a grid size that adequately models all aspects of the problem.

    It’s a mess.

    So, no, don’t trust the models — they are useful research tools, but they cannot be trusted for predictions of the future.

    Nonetheless, it is true beyond reasonable doubt that anthropogenic CO2 does have some warming effect on the planet.

    How much?

    No one really knows.

    Dave

  647. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote:

    I’ll be a monkey’s uncle…

    From the Jewish Telegraph Agency:

    ‘JTA reports: Billionaires backing her [Nikki Haley] are a who’s who of Jewish pro-Israel money…’

    Who’da thought?

    The Donald’s instincts are towards peace, though not always consistently so.

    Nikki’s instincts are towards war.

    The Israel Lobby does not want peace — at least, not until Israel starts losing.

    If the Donald wins the nomination, as now seems likely, that will be proof that the Jews do not in fact completely run the country, now won’t it?

    Of course, maybe he’ll face the fate of JFK and Epstein: I have a liberal friend who is afraid we really are moving towards civil war.

  648. @PhysicistDave

    I didn’t get confused by the typical drawings showing a blanketing effect; I got angry at the attempted confidence trick against the mostly non STEM public.

    You brushed away the .04% percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere as having a measurable effect by hand waving that was unconvincing.

    Your explanation of the proposed mechanism for how CO2 does the heating is the one commonly provided but, again, doesn’t include a measurable effect as in a way to empirically test the phenomenon of its heating or the phenomenon I suggested where 2500 times as many non CO2 molecules absorb that above average ambient point heat and they radiate it back to space as is their practice. That there is a left over heating component is obvious, but the question is at what effect. It’s the .04% number again. All that photon bouncing around mechanism doesn’t provide any way of measuring its effect.

    I never claimed we had a runaway greenhouse effect but that is what the media is implying unless we spend billions to trillions on an, so far, unmeasurable effect of a theorized mechanism.

    Then we get to water vapor which is a far more potent and prevalent GHG. I originally wondered why it was CO2 that got tagged as the bad guy in the global warming scare when humid air is a far better candidate due to concentration. But then I realized that making clouds the villain and a call to minimize them would be too ridiculous to propose. It was invisible CO2 that we humans outgas as a life function as well as by consuming hydrocarbon fuels that was focused on as the perfect control mechanism for gov’t to write more regulations and pass more laws to try to minimize an essential gas that they know can’t reasonably be minimized in the current industrial setting. Most of humanity believes in an invisible sky god, so relying on more unreasonable belief to help bamboozle the public makes sense. CO2 is the perfect patsy for the control that the WEF and all gov’ts want more of and they got the climate priests to conjure up models, none of them even close to accurate for prediction, for the purpose.

    I’m glad to see that you don’t support the settled science mantra, or model prediction efficacy since what the climate modelers have at present isn’t as much science as it is religion, a belief system that is regularly found lacking year after year.

    How much?

    No one really knows.

    There’s that .04% CO2 concentration again.

    Thank you for your input. You’ve told me that my understanding of the issue is all there is to comprehend at present and that the climate agenda has little to do with actual science but everything to do with coercion, control and the transfer of wealth from the general population to the oligarchy that controls the world.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  649. @PhysicistDave

    Physicist Dovid partially justifies the falsehoods being propagated by those unscrupulous ‘scientists’ in the employ of ZOG that are propagating Climate Alarmism, when he writes:

    I assure you that the climate modelers know how to model this mathematically.
    As the ground heats up further, it radiates more IR photons …… Hence, global warming.

    Nonetheless, it is true beyond reasonable doubt that anthropogenic CO2 does have some warming effect on the planet.

    Question: If the Climate modellers know how to model mathematically, WHY THE EFF have all their predictions for temperature rises been off by multiple standard deviations ?
    Answer: Because they don’t know sh*t. They’re making it up on the fly and greatly exaggerating the effect of the feedback loops that never come to fruition.

    The last statement of yours in the blockquote above is much closer to being wrong than right.
    The fact is that the CO2 in the atmosphere has increased from around 280 ppm 150 years ago to just over 400 ppm today, but the vast majority of that increase is DUE TO NATURAL CAUSES. (ie: not man-made and thus not anthropogenic).
    Natural causes like volcanic activity and Outgassing etc. (The latter refers to the well known phenomenon in chemistry, whereby if a gas is dissolved in a liquid, a rise in temperature entails that this gas is released into the atmosphere. As the temperature increases, more gas is released into the atmosphere).

    Of course, translating that to the world today, the gas I refer to is CO2, and gargantuan quantities of it are dissolved in the world’s oceans. When the average earth temp rose as we came out of the little Ice Age (which occurred around 1600 – 1850), naturally we’d expect the CO2 levels to rise.
    As the ice core samples unambiguously demonstrate, the temperature of the Earth rises FIRST, and only THEN does the CO2 in the atmosphere rise some time later – with a considerable lag.
    This is the OPPOSITE of what the ZOG employed ‘Climate Scientists’ are saying, who claim that WE humans create the excess CO2, and that temperature increases follow as a consequence.

    In other words, the corrupt ZOG employed ‘Climate Scientists’, have Cause and Effect arse backwards.

    Of course the REAL reasons that the Earth experienced temperature fluctuations throughout its history (as it went in and out of Ice Ages), had nothing to do with anthropogenic causes. They were caused by:

    1) Solar activity
    2) The natural variability of the Earth’s tilt on its axis
    3) The natural variability of the Earth’s elliptical path around the sun etc.

    We KNOW that CO2 concentrations are a NEGLIGIBLE factor in determining average Earth temperature, because some millions of years ago we had a situation where the CO2 was between 2000 – 3000 ppm (ie: 5 to 7 times more than it is now), yet the Earth went into an Ice Age, where most of the land mass was under kilometres thick of ice !!

    Anyway, for the truth about Climate change, let’s go to a REAL physicist, someone with integrity that is not beholden to his ZOG benefactors (like our resident disinformer Dovid Miller).
    And yes, you doubters out there, it is appropriate to reference this particular physicist (Princeton’s Professor Emeritus William Happer), because he is the world’s leading authority on the PHYSICS of CARBON DIOXIDE.
    Click on the link below and watch the video contained therein:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/01/joseph-mercola/carbon-dioxide-the-gas-of-life/

    Prof. Happer estimates that we ‘may’ (ie: worst case scenario), get a 0.7 degree C rise in the Earth temp if there is a DOUBLING OF CO2. (ie: it would have to go up to 800 ppm).
    But, even if CO2 doubled, he also says (taken from the article in the link above):

    So, the 0.7 degree C of warming you get when you double the CO2 is “probably an overestimate,” Happer says, “because there are probably negative feedbacks operating in this very complicated climate system that we live in. The atmosphere, the oceans, everything is nonlinear.”

    SUMMARY: The concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere may or may not get up to 800 ppm at some point in the future, But IF it does, it will not be man-made (for the most part).
    That’s because, of the increases of CO2 we’ve been subject to since humans entered the Industrial Revolution and beyond, WE HUMANS ONLY CONTRIBUTED A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE INCREASE FROM 280 ppm to just over 400 ppm today.

    More importantly, let’s hope we get beyond 800 ppm, and reach the sweet spot of 1000 – 1200 ppm, which would turn the Earth into a lush tropical paradise with only a negligible increase in average Earth temps*.
    Because CO2 at this level would VASTLY increase agricultural output per hectare of arable land and enable us to feed multiples of the present world population.

    (*Also, if the average Earth temp rose by say 1 – 2 degrees C, this does not mean that this increase is uniformly distributed around the planet.
    Temp increases in the equatorial and temperate regions would be infinitesimal. The increases will be more pronounced in the polar regions, thus converting vast tracts of land that are presently permafrost into farmland.
    It would be a massive WIN/WIN for the planet).

    Of course the ZOG owned MSM/prognosticators of gloom and doom in ZOG controlled western academia, will never tell you that.
    (You can bet that our mendacious Jewish friend Dovid Miller won’t be telling you that either).

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  650. @PhysicistDave

    ‘The Israel Lobby does not want peace — at least, not until Israel starts losing.’

    There might be a pause — but in the end, they’ll still want war.

    It’s my belief that Israel will always need conflict. If it isn’t forthcoming, she starts to disintegrate. So, inevitably, she seeks it. There isn’t sufficient glue there to make a nation otherwise.

    It is this that makes her literally evil. She makes the world a worse place; she always will, and this cannot be changed except with her elimination.

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    , @Wielgus
  651. @PhysicistDave

    If the Donald wins the nomination, as now seems likely, that will be proof that the Jews do not in fact completely run the country, now won’t it?

    No, it will tell us nothing of the sort.

    We’ve already had one term of Donald J Chump, where he delivered everything on the agenda of his ZOG benefactors, with compound interest added. It’ll be a CONFIRMATION that the cartel of Jewish bankers do indeed run the Anglo Zionist empire.

    Meanwhile, earlier in this thread I posted a ton of proof that the surname Miller is an anglicised handle adopted by more than a few Jews (as our pretend physicist Dovid Miller’s forebears also adopted).
    With that in mind, let’s watch this 3 min video titled ‘So Baby Killing Is Okay?’: Matthew Miller Clashes With Reporter Over Israeli Retaliatory Strikes’ in his role as a State Dept spokesman:

    Yes folks, yet another member of the (((tribe))) called Miller, yet another apologist for ZOG.
    You’ll notice that the mendacious Matthew Miller is being grilled by Max Blumenthal – another Jew. Of course the latter has demonstrated his bona fides as someone of unimpeachable integrity, someone I have the utmost respect for.
    So this is not a question of Jew bashing. I’d have no problem if Dovid Miller (aka pretend Physicist Dovid), was speaking the truth and working to bring about the demise of ZOG, as all decent people would wish.

    I do not single people out for being Jewish, I single them out for being LIARS – irrespective of ethnicity.
    And Dovid Miller is every but as dishonest as shabbos goys like Joe Biden, Gavin Newsom, Lindsey Graham, Dick Cheney, Nancy Pelosi, Tony Blair, Justin Trudeau and Donald J Chump.
    All the sock puppets of ZOG above, are worthy of condemnation, perhaps to an even greater extent than the Jews.
    Meanwhile, Matthew Miller is up to his old tricks again in this video (watch from 1:30 – 3:50):

    Yes, that Miller that looks/acts Jewish, is something that cannot be denied.
    And our Dovid Miller exhibits all the characteristics of being a mendacious Jew. The obvious clue is his knee-jerk reaction in defending the crimes of the Anglo Zionist empire*.

    (*Sure, he’ll make token concessions like saying that the Izzies are committing genocide in Gaza or claiming ‘The Deep State’ and Big Government should be abolished, to give the appearance that he’s not fully pro-establishment).
    But that’s how propagandists work. They suck you in by making token gestures of condemnation for the globalists, or some oligarch or other. But you’ll NEVER hear Dovid Miller call out ZOG in relation to 9/11 or the Covid Psyop. Never on the big issues.

    That’s the telltale sign. Many of you have been fooled by him, suggesting how gullible you are.
    But he is totally transparent to me. There’s no mistaking who he is and who goes in to bat for.

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  652. Caroline says:
    @Ron Unz

    During the course of the previous century, the Jewish population of Russia had undergone one of the greatest population explosions in world history, increasing perhaps as much as ten-fold in about 100 years. This produced a great deal of economic misery since the Jews had completely outgrown their traditional middle-man employment niches and refused to enter agriculture or other primary producer roles. So there’s some evidence that the Jewish press enormously exaggerated the 1880s riots in order to persuade Britain and other countries to open their doors to heavy Jewish immigration, thereby providing a relief-valve for such huge Jewish overpopulation.

    Is it possible, that something similar happened with regards to the Holocaust and Jewish emigration from Poland?
    What was the reason given why so many Jews “had to leave” Poland after WW2 for the US and Israel? From what I have read the percentage of Jews in Poland went from nearly 10 percent before WW2 to less than half a percent in the 1950ies.
    I do not think, that the Polish regime after WW2 was particularly hostile to the Jews, since it was a puppet of the Soviets and the Jews were trusted enough to be the majority in the Polish secret police (I read somehwere, that in post-WW2-Poland they were 0.2% of the population and 60% of the members of the secret police, which is in line with countries like Hungary etc.)

    A couple weeks ago I read a from a British who travelled Poland in 1938 (“Poland from the inside” by Bertram de Colonna). In his book he casually mentions, that the majority of Jews in Poland are unemployed. If they had outgrown their economic niche in Russia at 4% of the population, how much worse must it have been more than double the percentage?

  653. @RoatanBill

    RoatanBill wrote to me:

    I didn’t get confused by the typical drawings showing a blanketing effect; I got angry at the attempted confidence trick against the mostly non STEM public.

    Why is a drawing that shows the sky being above the earth a “confidence trick”?

    That is just a standard convention in drawing that everyone should understand.

    RoatanBill also wrote:

    You brushed away the .04% percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere as having a measurable effect by hand waving that was unconvincing.

    Well, you don’t like science — not my fault. It is convincing to anyone who (legitimately) passed frosh physics. If it is not convincing to you, there is not much I can do about that.

    We scientists can measure the behavior of CO2 in the lab. That gives us the info needed to calculate the effect in the atmosphere.

    You don’t like that? Not our fault.

    RoatanBill also wrote:

    Your explanation of the proposed mechanism for how CO2 does the heating is the one commonly provided but, again, doesn’t include a measurable effect as in a way to empirically test the phenomenon of its heating or the phenomenon I suggested where 2500 times as many non CO2 molecules absorb that above average ambient point heat and they radiate it back to space as is their practice. That there is a left over heating component is obvious, but the question is at what effect…

    You still misunderstand: it is not “left over heating”: it is photons that are re-radiated back down to the ground and heat the ground up.

    How do we measure this? It is very, very, very basic physics: we know how to calculate this with as great an accuracy as you wish.

    You don’t trust our calculations? Then you should not ride on an airplane — or a roller coaster — because those too rely on such calculations. Indeed, the airplane and roller-coaster calculations are far more complex and far less reliable than the greenhouse effect.

    You seem to be focused on how we can measure the proven mechanism in the atmosphere. We measure the properties of CO2 in the lab and then calculate what will happen in the atmosphere.

    If you don’t like this… well, tough.

    That is how science works.

    And this use of science is quite elementary.

    You are illustrating the point I made above in the beginning of our conversation here: why guys like you have trouble getting “credentialed scientists” to engage you — it always ends up like this.

    We try to explain very straightforward and obvious science, that should be self-evident to anyone who (legitimately) passed frosh physics, and then you guys inform us that we are just not doing it right.

    And all we can really do is suggest that you sue the university that gave you a passing grade in frosh physics for educational malpractice!

    Not much else we can do. The basic science here is ironclad.

    You don’t believe it? Consider retaking frosh physics.

  654. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘The Israel Lobby does not want peace — at least, not until Israel starts losing.’

    [Colin] There might be a pause — but in the end, they’ll still want war.

    It’s my belief that Israel will always need conflict. If it isn’t forthcoming, she starts to disintegrate. So, inevitably, she seeks it. There isn’t sufficient glue there to make a nation otherwise.

    Well… I assume you are referring to the conflict between the Ashkenazim and the Mizrahim, reflected of course in Netanyahu’s legal troubles and his attempt to change their judicial system.

    It may well be that Netanyahu does indeed dread peace simply because he does not want to go to jail!

    But I have knows several Israelis, and I can assure you that the average man on the street — especially the average Israeli mom! — does not want war.

    What they do want is for the Palestinians to just go away.

    Which is not going to happen.

    There of course is an obvious solution that I myself proposed over forty years ago in the opinion piece to which I linked above (again, see here on page 4): give equal rights to Arabs and Jews in the entire land “from the river to the Sea.”

    But the Zionists reject this only hope for peace, because the Palestinians are outbreeding them and would soon be the majority.

    So the killing will continue, not because most people on either side really want it, but because the Zionists are afraid to do what is needed to stop it.

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  655. I see you’re a sophist as well as a physicist.

    It’s not a drawing that shows the sky being above the earth, but a drawing of a blanket of CO2 at the top of the atmosphere, may times drawn in red, where the suggestion is that it has the power to contain the heat under it. This is a confidence trick; a purposeful manipulation to influence the average person by fraudulent means.

    You didn’t even try to explain the .04% figure’s effect. You just used an analogy that was inappropriate so as to avoid touching the primary problem with the CO2 narrative which is it’s miniscule concentration. No one would claim CO2 has any measurable effect on the climate if there were only one CO2 molecule in existence. If half the atmosphere were CO2, no one would try to claim it didn’t have a major influence. The entire issue is the concentration, and at .04% no one has so far shown empirically that it has the power claimed by the climate priests.

    You’re condescendingly telling me I don’t understand something is in error. I do understand that there is a net gain in heating by all the photons being reradiated but there is no empirical proof of what this net heating amounts to. BTW I’m an electrical engineer besides a professional software developer and I did take the physics, chemistry and other courses to have a decent understanding of the issues involved. As far a riding in an airplane, it’s the engineers that designed and built them so I have every confidence in them. I even own one.

    Climate is probably the most chaotic system known so what someone does in a controlled lab environment can only go so far. The reason the models don’t work very well is because no one understands all the mechanisms at play. To say we do lab experiments and then extrapolate those results to the real world isn’t confidence building; quite the opposite. If this were straightforward and obvious physics, then the models would work, wouldn’t they?

    You’ve shown me that I do understand the issue since you haven’t provided any new insights. I’ll thank you for corroborating what I suspected and I won’t bother you again as I’m not interested in being talked down to by someone that hasn’t a better handle on the issue than I have.

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  656. @Truth Vigilante

    My goofy little pal Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    [TV] Physicist Dovid partially justifies the falsehoods being propagated by those unscrupulous ‘scientists’ in the employ of ZOG that are propagating Climate Alarmism, when he writes:

    [Dave] I assure you that the climate modelers know how to model this mathematically.
    As the ground heats up further, it radiates more IR photons …… Hence, global warming.

    Nonetheless, it is true beyond reasonable doubt that anthropogenic CO2 does have some warming effect on the planet.

    [The goofy little guy] Question: If the Climate modellers know how to model mathematically, WHY THE EFF have all their predictions for temperature rises been off by multiple standard deviations ?

    You cut-and-pasted things out of context, without indicating what you did.

    Anyone who actually reads my comment will see that I was claiming that the climate modelers know how to precisely model the diffusion equation.

    And that is quite true.

    I then went on to explain in detail that they do not know how to model the positive and negative feedback effects due to clouds accurately. And, as I explained, that is a a big problem. And that is why, to use your words, ” all their predictions for temperature rises been off.”

    I explained all that in detail.

    The little fella also wrote:

    The fact is that the CO2 in the atmosphere has increased from around 280 ppm 150 years ago to just over 400 ppm today, but the vast majority of that increase is DUE TO NATURAL CAUSES. (ie: not man-made and thus not anthropogenic).

    In fact, we have pretty good estimates of how much CO2 humans have added to the atmosphere during the last couple of centuries. The increase in atmospheric CO2 is actually less than what we have added!

    So, where did the excess go? Probably most went into the the ocean. Some may have been absorbed into increased plant cover or by photosynthetic bacteria. In the very long term, something like 98 percent of it will end up in the ocean, but that takes quite a while.

    Anyway, no need to invoke natural causes to explain the increase in CO2 in the last couple centuries. We’ve put out at least that much.

    The sweet little guy also wrote:

    Prof. Happer estimates that we ‘may’ (ie: worst case scenario), get a 0.7 degree C rise in the Earth temp if there is a DOUBLING OF CO2. (ie: it would have to go up to 800 ppm).
    But, even if CO2 doubled, he also says (taken from the article in the link above):

    So, the 0.7 degree C of warming you get when you double the CO2 is “probably an overestimate,” Happer says, “because there are probably negative feedbacks operating in this very complicated climate system that we live in. The atmosphere, the oceans, everything is nonlinear.”

    Could be: no one really knows.

    My little buddy also wrote:

    (*Also, if the average Earth temp rose by say 1 – 2 degrees C, this does not mean that this increase is uniformly distributed around the planet.
    Temp increases in the equatorial and temperate regions would be infinitesimal. The increases will be more pronounced in the polar regions, thus converting vast tracts of land that are presently permafrost into farmland.
    It would be a massive WIN/WIN for the planet).

    Well… if there are drastic changes in climate — and we don’t know if that is going to happen (I kinda doubt it, but, again, no one really knows) — it will be good in some areas, bad in others.

    As you say, the polar regions should warm much more than the tropics.

    On the other hand, there would probably be more rainfall in some areas, less in others. If the Sahara becomes well-watered (as it once was), that would be good. But if Nebraska and Kansas become as dry as the Sahara now is… well, not so good.

    We humans are kinda okay with the planet as it is. Making drastic changes will be… inconvenient.

    But, perhaps there will not really be dramatic changes in climate at all.

    You know, this is an interesting and difficult field of scientific research. Your blowing your top at me because I simply point out the very, very large uncertainties in terms of predictions of the future…

    Well, okay, your behavior is amusing.

    Which, after all, is why Ron Unz keeps you around, little pal!

    Your favorite neighborhood heroic Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  657. @RoatanBill

    RoatanBill wrote to me:

    I see you’re a sophist as well as a physicist.

    It’s not a drawing that shows the sky being above the earth, but a drawing of a blanket of CO2 at the top of the atmosphere, may times drawn in red, where the suggestion is that it has the power to contain the heat under it. This is a confidence trick; a purposeful manipulation to influence the average person by fraudulent means.

    Well, I suspect that whoever made the diagram assumed that most people were more intelligent than you are.

    Bill also wrote:

    You didn’t even try to explain the .04% figure’s effect. You just used an analogy that was inappropriate so as to avoid touching the primary problem with the CO2 narrative which is it’s miniscule concentration.

    That is what I am trying to get through to you: that is not an analogy, much less an inappropriate one. It is just a description of what actually happens.

    But you know so little about physics that you cannot grasp that!

    Bill also wrote:

    The entire issue is the concentration, and at .04% no one has so far shown empirically that it has the power claimed by the climate priests.

    That is just false: we take empirical data in the lab and use it to calculate what happens in the atmosphere.

    That’s science.

    Bill also wrote:

    BTW I’m an electrical engineer besides a professional software developer and I did take the physics, chemistry and other courses to have a decent understanding of the issues involved.

    And I am telling you that you really should sue for educational malpractice: you should not have been given passing grades in those courses, as shown by the fact that you persist in thinking that my description of the basic physics is an “analogy.”

    It is not.

    Bil also wrote:

    If this were straightforward and obvious physics, then the models would work, wouldn’t they?

    I went into that in great detail: I explained that the warming effect of the CO2 alone is very, very well understood, but that the positive and negative feedback effects of clouds are real monsters to try to model.

    It is what it is.

    The jerk also wrote:

    I won’t bother you again as I’m not interested in being talked down to by someone that hasn’t a better handle on the issue than I have.

    Anyone who looks back at the beginning of our exchange will see that I wrote there:

    You are going to have a great deal of trouble getting any “credentialed scientist” to discuss this with you in any detail, because a lot of us have tried to do this in forums like this and have been met with a huge amount of verbal abuse and hatred.

    We just don’t need that. We normally get paid good money to make use of our knowledge and expertise, and, while we may be willing to contribute to public forums like this on occasion for free, we do not feel like doing this when we are not treated with even the minimum of courtesy and respect.

    You have again proven that point: for example, by insisting that my description of what actually happens is an “analogy.”

    You are a pompous, ignorant, incompetent fool.

    You really, truly should sue whatever school passed you in basic STEM courses for educational malpractice!

    Thanks for proving my point about rude, obnoxious idiots like you on the Web. I was pretty sure that was what you were, but I decided to let you prove it.

    And you did.

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  658. ’30 bodies left in plastic body bags were discovered in the Khalifa bin Zayed school in Beit Lahia in the northern #Gaza Strip following the Israeli army withdrawal.

    Their hands were tied behind their backs, their eyes covered with cloth, and their bodies concealed in zip-up bags buried under the sand…’

  659. The only real problem that I see is that still more Haitians might wind up coming here.

  660. @PhysicistDave

    … the killing will continue, not because most people on either side really want it, but because the Zionists are afraid to do what is needed to stop it.’

    No…this isn’t the first time Israel has responded to internal conflict by attacking a neighbor.

    A decade or two back, rent protests were spinning out of hand. Huge crowds in the streets.

    Presto — a group of terrorists rather suspiciously manage to cross the border from Sinai undetected and kill half a dozen Israel soldiers…what was supposed to happen this time, I suspect.

    But anyway, Israel is under attack! The protests promptly cease and everyone rushes to the ramparts. As it happened, the attack occurred nowhere’s near Gaza — about half-way down the border with the Sinai peninsula.

    No matter. It was Hamas! Six or seven hundred dead later, Israel’s blood lust is appeased — and the protests are forgotten.

    Now, the average Israeli may ‘want peace.’ I hold that doesn’t matter. The dynamic of Israeli society is such that there is always internal stress, and the solution to that stress is always to seek external conflict. Very noticeably, Israel has always had enemies, and if one is subdued, another is sought. Peace is made with the Egyptians, and conflict is engineered with the Palestinians. The Palestinians are clubbed into submission, and Lebanon is invaded. Lebanon is abandoned, and a fight is picked with Iran. Syria…Iraq…frigging Tunisia. Israel bombed Tunisia. If Israel were a dog, we’d diagnose her as having rabies and put her down.

    If we do commit the greatest crime since Hitler and reduce Iran to a wasteland at Israel’s bidding, think that will be the end?

    Naw…I’d guess Israel will pick a fight with Turkey.

    There can never be peace so long as Israel exists. That’s my suspicion. Even if you have met nice Israelis.

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  661. Israel ‘most likely’ dropped 1,000 pound bomb on UK doctors in Gaza, UN finds’

    Doctors, shmoctors. They wouldn’t have been in Gaza in the first place if they hadn’t been antisemites.

  662. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Dr Roger Hodkinson:

    UK HAS A PROBLEM: Excess deaths are up a staggering 22% among 1 to 14-year-olds.

    Notably, this trend didn’t start until “the magic juice started to be issued to children later in 2021.”

    2020: 9 percent fewer deaths than expected
    2021: 7 percent fewer deaths than expected
    2022: 16 percent MORE deaths than expected
    2023: 22 percent MORE deaths than expected

    Furthermore, “Figures from the Office for National Statistics show about 10% more deaths (across all age groups) than expected since April this year.”

    UK health officials believe “circulatory diseases and diabetes are … behind the increase.”

    Join 👉 https://t.me/RogerHodkinson

    https://t.me/RogerHodkinson/2226

  663. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    A book or booklet in English but probably published in Israel, was entitled Born In Battle.It was a highly laudatory account of the history and organisation of the IDF. The title is significant. The IDF and Israel were born from war and I suspect cannot exist without it.

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  664. bjondo says:
    @Wielgus

    The IDF and Israel were born from war and I suspect cannot exist without it.

    Maybe war was born from them. Yid certainly requires violence to exist.

    Of course, I don’t know.

    5ds

  665. @MoFo-Bill

    The following comment is a reply to the post below from another UR thread (I put it here because Ron Unz threatened to trash off topic comments and this is, after all, an ‘Open Thread’):

    https://www.unz.com/runz/prof-john-beaty-and-the-true-origin-of-the-jews/#comment-6394452

    In that comment, a particular MoFo called Bill (who uses the handle MoFo-Bill), wrote:

    Commodity money (gold) in Rome, brought Rome’s monetary independence to an end. Once reduced to using commodity, Rome was on a never ending quest for precious metals – a great waste of resources and misdirection of energy.

    The MoFo has demonstrated on countless occasions that he’s economically illiterate, but this comment of his is among the most stupid.
    There was no need for Rome to embark on a ‘never ending quest for precious metals’.
    It’s the same asinine argument that Jews use to smear the Gold Standard today.
    They say we can’t go on to a Gold Standard because there is not enough Gold in the world to cover all the currency in circulation.

    Of course, the only reason for that is because ZOG manipulates and artificially suppresses the price of Gold (and silver). In a genuine free market, the price of gold would rise to reflect that amount of currency that was printed/digitally conjured into existence.
    In other words, assuming a situation where NOT A SINGLE GRAM of gold was extracted from the Earth from now until the end of time, there would still be MORE THAN ENOUGH GOLD TO ENABLE A FUNCTIONING PRECIOUS METALS STANDARD.
    That’s because any combination of these things would occur:

    1) The value of gold (and silver) would be repriced upwards to reflect its true value, OR ,,,,
    2) The amount of currency in the world would be reduced, so that it was in equilibrium with the amount of precious metals, OR …
    3) Both of the above measures would be initiated.

    Similarly, the Roman empire could have revalued the price of gold upwards (entailing a ‘devaluation’ of their coins in circulation), by REDUCING the amount of gold or silver in a particular coin and thus REMOVING the need for further imperialism/looting/conquering of other societies.
    This is in fact what they eventually did (refer to the excerpt below from the sage Bill Bonner):

    Without the booty — especially slaves — coming in from new conquests, Rome too had to turn to monetary policy. It shaved down the value of the Roman currency — the silver denarius.
    It was 95% silver when Augustus introduced it. A century later, in the time of Trajan, it was only about 85% silver, and the silver kept disappearing.
    By the time of Caracalla, who took over a century later, the coin was reduced to only 50% silver.
    Then, by 268, there was hardly any silver in it at all.

    When the money goes, everything goes. The Empire was then beset by corruption and civil war. It limped along for nearly 200 years more…one calamity after another…until it was finally conquered by ‘barbarians’.

    This is the template that FDR followed in 1933, when he devalued the USD by increasing the price of gold from $20.67/oz to $35/oz.
    This ‘increased value of gold in USD terms had the effect of sucking in gold from all around the world. In other words:

    THE U.S GOT A HUGE INFLOW OF GOLD TONNAGE WITHOUT* THE NEED TO MAKE WAR because foreign holders of gold could now get more USD in exchange for each ounce of gold they possessed.

    (*Even though the USD didn’t become the solitary world reserve currency until Bretton Woods in 1944, between the wars it was still the de facto reserve currency of the world alongside the GBP, and thus had the productive/manufacturing capacity to make such a move that would attract this inflow of gold).
    Obviously a country like Burkina Faso today, could devalue its currency Vs Gold to kingdom come, but there would be no inflow of gold. That’s because holders of gold do not want the currency it issues.

    Needless to say, the Roman Empire was the preeminent empire of its era and could do likewise.
    More importantly, MoFo-Bill pretends that any country under a Gold Standard, must keep conquering/looting the resources of other countries to keep the system functioning.
    This is the sort of misdirection I’d expect from a groupie of the failed economist/Marxist Michael Hudson.

    MoFo-Bill, like his ZOG sponsors, advocates for a Fiat Monetary system, because one can create currency ad infinitum to fund the endless wars and malfeasance of ZOG (it cost a ton of moolah to stage the 9/11 False Flag, the JFK coup d’etat, to subsidise the existence of the Apartheid Israeli state, to pay off all the western politicians and health bureaucracies to perpetrate the Covid Psyop on the world).

    SUMMARY: Because the amount if gold and silver is finite, IT FORCES SOCIETIES TO EXERCISE RETRAINT, to act prudently in fiscal and monetary matters.
    Whether that be in regards to funding the endless wars, squandering trillions on the non-problem of Anthropogenic Global Warming or whatever grandiose and commercially unviable boondoggle an incompetent politician or bureaucrat dreams up to flush precious taxpayers money down a rat hole.

    Needless to say, under a Gold Standard (a core component of the Libertarian model), we are far more likely to see:
    ‘Peace, Commerce and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliance with none’, exactly as Thomas Jefferson envisaged. (Jefferson was instrumental in ensuring that the U.S was on a Gold Standard because he knew that it would deliver prosperity).

    Of course, I would not advocate doing what Rome did. ie: continued devaluation/loss of purchasing power of your currency by devaluing it Vs Gold.
    The OBVIOUS solution for us today (as it would have been for Rome 2000 years ago), is to LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS.
    ie: abandon those foolish imperialistic ventures of yours, bring back the troops stationed in over 900 bases in 130 countries, as Dr Ron Paul has lobbied for over 50 years.
    The Anglo Zionist empire should stop the wars and learn to live with theirr neighbours, conducting peaceful trade.

    MoFo-Bill detests such an outcome. Big Government authoritarians like him NEED to micromanage the lives of others. Because he’s a failure in life, shunned by women, he needs to lord over the rest of us – just like his ZOG benefactors,
    That can only be done under a Fiat Monetary system.

    MoFo-Bill, as your handle would suggest, you are one of the dumbest MoFo’s I’ve ever encountered.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @PhysicistDave
  666. Rurik says:

    just to reply..

    Humans aren’t individuals, that is gibberish.

    since I don’t want to belabor it, I’ll just point out that I disagree

  667. Hard not to notice.

    If she’d been protesting a certain election instead of demanding action on global warming, she’d definitely be serving time.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68180317

  668. Rurik says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    always an informative and entertaining read, TruthV

    a shame you and Mefobills aren’t able to find some common ground, as I don’t think he’s a ZOG shill, but I do think on some matters he’s mistaken.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  669. Arete says:

    “So many moles to whack, in a whack a mole game. You are a mole, even when whacked, who keeps sticking his head up. It is because you live in a parallel universe and have hubris.”

    What sophistry. Loads of ad hominem attacks here, but no substance.

    “Corporation root word is Corporeal, as in body. The first modern corporation is the Dutch East Indies, and just before that the corporate towns that formed near Amsterdam (yes- by Jews, to then do a take over). These new corporations were carve outs in the law, with limited charters. MEN at ARMS, are like a new body, or something corporeal – an entity. The men at arms included a mercenary army, especially the English version. This is how London became the gold capital, as they arbitraged gold (and spices) from India. London put Indians into debts and then made rents on trucking to and fro (by shipping).”

    In US corporate law—and my commentary on libertarianism has been focused on my country—one doesn’t hold up the East India Co or its Dutch cousin as the emergence of modern US corporations. As any 1L from a top law school knows, Berle & Means wrote the definitive book on this topic, and it has been standard reading for generations. I suggest you check that out.

    “Limited charters implies a hierarchy, with corporations below the “king.” The King then works for the people, hence corporations are below the general welfare. It is not a marriage of equals, it is king is over corporations.”

    Again, no king ever in the US, so this is not at all relevant.

    “Corporations are small groups with limited liability, yes – but now that limited liability is “privatize the profits” and socialize the losses.”

    No, not really. It was to make it possible for entrepreneurs to take risk and not be thrown in debtors’ prison for failing. The privatize gains amd socialize losses is hardly advocated by Hayek or Smith or any libertarian. The ability to socialize losses occurs when corporations capture the state. That means the state is picking winners and losers. That is not a free enterprise system, but crony capitalism. We are back to your mischaracterizing what libertarianism is about. You project falsely unto me the game of weasel words that you, like Lizzie Warren, are guilty of.

    “Let’s make corporations perpetual (no more charters) and lets do a take-over of civilization where we are in control of the polity. Notice that the hierarchy, or order of operations in now flipped.”

    No, let’s bring back the minimal government that defends private property rights while ending the socialization of losses, which was the situation in Jacksonian America and more formally after Reconstruction right up thru the overturning of Lochner under FDR by a group of justices like Brandeis who thought they knew better. Those are the socialists that allowed for the aggressive regulation of corporations by the government, which prompted the bribes and regulatory capture of the state by those now vulnerable corporations. It’s just undoing all the changes that Robert Higgs has written extensively about.

    “Corporatocracy is the modern form; competing small groups of self interested, including “international” corporations string pulling governments from behind. The western world is a corporatocracy, it is not fascist. Corporatocracy is an end state of libertarian parallel universe thinking.”

    Yes, this is what you keep repeating. But it’s obviously not true no matter how often you repeat the lie. We had a system of small government that was precluded by norms and then by explicit Supreme Court decree from meddling in the affairs of companies. Rather than engaging in sophistry perhaps you should go read the Lochner line of cases, which were a response to the earliest Socialists and Progressives’ efforts to regulate corporations via legislative efforts that had nothing to do with criminal law but regulatory fiat. Those were shut down, and so lobbying was virtually non-existent in this era.

    “There is no marriage of equals, or equivalence which you falsely argue, there is hierarchy instead. The order of operations is important.”

    I was very clear in noting two versions of the menace that is collusion between the regulatory state and big corporate power. I noted that, while Mussolini didn’t actually say it, the definition of fascism attributed to him is not a bad one at all—quite useful actually—and that definition has the state as the senior partner in the arrangement. Your observation of corporatocracy, I also clearly stated, is the same union but with the corporations as the senior partner. We all know that Fascist Italy in the war was the former, and while I’d argue that the US currently could be viewed as both fascist and crony capitalist (depending on the issue), I didn’t dispute the existence any of these malignancies. In fact, I stared them clearly.

    “Corporatism is fascism, which Mussolini allegedly said (although he likely didn’t) was the marriage of state and corporate power, which is a pretty good definition.

    It’s a good definition says the a-priori reasoning libertarian. This is why you people are dangerous, as in dangerously deluded; you use weasel words to create a parallel universe of your imagination. I gave you a link to exactly what Mussolini said, yet you bring up your definition. You are not honest, and only care about pushing your narratives, stuck in false ideology and why you are a good candidate for re-education in a concentration camp

    Fascism is not a marriage of state and corporate power, this implies some sort of marriage of equals, where they work together. Corporations were reigned in, brought to heel – fascism was not a marriage, they never said that. Corporatocracy fought against fascism in WW2, and corporatocracy won. The bad guys won, and libertarians are apologists for corporatocracy.”

    Given what I clearly wrote, this is some serious sophistry. You misstate what I said to claim falsely that I’m a liar to then claim false that I’m an apologist for corporatocracy. Wow. That’s some line of muddled logic. If you’d just go back and read what I plainly wrote, it is you who is claiming without evidence that libertarians are too dumb or corrupt to see that economic freedom inevitably must lead to fascism or corporatocracy. I have given you a source that is authoritative that says otherwise. I have explained to you that the US went for well beyond a century in a much better, freer condition. I have highlighted some of the key changes (passage of income tax, overturning Lochner, creating incentives for corporate lobbying, etc) that were explicit policy decisions leading to a muscular state working in collusion with big corporate power. You ignore all of it. You refuse to engage substantively with the arguments. Instead, you lie about what I wrote and name-call.

    “Lets immigrate some more cheap labor! Libertarians at the border, welcoming in invaders – you know because all people are equal and they need free-dumb. Let’s make boys into girls, they are FREE to make their choices.”

    I noted previously that libertarianism assumes a substrata of laws and culture/values that need to remain solid. I’d add that the substratum are decidedly less free elements. The analogy here is that our political freedoms can only operate if we agree to some things that are the opposite of freedom: the Bill of Rights limits our freedom to legislate certain things. We are not free to pass a law that Blacks cannot drive cars, or no one is allowed to own a gun.

    I also noted that non-naive libertarians understand that such limitations on freedom might require prohibitions on free trade with a potential enemy (China). You’re now pointing to other examples (finally! A thoughtful discussion). I personally know many (most?) libertarians who recognize the need for a robust border and enforcement of immigration laws. They don’t want an invasion, although they believe that faster immigration and higher legally allowed numbers would be better, but to accuse libertarians of supporting what is either a liberal/radical Dem (people never before confused with libertarians) ploy for permanent electoral advantage or a CIA/deep-state ploy to radically transform US demographics is really just ridiculous. There’s no evidence in support of this that I’m aware of.

    Separately, libertarians are parents too. They are among the most vocal advocates of parental rights. They understand that children cannot have full agency to make decisions on the hormones and surgeries that are dangerous and irreversible. Again, you’re slandering libertarians who stand against the government and corporate powers pushing highly lucrative but morally questionable treatments, and no one has articulated the longstanding constitutional rights of these parents than libertarians.

    “My goal is not to convert you. You will just weasel out again. My goal is to show your weasel ways to others, so they can run away from you – but first spit on your shoes. Libertarians are part of the problem, not the solution.”

    Your goal, apparently, is to lie, misrepresent, deceive and scapegoat. Perhaps you should read more (and the sources I’ve mentioned would be a great place to start) and text less. The wisdom of Ben Franklin’s famed quip about speaking and dispelling all doubt is on full display here.

  670. ‘WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. military launched airstrikes on Friday in Iraq and Syria against more than 85 targets linked to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard (IRGC) and the militias it backs, in retaliation for last weekend’s attack in Jordan that killed three U.S. troops.

    The strikes, which included the use of long-range B-1 bombers flown from the U.S., are the first in a multi-tiered response by President Joe Biden’s administration to the attack by Iran-backed militants, and more U.S. military operations are expected in the coming days…’

    https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1204/0*kIcDIL3A-M0vBQBk.

    His master’s voice.

  671. @Rurik

    a shame you and Mefobills aren’t able to find some common ground, as I don’t think he’s a ZOG shill

    MoFo-Bill may or may not intentionally be a ZOG shill, but his advocacy of an all-powerful bloated Bug Government authoritarian state is effectively shilling for the Talmudic misfits.
    You see, if government is powerful and fleeces the masses of a disproportionate amount of their ‘hard earned’, once captured by ZOG (as it inevitably will be), it can do untold damage.

    In addition to that, MoFo-Bill and his Marxist guru (the failed economist Michael Hudson), will NEVER call for an end to the Federal Reserve, nor for an end to the Fiat Monetary experiment, the latter being responsible for endless money printing that invariably leads to runaway inflation.
    I cannot begin to stress how important it is to CONFISCATE that ‘River of Riches’ that ZOG possesses (ie: the U.S Federal Reserve).
    This is the major instrument at their disposal that allows them to orchestrate these False Flags, fake pandemics and phony Climate emergencies that bring death, despair and impoverishment.

    As stupid as MoFo-Bill is, he surely cannot be that stupid to not see how the Fed and the Fiat Monetary system (that both he and Marxist Michael Hudson advocate for), are EMPOWERING ZOG and represent the foundation of their power.
    It’s no accident that he and Hudson dismiss the importance of ‘Sound Money’ and the abolition of the central bank. I strongly suspect there is malice aforethought involved.

    • Replies: @Arete
    , @Rurik
  672. Arete says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I think your prior conclusion was more accurate. Based upon my own personal interaction with this particular blogger, Mofo-Bill is clearly an economics illiterate, and so really could be that stupid not to see how the Fed and fiat money are empowering all sorts of evil.

  673. bjondo says:

    Intelligent conversations.

    Who/what would be behind the immorality, depravity?
    Who would be defining depravity as a freedom issue also define truth as hate speech?

    Is Sexyy Red the Root of Rap’s Problem or Symptom of Black Culture Decay? Jason Whitlock

    5ds

  674. @Anon/@Michael Korn/@Mevashir.

    Mev, I first have to apologise to you for being rude in some of my previous responses. Sometimes when you post using the ‘Anon’ handle, I can determine its you that’s making those comments and respond in a cordial way.
    Other times, the tone of your remarks (there go those mood swings of yours again) suggested you were some unknown disnfo peddler, who I treat accordingly by slapping them down.
    Best to send messages to me using the Michael Korn handle, if you don’t mind.

    Anyway, in your comment # 668 in the ‘John Beaty thread;, you wrote:

    Your praises of libertarian economics look to me like hopelessly naive fantasies ….. [in the real world there is] …. No free market competition, [there are] monopolistic advantages, bribery to gain favorable legislation, advertising to influence consumer choice etc …..this is the way the big boys play the game.

    I’m well aware of the current state of affairs in the U.S, where Crony Corporatism is the order of the day. I have made that abundantly CLEAR in my writings.
    But, unlike you, I am familiar with history, and have observed that in countries like the U.S, Australia, Canada and elsewhere (ie: places which came as close to being Libertarian utopias in the century or more leading up to the creation of the U.S Federal Reserve, as any societies have managed to achieve in history), we witnessed spectacular growth that lifted ALL boats.
    In all these societies, more people (as a percentage of the population), were lifted out of subsistence poverty into the middle class and beyond, than in any other society either before or since – even more than in the case of China over the last 40 years*.

    (*China’s transition to Capitalism lifted more people out of poverty in nominal terms, but as a % of its population, it was nowhere near as successful as those Anglo countries in the 19th century, seeing as most Chinese living in the countryside today have a per capita GDP that is only a fraction of that enjoyed by those Chinese living in Shanghai or Beijing for example).

    In other words, REAL WORLD outcomes from the past, when Libertarianism was practised to a large extent, show that it is spectacularly successful in all cases.
    So it is evident that it is YOU who is the naive one.
    You seem to have an attitude of: ‘We know that in the U.S the culture is one of bribery, corruption, no free markets etc’, and there’s nothing we can do about it. That it will remain so until the end of time.

    Well, I disagree. That i a defeatist attitude. If people can be enlightened about the historical record, if they can be shown that Libertarianism works marvellously, a critical mass can change things and overthrow the current dystopia we live in.
    Javier Milei, the new President of Argentina is one such individual that is attempting to put this into practice. An AnCap Libertarian himself, Milei is by far the most economically literate South American leader that ever drew breath.
    Assuming ZOG doesn’t sabotage his Presidency, expect Argentina to extricate itself from the abyss and become one of the economic success stories of the world.

    You also wrote:

    Maybe long ago there were thousands of independently competing Auto companies. But today they are obviously extremely centralized and monopolistic.

    Whilst it’s true that there are far fewer Auto companies in the U.S today, there are a ton of alternatives amongst the foreign makers. Thus no one company can extort the consumer, who is inundated with choices.
    As I’ve said before, whilst the U.S has become a Socialist Shit-hole as far as the Big End of town is concerned where monopolies thrive (ie: favoured corporations get subsidies/bail outs/preferential treatment etc), to the extent that the U.S economy still functions somewhat is due to Small and Medium sized businesses (SME’s) where Capitalism is still practised.
    For example, if your local baker or favourite restaurant drops the ball (charge too much, give you poor quality/service), you vote with your feet and patronise another establishment.
    Same goes for your Auto mechanic, your masseuse, your florist or whoever.
    You see Capitalism is all about Voluntary Exchange, it’s all about freedom to choose.

    In the Marxists/Socialist ‘utopia’ that you envisage, the government will own the means of production. In theory the price of goods will be cheaper, because the Gubmint has no profit motive. But the reality is, as the Soviet Union demonstrated, that:

    1) You’ll wait in line for hours to get your loaf of bread.

    2) When you get to the head of the queue there may be (if you’re lucky) two different types of bread to choose from. eg: white bread and dark coloured bread (masquerading as rye bread).

    3) Seeing as the bakery is state owned and there is no incentive to make sure the bread is baked just right (after all, they have a captive audience which cannot go elsewhere), sometimes the bread is overbaked, sometimes under baked, sometimes it rises nicely (correct amount of yeast added), sometimes not at all as the yeast is left out.
    Other times your bread come with the occasional complimentary pubic hair.

    The hard core lefties will often cite the Scandinavian countries as Socialist success stories, but they are noting of the sort. They are Capitalistic economies where the private sector controls the near entirety of the means of production, with lower corporate taxes, greater business incentives than in the U.S.
    Of course they have a huge welfare sector that is funded by a crushing tax burden that falls on the working class and middle income earners, that disincentivises the middle classes and prevents them from being as productive as they might otherwise have been.

    You also wrote, in an earlier comment:

    Also your argument does not make sense because I thought libertarianism is rooted in the ideals of Jeffersonian democracy which is based on the concept of most citizens being small-scale farmers. Why was that concept successful in America but not in England or the rest of Europe according to your argument?

    Well then, what is it about the the bulk of the land holdings in England and Europe in that period that differed from the U.S/Australia/Canada?
    Of course the bulk of the arable land, certainly the more fertile component, was in the possession of the aristocratic classes. The U.S, Australia etc, started with a clean slate. Settlers could stake a holding and work the land themselves in these countries, and were thus incentivised to work hard.
    No so in England and Europe where equality of opportunity was lacking.

    In any case, as I explained in a previous comment, there is a ‘churn’ in all societies, whereby the sons and daughters of today’s wealthy and aristocratic classes, seldom have the business acumen of the founding patriarch or they lead a profligate lifestyle that entails a squandering of the family fortune.
    The family assets are soon dissipated, the large land holdings are soon sold off piecemeal, and those among the working class that have been prudent and lived below their means, accumulate savings that entitles them to purchase property formerly owned by the Lord of the Manor.
    This is the reality of the world we live in. The vast majority of great fortunes are soon squandered within a few generations.

    You also suggest:

    You should look at the short book by Hilaire Beloc called The Servile State.

    So few hours in the day, so many books to be read (I already have a huge backlog of things I intend to read).
    In the past, when my left-of-centre friends urged me to read a particular book, invariably these were written by career academics and nit wits that had no private sector background, and to the extent that some had private sector histories, they were complete failures in their fields.
    Needless to say, said books were were filled with Socialist claptrap that would never work in the real world.
    These days I rely on the known truth tellers like Dr Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, Dr Peter McCullough, Pierre Kory, Mises.org and countless others for book reading suggestions.
    Unfortunately for you Mev, I suspect that you’ll never snap out of your Bolshevik/Jewish indoctrination with Socialism, that you’re too set in your ways.
    To the extent you read books, they’re all just reinforcing your Confirmation Bias, in that you won’t entertain the idea of reading stuff that challenges your ideas, you only seek that which confirm your existing biases.

    You may say the same thing about me, and it’s true that we’re all guilty of it to some extent. But I have actually taken the time to examine a lot of the output of the lefties (eg: Marx’s Das Kapital, Communist Manifesto etc), I’ve read the UR threads from the Trotskyist/Big Government authoritarian Michael Hudson before he banned me, and easily exposed it for the nonsense that it was.

    SUMMARY: Socialism has failed wherever it’s been tried. Lefties will counter by saying that things went well enough for many year in Venezuela when Hugo Chavez nationalised industries.
    And yes, when you just confiscate other people’s stuff, things go along nicely for a little while – UNTIL YOU RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY.

    Lefties will counter by saying that Venezuela’s plight was brought about by western sanctions and chicanery initiated by the Anglo Zionist empire. And undoubtedly this accelerated the decline.
    But the rot had set in long before that, and Venezuela under Socialism was always going down for the count.
    The fact is, if you’ve got your house in order, letting the private sector get on with the business of generating wealth and prosperity for the nation in a Capitalistic economy like Russia does, coupled to prudent levels of debt, you can ameliorate the effects of outside forces.
    Sanctions have had little effect on Mother Russia, which is now firing on all cylinders.

    Venezuela has the largest known oil reserves in the world, even more than Saudi Arabia.
    That a nation endowed with such an abundance of natural resources, having (pre-Chavez) the highest standard of living in the Sth American continent, should descend to this level, is something to behold.
    Only Socialism could have brought about its demise that fast.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  675. @Anon/@Michael Korn ….

    Maybe you need libertarianism to shield your mind from the horrors of the reality in which we live. But I think it’s a copout a security blanket a baby’s pacifier.

    It has nothing to do with the ugly real world that the Titans of business finance and politics utilize to their own advantage.

    Mev, you clearly have not been reading my commentary in the Covid Psyop related UR articles, those on the Ukraine proxy war, those related to the murderous foreign policy of the Anglo Zionist empire that are playing out in the Apartheid Israeli state right now, as the illegal Khazarian colonial settler oppressors battle it out with the courageous Hamas Freedom Fighters etc.

    I’m well aware of the disastrous state of affairs that exist, that is why I spread the message of Libertarianism. Becuase it is the message of HOPE, of FREEDOM and LIBERTY.
    Because it is a KNOWN solution that will deliver Peace and Prosperity.
    If Libertarianism was being practised, then yes, it would have a pacifying effect on all economically literate individuals – because we’d know that we’re on the right track.

    SUMMARY: Seeing as there is NO LIBERTARIANISM BEING PRACTISED in the western world (at least amongst the major economies – nor has it been for a long time), how the EFF can you say it is a ‘pacifier’ for me ?

    You ARE a strange man Mev to be saying the opposite of what is occurring.
    I am IRATE because individuals like Dr Ron Paul have spelled out PRACTICAL and WORKABLE SOLUTIONS for the U.S and the rest of the world to follow, yet the lefties (and more than a few on the right) are unable to see the light.

    Yes, given the opportunity to exploit Government, corrupt oligarchs will seize that chance to do so. That’s why we must DEPRIVE them of that opportunity as much as possible. ie:

    1) Radically defund government and abolish entire departments that serve no useful purpose

    2) Massively limit the powers/jurisdiction of those politicians and bureaucrats that remain, whilst DECENTRALISING power to the various locales around the nation (so that small communities are empowered with the decision making process).

    3) And …. END THE FED. Not only confiscate it from the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel but NOT replace it with a central bank of any description. Market forces will decide what the prevailing rates of interest should be as was the case throughout history before central banks were invented*.

    (*FFS, Australia did not have a central bank until 1959, yet the country not only functioned well, it’s growth rate prior to the establishment of the ZOG affiliate Reserve Bank of Australia was far better than the mediocre performance thereafter).

    Get with it Mev, the solutions are simple. As long as we keep a wide berth away from Socialism (ie: the present malaise gripping the west – whereby we have Socialism for the oligarchs, as their profits are privatised while their losses from recklexs financial chicanery are Socialised), then we’ll do just fine.

  676. @Truth Vigilante

    Sure, TV, capitalism can work, but only if managed by communists (China)
    or by patriots (Russia). The secret to success is to never let the oligarchs
    and globalists anywhere near political power, as they are in the U.S. and
    most of the West.

    The Zionist bankers, the MIC and mega corporations own the U.S. and are
    hell-bent on ruling the planet. They appreciate your support.
    Libertarian economics, combined with a fake political democracy, inevitably
    lead to government by a plutocratic oligarchy and economic hardships for
    most of the population.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  677. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    Now, the average Israeli may ‘want peace.’ I hold that doesn’t matter. The dynamic of Israeli society is such that there is always internal stress, and the solution to that stress is always to seek external conflict. Very noticeably, Israel has always had enemies, and if one is subdued, another is sought. Peace is made with the Egyptians, and conflict is engineered with the Palestinians.

    Well…

    Sure — rulers have often found a nice war to be a way to distract the masses from domestic woes: as FDR himself admitted, “Dr. New Deal has become Dr. Win-the-War.” The New Deal had failed. There was no need at all for the US to get involved in the Old World conflicts. But FDR made a conscious decision to do so long before the attack on Pearl– the destroyers for bases deal, the convoying of supplies to Britain, the sanctions on Japan, and all the rest.

    He clearly either wanted to go to war or at least did not mind it.

    And since the New Deal had failed, it is more than plausible that FDR saw war as a useful distraction: it did, after all, get him re-elected two more times.

    But, you know, this isn’t all that common. Most wars are best explained by historians as a matter of one side or the other (or both) miscalculating. Wars, are very, very risky — at least one of the two sides is going to lose.

    As to Israel, Occam’s razor suggests that we do not need to assume they usually want these wars. Israel is, after all, in a geopolitically untenable position: they stole other people’s land and there are a lot more people on the other side (all the world’s Muslims) who want them to give it back.

    Israel is going to have one war after another whether they want it or not.

    No need to assume their ruling elite wants these wars.

  678. @Truth Vigilante

    My sweet little buddy Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    But you’ll NEVER hear Dovid Miller call out ZOG in relation to 9/11 or the Covid Psyop. Never on the big issues.

    So, your proof that I am an evil liar is that I have not commented on the particular topics that you happen to think are the most important?

    It does not occur to you that just maybe I have nothing of importance to say about Covid?

    And, unlike you, that I refrain from posting reams of words on matters about which I have nothing important to say?

    I did of course post a number of comments about 9/11 concerning matters about which I do have real expertise: the nonsense that violates basic facts of physics that you and your pals were posting — that the planes were holograms, that the Towers collapsed due to nuclear explosions, that gravity-driven collapse violates Newton’s Third Law and all the rest of that silliness.

    But beyond pointing out all that nonsense, I just have nothing interesting to say about 9/11.

    And, yes, yes, I know that my showing some degree of self-restraint, unlike you, proves that I am surely an evil, despicable liar!

    You take care, little buddy!

    Your friendly neighborhood Heroic Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  679. @Truth Vigilante

    Truth Vigilante wrote to MoFo-Bill:

    There was no need for Rome to embark on a ‘never ending quest for precious metals’.
    It’s the same asinine argument that Jews use to smear the Gold Standard today.
    They say we can’t go on to a Gold Standard because there is not enough Gold in the world to cover all the currency in circulation.

    Of course, the only reason for that is because ZOG manipulates and artificially suppresses the price of Gold (and silver). In a genuine free market, the price of gold would rise to reflect that amount of currency that was printed/digitally conjured into existence.
    In other words, assuming a situation where NOT A SINGLE GRAM of gold was extracted from the Earth from now until the end of time, there would still be MORE THAN ENOUGH GOLD TO ENABLE A FUNCTIONING PRECIOUS METALS STANDARD.

    Your economic analysis is, of course, basically correct.

    But, I would point out that two of the most eloquent defenders of the gold standard in the twentieth century were Murray Rothbard and Ludwig von Mises.

    Both of whom were Jewish.

    And the most influential economist in trashing the gold standard was John Maynard Keynes.

    Who was not Jewish.

    And the politicians most responsible for destroying the gold standard were Churchill and FDR, neither of whom was Jewish.

    I realize that you draw a distinction between “good” Jews and “bad” Jews.

    But the truth is that most of the most influential, really, really bad guys were not Jews.

    You’d be more convincing if you’d just get off the Jew thing and stick with your economic points, on which you are — usually — correct.

    Your friendly little Shabbos Goy,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  680. @24th Alabama

    Libertarian economics, combined with a fake political democracy, inevitably
    lead to government by a plutocratic oligarchy and economic hardships for
    most of the population.

    How can you say this when Libertarian philosophies were NEVER IMPLEMENTED in the major economies over the last 100 years?
    Two of the cores of Libertarianism are a radical reduction in government and the Non-Aggression principle. Instead we have a murderous U.S foreign policy and the most bloated of Big Governments that ever was.
    In other words, the disastrous situation we face today is NOT due to Libertarianism – it’s a byproduct of Socialism and Crony Corporatism.

    Meanwhile, whilst China is authoritarian on many levels (recent draconian lockdowns of entire cities over Covid, social credit scores etc), it has pursued Libertarian economic doctrines (low income and corporate taxes, much smaller government as a percentage of GDP than the U.S, a much less burdensome regulatory environment – thus enabling the private sector to get on with the task of wealth creation), so this has enabled it to get rich.

    SUMMARY: Mr Bama-lama, you’ve obviously been sleeping under a rock all these years,. Because in the 130 or so years leading up to the creation of the ZOG owned Federal Reserve in 1913, the U.S was as near to be a Libertarian utopia as any major nation has ever been either before or since.
    And it led to enormous prosperity for the bulk of the population. ie: the OPPOSITE of what you claim.

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  681. @PhysicistDave

    And the politicians most responsible for destroying the gold standard were Churchill and FDR, neither of whom was Jewish.

    FDR and Winston Spendthrift Churchill were shabbos goys doing the bidding of their ZOG masters. This is a well documented fact.

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  682. @Truth Vigilante

    Hi. Found your comment:

    Mev, I first have to apologise to you for being rude in some of my previous responses. Sometimes when you post using the ‘Anon’ handle, I can determine its you that’s making those comments and respond in a cordial way.

    Don’t apologize for anything. I’ve posted far worse than you ever have.

    I would happily post always under my handle, but RU has limited me to two comments per day across the entire website. I’ve discovered that I can post as Anon twice every time I change celltowers or networks.

    I don’t know why RU does this to apparently both of us. It’s pretty discouraging and I do want to stop commenting here because it is mentally and physically fatiguing and I don’t think it makes any difference in the long run.

    If you are optimistic about economic reform, I don’t want to rain on your parade. I am not. I grew up in an elite lower upper class Jewish family, and I’ve seen that these people, who seem to run things, are largely impervious to truth.

    I had an uncle who is a Noble Prize winner in nuclear physics. He served under Nixon as an arms control negotiator. The last time I saw him, in 2018, he told me Obama sent him to Iran to assess the Iranian nuclear program. He told me that he thought the Israelis were grossly exaggerating, if not outright lying, about Iran’s nuclear aspirations. I never saw him or spoke with him again, and six months later he was dead!

    At any rate, I grew up around a lot of powerful but petty people, and that’s why I am not optimistic about the reforms you write about with such enthusiasm. However I hope you are correct and I wish you every blessing.

    If you are a believer, please join me in prayer for Fran’s conversion.

    Your handle in Hebrew sounds pretty cool:
    Magen haEmet = מגן האמת = Defender of the Truth!

    Michael Korn / Menachem Mevashir

  683. @Truth Vigilante

    Please confine your arguments with me, to me, instead of that imaginary person
    who is frigament of your agitation.

    We actually agree that government should stay out of private matters as much as
    possible, including business and finance. Where we disagree is about the role
    wealthy people should have in government. My firm belief is that they must be
    completely excluded from decision- making and elections. The other side of this
    is that no political official or his family may become rich.

    To prevent a monied oligarchy from taking over a government, there must be an
    inviolate barrier between political and financial power. Is there any other way
    to prevent corruption?

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  684. @Truth Vigilante

    My little buddy Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    FDR and Winston Spendthrift Churchill were shabbos goys doing the bidding of their ZOG masters. This is a well documented fact.

    Well, of course! I mean, like, isn’t everyone?

    I mean, you are the only human being who isn’t, right?

    I know you feel bad about being left out, but if you ask real nice, I’ll put in a word so that you too can become a certified shabbos goy. Pay’s not great — but we do get as much matzoh as we can eat!

    Did you know that Hitler was also a “shabbos goy”?

    Your friendly neighborhood Shobbos Goy,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

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  685. @Michael Korn

    Michael Korn wrote to Truth Vigilante:

    I don’t know why RU does this to apparently both of us. It’s pretty discouraging and I do want to stop commenting here because it is mentally and physically fatiguing and I don’t think it makes any difference in the long run.

    Then why don’t you just stop posting?

    Ron knows that it would be better for you if you stopped, and he is limiting your posts to help you do just that.

    MK also wrote:

    If you are optimistic about economic reform, I don’t want to rain on your parade.

    Why do you think TV is optimistic? He is merely stating what he thinks should happen — I have not seen him making many predictions.

    Just like I think you should give up on the religion nonsense. But, alas, I don’t think you will.

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  686. @24th Alabama

    24th Alabama wrote to Truth Vigilante:

    To prevent a monied oligarchy from taking over a government, there must be an inviolate barrier between political and financial power. Is there any other way to prevent corruption?

    But… TV says he is an anarchist. Under anarchism, there is no government for rich people to control.

    So, he has answered your question, hasn’t he?

    Seems a lot easier than implementing your plan of keeping rich people completely separate from government, doesn’t it? You know, they got rich by figuring out how to “play the game.” No matter what clever barriers you put in place, they will figure out a way around them.

    Learn about what happened under “actually existing Socialism” under which the proletariat (supposedly) ruled.

    The only way to get rid of corruption in government is to get rid of government.

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  687. Anon[321] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Hey Big Dave. I didn’t expect you to butt into my conversation with TruVi. Your input is most unwelcome. But now that you have proffered it here’s my response:

    1. I keep responding because God tells me I have something valuable to contribute. The God that you don’t believe in does inspire me.

    2. You cajole me to give up religion. What do you have to offer in its place? What hope do you have to offer any of us? Let me guess: nuclear physics. What has it given us? Nuclear weapons that can destroy the world many times over. Your buddy Ron constantly talks about the dangers of nuclear war and we have you and your physicist friends to thank for that. What else have you given us? Uncontainable radioactive waste from nuclear power plants.

    3. Let’s get a little more personal. You are like every David I have ever known starting with my own father. A flaming narcissist who thinks he’s a gift to humanity. Devoid of even the tiniest amount of introspection and self-loathing that Jesus tells us is essential to make ourselves suitable for the spiritual life. Every David I have ever known, including most definitely you, is an arrogant condescending and contemptuous person. Seemingly totally devoid of any kind of self-appraisal or awareness of his own limitations defects blemishes etc. You are a preposterous buffoon.

    4. I would assume TruVi has hope that our economic system can be rectified or else he would not spend so much time promoting his ideals. Of course you, the supremely arrogant one who specializes in destroying everyone’s hope, would struggle to understand such a thing.

    5. I don’t at all appreciate your speaking on Ron’s behalf. If he has something to say to me he can do it himself. Who are you to impute his motives regarding me? More preposterous buffoonery. Same goes for TruVi. You don’t need to answer for him. More indication of your superfluous ego and narcissism.

    thing or two.

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  688. @PhysicistDave

    Marx anticipated a violent overthrow of capitalism but he would have been surprised and disheartened by the prolonged brutality under the “actually existing socialism” of the Bolsheviks and Maoists.

    Russia and China have improved living conditions during the last 20-30 years by allowing private enterprise without surrendering political power to the newly rich. China has been more adept at this than Russia, but both lack the personal freedoms of the West.

    In the U.S. the oligarchs are more firmly in control than ever before and banishing them from politics is going to be a serious challenge since there are constitutional changes that would be required, such as negating the Supreme Court ruling that corporations are people. Americans do have free speech if they are not put off by shouting into an empty barrel, which is mostly what we are doing on TUR and other alternative sites.

    TV can speak for himself but my understanding is that he is a libertarian rather than an anarchist. True anarchists take a lot of abuse around here, and deservedly so due to the many questions that leave them dumbstruck.

  689. @Michael Korn

    If you are optimistic about economic reform, I don’t want to rain on your parade.

    I am optimistic about the potential that an educated and well informed populace has for initiating reform. Left to its own devices, that may not happen during my lifetime in relation to the U.S, so I’m under no illusion that this economic reform is right around the corner.
    But things are rapidly evolving in the world. The Sino-Russian Super Hegemon is already the unrivalled Military-Industrial colossus on the planet, and the USD’s days as world reserve currency are numbered.

    When the USD loses its reserve currency status, it’s game/set/match, as the U.S (and ZOG’s capacity to cause mischief around the world), goes down for the count.

    When the USD loses its reserve currency status (and likely even before that, as investors begin to anticipate it), there will be a rush to the exits as holders of USD and USD denominated assets (stocks/bonds/real estate), seek to unload them before they become worthless.
    Needless to say, the trillions of USD from around the world will all be a heading back home as holders purchase anything that isn’t nailed down to take back to their own countries.
    This glut of USD chasing a fixed quantity of goods in America, will result in a cataclysmic hyperinflation that will produce scenes in U.S cities reminiscent of a post apocalyptic movie set, as impoverished/hungry/homeless Americans roam the streets in frustration, burning and looting everything in their path.
    As Gerald Celente says:
    ‘When you’ve lost everything and you’ve got nothing left to lose, you LOSE IT.

    America’s future isn’t looking particularly rosy.

  690. @24th Alabama

    24th Alabama wrote to me:

    TV can speak for himself but my understanding is that he is a libertarian rather than an anarchist.

    Lots and lots of libertarians are anarchists: I myself am one of them.

    And TV has indeed been very belligerent about the fact that he is an anarchist (TV is very belligerent about everything!). Indeed, he keeps insisting that I myself must not be a true anarchist (to be sure, I don’t really care whether I count as a “true” anarchist or not — as that great anarchist Popeye said, “I yam what I yam and that’s all that I yam!”).

    If you want to investigate the libertarian anarchist position(s), try reading Rothbard’s Ethics of Liberty or his Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature and other Essays, or for a quite different approach Dave Friedman’s Machinery of Freedom (Dave is the son of the famous Nobel laureate, but he was never quite able to get Milton to come around to full-scale anarchism).

    24th also wrote:

    In the U.S. the oligarchs are more firmly in control than ever before and banishing them from politics is going to be a serious challenge since there are constitutional changes that would be required, such as negating the Supreme Court ruling that corporations are people.

    Money talks. If you outlaw rich guys lobbying and rich guys buying political ads and all the rest, the rich guys will find other ways to influence politics: for example, by funding think tanks or journalistic outlets that share their views.

    As long as the state plays a major role in people’s lives, people who have some sort of social or political power will use whatever power they have to influence the state. The ways of doing so are multitudinous. You can’t outlaw all of them.

    And if you could, it would merely be a matter of increasing the power of those who have other sorts of social power — journalists, educators, etc.

    You might want to read up on Michels’ Iron Law of Oligarchy: in any group larger than a dozen or so people, democracy is impossible.

    To put it bluntly, democracy is always and everywhere a sham, just a clever technique for making the masses think they control the state. Think about it: the key in any election is who the competing candidates are that are on the ballot. In a country of over three hundred million people, it is quite impossible for an ordinary Joe to become familiar with every single fellow citizen who might make a good President (or Governor or Senator). Instead someone has to decide who the “serious” candidates are.

    And that someone has the real power.

    As Stalin made clear, the real power lies with him who can set the agenda.

    Sorry to disillusion you about the “democracy” you live in… but is there really any adult of normal intelligence who really doubts what I just wrote here? Isn’t it more simply that we all learn not to say it out loud, just as we all learn not to tell young kids the truth about Santa?

    24th also wrote:

    Russia and China have improved living conditions during the last 20-30 years by allowing private enterprise without surrendering political power to the newly rich. China has been more adept at this than Russia, but both lack the personal freedoms of the West.

    My wife is the daughter of Chinese immigrants: she has a number of cousins still in China.

    You need to learn more about what is actually happening in China.

    Let’s just say that it does not disprove Michels’ Iron Law.

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  691. @PhysicistDave

    In response to my verifiable assertion that FDR and Winston Churchill were shabbos goys, Physicist Dovid writes:

    Well, of course! I mean, like, isn’t everyone?

    FDR was under the thumb of handlers Bernard Baruch and Henry Morgenthau Jr.
    As for Churchill, he led a life of conspicuous consumption and profligacy during the 1920’s and 30’s, and just prior to the commencement of hostilities in WWII, had accumulated a debt of around £19,000.

    Let me put that in perspective. During the height of the Depression many unskilled labourers were earning around 20 shillings (£1) per week.
    So £19,000 pounds = 19,000 weeks = approx 365 years worth of wages for said worker.

    Then along comes the Jewish banker/mining magnate Henry Strakosch, who PAYS IT ALL OFF IN ONE HIT.
    How can you not know this Phy-Do, it’s common knowledge? As dishonest as Wikipedia is in peddling distortions on behalf of its ZOG master, even they concede this:

    Files declassified in the 2000’s showed that Strakosch provided large financial gifts to Churchill in 1938 and 1940, which enabled Churchill to pay off his vast debts and to withdraw his Kent home Chartwell from sale at a time of severe financial pressures.

    So Phy-Do, if someone is going to pay the equivalent of 365 years wages for a typical worker, said benefactor is going to demand some sort of quid pro quo in return. No?
    And, on behalf of the ZOG hierarchy, he did extract his pound of flesh.
    That’s why Churchill rebuffed the extremely generous peace overtures from Hitler in 1940, in the immediate aftermath of the capitulation of France.
    That’s why Churchill squandered vast amounts of blood and treasure, ensured the demise of the British empire, loss of of reserve currency status etc, all in pursuit of the Jewish agenda.
    There was nothing but downside for the British and Commonwealth citizenry in this arrangement.

    SUMMARY: Winston Spendthrift Churchill is the most egregious British TRAITOR that ever lived – no one else comes remotely close.
    What Jonathan Pollard, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg (and all the other Jewish traitors involved in the Manhattan Project COMBINED) did to the U.S, is a misdemeanour in comparison.

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  692. @24th Alabama

    TV can speak for himself but my understanding is that he is a libertarian rather than an anarchist.

    I am an AnCap (Anarcho-Capitalist) and a Libertarian. After the departure of Harry Browne a couple of decades ago, the Libertarian Party was infiltrated by [likely] ZOG affiliated individuals, and steered in the wrong direction.
    The good news is that the Ron Paul faction of the party is in the ascendancy, and a disproportionate number within that faction identify as AnCaps.

    I’m not now, or have ever in the past, been involved in the LP, either through direct membership or otherwise (as a non U.S citizen I may not be eligible*).
    (*I tried to make a donation to Ron Paul’s 2012 Presidential campaign in the lead up to the primaries, but was told that non U.S citizens could not make financial contributions. Perhaps this also applies to joining a U.S political party).

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  693. @PhysicistDave

    As you may know, Friedrich Engels prophesied that when a communist society attained
    perfection the State would “wither away” and a harmonious, productive situation of
    anarchy would evolve. Obviously, Joe Stalin didn’t get the memo or he blamed Hitler
    for Russia’s economic failures, but it is also possible that anarchy is contrary to our
    natural social existence. Can any group organize and function without a hierarchy?

    Think of first causes because even anarchy would need to be organized, and what could
    be more absurd than organized anarchy? Premeditated mayhem?

    A libertarian economic system has a better chance of working, but only if it were totally
    insulated from financial poachers and other nefarious schemers and thieves.
    Ironically, only a strong central political government of a fascist type could protect and
    preserve a libertarian economy, and leaving it alone would be another challenge since
    every politician overestimates his ability to manipulate the economy.

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  694. @24th Alabama

    24th Alabama wrote to me:

    A libertarian economic system has a better chance of working, but only if it were totally insulated from financial poachers and other nefarious schemers and thieves.
    Ironically, only a strong central political government of a fascist type could protect and preserve a libertarian economy…

    Well… if you look earlier in this thread, you will see that Colin Wright and I had an extended debate on this. I don’t think it is productive to rehash that debate. Frankly, your allusion to “financial poachers” suggests you really do not know what libertarians in general advocate.

    So, I’ll just say that lots and lots of libertarians disagree with you — including TV and me.

    In any case, I was simply replying to your comment in which you suggested that libertarians cannot be anarchists and, on that, you are quite obviously mistaken.

    Perhaps you have not kept up on recent news? You have not heard that Argentina recently elected a self-proclaimed libertarian anarchist as President?

    And the leading libertarian think-tank, the Mises Institute, is headed by anarchists. And the most prominent libertarian website, LewRockwell.com, is run by a libertarian anarchist.

    And we have deep roots going back all the way to colonial times, to the noble Ann Hutchinson. And there are several books written on the nineteenth-century American libertarian anarchists.

    And of course Thoreau’s famous Essay begins:

    I heartily accept the motto, “That government is best which governs least”; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe—“That government is best which governs not at all”; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have.

    Exactly.

    And then there is Bob Heinlein and Tolstoy and Tolkien and on and on and on. And I have already listed some more recent books.

    Our name is legion.

    24th also wrote:

    Think of first causes because even anarchy would need to be organized, and what could be more absurd than organized anarchy?

    You have a cartoon version of anarchism: anarchists — all anarchists that I know of! — oppose the state because they think that it impedes social cooperation. All anarchists that I know of favor voluntary organization and social cooperation among human beings.

    Which, of course, necessarily rules out the state: do you, or anyone whom you know, pay your taxes voluntarily?

    “Organized anarchy” is not only not a contradiction; it is precisely what we anarchists are all about!

    Before you criticize some viewpoint, you might try finding out what supporters of that viewpoint do in fact advocate, don’t you think?

    Anarchists do not advocate what you think they advocate.

    By the way, Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature and Other Essays is now available for free on the Web (see here).

    Again, in any case, I was responding to your implication that libertarians cannot be anarchists: I trust you will agree that I have shown that you were mistaken.

    Personally, I think that any libertarian who is not an anarchist is being logically inconsistent, but that is another story.

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  695. @Anon

    Our self-admitted mental case MK wrote to me:

    Hey Big Dave. I didn’t expect you to butt into my conversation with TruVi. Your input is most unwelcome.

    The Internet doesn’t work the way you want it to, little crazy boy — people constantly “butt into” other’s conversations.

    It’s called “freedom of speech,’ crazy guy.

    The nutjob also wrote:

    I don’t at all appreciate your speaking on Ron’s behalf. If he has something to say to me he can do it himself.

    Ron has told you to get lost. You are too much of a jerk to honor his request. As you just admitted, Ron has compromised by limiting your posts to twice a day. But you won’t accept that either: as you said, you keep figuring out ways to get around Ron’s attempts to rein you in.

    Well, after all, how many times have you told us that you have mental problems?

    The nutjob also wrote:

    I keep responding because God tells me I have something valuable to contribute.

    Do you actually hear His voice? Is He a tenor or a baritone or a bass?

    Or does He send you emails?

    No, I’m not joking — I am trying to get you to focus on the fact that this is one more sign of your (self-confessed) mental distress.

    You need help, Michael.

    Professional help.

    MK also wrote:

    You cajole me to give up religion. What do you have to offer in its place? What hope do you have to offer any of us?

    An end to your lies and fantasies and falsehoods. Just the simple, unadorned truth.

    That is all I offer.

    The Universe does not care about you, Michael. If you drop dead this evening, the Universe does not care.

    Learn to accept the Universe.

    The mental case also wrote:

    Let me guess: nuclear physics. What has it given us? Nuclear weapons that can destroy the world many times over.

    I’ve never worked in nuclear physics, crazy guy — you are fantasizing. Again.

    MK also wrote:

    Let’s get a little more personal. You are like every David I have ever known starting with my own father. A flaming narcissist who thinks he’s a gift to humanity. Devoid of even the tiniest amount of introspection and self-loathing that Jesus tells us is essential to make ourselves suitable for the spiritual life.

    According to the New Testament, Jesus was just as crazy as you are: the NT is quite clear that Jesus claimed that the End of the World was imminent.

    Two thousand years ago.

    Hasn’t come yet.

    It was not imminent.

    Jesus was nuts — a crazy Jewish rabbi who seemed to think he was the Messiah.

    He died almost two thousand years ago. And that crazy nutjob is still dead.

    Come out of the darkness, Mike, and into the light of truth and reason. Accept the noble men in your family, your Uncles Burt whom I knew and who won the Nobel, for the heroic figures they were.

    Turn away from the lies of religion and learn to accept the Universe.

    You can do it, Michael.

    We will help you.

    Live not by lies.

    Your pal,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  696. The guy is a hoot.

    ‘Biden Blames Trump For Killing “Toughest, Fairest Law Ever Proposed” For The Border’

    Who writes his lines? This is GENIUS.

  697. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…But the truth is that most of the most influential, really, really bad guys were not Jews…’

    Perhaps in the past. But at the moment? In America?

    You’re just sticking your head in the sand. Finally, we are seeing what happens when Jews really get to be in charge.

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    , @Rurik
  698. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘…But the truth is that most of the most influential, really, really bad guys were not Jews…’

    [Colin] Perhaps in the past. But at the moment? In America?

    You’re just sticking your head in the sand. Finally, we are seeing what happens when Jews really get to be in charge.

    Colin, old buddy, do you think “the Jews” caused the Civil War?

    Because that was the biggest disaster in American history — in terms of the death toll, the disruption of the American Republic, you name it.

    And if you do think that the Jews somehow caused the Civil War… well, might I respectfully suggest you read Michael Holt’s The Political Crisis of the 1850s and his The Fate of Their Country: Politicians, Slavery Extension, and the Coming of the Civil War: both books are quite readable and mercifully brief.

    Or do you agree with the crazy Austrian corporal that “the Jews” started World War I: there are numerous books that go into the details of that debacle — not all that many Jews to blame!

    Or the evil Progressive movement in American history, the root of most of our current evils? Due to nasty WASP Protestants who were determined to remake America (and the world) in their own image. Check out Robert M. Crunden’s Ministers of Reform: The Progressives’ Achievement in American Civilization, 1889-1920 and Rothbard’s The Progressive Era.

    History did not start yesterday.

    The profound evils we face today go back to WW I, the Progressive movement, the War Between the States, the early “utopian Socialists,” etc.

    And Jews played very little role in any of what I just mentioned.

    Yes, after Jewish Emancipation, (some) Jews became heavily involved in everything from theoretical physics to socialist politics. And so they were part of the disaster we now face.

    But only a part. It was begun by eminently White, Christian, West-European Gentiles.

    The world is what it is.

    Jews are less than ten percent of the Senate. Way under that in the House.

    But Hollywood has indeed been “an empire of their own.”

    Just as Blacks have dominated the NBA.

    Different ethnic groups have predominated in different areas of life.

    The world is what it is.

    And the actual truth is that the horrors the world has faced for a century now stem from actions of White Gentiles — the Civil War, WW I, the Progressive Era, etc.

    The fault, dear Colin, lies not in the Jews but in your and my own ethnic group.

    We need to own up to that truth.

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    , @Colin Wright
  699. @PhysicistDave

    You can’t possibly know what anarchy or is or what anarchists advocate.
    Anarchy simply means “no government or against authority” and there are
    many kinds ranging from bomb-throwers to pacifists, and from anarcho-
    capitalists to communist anarchists.

    Opposition to authority alone does not constitute a coherent or actionable belief
    system or policy. What you are proposing is a pie-in-the-sky utopian fantasy that
    you cannot describe or implement. Our only choices are to change the form of
    government and replace the coterie of degenerates now in charge.
    Government is here to stay. Stop wasting your time.

  700. geokat62 says:

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  701. anon[244] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Wikipedia is dishonest in peddling distortions. Wikipedia is no more considered a credible source. Don’t quote it if you want to be taken seriously unless it’s for movie rankings and things that really don’t matter. Yes, wikipedians are the most ridiculous clowns ever. Just read this page https://pastebin.com/8kZqy653 google some of the wikipedians and see for yourself. These are known to maniacally edit and eliminate wiki articles that reflect badly on leftism.

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  702. Rurik says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I suspect he may be pining for a return of National Socialism, (with himself at the helm?)

    Or not, IDK

    but I think he’s more in error than malicious or devious, but I could be wrong

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  703. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    You really need to read Shlomo Sand’s The Invention of the Land of Israel: From Holy Land to Homeland! The bizarrely idiotic and ahistorical idea of the Jews “returning” to “Israel” was in fact largely an invention of crack-pot Evangelicals in the UK.

    I hadn’t been aware of Sand’s second book and I’m glad you mentioned it to me. It wasn’t very long and I just finished reading it.

    The first half or so seemed a little dull and he didn’t really convince me that Christian Zionism in Britain had much to do with Jewish Zionism or was a major factor in the Balfour Declaration or Israel’s creation, though I don’t dispute that it may have contributed to the latter.

    But he did provide a great deal of evidence that for nearly 2,000 years, Jews had never focused on any goal of resettling in Palestine or even regarded that ancestral territory as being any significant aspect of their religion.

    I was also very surprised to discover how hugely expansive the original Zionist plans were, that they obviously wanted to seize the land on the east bank of the Jordan River as well as the West Bank. The top Zionist leaders really did intend to have Israel include all the land “from the Nile to the Euphrates,” including large portions of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Egypt.

    Really pretty astonishing for a tiny ideological activist group…

    It was definitely worth reading and thanks again for bringing it to my attention.

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  704. Rurik says:
    @PhysicistDave

    The fault, dear Colin, lies not in the Jews but in your and my own ethnic group.

    We need to own up to that truth.

    only insofar as Gentiles are far too willing to take those thirty shekels, and betray their own, like Woodrow Wilson did when he dragged America into WWI, (yes, on behalf of the Jews).

    Did not Henry Ford proclaim

    “The international financiers are behind all war. …

    ‘In an interview with Montreal reporters, and that the only way to achieve world peace would be’

    “to get the fifty leading Jewish financiers of the world together and render their manipulations of money impossible.” …

    Sounds as true today, as it was back then. And Mr. Ford, (unlike the rest of us) was there at the time.

    as to the civil war, whose ships brought the African slaves to America’s shores? Who sold them to the misguided Gentiles?

    is the The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews just another anti-Semitic blood libel?

    Different ethnic groups have predominated in different areas of life.

    If someone would just explain that to the denizens of Gaza, perhaps they’d finally understand, and stop their anti-Semitic activities!

    Just like the people of Ukraine.

    Different ethnic groups have predominated in different areas of life.

    And if Vicky Nuland and Itor Kolomoisky tend to dominate in Ukraine, and orchestrate the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, then ..

    The world is what it is.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  705. Rurik says:
    @Ron Unz

    Really pretty astonishing for a tiny ideological activist group…

    humanity should never underestimate the power of money

    Look at how in a very short time, Nazi Germany went from being prostrate, to explosively triumphant, simply by pulling those fang$ out of its national jugular.

    Or how the Western world, so gloriously hopeful at the cusp of the twentieth century, has been driven to abased ignominy, in just a few short generation’s time.

    even the noblest of ‘kings’, can be made to waste away, by a tiny, (and even unseen) parasite

    • Thanks: 24th Alabama
  706. Rurik says:
    @Colin Wright

    Finally, we are seeing what happens when Jews really get to be in charge.

    an Irish buddy of mine just sent me this

    go to 5:30 in, and watch the “Irish” Prime Minister explain how Ireland is far, far too Irish..

  707. @PhysicistDave

    According to the New Testament, Jesus was just as crazy as you are: the NT is quite clear that Jesus claimed that the End of the World was imminent.

    My view, after thinking about this for many years, is that Jesus is referring to the destruction of Jerusalem. It’s quite amazing that both capital cities of the two nations that executed him were destroyed by fire within a short time of each other. This is the traditional Christian perspective as well.

    I will however accept your offer and cease and desist from this website. People here do not comment with good intentions of educating each other but to hurt and to malign each other. It’s a collection of evil demonic spirits.

    But I’m perfectly happy to engage with you outside of this thread. I think I can help you overcome your cynicism your hopelessness and your Thantophilia or love of death. The problem for you and all your atheist buddies is that death will not be the end of your misery but only the beginning of it. That’s because you will be raised from the dead and forced to make a most awkward embarrassing and uncomfortable account of your life to our Creator. And then you will spend eternity in the Lake of fire. At least you’ll be good for something as we enjoy watching you suffer for your crimes. If you want to avert that horrible fate you are invited to write to me:
    [email protected]

  708. Anon[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael Korn

    I guess what the wackjob means is it will get boring for him up there on the clouds with the harps. They will need some lurid entertainment, a spiritual snuff film of people like Dave, who defies God and destroys hope, being tortured for eternity in fire. They think they will live forever in heaven so Dave and his pals will have to suffer forever to keep that entertainment going for them. What a bunch of losers!

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  709. @geokat62

    McCullough was convicted of medical heresy in a trial reminiscent of the late medieval inquisition trials. His board certification in internal medicine was revoked for non-conformity to vaccine doctrine, without serious consideration of the medical evidence in question.

  710. @Michael Korn

    You will return, Michael. Discussion and polemics, especially the heated kind,
    are nourishment for the brain, and are addictive and rejuvenative.
    Your comments are valued and would be missed.

  711. @anon

    Wikipedia is dishonest in peddling distortions.

    I’m well aware of Wikipedia’s shortcomings. That said, Wikipedia is handy and, as long as the subject matter isn’t related to egregious crimes committed by Malevolent International Jewry, they’re generally OK.

    To their credit, they at least admitted that A Jewish financier (Henry Strakosch) provided ‘large financial gifts to Winston Churchill (refer to my comment # 707 in this thread) on the eve of WWII.
    Of course Wikipedia was less than forthcoming in that it did not specify the gargantuan amount of said gifts, or cared to speculate as to WHY said bribes were given to this traitor (and how it may have influenced him to conduct foreign policy that suited the agenda of the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel, otherwise known as ZOG).

  712. @Rurik

    but I think he [MoFo-Bill] is more in error than malicious or devious, but I could be wrong

    Of course. I too could be wrong about his intentions. But it wouldn’t matter if I was, in the final analysis.
    That because anyone arguing on behalf of heavy handed Authoritarian Big Government to micromanage the lives of the citizenry (as the MoFo and his guru Michael Hudson do), is …..
    BY DEFAULT ALSO ARGUING FOR A CONSOLIDATION OF POWER IN THE HANDS OF THE VAMPIRE SQUID (aka ZOG).

    The ONLY way to de-fang ZOG after the first mortal blow is inflicted (ie: confiscation of the Federal Reserve – their endless ‘River of Riches’) is to gut government and to decentralise massively what little remains.
    Deprived of a monolithic all powerful state which they can infiltrate to gain the levers of power, ZOG will wither on the vine.
    Those Jewish businesses/corporations that survive, will be forced to compete in the market place providing goods and services at competitive prices to satisfy the needs of consumers.
    In other words, a return to Free Market Capitalism.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  713. @PhysicistDave

    Compare and contrast.

    [Colin] Perhaps in the past. But at the moment? In America?

    [Dave]Colin, old buddy, do you think “the Jews” caused the Civil War?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  714. @Michael Korn

    Our little buddy Michael Korn wrote to me:

    My view, after thinking about this for many years, is that Jesus is referring to the destruction of Jerusalem. It’s quite amazing that both capital cities of the two nations that executed him were destroyed by fire within a short time of each other. This is the traditional Christian perspective as well.

    There is not just one single traditional Christian reading on this matter: there are a variety of approaches.

    And your reading is tortured indeed! Consider for example Mt. 24:

    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

    33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

    34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    I do not know how to break this to you, but that generation has indeed passed away and yet the stars have not yet fallen down from heaven.

    Yes, yes, I know of all the (mutually contradictory) Christain ways of weaseling out of this and all the other relevant passages in the New Testament.

    Weasels all.

    Those who wrote the New Testament, and probably Jesus himself, thought the end of the world was at hand.

    They were wrong.

    Oh, and the Tooth Fairy does not exist, either.

    Our self-admitted mental case added:

    But I’m perfectly happy to engage with you outside of this thread. I think I can help you overcome your cynicism your hopelessness and your Thantophilia or love of death.

    Ummm…. you see…. I try to limit my interaction with people who admit to being psychotic!

    Our psycho also wrote:

    The problem for you and all your atheist buddies is that death will not be the end of your misery but only the beginning of it. That’s because you will be raised from the dead and forced to make a most awkward embarrassing and uncomfortable account of your life to our Creator. And then you will spend eternity in the Lake of fire. At least you’ll be good for something as we enjoy watching you suffer for your crimes.

    You will enjoy watching us suffer for all eternity… even though we have done nothing wrong.

    I see you have been channeling Aquinas, eh?

    Pretty much says it all, don’t you think?

    That is indeed what Christianity is all about!

    And some poor suckers still fall for the lie that Christianity is all about brotherly love.

    Nope — it is all about looking forward to seeing non-Christians suffer horrific torture.

    For what it’s worth, I do not wish you to suffer horrific torture.

    Or any torture at all.

    I merely hope that someday, somehow, you will free yourself from this miasma of hatred called Christianity.

    But you probably won’t.

    The psycho also wrote:

    I will however accept your offer and cease and desist from this website.

    I’ve seen you promise that more times than I can count.

    You always break your word.

    Because you worship the Prince of Lies — Jesus of Nazareth.

  715. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Colin] Compare and contrast.

    [Colin] Perhaps in the past. But at the moment? In America?

    [Dave]Colin, old buddy, do you think “the Jews” caused the Civil War?

    I made clear that the problem is in your phrase “at the moment.” History did not start yesterday.

    The looming disaster we face goes way back — to the Civil War, the Progressive movement, World War I, etc.

    And it is just not plausible that all of those historical antecedents are due to the Jews.

    The Jews are Johnny-come-latelies who got involved after the real disasters had already happened.

    I’m afraid you are all-too-typical of most Americans who think that anything prior to their own lifetime did not, for all practical purposes,, really happen.

    But it did. As Faulkner said, the past is not only not dead, it is not really past.

    But I doubt I can get that through to you.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  716. @Rurik

    My wee little pal Rurik wrote to me:

    [Dave] The fault, dear Colin, lies not in the Jews but in your and my own ethnic group.

    We need to own up to that truth.

    [Rurik] only insofar as Gentiles are far too willing to take those thirty shekels, and betray their own, like Woodrow Wilson did when he dragged America into WWI, (yes, on behalf of the Jews).

    And there were probably some Jews around in Pompeii when Vesuvius erupted.

    That doesn’t mean the Jews caused the eruption.

    There has been an enormous amount of historical scholarship on the origins of WW I: the historians disagree wildly on where the blame lies.

    But I do not know of any legitimate historian who thinks the Jews started it.

    Same with the Civil War. And the Progressive movement.

    After Jewish Emancipation, a number of Jews got involved in various activities, enterprises, and movements started by White Gentiles. But those Jews were, as a matter of the historical record, Johnny-come-latelies. You give the Jews way too much credit in claiming that they initiated these events or movements.

    They just didn’t.

    My little buddy also wrote:

    is the The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews just another anti-Semitic blood libel?

    Are you joking???

    That is a product of the Nation of Islam. I ran into a group of them a couple decades ago: they are very, very, very strange people. Not exactly a reputable historical source.

    You don’t know this?

    Our little buddy also wrote:

    [Dave] Different ethnic groups have predominated in different areas of life.

    [Rurik\ If someone would just explain that to the denizens of Gaza, perhaps they’d finally understand, and stop their anti-Semitic activities!

    Forty-five years ago, I was already condemning how the Zionists treated the Palestinians (see here on page 4), and doing so under my own name.

    And I have paid dearly professionally for having the guts to do so.

    For how many decades have you been willing to publicly condemn their crimes, publicly using your own name.

    You still are too much of a coward to do so, aren’t you?

    You’re just a sniveling little coward. All snark but no backbone. At all.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Colin Wright
    , @Ron Unz
  717. aesop says:
    @Michael Korn

    I think I can help you overcome your cynicism your hopelessness and your Thantophilia or love of death. The problem for you and all your atheist buddies is that death will not be the end of your misery but only the beginning of it.

    What makes you think that you know anything about death?

    • Replies: @Anon
  718. Rurik says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    The ONLY way to de-fang ZOG after the first mortal blow is inflicted (ie: confiscation of the Federal Reserve – their endless ‘River of Riches’

    of course I agree, but does he advocate for ZOG to remain in control of America’s money? Or for someone else, (like himself, for instance) to have that power?

    I suspect that his point is that having the flexibility and power of fiat currency is nice for a regime, (if you can get the gig), and that having a gold standard is restrictive.

    Make no mistake, I’m on your side, and consider gold, (or several precious metals), -backed money to be the only sane policy to protect people from corruption, especially when it’s your most determined enemy who prints unlimited shekels to enslave and destroy you.

    I’m just not certain that all the fiat money people are in league with ZOG, even if I suppose they are by default.

    In other words, a return to Free Market Capitalism.

    what do you think about this guy down in Argentina?

    Why does it seem to me he’s like DeShabos in Florida, and is fanatical about licking ZOG’s ball sack at every opportunity.

    Rejecting BRICS and embracing ZOG’s dollar. Flying to Israel and preening his abased servility.

    I don’t think that is a good way to return to Free Market Capitalism, but then I admit I’m no expert. Not even close.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  719. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…But it did. As Faulkner said, the past is not only not dead, it is not really past.

    But I doubt I can get that through to you.’

    I’m perfectly well aware of that.

    But my point is that Jews have come along and put their collective thumb down on one end of the scale — hard, and with increasing effect.

    All one has to do is imagine an America that had never admitted Jews; then picture where we’d be. Economically, sociologically, and demographically — around 1960, give or take. There’d be two hundred million Americans, we’d be agreeing that blacks should be allowed to use public drinking fountains, and people would still be moaning about how factory workers made more than college professors. Technologically and scientifically, we’d be around 2000-2010.

    Nitpicking aside, to think otherwise requires a determined effort to ignore just who is pushing the worst trends in American society the hardest.

    This isn’t to say Jews are solely responsible for it all — but there’s a balance, and Jews are overwhelmingly clustered at one end of the beam, making it tip.

    This is an unpleasant fact, but it remains a fact nevertheless. You should face it. To attempt to proceed without even admitting it is futile. We will keep trying to win a war where we won’t admit who the enemy is.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @Chebyshev
    , @PhysicistDave
  720. Rurik says:
    @PhysicistDave

    And there were probably some Jews around in Pompeii when Vesuvius erupted.

    That doesn’t mean the Jews caused the eruption.

    ah, the Stanford physicist chimes in!

    what luck!

    So.. little buddy, I guess you sure set me straight, by demonstrating (with your genius) that anyone suggesting that Jews had something to do with dragging America into WWI, (or the creation of the (((Fed))), (or certain other heinous crimes), is like suggesting that ‘Jews caused natural disasters too! Because one is just as absurd as the other, huh?

    I get it. Wow, we sure are ‘blessed’ to have such a genius to set us all straight on these things.

    There has been an enormous amount of historical scholarship on the origins of WW I: the historians disagree wildly on where the blame lies.

    that actually is true, (a blind squirrel, and all that), but not one historical scholar that I know if, completely dismisses any Jewish intrigue with all the machinations behind those revolutions and funding and ultimate World War. At least none that I take seriously, but then I’m not a Stanford genius!

    But I do not know of any legitimate historian who thinks the Jews started it.

    I didn’t say ‘the Jews started it”, did I? So we can now add liar to your repertoire. I’m shocked, shocked’

    What I did say is that Wilson dragged the U.S. into the war on behalf of Jews.

    Now, I agree there aren’t too many “respectable” historical scholars who would characterize it in that way, but that is one of the many beauties of sites like this, where people can talk in plain language. What was the degree of Jewish intrigue in bringing about the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, or in controlling Perfidious at the time, or in controlling the Wilson regime?

    That is very debatable, and scholars (kosher and otherwise) can pour over and parse such things, as they might, but I doubt too many of them would suggest that any Jewish participation in such things, is the equivalent of suggesting Jews caused the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. But then, they aren’t Stanford geniuses, are they?

    Same with the Civil War. And the Progressive movement.

    I didn’t say they started the Civil War, or the progressive movement, for that matter, but now that you’ve brought it up, I’d say that Jews have been inordinately seminal in the progressive movement, and I’d go one further, and suggest that anyone who would disagree with that, is either an imbecile, or a scoundrel / liar. Such has been the overt and glaring Jewish prominence in the progressive movement.

    You give the Jews way too much credit in claiming that they initiated these events or movements.

    They just didn’t.

    I didn’t say it was only Jews,

    but sans Jewish influence, I’m pretty comfortable saying the corrupt Wilson regime would not have the handed over control of America’s currency/money to international Jewish bankers..

    and America would not have joined WWI or, WWII, because there would not have even been a WWII, without the activities of ‘the Jews’. The world would not today be roiling over genocidal outrages in Palestine, or a ((contrived)) war in Ukraine. We would not have had the “seven nations in five years” to destroy on behalf of Israel. We would not have trans ten year olds, or open hostility to every traditional value ever held in America or Europe, in just about everything we see on the TV (Talmud-vision) today. Europe and North America would not be welcoming in millions of hostile non-Western invaders, because these values are Jewish supremacist values, not Western values.

    But then again, I’m not a Stanford-trained genius, so we all can’t be expected *not* to see the obvious. For that remarkable feat, it takes a genius.

    The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews

    Are you joking???

    That is a product of the Nation of Islam. I ran into a group of them a couple decades ago: they are very, very, very strange people. Not exactly a reputable historical source.

    perhaps you should explain that to our host

    https://www.unz.com/author/noi-research-group/

    not that he endorses everything they say, but neither does he dismiss it all (if I’m not mistaken about that) based on their being “very, very, very strange people.”

    Were Jews over-represented in the African slave trade in America? I’d say that is very, very, very likely.

    Forty-five years ago, I was already condemning how the Zionists treated the Palestinians (see here on page 4), and doing so under my own name.

    you can be forgiven a certain Pollyanna, due to your youth. No Right of Return, the Jews can all stay, no reparations to the families of murdered Arabs, and so forth, but then, as I mentioned, you were young, (and I might add, less abrasive in your genius).

    You’re just a sniveling little coward.

    because I don’t post here under my own name, eh?

    Well, for one thing, I tell the truth, unlike you, genius, who shills ZOG boilerplate.

    And even as you would no-doubt insist is not the case, Jewish supremacists (and their minions – whose name is Legion ; ) are doing everything they can to destroy anyone who questions their kosher lies about Building Seven, (have you ever heard of it?), Ukraine, Gaza, ((9/11)), Covid, Climate Justice, rampant pedophilia, ((open borders)), and all the other moral and spiritual sewage being ((force injected)) into our society, in order to destroy it. And so for the moment, yes, a lot of us consider it prudent to be anonymous.

    Case in point are Julian Assange, and Edward Snowden, and the Jan 6th political prisoners languishing today in ZOG’s gulags.

    You, Phy-Do, have nothing whatsoever to fear from ZOG or its minions, because you’re one of them. So it really isn’t so courageous for a tiresome and banal aging shill like yourself, to use your own name, except insofar as you obviously don’t comprehend the degree of embarrassment you most assuredly are heaping upon Stanford and those tenured and alumni, who if they knew of your cringe-worthy efforts here, would certainly want to distance themselves in every way they could.

    So for that, (even as your oblivious) I suppose you deserve ‘credit’ for exposing to the rest of us, the level of genius they have at places like Stanford.

    “Well” done!

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @PhysicistDave
  721. Ron Unz says:
    @Rurik

    What I did say is that Wilson dragged the U.S. into the war on behalf of Jews.

    But that’s factually incorrect. Nearly all the wealthy, powerful Jews were opposed to American involvement in WWI, along with the Irish and the Germans.

    The East Coast WASP elites were the ones strongly pressing for war and some of their private correspondence has them bitterly denouncing the Jews for successfully blocking their effort.

    You really should read my long article from a few months ago on some of those issues:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-balfour-declaration-and-116000-american-lives/

    This one is also relevant:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-lost-histories-of-the-great-war/

  722. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @aesop

    The Korny wackjob probably would say he doesn’t know anything about death, except what Jeezus teaches him. And then he hangs on for the ride. We all have to be very grateful to David Miller for deploying his awesome intellect and rhetorical skills to chase this little kike troublemaker away. It’s good to see such a highly educated person actually being of use to the rest of us!

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  723. @PhysicistDave

    There is a critical difference between you and MK. He is aware of his problems
    and struggles honestly to cope with them. Introspection, although contrary to
    your nature, might be helpful. Anarchy is a place where the mind goes to die.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  724. Rurik says:
    @Ron Unz

    when I wrote that, I was well aware that you and I are at odds on that issue, (as we are on a few, like the respective prudence of Prop 187, and others..).

    I wondered if you might point out the articles you’ve written on it, and your (as always) excellent scholarly references and so forth. But alas, I’ve read your articles, and yet remain unconvinced that Jews didn’t effect the decision for America to join WWI.

    I know about Jacob Schiff’s pro-German antipathy for Czarist Russia, and the loans to England that Americans wanted to see get repaid, and so forth. But I think what nags at me, was something I read long ago by Henry Ford, (I can’t find it now), who recalled being on a ship of some kind, and a Jewish fellow passenger was bragging to Ford at how Jews orchestrated the whole brouhaha, (obviously with lots and lots of Gentile collaboration). And Ford, (as I recall reading) considered the fellow’s arguments very compelling. From what I recall, that was the moment that sent Ford down the rabbit-hole of Jewish financial intrigues.

    Obviously nothing I write, (it’s not even necessary to point this out ; ) has the weight of scholarship that you Sir, bring to the table, but yet what I do have is perhaps a certain cynical outlook, honed after many decades, vis-a-vis the way the world works, behind the scenes, and I’d wonder if even you would agree, that much of what is written about historical events, is agenda-driven lies. Especially by ‘respectable’ published historians and especially when it comes to controversial things like Jewish involvement in things like the World Wars.

    Were Jewish financiers involved with the Russo-Japanese War of 1905? Were Jews involved in the Bolshevik Revolution? Did that revolution have anything to do with WWI?

    Of course I am loath to go against your very weighty scholarship and unassailable erudition, (when especially, I’m just a working-class bloke, with zero accolades). But I am sincere, for what that’s worth.

    And what I do, is look around at the world today. And see how things work, and then perhaps venture to extrapolate how people are, and what they do today, to how things might have been, yesterday, because trying to parse why we went into WWI, and then WWII, might, just might have some parallels into why we are engaged in wars all over the place, today.

    I know Americans of my type, and have learned to know a bit about how others from around the world, also think and behave. And what I’ve learned, is that typical Americans are very opposed to contrived wars for profit or fun. They have to be dragged into these wars, always by lies and false flags. Every major war we Americans have engaged in, for over a hundred years, has been accomplished by lies and false flags. Every one. WWI, WWII, Vietnam, all post-((9/11)) wars, and so on..

    So it all comes to to cui bono, and in the case of WWI, Germany was lied to and betrayed and handed over to Jewish supremacists at Versailles to lord it over them, and humiliate them, and impose a Progressive-liberal hell on earth, to the German people during the ((Weimar regime)), as Russia was delivered over to their tender mercies, fee simple.
    Was that a coincidence? Just a felicitous happenstance even tho Jews did all they could to see Germany prevail?

    I don’t know. Perhaps so, or perhaps not. Your articles have done more to muddy up my previous assumptions, but have not so far convinced me that Jews did not act within the Wilson regime to drag America into that war. When, as we all know, Wilson did betray the American people in the most egregious way possible, by undoing all the struggles and sacrifices our Founders and Andrew Jackson and so many others made, to keep our Republic free from slavery to Central Bankers, and in particular, genocidal Jewish supremacist Central Bankers.

    And when Wilson was done, it was all for naught. Today we’re the most Jewed of all Jewed nations around, save Perfidious (or now Ukraine) or Israel (occupied Palestine) itself.

    At least, that’s how it seems to this particular working class American country boy.

    FWIW

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Anon
  725. Rurik says:

    So it all comes to to cui bono, and in the case of WWI, Germany was lied to and betrayed and handed over to Jewish supremacists at Versailles to lord it over them, and humiliate them, and impose a Progressive-liberal hell on earth, to the German people during the ((Weimar regime)), as Russia was delivered over to their tender mercies, fee simple.

    I reread that and wondered if I wasn’t remiss in leaving out the The First Hungarian Republic, ‘established in the wake of the dissolution of Austria-Hungary following World War I’.

    Led by the savagely cruel Jewish supremacist Bela Kun.

    Kun’s rival, Count Mihály Károlyi

    yielded to United States president Woodrow Wilson’s demand for pacifism by ordering the unilateral self-disarmament of the Hungarian Army.

    [my emphasis]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Soviet_Republic

    so again, it seems that Wilson intervened on behalf of a genocidal Jewish supremacist at the end of WWI, against the well-being of yet another Christian, European nation and people.

    How many scholarly history books, published in the West, would characterize what happened in such stark, (if accurate) terms?

    Between 56,000 and 150,000 of the Whites were murdered as part of the Red Terror, organized by Béla Kun.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea_during_the_Russian_Civil_War

    I remember being struck when I read of Kun’s fellow Jewish supremacist’s activities

    Before Brusilov set out, a local decision was made to massacre those who had surrendered. The order to kill them was signed by Béla Kun, the head of the Crimean regional committee, Zemlyachka, and Semyon Dukelsky, the head of the Crimean branch of the Cheka.[7] According to the historian Donald Rayfield, Kun and Zemlyachka were lovers, and she was “a Cheka sadist who tied the officers in pairs to planks and burned them alive in furnaces or drowned them in barges that she sank offshore.[8] Estimates vary of the number killed, which may have been 70,000.[9]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalia_Zemlyachka

    all set in motion by Woodrow Wilson, who we’re to believe was not influenced by Jewish machinations

    as to linking to Wiki, we all know that Wiki is (woke), and so if anything, they would downplay the Jewish supremacist roles in all of this.

  726. Ron Unz says:
    @Rurik

    I read long ago by Henry Ford, (I can’t find it now), who recalled being on a ship of some kind, and a Jewish fellow passenger was bragging to Ford at how Jews orchestrated the whole brouhaha, (obviously with lots and lots of Gentile collaboration). And Ford, (as I recall reading) considered the fellow’s arguments very compelling.

    Exactly. Ford claimed that in 1915 or 1916 some Jewish activist had boasted to him that the Jews were the ones behind WWI and would also determine how long it lasted.

    Frankly, I don’t regard that as “solid evidence” for the true origins of WWI, though I understand that some of the commenters on this website might disagree.

    • Replies: @H. L. M
    , @Rurik
  727. H. L. M says:
    @Ron Unz

    That’s exactly right.

    Kindly tell us what you believe to be the cause of ww jew.

    • Replies: @H. L. M
  728. Rurik says:
    @Ron Unz

    Certainly not solid evidence for the origin of the war, (which was very complicated) and certainly not evidence in and of itself that Jews dragged the U.S. into it. But taken as a whole, and considering all the other outcomes of that war, and who benefited, and who suffered, and what is playing out right in front of us all, in real time, today, (a Jewish supremacist effort to embroil the world in yet another global catastrophic war), for what is obviously to the benefit of globalist, Jewish supremacists, (like the destruction of Russia, and the destruction of Europe, and the destruction of North America and Palestine and Lebanon and Syria and many more..

    To consider that WWI, was an anomaly, and that while Jews were obviously involved with funding and orchestrating the Bolshevik revolution, and the destruction of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Ottoman Empire, and replacing them all with a Global Order that would ensconce them (Jewish bankers) as the undisputed masters of the world ~ seems a bit too much of a coincidence to me.

    ‘Wow, we did all we could to bolster Germany, but now that it’s been defeated, it will be delivered over to us, to do with as we will’.

    c’est la vie

    • Agree: Caroline
  729. Anon[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Of course I am loath to go against your very weighty scholarship and unassailable erudition, (when especially, I’m just a working-class bloke, with zero accolades). But I am sincere, for what that’s worth.

    Please don’t act so self-deprecating. FWIW if there were a choice in an election between RU and RUrik, I would vote for the latter hands down. Because RUrik has common sense and a lifetime of hard work and honest labor, while RU was a programming whore for Wall Street. Not only that but RU excels only in analyzing the ideas and policies of others. He has no practical wisdom or useful advice of his own. He is a spectator and an endlessly bloviating analyst of the creative urges of others.

    Recall the words of Teddy Roosevelt:

    • Replies: @Rurik
  730. @Ron Unz

    ‘But that’s factually incorrect. Nearly all the wealthy, powerful Jews were opposed to American involvement in WWI, along with the Irish and the Germans…’

    Without looking into it, I’ve often suspected as much. There’s an anachronistic assumption that since the Germans were antagonistic towards Jews in the Second World War and vice-versa, that the same would have applied in the First World War.

    As you say, not at all. If anything, given that the Jewish elite in America was more exclusively of German extraction then than it was later, and that Jews were treated relatively well in Wilhelmine Germany, it would have been odd if American Jewry hadn’t been pro-German. Those were the days when Jews were ‘Germans of the Mosaic faith.’ Russia was the big bad bear.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Wielgus
    , @Wielgus
  731. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    thank you for your very kind words of support, MK?

    But I have to add I have great respect for RU

  732. Rurik says:
    @Colin Wright

    Nearly all the wealthy, powerful Jews were opposed to American involvement in WWI

    I’ve often suspected as much.

    perhaps when Germany was seen as a force to destroy Czarist Russia, Jews, (including American Jews) were pro-Germany. But then when the destruction of Germany loomed, and advantages could be glimmered, (like being given Palestine, [and Germany]) sentiments changed.

    Do you think the Weimar regime that controlled Germany following the betrayals at the Armistice and then Versailles, involved Jews? Was Woodrow Wilson his own man, or was he perhaps under the influence of some of his ((advisors)) when he came up with his Fourteen Points ruse, to get Germany to disarm?

    was the idea of the Stab in the Back,

    just another anti-Semitic canard, by disgruntled Gentiles looking for a scapegoat?

    Or was there perhaps a shred of truth to it?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  733. @24th Alabama

    Our little newbie 24th Alabama wrote to me:

    There is a critical difference between you and MK. He is aware of his problems and struggles honestly to cope with them.

    That is a lie. Did you actually read what he wrote above????

    Here is what our little psychopath wrote above:

    The problem for you and all your atheist buddies is that death will not be the end of your misery but only the beginning of it. That’s because you will be raised from the dead and forced to make a most awkward embarrassing and uncomfortable account of your life to our Creator. And then you will spend eternity in the Lake of fire. At least you’ll be good for something as we enjoy watching you suffer for your crimes. [emphasis added]

    You really cannot see how deeply and profoundly evil this sociopath is???

    Do you share his sociopathic views???

    I have known thousands of Christians in the real world. And, yes, a few of them have warned me that I was in danger of hellfire for not being a Christian.

    But not one single one of them has told me that he or she would “enjoy” watching me suffer in Hell.

    Do you really lack the ability to see how deeply evil MK is?

    Would you really want someone like that as a relative or neighbor?

    Can you really not see that MK needs an intervention, not praise from you saying that MK is “aware of his problems and struggles honestly to cope with them”?

    No, MK most assuredly does not realize how deeply sociopathic he is: he has confessed that he looks forward to seeing the vast majority of the human race suffering brutally inhuman torture in Hell for all eternity because we do not share his goofy religious views.

    If you cannot admit how profoundly evil that is, do you realize what that says about your own sociopathic personality? What is wrong with you?

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  734. @Rurik

    Our contemptible little coward Rurik wrote to me:

    So.. little buddy, I guess you sure set me straight, by demonstrating (with your genius) that anyone suggesting that Jews had something to do with dragging America into WWI, (or the creation of the (((Fed))), (or certain other heinous crimes), is like suggesting that ‘Jews caused natural disasters too! Because one is just as absurd as the other, huh?

    The Jews and the Irish and the Germans and the Italians and the English all “had something to do with” lots and lots of historical events.

    But you and the other Jew Haters here keep insisting that the Jews bear primary responsibility for lots of events when that is just not so.

    All of you who behave this way are seriously mentally deranged.

    Facts matter: Jews have played a major role in Hollywood. There were quite a few Jews among the early Bolsheviks. Jews have been very successful in the American academic world.

    But Jews played very little role in the coming of WW I or the American Civil War.

    But when I just pointed that out, you lacked the mental ability to acknowledge those obvious facts.

    You are mentally deranged.

    The despicable excuse for a man also wrote:

    [Dave] You’re just a sniveling little coward.

    [The sniveling coward] because I don’t post here under my own name, eh?

    Exactly.

    I have known since I was a child that I was willing to die for my country. I have had ancestors who risked their lives on behalf of the United States: my maternal grandfather was in the Pacific theater in WW II; one of my ancestors was even in General Washington’s army.

    They risked their lives.

    For you to post your comments under your actual name would involve nothing like the risks that they took. Your opinions here are not important enough to land you in jail. At most, your next-door neighbor or your brother-in-law might run across your comments and, quite correctly, judge that you are a nutjob.

    But you are afraid.

    And if you are afraid to even post your own name here, you are most assuredly too cowardly to express your opinions in the real world, where everyone would know who you are and your next-door neighbor or your brother-in-law would, quite certainly, judge that you are a nutjob.

    I lost my career in academic physics because I had the guts to speak up publicly and in print and tell the truth about the Zionist crimes against the Palestinians.

    But I would do it just the same all over again.

    Because it is better — much, much better! — to suffer obloquy and professional ostracism and still live your life as a man than it is to spend your life, as you do, hiding under the covers, afraid of your own shadow.

    Neither you nor I have been called upon — yet! — to give our life for our country.

    But you lack the guts to even take the slightest risk of social opprobrium by actually speaking up under your own name.

    You are a contemptible, despicable excuse for a man. You do not even understand what it is to be a man.

    I cannot see how you can look yourself in the mirror and continue living.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
    , @Rurik
  735. Chebyshev says:
    @Colin Wright

    Imagine an America that had never admitted Jews; then picture where we’d be. Economically, sociologically, and demographically — around 1960, give or take.

    Yes, we’d be worse off in some areas. For example, the sports betting industry in Las Vegas wouldn’t be where it is today. Jewish mafia figures like Bugsy Siegel and Lefty Rosenthal played big roles in expanding that industry, and many Jews, such as Matthew Berry, promote sports betting today and recommend bets for the little guy to place.

  736. @Rurik

    does he [MoFo-Bill] advocate for ZOG to remain in control of America’s money? Or for someone else, (like himself, for instance) to have that power?

    Yes, he’s said that he and his guru (the Marxist Michael Hudson), have suggested that the functions of the Fed will be transferred to some apparatchik, some favoured crony of the new ruling Politburo of the authoritarian Big Government state that MoFo proposes should rule over us.

    But that is a DISTINCTION WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE. Because ZOG would soon take over said government department, and we’d be where we are today. ie: the printing/conjuring of fiat money with no restraint.

    We KNOW with 100% certainty how that would play out, because we have a REAL WORLD example from the recent past.
    Immediately after WWII the Bank of England was nationalised. ie: no longer owned by that private cartel of Zionist misfits in the City of London.
    Sounds good so far, right?

    Well, it wasn’t a happy ending. Because the Talmudic miscreants in the City of London coerced/bribed/intimidated the government bureaucrats now in charge of the BoE into pursuing the same policies as before.
    You also wrote:

    I suspect that his point is that having the flexibility and power of fiat currency is nice for a regime …. and that having a gold standard is restrictive.

    The way you spun that, you almost made it sound like the issuing of Fiat currency has many positive attributes. Let me make this perfectly clear:

    Other than in extreme and existential cases (ie: perhaps during war and the approach of a meteorite with the potential to wipe out life on Earth), there are NO SCENARIOS WHERE A FIAT CURRENCY SYSTEM BENEFITS A SOCIETY IN THE LONG RUN.

    None whatsoever. It always ends in misery and despair – there are NO exceptions.
    Yes the USD, aided and abetted by its world reserve currency status has lasted over 50 years and might still have a few more years to run. But its days are numbered.

    Sure it’s theoretically possible to have a benevolent dictator that appoints an equally fiscally and monetarily competent individual in charge of the issuing of money, like a Dr Ron Paul.
    And, with a bit of luck, when they retire they might appoint equally competent and responsible people.
    But IN PRACTICE IT NEVER HAPPENS.
    Sooner or later ZOG manoeuvres its people into positions of power – almost always compromised individuals like Lindsey Graham and Donald J Chump, people who they have ‘dirt on’, thus enabling ZOG to get whatever it wants.

    You say that ‘ having a gold standard is restrictive”, like it’s a bad thing. If there was some measure you could take to prevent your daughter from becoming an opioid addict, from being incinerated in her car (EV’s tend to self combust and trap their occupants), from seeing your loved ones get cancer and die well before their time, would you not look at said ‘restriction’ in a positive light?
    Under the Classical Gold Standard, there was peace and prosperity like never before in history.
    Rurik, what is it that you have against peace and prosperity?

    So getting back to what you said before, yes I agree that a Fiat monetary experiment has flexibility and power – in the sense of the flexibility to create all manner of misery and impoverishment, the power to cause cataclysmic damage to society. It is all DOWNSIDE with no upside whatsoever.

    As for what I think of Javier Milei, the new President of Argentina, I have been effusive with praise for him in several UR threads of late (especially this one – before Ron Unz threatened to trash my comments since they were off topic: https://www.unz.com/runz/prof-john-beaty-and-the-true-origin-of-the-jews/?showcomments#comments).

    Milei is an Anarcho-Capitalist and well versed in Austrian School economics. He is BY FAR the most economically literate leader of any country on the planet and, if allowed to implement even a critical threshold of his reforms, will enable Argentina to rise like phoenix and become an economic powerhouse.
    Now, I get it that he’s been grovelling to ZOG and demonstrating his servility. That’s unfortunate and I would rather that he hadn’t.
    I don’t know if he genuinely means what he says or if he’s going along to get along and being a pragmatist.
    I suspect he has to say those things because he knows that ZOG could easily derail his project.
    In the end, a successful Argentina resulting from the application of Libertarian ideas is not in ZOG’s best interest. ZOG goes out of its way to demonise Capitalism after every recession, claiming it’s the Free Market run amok – when the reality is that ALL THE RECESSIONS OF SIGNIFICANCE ARE CAUSED BY GOVERNMENT and central banks that were empowered by government in the first place.

    SUMMARY: If Argentina is allowed to succeed, this will be a template for the rest of the world to follow. ie: drastic gutting of Big Government, Low personal and corporate taxes, minimal micromanagement of the lives of the citizenry.

    This is the OPPOSITE of what ZOG wants. They want more and Bigger Bloated Government, they want more control over the citizenry. Think about it, HOW do you think government gets so big?

    ANSWER: More and more wealth is diverted from the productive private sector to fund the various money squandering boondoggles – like endless wars, subsidies for Green Energy initiatives, bail-outs of ZOG owned financial institutions that have gotten into trouble from reckless business practices and speculation etc.

    Simply put, the bigger the government sector, the POORER the private sector (ie: you and me) that needs to fund it.
    The poorer we are, the more dependent we are on ‘Gubmint’. And that’s exactly how ZOG likes it.
    Because a poor citizenry does not have the wherewithal to oppose Gubmint, does not have the time to research if the experimental mRNA gene therapy that masquerades as a Covid vaccine is safe or not.
    That’s because the citizenry are working two or three shitty part times jobs to make ends meet.
    That’s all by design – designed by ZOG.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  737. @Ron Unz

    Nearly all the wealthy, powerful Jews were opposed to American involvement in WWI, along with the Irish and the Germans.

    Well, that’s your opinion Ron – an opinion based on public pronouncements made by said Jews.
    But what they really thought was spoken behind closed doors.
    This has been discussed in other UR threads in the past and more than a few knowledgeable contributors have furnished evidence that Rurik was right and that you were wrong.
    You also wrote:

    The East Coast WASP elites were the ones strongly pressing for war and some of their private correspondence has them bitterly denouncing the Jews for successfully blocking their effort.

    That was all ‘THEATRE’ designed to fool the gullible and hide the fact that the Jewish hierarchy wanted war. Let’s also get a few things straight about what the WASP elites are strongly pressing for at any given time.
    In the modern era one could describe the likes of Lindsey Graham, John McCain and Dick Cheney as being among the WASP political elite, and I could dredge up more than a few WASPS among the financial elite as well.
    But to the extent that they are elite and wealthy, is due to their SUBSERVIENCE TO ZOG.
    So, when they give their ‘opinions’ in public, how Mr Unz do you know for certain that they genuinely believe that? Do you know that they aren’t being bribed/intimidated into saying such things by their ZOG benefactors?

    SUMMARY: In a similar way, the WASP elites in the early 20th century (with a few exceptions – like Henry Ford), were all SOCK PUPPETS OF ZOG.

    And, in relation to the ‘ American’ Jewish financial elite (like Paul Warburg – who was born in Hamburg Germany), he no doubt still had friends and family in his country of birth and wished no harm on them or on his beloved Germany.
    He may have GENUINELY wanted there to be no war. However, when the decision came in from ZOG central (ie: that shadowy group of Talmudists in the City of London that controlled then, as they do now, the entirety of the western financial system), when the decision came in that Lord Rothschild and his offsiders had decreed that: ‘WAR WITH GERMANY IT SHALL BE’ ….
    then all previous bets were off.

    When the hierarchy of ZOG makes the irrevocable final ruling, no further correspondence will be entered into.
    From that moment on ALL the Jews acted in unison to achieve that common goal – the destruction of Germany.
    And that’s EXACTLY HOW THINGS PLAYED OUT.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  738. @PhysicistDave

    But you and the other Jew Haters here keep insisting that the Jews bear primary responsibility for lots of events when that is just not so.

    No gentile writes this way. Only a MALEVOLENT JEW takes personal offence when his tribe is criticised and instantly responds with a barrage of knee-jerk retaliations.
    BTW, we’re tired of hearing how you came out against the oppression of the Apartheid Israeli state 40 years ago and done jack shit in the interim.
    There are a ton of Jews and people among the citizenry (of all ethnicities) that have come out and criticised the Zionist oppressors in Occupied Palestine. Because of the sheer volume of them, ZOG cares not one way or the other what the rank and file citizenry say. They save their energy by focusing on high profile individuals like Roger Waters and what they have to say.
    They’re laser focused on destroying and smearing that select few – because they have the potential to influence millions.

    NOT SO for the 9/11 False Flag, where ZOG are much more sensitive – because exposure of their orchestration of this egregious crime will bring about their demise.
    On that issue, you remain a chicken shit to the present day, being careful to repeat the official narrative word perfect – not even the slightest deviation from the official story.

    You’re too gutless to call out ZOG. You’re a spineless coward who has the nerve to denigrate Rurik, an individual of proven integrity.
    You’re not fit to polish his boots Dovid, so quit with your lame attempts at virtue signalling.

    • Thanks: Rurik
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  739. @PhysicistDave

    I have vowed not to insult or ridicule anyone
    unless I can come up with an original thought,
    both vicious and funny. This may take a while;
    humor is difficult.

    Best wishes,

    • Agree: IreneAthena
  740. @Michael Korn

    My goodness, MevaMichael Kornishir, you’ve made more “final tour” announcements than Elton John, and that’s a lot! I get it though, after too much time arguing with the gnomes on this site, one just has to say, “Enough!” and take a break.

    After a while, a person learns which folks (cough, Physisicist Dave… cough, cough) are playing the role of swine at bat, lying in wait to take a swing at pearls, hurling them back at one’s face, and taking great delight in any angry reaction that provokes. Listeners-in may pick up some knowledge watching the back-and-forth, but when the conversation turns to abuse, it’s time to stop “casting pearls before swine,” “feeding the trolls,” and start “turning the other cheek” (which in certain circumstances might be interpreted as a directive to do an abrupt about-face, with a silent , “You can K.M.A.” withering look cast over one’s shoulder as one walks away.)

    Those commenters are different from those here who may have radically different (and even wrong, but sincerely and passionately held) beliefs from oneself.. Respectful dialogue is why I keep coming back here, periodically, after restorative times away. Enjoy your break! ‘Til next time! — IA

    • Agree: 24th Alabama
    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  741. @IreneAthena

    Physisicist —WOOPS, too many “s’s” in that word. I blame the mental hisssssing sound invocation of that individual’s moniker evokes. I don’t believe I’ve ever had an exchange with him, but I’ve observed how nasty he is to others.

    Still, I don’t think, should Fizzz end up in hell, anybody will be rejoicing to see him there…

    [MORE]
    …especially not God, who originally created hell for the Devil and his angels, not for humans (even individuals like “The Physisicist”) who were made in God’s image, to reflect His glory and participate in His creativity. The Bible says somewhere that “the very memory” of the damned who have persistently rejected God “will be forgotten,” so no rejoicing over their plight.

    It also says somewhere about God himself being “a consuming fire” and also a mention of “the spirit returning to God who made it” after death. I sometimes wonder if Hell and Heaven might be the same place: the brilliant presence of God, which is a delight to those who love Him and want to be with Him, and a consuming agony for those who have hated Him all their lives, and continue to hate Him.

  742. @Caroline

    > in post-WW2-Poland they were 0.2% of the population and 60% of the members of the secret police

    False.

    —–
    Recent researchers are more reserved. Krystyna Kersten quotes from a memorandum of the Polish Party leader Bierut (November 21, 1945), which reports that at that time the entire secret police (UB) employed 28,000 people, of which 2,500 worked at the Ministry of Public Security (MBP). Of the remaining 25,600 employees, 67 (or 1.7 percent) were Jewish. Among the leading cadres of the secret service, which consisted of approximately 500 people, the share of Jews was substantially higher: 67 individuals or 13 percent of all staff… The Polish historian L.W. Gluchowski, who bases his figures on recent archival findings, reports that of the 447 “high ministry officials” within the MBP (in 1945), 131 were Jewish or more than 29 percent… In 1945, 18.7 percent of the MBP staff was Jewish, as were 50 percent of its leading officials.
    —–
    — Andre Gerrits, The Myth of Jewish Communism: A Historical Interpretation, p. 149.

    Clearly there was some overrepresentation, but “60% of the members of the secret police” overshoots the mark by a long way.

  743. @Caroline

    > What was the reason given why so many Jews “had to leave” Poland after WW2 for the US and Israel?

    Most of them had already left Poland with the help of the SS. One doesn’t need to accept any of the more dramatic claims about gassings by either diesel or gasoline exhaust in places like Treblinka in order to recognize that the vast majority of Polish Jews were drastically uprooted during the war. If one tosses out the story about gassings at the camps in the east, one still has mass-deportations in which people will have been transported far away out of the country while their belongings were confiscated. Any Jews who subsequently survived, regardless of whether or not they had been threatened with gassings, would have been forced to look for a new place of residence and would not have had a simple option for returning home.

  744. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    But my point is that Jews have come along and put their collective thumb down on one end of the scale — hard, and with increasing effect.

    Everyone — including all Jews that I know of — agree that Jews, on average, tend to lean towards the Left and that Jews, having, on average, higher verbal skills than non-Jews, tend to succeed at climbing into the parasitic verbalist overclass, the ruling elite.

    Everyone know this, most especially Jews.

    Back around 1970, I was chatting with a Jewish friend about how evil socialism was. Being a bright guy, he did not disagree. But he added that he personally, as a bright, ambitious, and hard-working fellow, would manage to succeed under any social or economics system, socialism, capitalism, or whatever.

    He was probably right.

    WASPs created the totalitarian society in which we live — the Deep State, the American Empire, the public school and higher-ed con games, the financial and monetary Ponzi scheme, and all the rest — and Jews have indeed learned how to thrive under that evil regime.

    But, as Sam Goldwyn and Louis B. Mayer and Gershwin and Irving Berlin and the Gimbels and numerous other Jews proved, Jews were also able to thrive through actual productive activities in a saner, more decent America.

    Jews are, let us say, adaptable.

    Colin also wrote:

    All one has to do is imagine an America that had never admitted Jews; then picture where we’d be. Economically, sociologically, and demographically — around 1960, give or take. There’d be two hundred million Americans, we’d be agreeing that blacks should be allowed to use public drinking fountains, and people would still be moaning about how factory workers made more than college professors. Technologically and scientifically, we’d be around 2000-2010.

    Already in 1960, we had a corrupt higher-ed system and a public-school system that was a joke (google “Why Johnny can’t read”). The US government was already wasting American lives and treasure trying to rule the world, and murdering people all over the planet.

    J. Edgar Hoover had files on anyone who mattered. The welfare state was growing and was headed towards long-term insolvency. The monetary and financial system was a Ponzi scheme.

    I remember 1960.

    Sure, we didn’t sexually mutilate children who were confused about their “gender” back then.

    Things have indeed gotten worse, but that was inevitable: the path the country was on in 1960 was clearly a disastrous path.

    You want to blame the Jews? Well, up until the early 1970s, the Irish-Americans were stalwart supporters of the Democratic Party: I still remember my Irish-American grandmother insisting that she voted for the Dems because they were “for the little guy” (I think Dad finally convinced her in ’72 that McGovern was not for people like her).

    Perhaps FDR could not have gotten through some of the worst aspects of the New Deal if not for Irish-American support. So, let’s blame the Irish! (Come to think of it, looking at my own family, I’m not so sure that my Old-Stock Anglo ancestors were all that wise to let in my Irish ancestors!)

    That way of thinking and arguing just muddies the waters — catastrophically so.

    Instead of focusing on disastrous policies and institutions, it diverts attention to specific ethnic groups that are, after all, only partially to blame for the disastrous policies and institutions.

    And it enables the ruling elite to focus on the bigotry of those who blame some specific ethnic group and, again, divert attention from the elite’s disastrous policies and institutions.

    This is exactly what the ruling elite wants: divide et impera.

    If Jew-Haters did not already exist, the ruling elite would need to invent them.

    I sincerely wonder how many of the alt-Right Jew-Haters are in fact agents provocateurs acting on behalf of and paid by the Deep State. Anyone who thinks I am reaching here needs to read up on COINTELPRO.

    Rurik, Truth Vigilante, and a number of the other Jew-Haters here walk, talk, and smell like Federal assets.

    Colin also wrote:

    This isn’t to say Jews are solely responsible for it all — but there’s a balance, and Jews are overwhelmingly clustered at one end of the beam, making it tip.

    This is an unpleasant fact, but it remains a fact nevertheless. You should face it.

    Oh, I do face it: various ethnic groups tend to lean in one direction or another politically.

    But, having done work for the US Intel Community myself *, I am also willing to face up to how the US Deep State actually operates.

    And, given how it actually operates, it is a reasonable guess that Rurik, Truth Vigilante, and a lot of their friends are Feds.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento
    ——–
    ^ Why should anyone trust me? They shouldn’t — they should in fact assume that I might be a Fed. They should, however, look at the evidence: isn’t everything that Rurik, TV, et al. do — the goofy conspiracy theories, the insistence on blaming Jews for all the misdeeds of the Deep State, the attempts to distract everyone from the actual crimes being committed by the US government, etc. — exactly what the Deep State wants? Really? And you don’t think they are Feds? Really? Have you read about COINTELPRO?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  745. @Truth Vigilante

    My goofy little buddy Truth Vigilante wrote to Ron Unz:

    But to the extent that they are elite and wealthy, is due to their SUBSERVIENCE TO ZOG.
    So, when they give their ‘opinions’ in public, how Mr Unz do you know for certain that they genuinely believe that? Do you know that they aren’t being bribed/intimidated into saying such things by their ZOG benefactors?

    Yeah, yeah!

    Did you know that Charlemagne was Jewish? (I’m actually descended from Charlemagne.)

    And Julius Caesar?

    And King Arthur?

    I’m not so sure about George Washington, though — probably just a Shabbos Goy, right?

    Is it true that you are really a Fed?

    Just askin’.

    Your friendly neighborhood Heroic Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  746. @IreneAthena

    IreneAthena wrote:

    Physisicist —WOOPS, too many “s’s” in that word. I blame the mental hisssssing sound invocation of that individual’s moniker evokes. I don’t believe I’ve ever had an exchange with him, but I’ve observed how nasty he is to others.

    I am quite religious (!) about adhering to the “Silver Rule”: do unto others as they do unto you.

    Good and hard.

    Tenfold.

    Evil little Michael Korn has been told to get lost by Ron Unz repeatedly. Mikey keeps promising to do so and keeps lying. He even brags about how he gets around Ron’s technical attempts to get rid of him.

    And he has been nasty to me and to others, also.

    I am pretty sure that I have not been nasty to anyone who did not richly deserve it — you have any counter-examples? For example, for many months “Truth Vigilante” has been spreading one lie after another about me — I think I am more than justified in treating a pathological liar like her with contempt.

    To be sure, I most assuredly do exult in exposing liars, con artists, and thugs for what they are. I revel in it.

    Always have, always will.

    And now you have had an encounter with me!

    By the way, I have always had a slight lisp — there are indeed way two many “s”‘ sounds in the word physicist! I’m also an engineer — no “s” sounds there!

    Take care.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  747. @Rurik

    ‘…was the idea of the Stab in the Back,

    just another anti-Semitic canard, by disgruntled Gentiles looking for a scapegoat?

    Or was there perhaps a shred of truth to it?’

    On the one hand, Jews were very prominent in the various post-war revolutionary movements in Germany. For example, I seem to recall that all six members of the ruling soviet in the (decidedly ephemeral) Bavarian Socialist Republic or whatever it was called were Jews.

    On the other hand and at a guess, a shred is about right. The original players in the war had fought themselves to exhaustion — and Germany was no exception. The Allies were the only players left with troops who were really willing to fight: the Americans, the British Dominion troops, and to some extent the British themselves. By the second half of 1918 Germany was going to lose no matter what the Jews did.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @Rurik
  748. @Truth Vigilante

    Our lovely little Fed Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    [Dave, addressing the sniveling coward Rurik] But you and the other Jew Haters here keep insisting that the Jews bear primary responsibility for lots of events when that is just not so.

    [The Fed] No gentile writes this way. Only a MALEVOLENT JEW takes personal offence when his tribe is criticised and instantly responds with a barrage of knee-jerk retaliations.

    Not a single Gentile on earth ever, ever objects to false and malevolent statements made about Jews?

    Not a single one? Ever?

    Okay, Fed, if you say so.

    The little Fed also wrote to me:

    NOT SO for the 9/11 False Flag, where ZOG are much more sensitive – because exposure of their orchestration of this egregious crime will bring about their demise.
    On that issue, you remain a chicken shit to the present day, being careful to repeat the official narrative word perfect – not even the slightest deviation from the official story.

    Yep.

    Because I actually am a physicist, and you and your friends have been spreading bizarrely psychotic stories about 9/11 — that the planes were really holograms, that the Twin Towers were taken out with nukes, that Newton’s Third Law prohibits the gravity-driven collapse that occured, etc. — that all disagree with basic principles of physics.

    All sane people know that you guys are psychos, mental cases to the man.

    It’s just that most people are too polite to say so.

    I’m not.

    I’m the little boy who exults in exclaiming in glee that the emperor is naked.

    But, after all, you know that, since you are a Fed, right?

    You may be a Fed, but I am getting a chuckle out of you. Bravo, Fed! Bravo — your performance is superb!

    Your friendly neighborhood Shabbos Goy,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  749. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Oh, I do face it: various ethnic groups tend to lean in one direction or another politically…’

    Indeed — and this echoes what is largely my point.

    It’s not that the predilections of Jews are especially or uniquely bad; we wouldn’t like an America dominated by Mormons any better, for example.

    It’s just that Jews are uniquely good at getting their way. What do Mormons get? Remarkably restrictive hours for liquor stores in the state of Utah is about all that comes to mind.

    And what do Jews get? Therein lies the problem.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  750. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    One of the Bavarian Soviet heads, Max Levien, was not Jewish (Levien is in fact a Dutch name and he seems to have been of Huguenot descent) but it was widely assumed he was. He escaped to Russia after the suppression of the Red Republic and was executed there in 1937.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Levien

    As for others, Eugen Leviné was Jewish and in fact born in Russia and pretty much an outsider to Bavaria – he appears to have been sent from Berlin to set up a KPD structure in Munich shortly after the KPD was established. (A refugee from Tsarist Russia, he had served in the German Army in WW1 as an interpreter in a POW camp – Germany held hundreds of thousands of Russian POWs during the war.) Others were from Munich’s radical intellectual counter-culture, which included a great many people of Jewish origin. It should be noted they were often at odds with Leviné. Leviné’s widow wrote some memoirs in which she was particularly scathing about one of them, Ernst Toller, later a distinguished writer (unlike Leviné, Toller was not sentenced to death afterwards).

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  751. @PhysicistDave

    And now you have had an encounter with me!

    That’s one bucket list item ticked off.
    You take care, too.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @MIchael Korn
  752. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Both the German Army and the Austro-Hungarian Army in WW1 had rabbis serving as military chaplains.

  753. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    An American song in Yiddish from WW1 which is definitely pro-Central Powers though the lyrics seem more hostile to Nicholas II than necessarily fond of Wilhelm and Franz Josef.

  754. @IreneAthena

    I probably should not have wished DM into hell. It’s a pity on poor satan to have him as a neighbor!

    Pastor Peter Hyatt in Denver shares your perspective on hell:
    https://relentless-love.org/sermons-scripture-reference/

    Dave is very brilliant. Far more than the usual stable of atheistic spokesmen like Dawkins, Harris, Dennet. I’d say even more than Christopher Hitchens.

    Dave eviscerates my faith and my character to the point where I’ve considered suicide a number of times. He’s that effective.

    All I can say in response is to invite him to look at these links I shared with another cynic Fran Taubman:
    https://www.unz.com/runz/prof-john-beaty-and-the-true-origin-of-the-jews/?showcomments#comment-6400159

    And I really do intend to stay away from this site. There is no genuine human kindness here. Just monstrous egos vying for attention.

    Shalom Salaam Peace Pax Pacem Mir Irini Frieden

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  755. @IreneAthena

    Another superb set of outreach documents, by a German Messianic scholar:
    http://www.messianicgoodnews.org/author/haraldfolsch/

    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  756. @MIchael Korn

    Thanks, MevaMichael KornaShir! I’m sure I’ll enjoy that site, as well as the ones you referred to in your other comment (as well as one you shared in the past that featured Yiddish-humor-rich videos– you should go there to cheer yourself up!) As far as your other comment: you take that time off, and come back to Unz when you’re good and ready. You enjoy a good argument, and contribute much, but when the psychic vampirism of others’ trolling (and I sting for you every time I hear your head-space challenges used as a club against you) depletes your resources to the point where overwhelming emotion is trumping your significant intellect and your good judgment, it’s time for a break.

    Some people say things online that they never would IRL. It is not unlikely that Fizzizist Dave, if he were to hear from, say, that uncle of yours with whom he is acquainted, that your untimely death [trigger warning] was a direct result of something he said to you online, he would be very sorry. A lot of people just don’t realize how many people there are — especially ones with significantly heavy crosses to bear, such as the one you have been given — for whom faith is maybe just as important as medicine. A hallmark of depression is anhedonia– including the ability to draw comfort from one’s faith. I’m 100% in compos-mentis (atm, lol) Mevashir: there is nothing that anyone has said in an unz article or comment that shakes my faith in this belief: You are loved and valued by God. Now go watch those funny videos and invite Jesus to join you.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  757. @Michael Korn

    The evil, lying little thug Michael Korn wrote to IreneAthena:

    I probably should not have wished DM into hell. It’s a pity on poor satan to have him as a neighbor!

    And just as I predicted, you lied — again! — in saying that you were — finally! — leaving this site.

    Because you are a lying little thug who worships the Prince of Lies — Jesus of Nazareth.

    The little liar also wrote:

    Dave eviscerates my faith and my character to the point where I’ve considered suicide a number of times. He’s that effective.

    I actually have not had that much to say about your fake “faith.”

    You’re lying again.

    But it is certainly is true that — according to the New Testament itself! — Jesus believed that the end of the world was imminent.

    I quoted Matthew 24 above proving that Jesus was a psychotic nutjob. Here is another example from Mark 9:

    And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. [emphasis added]

    But of course everyone he was speaking to did indeed “taste of death” without seeing “the kingdom of God come with power.”

    An apocalyptic nutjob.

    But Jesus was far, far more evil than that.

    Jesus made very, very clear that he worshiped the evil little genocidal Jewish godling YHWH of the Hebrew Bible (AKA the Old Testament), the evil godling who supposedly ordered the mass murder of the Amalekites and so many other peoples of Palestine (see pretty much the whole of the book of Joshua).

    I won’t say the Romans were right to execute this insane little monster — I support freedom of religion even for evil psychopaths like Jesus of Nazareth. But it was sort of karma, wasn’t it? An evil monster who defended an evil genocidal godling and who threatened the entire human race with eternal torment in Hell got a a little taste of his own medicine, thanks to Pontius Pilate, now didn’t he?

    Karma indeed.

    Think upon the evil in which you are enmeshed, you lying little thug.

    Think upon how evil the fake little psychotic would-be “Messiah” was whom you worship.

    Repent of the evil. Leave the darkness behind and come out into the light, the light of truth and sanity.

    You are living in an evil delusion, but you can be helped. Let your own family help you — you have rejected them but they will take you back if you crawl back to them and repent.

    Repent of the evil that you have embraced and come back to your family and to the majority of the human race.

    Repent while you still have time.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  758. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘…Oh, I do face it: various ethnic groups tend to lean in one direction or another politically…’

    [Colin] Indeed — and this echoes what is largely my point.

    It’s not that the predilections of Jews are especially or uniquely bad; we wouldn’t like an America dominated by Mormons any better, for example.

    It’s just that Jews are uniquely good at getting their way. What do Mormons get? Remarkably restrictive hours for liquor stores in the state of Utah is about all that comes to mind.

    And what do Jews get? Therein lies the problem.

    Well… as far as I can tell, we largely agree on the actual facts of the current situation:

    The current US regime is pursuing some evil and disastrous policies, such as sexually mutilating children who are confused about their “gender,” and, while Jews did not create the institutions and political structures responsible for these evil policies, most Jews today are supporters of and many are apparatchiks within these institutions and political structures. Just as many Irish-Americans were supporters of and apparatchiks within the New Deal.

    So what?

    Those facts are, of course, of interest to pollsters and political scientists and historians. I sometimes think I myself should have become a pollster: I do indeed find such facts interesting.

    But aren’t those facts largely irrelevant? The New Deal was evil simply because the policies of the New Deal were evil, not because most Irish-Americans happened to support those evil policies. Denouncing Irish-Americans for those evil policies would have been not simply a waste of time but actually counter-productive: it would have given the impression that critics of the New Deal were simply bigots who hated Irish-Americans, rather than loyal Americans who saw that the New Deal policies were themselves evil.

    There was, after all, no possibility of kicking Irish-Americans out of the country or excluding them from participating in American life!

    Isn’t the same true of the Jews today?

    While it is of academic interest that many Jews support the evil policies of the current regime and quite a few actually hold positions in that regime, shouldn’t the real point be to expose how and why the policies of the current regime are evil?

    If all of the country’s Jews flipped sides, if all American Jews simply disappeared, wouldn’t those evil policies still be evil?

    Focusing on the Jews instead of the evil policies themselves simply leads decent people to believe that any critics of the current evil regime are just bigots who are motivated not by an honest commitment to justice and liberty but who are rather motivated by an irrational bigotry against the Jews.

    They are simply playing into the hands of the regime.

    Which is why I am quite, quite certain that a number of the prominent, outspoken Jew-Haters, people like Rurik and Truth Vigilante, are indeed agents provocateurs, active assets of the Deep State.

    Again, learn about COINTELPRO.

    Am I absolutely certain that Rurik and Truth Vigilante specifically are Feds?

    Well… how sure are you that Ray Epps is a Fed?

    If it walks like a Fed and talks like a Fed and smells like a Fed…

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Agree: Mark G.
  759. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Are you joking???

    That is a product of the Nation of Islam. I ran into a group of them a couple decades ago: they are very, very, very strange people. Not exactly a reputable historical source.’

    Isaac Newton was a very, very strange person — and not at all a nice one. However, we don’t dismiss his scientific and mathematical accomplishments on that score.

    I make no bones about my low opinion of blacks in general. Nevertheless, from the passing glances I’ve taken at them, the historical writings of the Nation of Islam don’t appear to be complete drivel.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  760. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Isn’t the same true of the Jews today?…’

    You have a point — but at the same time, most of those catastrophic policies would never have come to be implemented absent the grossly disproportionate influence of Jews. I find the fact just as unpalatable as you presumably do — but somehow, some way, the aggregate ability of Jews to influence policy in this country has to be reduced.

    You compare the Jews to the Irish. Well, the Irish have had a perceptible influence on this country, and I’m not convinced it’s been entirely to the good. But whatever…their weight has been at least vaguely proportionate to their numbers. They apparently feel or felt at least as passionately about Ireland as the Jews do about Israel — and with considerably more right! After all, no one denies that Ireland is indeed Irish.

    Yet have they been able to force us into war on Ireland’s behalf — like say, to restore the six counties? Have they made alliance between us and Britain impossible? No — their influence is about what it should be.

    Blacks aside, I don’t begrudge anyone that. You can go ahead and have your say — however much I may disagree. Irish, Mormons, Mennonites, whoever. Jews would be included in that as well — to an extent appropriate to the size of the community.

    With others, we’ve more or less been able to let them have at it. Mormons can agitate for restrictions on bars and a prohibition on Gay Marriage. No on one, yes on two — but in general, push for whatever you want.

    We can’t continue to extend that privilege to Jews. They’re too good at their job, and the costs have become intolerable. To ignore this state of affairs is to allow it to continue. If a pipe is broken in the basement, it won’t do any good to ignore the pipe and just keep mopping up the water.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  761. @PhysicistDave

    Physicist Dovid writes:

    if all American Jews simply disappeared, wouldn’t those evil policies still be evil?

    Answer: If the Jews disappeared, the bulk of those evil policies (and certainly the most egregious among them), WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ENACTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
    In addition:

    1) JFK/RFK/JFK Jr would not have been murdered

    2) There would have been no 9/11 False Flag, no 7/7 London Underground bombing (Britain’s 9/11), no 2002 Bali Bombing (Australia’s 9/11 – seeing as Aussie tourists were disproportionately murdered), no 2004 Madrid Train bombing (Spain’s 9/11), no Anthropogenic Global warming hoax, no Holohoax, no Covid Psyop and accompanying Mass Cull of humanity from the clot shots, no Ukraine proxy war and much, MUCH more.

    Simply put, the world would be a far better place.
    Of course, it’s not rank and file Jews that are responsible. It’s just a sliver of Jewry, those constituents of the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel and their minions that are responsible for these things. These Malevolent and depraved Talmudic Jews are giving the remainder of Jewry a bad name.

    Then we come to Jews like you Dovid, what I call the ‘Second Tier of Jewry’, who may not actually be complicit in perpetrating these crimes, but because you engage in knee-jerk reflexive apologia every time someone accuses your Jewish brethren, you can’t help yourself by AIDING and ABETTING these miscreants.

    You have no hesitation in telling the most scurrilous LIES on behalf of your (((tribe))), in keeping with the Talmudic teachings which state: ‘It’s not a lie if you tell it to the goyim’.
    And to cap it off, you say some of the nastiest things to our good friend Mevashir.
    You are a nasty little man indeed.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • LOL: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  762. ‘…Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the Israeli military will go ahead with its planned ground offensive, insisting an evacuation plan is being prepared.’

    No doubt. Said evacuation plans always boil down to ‘you go where we say and we shoot you as you do so.’

    The showers were more methodical, but I suppose not as much fun.

    Do people realize this exercise in applied evil is going to continue for exactly so long as we tolerate it? It’s long been clear that the rest of the civilized world has to agree what the desired solution is and impose it on Israel? Not talk about it, impose it.

    Happily, we already did agree on that solution. The UN set forth the conditions in the 1947 Partition Declaration, and Israel agreed to comply with them — but never did.

    Okay, great. So let’s bring Israel into compliance. In 1919, the victorious Allies imposed the Versailles Treaty on Germany — and left the blockade in place until she complied with the terms.

    We can easily do the same to Israel. Pull the plug and leave it pulled until she is in full compliance. It really won’t be hard at all.

  763. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    That is a product of the Nation of Islam. I ran into a group of them a couple decades ago: they are very, very, very strange people. Not exactly a reputable historical source.

    Sure, the Nation of Islam has all sorts of odd religious beliefs. But then again, so do the Mormons and most other religious sects, large or small.

    Meanwhile, the NOI Research Group has published works of quite solid historical scholarship, some of which are absolutely outstanding. Here’s a passage from one of my 2018 articles that you might want to take a look at:

    Mainstream publishers may often reject books that too sharply conflict with reigning dogma and sales of such works are unlikely to justify the extensive research required to produce the manuscript. Furthermore, both authors and publishers may face widespread vilification from a hostile media for taking such positions. For these reasons, those who publish such controversial material will often be acting from deep ideological motives rather than merely seeking professional advancement or monetary gain. As an example, it took a zealous Trotskyite leftist such as Lenni Brenner to brave the risk of ferocious attacks and invest the time and effort to produce his remarkable study of the crucial Nazi-Zionist partnership of the 1930s. And for similar reasons, we should not be totally surprised that the leading book arguing for the guilt of Leo Frank appeared as a volume in the series on the pernicious aspects of Jewish-Black historical relations produced by Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam (NOI), nor that the text lacked any identified author.

    Anonymous works published by heavily-demonized religious-political movements naturally engender considerable caution, but once I began reading the 500 pages of The Leo Frank Case: The Lynching of a Guilty Man I was tremendously impressed by the quality of the historical analysis. I think I have only very rarely encountered a research monograph on a controversial historical event that provided such an enormous wealth of carefully-argued analysis backed by such copious evidence. The authors seemed to display complete mastery of the major secondary literature of the last one hundred years while drawing very heavily upon the various primary sources, including court records, personal correspondence, and contemporaneous publications, with the overwhelming majority of the 1200 footnotes referencing newspaper and magazine articles of that era. The case they made for Frank’s guilt seemed absolutely overwhelming.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/#the-leo-frank-case-and-the-creation-of-the-adl

    • Thanks: Rurik
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  764. Fairly
    I wound up scanning through a hundred or so Twitter posts about the Super Bowl (these things happen when I’ve drunk too much).

    I still have no idea who won the game.

  765. @Colin Wright

    Nevertheless, from the passing glances I’ve taken at them, the historical writings of the Nation of Islam don’t appear to be complete drivel.

    CW, I’ve given you a hard time of late for some misinformed commentary, but credit to you here. The Nation of Islam (NOI) deserves every accolade for having the GUTS to call out ZOG in the countless instances where the latter have behaved criminally.

    The video below titled ‘Richard Gage Presentation – Nation of Islam: “9/11: What really happened and why?”, hosted by the Nation of Islam, is just one example of the stellar work they’ve done over the years:

    Richard Gage, then head of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, backed up by many thousands of the best professionals in their respective fields, furnishes all the proof one needs to ascertain that the WTC towers and Bldg 7 were brought down in a controlled demolition on the day of 9/11.

    So UR readers, are you going to believe a snivelling dog in the employ of ZOG, like the pretend Physicist Dovid Miller?
    Or are you going to believe a deluge of well credentialled and objective professionals of unimpeachable integrity?

    • Replies: @Anon
  766. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    You have a point — but at the same time, most of those catastrophic policies would never have come to be implemented absent the grossly disproportionate influence of Jews.

    Well… I think here is a point on which we have a disagreement on both matters of fact and of value.

    Jews did not create the corrupt public-school system. It goes back at least to the New England Unitarian Horace Mann.

    Jews did not create the drive for US hegemony. That goes back at least to Teddy Roosevelt, and the crucial figure was probably that mad Presbyterian Woodrow Wilson.

    Jews did not destroy the compact of the states and replace it with a consolidated national government. The biggest villain here was, I suppose, the evil Abe Lincoln, though there is lots of blame to go around. (Again, for the record: no, I am not a neo-Confederate or a defender of the Slavocracy — my sympathies lie rather with the radical abolitionists. Nonetheless, the brutality of Mr. Lincoln’s war did radically alter the structure of American government.)

    Jews did not create the FBI or the other major organs of the Deep State. Or the income tax. Or Social Security. Or the medical cartel. And on and on.

    The deep evils in our society just were not, as a matter of fact, created by the Jews.

    I get the feeling, based on your earlier remark, that you think the America of 1960 was pretty swell.

    It just wasn’t — and the evils then were not due to the Jews.

    I remember in grade school in the 1959-60 school year having a nuclear-bomb drill at school. Made necessary by the drive for world hegemony begun by TR, Wilson, et al. At the same time, I remember sitting through mindlessly pointless classes in grade school, aimed at “socializing” us rather than educating us — thank you, (non-Jewish) “educators” like John Dewey.

    I want to tear out by the roots all of those evil institutions and social structures going back to the Progressive movement — the public schools, the colleges and universities, the Deep State, the drive for world hegemony, and all the rest.

    You seem not to want that. You give the impression that you merely want to restore all of that to the state it was in back in 1960.

    None of the evils that I want to destroy was originated by the Jews. The Jews really, truly were Johnny-come-latelies: they latched on to and learned to succeed in evil institutions created by White Gentiles.

    I want to destroy those evil White Gentile institutions.

    You seem not to want to.

    Colin also wrote:

    We can’t continue to extend that privilege to Jews. They’re too good at their job, and the costs have become intolerable. To ignore this state of affairs is to allow it to continue. If a pipe is broken in the basement, it won’t do any good to ignore the pipe and just keep mopping up the water.

    And exactly how do you propose to do that?

    You can’t, any more than opponents of the New Deal could have expelled the Irish-Americans.

    The only things you accomplish by proposing to somehow disempower the Jews is:

    1) You distract people’s attention from the real issue, the actual disastrous policies, and instead inflame ethnic hatreds.

    2) You guarantee that decent people will simply dismiss you as a bigot.

    You play into the hands of the ruling elite.

    This is exactly what they want: divide et impera.

    And, if you somehow did succeed in completely disempowering the Jews, it would make no significant difference: we’d still be left with the mindless public schools, the Ponzi scheme called Social Security, the drive by the US government for world hegemony, the Deep State, and all of the other evil things we face that were not created by the Jews.

    If you really want to focus on going after some particular group of human beings it actually is true that an awful lot of the evil originated from the Northeast — New England and New York. More fruitful to go for expelling the Northeast from the Union than going after the Jews!

    Of course, that would still miss the point: it would still distract attention from the need to root out the source of the evil by repealing the twentieth century, by annihilating everything the Progressive movement did to America early in the twentieth century.

    To focus on anything other than undoing the Progressive movement is to play into the hands of the parasitic verbalist overclass, the ruling elite that is largely White Gentiles.

    We have met the enemy, Colin, and they are evil people in our own ethnic group.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  767. @PhysicistDave

    Dovid Miller writes:

    We have met the enemy, Colin, and they are evil people in our own ethnic group.

    Of course you can say that with surety – seeing as you’re one of the (((tribe))).
    But don’t conflate your ethnic group with ours. They are worlds apart.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  768. @Truth Vigilante

    Our neighborhood Fed Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    And to cap it off, you say some of the nastiest things to our good friend Mevashir.

    Awwww… do you think I am hurting little Mikey’s feelings?

    Little Mikey (“Mevashir”) is an evil little thug.

    Ron has repeatedly asked Mikey to leave, and Mikey has repeatedly promised to leave, but the little jerk keeps coming back. Indeed, Mikey brags about how he manages to get around Ron’s attempts to limit Mikey’s nasty little posts.

    But, more than anything, Mikey posted the following:

    The problem for you and all your atheist buddies is that death will not be the end of your misery but only the beginning of it. That’s because you will be raised from the dead and forced to make a most awkward embarrassing and uncomfortable account of your life to our Creator. And then you will spend eternity in the Lake of fire. At least you’ll be good for something as we enjoy watching you suffer for your crimes. [emphasis added]

    I’ve known thousands of Christians in the real world. Several have told me that as a non-Christian I was in danger of going to Hell.

    But not a single one of them has told me that he will “enjoy” seeing me tortured in Hell!

    Have you known anyone who has said that to you? Aside from evil little Mikey?

    You’re not a Christian yourself, TV, are you? Do you realize that Mikey looks forward to seeing you tortured for all eternity in Hell? Does it occur to you that just maybe this means that there is something more than a wee bit wrong with Mikey, that in fact he is a psychopathic monster?

    Just maybe?

    But, okay, let’s get real: you’re a Fed, aren’t you, little buddy?

    You’re posting all your nonsense here about “the Jews” and the 9/11 fantasies that you peddle to distract attention from the real crimes the US regime is committing, aren’t you? Real crimes like sexually mutilating children who are confused about their “gender,” fueling the proxy wars in Ukraine and Palestine, jailing thousands of innocent protesters, and all the rest.

    You’re a Fed. Any normal, sane person following your comments knows you are a Fed.

    Come clean, Fed.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Anon
  769. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    CW, I’ve given you a hard time of late for some misinformed commentary, but credit to you here. The Nation of Islam (NOI) deserves every accolade for having the GUTS to call out ZOG in the countless instances where the latter have behaved criminally.

    Very well stated. NOI research is impeccable. Also their communities are not at all typical of American schwarzes. Watch videos of their services in Mosque Maryam and you will see well dressed, polite people, none of them obese, led by an 80+ yo minister who promotes healthy diets skepticism of big pharma and looks much younger than his age:

    https://v1.noi.org/national_center.htm

    FizzyCyst Davie is a lying dog and all of you who call him out are to be commended!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYAX7OcQ5iE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRR6UsTtROk

    Screen shot of typical well-dressed respectful and healthy looking congregation:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/14Cl_EWZKRP1NdzV638g5FXFL9EF-W8hO/view?usp=sharing

  770. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    You’re in no danger of going to hell FizzyCyst. Satan himself has requested a special dispensation from Father God Almighty to spare him from the shame and pain of having to share space with you in his unholy eternal hottub.

    Instead your body will be regularly decomposed to its small particle units and used for the fusion processes that power hellfire. Then reconstituted and smoldered all over again:

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/953573/jewish/Tituss-Death.htm
    Titus’s Death

    Our Sages tell us: When Titus was traveling back to Rome on a ship with the Jewish captives and the vessels of the Holy Temple, a storm at sea threatened to drown him. He said: “It seems that the G‑d of these people only has power over water. When Pharaoh came, He drowned him in water. When Sisera came, He drowned him in water. Now He is about to drown me in water. If He wants to show His strength, let Him come onto dry land and fight with me there!”

    A Divine voice came forth and said to him: “Wicked one, the son of a wicked one, descendant of Esau the wicked, I have an insignificant creature in My world called a gnat. Come ashore and do battle with it!” Titus went ashore and a gnat came and entered his nostril, and pecked at his brain for seven years.

    One day, Titus was walking past a blacksmith’s shop. The gnat heard the noise of the sledgehammer and became silent. Titus said: “There is a remedy!” Every day they brought a blacksmith and he hammered in Titus’ presence. To a gentile blacksmith he would give a handsome stipend, but to a Jew he would say: “It is sufficient that you see your enemy suffering!”

    For thirty days they brought smiths to hammer in Titus’ presence. Then the gnat adjusted to the noise of the hammer, and continued pecking at Titus’ brain even when the hammers were struck.

    Rabbi Pinchas ben Arova said: “I was with the great men of Rome at the time when Titus died. They examined his brain and what they found in it was the size of a small bird!”

    As Titus lay dying, he instructed his servants: “Burn me and scatter my ashes over the seven seas so that the G‑d of the Jews cannot find me and bring me to judgment.”

    https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/14412-titus
    Rabbinical Legends.
    The Jews hated Titus on account of his share in the destruction of the Temple; and the Rabbis accordingly termed him “Titus the miscreant,” thus contrasting sharply with the statements of the classical writers, who regarded him as an ornament of the human race. It may be proved, however, that he was anything but upright while he was crown prince; indeed, he was cruel, licentious, and ambitious, and was even suspected of having sought to poison his father. Only during the latter part of his reign did he display praiseworthy qualities. A significant saying of frequent recurrence in rabbinic sources is to the effect that he was honored in Rome as the conqueror of the barbarians (υικητὴς βαρβάρων; Gen. R. x.; Lev. R. xxii. 3; Lam. R., Introduction, No. 23, etc.), thus showing that the Jews were regarded as an inferior and barbarous nation. All the other accounts of Titus in rabbinical literature are purely legendary, and their utter unreliability is shown by the fact that he is called the nephew instead of the son of Vespasian, a view which was repeatedin medieval chronicles (Neubauer, “M. J. C.” i. 50, 70). In the Holy of Holies, moreover, he was said to have pierced the veil of the Ark, to have had intercourse with two courtezans (a reminiscence of his relations with Berenice), and to have defiled the Torah (ib.; Giṭ. 56b); in short, to have blasphemed God. That he packed the sacred vessels in a basket and took them on board his ship was also stated in rabbinical tradition. As he stepped from his bath—so runs a legend—a drink was handed to him, when suddenly a gnat () stung him in the nose, and thus caused his death (Ab. R. N., Recension B, vii.; it is noteworthy that this form of retribution also figures in Arabic legends, which often confuse Titus with Nebuchadnezzar, who likewise destroyed the Temple; “R. E. J.” lxix. 212). This has been interpreted as implying that Titus became melancholy and insane in his declining years (Hamburger, “R. B. T.” s.v.); but such an explanation seems inadmissible. Despite the Jewish hatred of Titus, many Jews as well as Christians have borne his name (in the New Testament, Titus i. 4; Gal. ii. 3; II Cor. ii. 13, and elsewhere; for the Jews, see Krauss, “Lehnwörter,” ii. 262); and in later times four prominent Jewish families of Italy have traced their descent from prisoners taken by him (see Rome).

    The medieval Jews invented numerous legends concerning Titus; thus, according to “Yosippon” and Benjamin of Tudela, the Roman consuls (i.e., senators) blamed him for taking three years instead of two to conquer Jerusalem. Benjamin claims also to have seen the supposed palace of Titus at Rome; and, according to Abraham ibn Daud (“Sefer ha-Ḳabbalah),” ed. Prague, 1795, p. 40b), Titus put to death the high priest Ishmael b. Elisha and R. Simeon b. Gamaliel, although only the latter was actually executed. The names of hosts of other patriots and martyrs who lost their lives through Titus are unknown.

    I include these rabbinical legends because we know you’re a lying Jew-apologist and therefore you deserve the fate they describe for the enemies of God.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
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    , @PhysicistDave
  771. Anon[124] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I don’t agree with MK’s depiction of hell or his desire that our fearless truth speaker PhyDo will end up suffering there for eternity. However the idea that people in heaven might derive pleasure witnessing the torment of those in hell (for those who believe in that concept) is not far-fetched. Why do relatives of murder victims witness the killer’s execution in American prisons — either via gas chamber or lethal injection? Isn’t it the epitome of ghoulishness having an audience behind glass watching a man being executed?! The point is people do derive pleasure and satisfaction from witnessing retribution and vengeance. It’s part of our nature in this world and there’s no reason to assume that it might not be present in the world of eternity.

    As the church joke goes:
    “‘VENGEANCE IS MINE SAYETH THE LORD.’ BUT PLEASE SEND ME!”

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    , @PhysicistDave
  772. Anon[260] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    You don’t need to be reticent or apologetic. The concept of vengeance and eternal damnation is stated explicitly in both the Old and New Testament:

    REVELATION CHAPTER SIX

    https://biblehub.com/niv/revelation/6.htm
    9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” 11Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, e were killed just as they had been.

    12I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

    15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us f from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their g wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”

    DANIEL CHAPTER TWELVE

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%2012&version=NIV

    The End Times
    12 “At that time Michael,(A) the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress(B) such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book(C)—will be delivered.(D) 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake:(E) some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.(F) 3 Those who are wise[a](G) will shine(H) like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness,(I) like the stars for ever and ever.(J) 4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal(K) the words of the scroll until the time of the end.(L) Many will go here and there(M) to increase knowledge.”

  773. @Anon

    ‘Very well stated. NOI research is impeccable. Also their communities are not at all typical of American schwarzes. Watch videos of their services in Mosque Maryam and you will see well dressed, polite people, none of them obese, led by an 80+ yo minister who promotes healthy diets skepticism of big pharma and looks much younger than his age…’

    Don’t get carried away. Black Muslims seem to have been pretty heavily involved in the ‘Zebra’ killings of white people in the Seventies. Alden has posted about this.

    They’re alright — in a sense. At least one can respect them. It’s not like most blacks, where the response ranges from amusement to contempt.

  774. @Anon

    You’re absolutely right my friend. I have great admiration for NOI’s Louis Farrakhan and have observed that those who constantly smear and denigrate him (like Dovid Miller), are minions of ZOG.

    BTW, I quite like your new and improved pseudonym for Dovid Miller of FizzyCyst, and if you don’t mind, I’d like to use it henceforth.
    After all, a cyst is described as:
    ‘A pouch or sac without opening, usually membranous and containing morbid matter’, ….

    ….. and, as those who have crossed paths with him well know, this describes Dovid to a tee.

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  775. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…We have met the enemy, Colin, and they are evil people in our own ethnic group.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento’

    And I would say that you have had the enemy identified to you — but it’s unpleasant to accept that particular truth.

    So you don’t. You keep evading it, or changing the subject. Dave doesn’t want to say, ‘I am an antisemite.’ Well, that’s all understandable and shit — but we’re never going to get anywhere that way.

    The basement is flooding because there’s a busted pipe gushing water. It’s right over there.

    See it? If you simply won’t see it, progress becomes impossible. Getting more towels won’t help.

  776. @Ron Unz

    ‘Sure, the Nation of Islam has all sorts of odd religious beliefs. But then again, so do the Mormons and most other religious sects, large or small.’

    Yes — but the Mormon Church hasn’t been implicated in the random murders of anything up to several hundred non-Mormons. The equivalent can’t be said for the Nation of Islam.

    Since at least 1894, the Mormons have assiduously played nice. In fact, in the dealings I have had with them, they adhere to a kind of scrupulous political correctness — albeit with a right-wing tinge.

    They almost put me to sleep thinking about them…which is okay. Pending developments, we can figure on them playing by Queensbury Rules.

    As opposed to, say, driving around and shooting white people.

    The point applies to most religious sects. They can be mad as hatters — but they understand. You don’t step on my toes and I won’t step on yours.

    I don’t want to go off on a crusade to ban the Nation of Islam. But let’s not pretend they’re just Jehovah’s Witnesses in blackface or something. They’re not our friends.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  777. Ron Unz says:
    @Colin Wright

    Sure, the Nation of Islam has all sorts of odd religious beliefs. But then again, so do the Mormons and most other religious sects, large or small.’

    Yes — but the Mormon Church hasn’t been implicated in the random murders of anything up to several hundred non-Mormons. The equivalent can’t be said for the Nation of Islam.

    Sure, back in the early 1970s (rogue?) elements of the Nation of Islam randomly murdered up to 200 whites in California, and the crimes were almost entirely covered up by both the media and academics at the time and since then. I told the shocking story in a 2016 article:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-kkk-and-mass-racial-killings/

    However, as far as I know, the NOI people haven’t been murdering people for nearly a half-century. And don’t forget that the early Mormons also murdered many dozens or even hundreds of non-Mormons until they settled down a little. I think it’s not so very uncommon for religious sects in their early days to murder outsiders. Some of the stories of the Anabaptists in Germany are pretty horrifying.

  778. Chebyshev says:
    @Ron Unz

    However, as far as I know, the NOI people haven’t been murdering people for nearly a half-century. And don’t forget that the early Mormons also murdered many dozens or even hundreds of non-Mormons until they settled down a little. I think it’s not so very uncommon for religious sects in their early days to murder outsiders.

    Few sects produce excellent historical works. The Nation of Islam must have especially good scholars – they were the ones who produced the book explaining the true details of the Frank case even though Black Muslims are greatly outnumbered by Mormons, Baptists, and the other Protestant denominations.

  779. @Anon

    Anon[124] wrote to Anon:

    I don’t agree with MK’s depiction of hell or his desire that our fearless truth speaker PhyDo will end up suffering there for eternity. However the idea that people in heaven might derive pleasure witnessing the torment of those in hell (for those who believe in that concept) is not far-fetched. Why do relatives of murder victims witness the killer’s execution in American prisons — either via gas chamber or lethal injection?

    Crazy little Mikey said very clearly that he would “enjoy” seeing innocent people suffer in Hell. The key point here is “innocent”: Mikey does not believe I have committed any crimes. He knows I am innocent.

    Mikey is just indisputably a psychopath.

    Mikey simply wants to enjoy seeing me suffering because I have told the truth about his crack-pot religion: i.e., that the evidence proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that Jesus of Nazareth was seriously deranged.

    Furthermore, I have not heard any member of victims’ families say that they “enjoy” seeing the murderer suffer. What they want is justice. In fact, our means of execution try to minimize the suffering of the criminal who is executed.

    Anon also wrote:

    Isn’t it the epitome of ghoulishness having an audience behind glass watching a man being executed?

    Well, yeah, I myself think it is ghoulish. One of the reasons I oppose capital punishment and prefer life imprisonment.

    But, again, while I do not think it is good to “enjoy” seeing even an evil murderer endure suffering — and our prison system does try to discourage that — what Mikey was talking about was Mikey enjoying the suffering of people simply because they have the good sense not to accept his crack-pot religion.

    Mikey has said, again and again, that he is mentally ill, estranged from his very accomplished family, etc., which no doubt partially explains his sociopathic behavior.

    But it does not excuse it.

    Mikey is simply evil.

  780. @Anon

    Anon[119] wrote to me:

    You’re in no danger of going to hell FizzyCyst. Satan himself has requested a special dispensation from Father God Almighty to spare him from the shame and pain of having to share space with you in his unholy eternal hottub.

    Instead your body will be regularly decomposed to its small particle units and used for the fusion processes that power hellfire. Then reconstituted and smoldered all over again:

    Hey, I like it — eternal life by providing the energy source for Hell!

    Just between you and me, if Hell actually were real, that is where I would want to be — think about it, all of the smart and fun people are in Hell: from Darwin and Einstein and Feynman and Hawking to George Carlin, John Lennon, and Lenny Bruce!

    Hence the words to the famous song:

    Hellward bound
    I wish I was
    Hellward bound
    Hell where my thought’s escapin’
    Hell where my music’s playin’
    Hell where my love lies waitin’
    Silently for me

    Think about it — Heaven has Jerry Falwell, John Calvin, Jonathan Edwards, Billy Graham, et al.

    I mean — Jerry Falwell vs. George Carlin?

    Like, who would you want to spend eternity with? Really?

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  781. @Truth Vigilante

    Our little Fed Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    [Dave] We have met the enemy, Colin, and they are evil people in our own ethnic group.

    [The Fed] Of course you can say that with surety – seeing as you’re one of the (((tribe))).

    Nope, I am not a Navajo or Apache or, indeed, a member of any Amerindian tribe.

    Though I am technically a Native American, since I am an American and I am a native.

    The Fed also wrote:

    But don’t conflate your ethnic group with ours. They are worlds apart.

    I did not say I was of your ethnic group! I said i was of the same ethnic groups as Colin Wright: his name is English, so I assume he is of West European Gentile descent, just as I am (I’m mainly of English, Irish, and German descent).

    Of course, pretty much all Western Europeans would have some Jewish ancestors if you tracked it back far enough. You too, if you are of Western European descent: have you had one of those DNA tests to see what fraction of your ancestry is Jewish? Time for a little surprise: time to embrace your Inner Jew, little fellow!

    Of course, you claim to be from Down Under, so maybe you are purebred Abo?

    Eh, Fed?

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  782. @PhysicistDave

    Fizzy-Cyst Dovid writes:

    I said i was of the same ethnic groups as Colin Wright: his name is English ….. just as I am (I’m mainly of English, Irish, and German descent).

    Sure you are Dovid.

    Just like you, Chuck Schumer, Jonathan Greenblatt and Yuval Harari are all lovely Anglo-Celtic lads that mean no harm to anyone.
    Meanwhile UR readers, have you noticed the change of tactics from Dovid Miller?
    His previous mode of distortion, deflection and deceit was gaining no traction. Dovid had been flailing about rudderless after a series of damaging blows had landed, whereby he’d been exposed as a sayan working on behalf of his Talmudic comrades.
    He was cornered like the rat he is and, as rats do in those situations, they go into offensive mode.
    He’s started levelling accusations that I’m a Fed (and Rurik too).

    Now I’m aware that the Feds infiltrated the Jan 6 protesters and encouraged them to break into the Capitol building – many of us are familiar with the Ray Epps incident.
    But I wasn’t aware that a single Fed ever came out and said that the two WTC towers and Building 7 were brought down in controlled demolitions on 9/11, that the lone gunman theory of the JFK coup d’etat was B.S (several teams of hitmen were present in Dealey Plaza that day), that RFK was not killed by Sirhan Sirhan (but by CIA asset and security guard Thane Eugene Cesar), that the Covid debacle was a psyop designed to get the gullible to take the toxic clot shots, thus enabling a mass cull of humanity.
    Most importantly, I’m not aware that a single Fed has stated that all of these egregious crimes were committed by ZOG.

    I must be the first Fed to have ever said these things that are extremely damaging to the ZOG controlled establishment.
    But hold on for a second, aren’t the Feds supposed to COVER for the crimes of the establishment? (As opposed to exposing their orchestration of said crimes).
    Hmmm, I guess I’m not all that good at being a Fed.

    BTW, seeing as I’m a born and bred Aussie, don’t you think it’s curious how they recruited me as a Fed, seeing as I live in Australia and all?
    I mean, what motive would they have in hiring a resident of a far off land?
    Do you think they’re worried about the goings on Down Under, that they’re afraid about Australian public opinion and their support for Trump’s 2024 Presidential campaign, even though we’re not eligible to vote in your elections?

    Anyway, who am I to quibble about such things. If it puts bread on the table, I’ll take their freshly conjured-from-thin-air USD and spend it on useful things.

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  783. @Ron Unz

    ‘However, as far as I know, the NOI people haven’t been murdering people for nearly a half-century. And don’t forget that the early Mormons also murdered many dozens or even hundreds of non-Mormons until they settled down a little. I think it’s not so very uncommon for religious sects in their early days to murder outsiders. Some of the stories of the Anabaptists in Germany are pretty horrifying.’

    Yes, but it’s my understanding that it’s literally an article of faith with Black Muslims that whites are the children of the devil. This implies a qualitative difference between my position with respect to them and my position with respect to Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Evangelicals, et al.

    The latter no doubt think that I am grievously mistaken in my theology and lifestyle — and can and do make themselves tedious trying to get me to see the light. What’s my position in the eyes of a Black Muslim? What treatment can I expect at his hands — if he had his druthers?

    You imply that Black Muslims will settle down and play nice. They’re going to come to terms with the children of the devil? Why should they? What makes you think they have or will?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  784. Anon[416] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    BTW, I quite like your new and improved pseudonym for Dovid Miller of FizzyCyst, and if you don’t mind, I’d like to use it henceforth.
    After all, a cyst is described as:
    ‘A pouch or sac without opening, usually membranous and containing morbid matter’, ….

    ….. and, as those who have crossed paths with him well know, this describes Dovid to a tee.

    It was inspired by IreneAthena:
    https://www.unz.com/announcement/open-thread-8/#comment-6409886

    FizzyCyst rhymes with Syphilis too.

    Check this out:
    https://www.unz.com/runz/elon-musk-goes-to-canossa/#comment-6414354

  785. Anon[416] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Once you’re in the lake of fire, you won’t be able to articulate your complaints against our Creator. All that we, who are fortunate enough to be in heaven courtesy of our faith in the atonement of Christ, will be able to hear are your blood curdling screams. So make sure you carefully annotate all of your charges against God here on TUR. Maybe for a good laugh God will unroll the TURd scroll and read your complaints in between your weeping wailing and gnashing of teeth. And if you insist on being cavalier and not caring about yourself, remember that wifey will go there with you.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @PhysicistDave
  786. Anon[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I believe your buddy George Carlin was raised as a devout Catholic and he actually got permission from the church to embark on his career as a lewd comedian. So it’s unlikely he will be down there to keep you company with his ribald humor. As for the other chaps Dawkins Dennet Harris etc, as loathsome as you are you are far more attuned to issues of Truth than those vile ZOG apologists. They don’t deserve your company down there and you don’t want theirs. I hope and pray you will return to your childhood roots being part of the family of Christ and God. Amen

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  787. I wonder if you can buy tickets online?

    ‘…Palestinian detainees released from two Israeli detention centers told the human rights group that they were stripped naked, beaten with metal batons and electric sticks, and verbally brutalized under the watch of civilian visitors.

    The visitors came to watch the torture sessions in groups of “ten to twenty”, seemingly organized by the Israeli army. In many cases, they were allowed to film the torture sessions on their phones…’

  788. @Anon

    Our nasty little “Christian” Anon wrote to me:

    Once you’re in the lake of fire, you won’t be able to articulate your complaints against our Creator. All that we, who are fortunate enough to be in heaven courtesy of our faith in the atonement of Christ, will be able to hear are your blood curdling screams.

    Ooooo…. such heartfelt expressions of Christian brotherly love!

    Hitler, Stalin, and Mao each murdered millions of innocent human beings.

    But not a one of those monsters tortured tens of billions of innocent human beings for all eternity!

    Do you have any sense at all that you are portraying your evil little godling as far, far more evil than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao?

    Do you realize that all decent Christians would be utterly repelled by your concept of Christianity?

    No, of course you don’t… because you are an evil, despicable, morally bankrupt monster.

  789. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to Ron Unz:

    Yes, but it’s my understanding that it’s literally an article of faith with Black Muslims that whites are the children of the devil. This implies a qualitative difference between my position with respect to them and my position with respect to Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Evangelicals, et al.

    I’m told by Mormon friends that Mormons’ official belief is that all of us infidels will get a second chance to repent in the afterlife — they don’t seem to go for this eternal hellfire stuff.

    Mormonism is, after all, a creation of Old Stock nineteenth-century Americans, who were, on the whole, pretty decent people.

    I wish the Black Muslims well.

    But I am very, very glad that none of them is my next-door neighbor!

  790. @Truth Vigilante

    My little buddy Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote to me:

    [Dave] I said i was of the same ethnic groups as Colin Wright: his name is English ….. just as I am (I’m mainly of English, Irish, and German descent).

    [The Fed] Sure you are Dovid.

    Just like you, Chuck Schumer, Jonathan Greenblatt and Yuval Harari are all lovely Anglo-Celtic lads that mean no harm to anyone.

    They are? All Anglo-Celts?

    And here I thought that Chuck, Jonny, and Yuval were all Jewish!

    I’ll have to ask them about that the next time I see them when we all get together for our national meeting of the Elders of Zion!

    The Fed also wrote:

    [Dave has] started levelling accusations that I’m a Fed (and Rurik too).

    Now I’m aware that the Feds infiltrated the Jan 6 protesters and encouraged them to break into the Capitol building – many of us are familiar with the Ray Epps incident.

    Well, of course, you know all about Epps because, after all, you yourself are quite obviously a Fed!

    The Fed also wrote:

    But I wasn’t aware that a single Fed ever came out and said that the two WTC towers and Building 7 were brought down in controlled demolitions on 9/11, that the lone gunman theory of the JFK coup d’etat was B.S (several teams of hitmen were present in Dealey Plaza that day…

    Oh, of course, you are aware of how this serves the interest of the Deep State!

    The International Court of Justice has found that there is plausible evidence that Israel is committing genocide in the Gaza… and the US government is obviously an accomplice in that genocide: tens of thousands of innocents are dead and two million are starving. The US regime is sexually mutilating children who are confused about their “gender.” The US Deep State has wasted tens of billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of innocent lives and is risking nuclear war trying to prop up the putschist regime it installed in Kiev in 2014. The US regime is jailing dissidents by the hundreds and is pursuing a slew of fake “show trials” to destroy the major challenger for the Presidency, just like the Moscow show trials of the 1930s.

    But you want to distract everyone’s attention from all those horrific ongoing crimes with crack-pot theories about 9/11 that obviously violate basic principles of physics.

    Of course you and your buddies are, in simple, objective terms, working for the US Deep State!

    We just don’t know for sure how much you are being paid.

    You have, after all, made clear that you are a NeverTrumper, stating (see here):

    Donald J Chump… is every bit as much a ZOG sock puppet as Biden

    Trump, as flawed as he is, is the only hope short-term of blocking the Deep State.

    But you are a NeverTrumper!

    You are quite obviously an asset of the Deep State, just like all the other NeverTrumpers.

    The NeverTrumper also asked:

    BTW, seeing as I’m a born and bred Aussie, don’t you think it’s curious how they recruited me as a Fed, seeing as I live in Australia and all?
    I mean, what motive would they have in hiring a resident of a far off land?

    You have been lying and lying and lying for years on this site — how do we know that you are really an Aussie?

    In any case, you can post on this site from anyplace in the world — why shouldn’t the US Deep State hire you regardless of where you live? I’m pretty sure you work cheap.

    What is important is that you are a self-confessed NeverTrumper who is doing his damnedest to distract people from the very real horrific crimes the US Deep State is committing today with your bizarrely false fantasies relating to events from decades ago.

    And you go to a great deal of trouble to denounce any of us who are actually trying to get everyone to focus on the crimes being committed by the US government today.

    It is your opposition to Trump that is the critical tell-tale. Trump convinced the Senate to defeat the fake border bill. Trump just got Lindsay Graham (!) to vote against the Ukraine aid bill, and Trump came out against all open-ended foreign aid.

    Most critically, the efforts to stop Trump involve the destruction of the American Republic. Not even the monster Abe Lincoln was as brazen in his attempts to destroy political opponents and to wreck our system of republican government as those who are trying to put Trump in jail for the rest of his life.

    We Americans are now dealing with a totalitarian regime: if they can do this to Trump they can do it to anyone.

    Right now, the cause of Donald J. Trump — as flawed a human being as he personally is — is the cause of the American Republic and is crucial to the future of the human race.

    But you are a NeverTrumper.

    What more proof could there be that you are an asset of the US Deep State?

    That is, you are a Fed.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  791. But you are a NeverTrumper.

    What more proof could there be that you are an asset of the US Deep State?

    Yes of course. I don’t know what came over me.
    Clearly, Donald J Chump is pure of heart and loyal to those that played a crucial role in exposing the shortcomings of the DNC and Hillary in the run up to the 2016 Presidential race, and thus being instrumental in getting the Orange Man elected (as the 1 min video below demonstrates):

    SUMMARY: That 1 min clip shows that Donald J Chump is honest to a fault.
    Clearly, Chump did what he did because Julian Assange is a Deep State asset – that’s become obvious to me now, because of your valuable assistance Fizzy-cyst Dovid.

    You are truly a man of the people, a patriot through and through.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  792. Rurik says:
    @PhysicistDave

    But you and the other Jew Haters here keep insisting that the Jews bear primary responsibility for lots of events when that is just not so.

    I blame Jewish supremacists and a few Gentile scum for the treasonous advent of the Fed, and all the subsequent betrayals as a direct abuse of the power of the Fed, like the World Wars and Great Depression, or the abomination squatting in the Holy land known as ‘Israel’. Including all the financial swindles and crony capitalism that is a direct consequence of the serial abuses of the ((Federal Reserve Bank)).

    Had the Fed treason never happened, I suppose Jews would never have been as disastrous for our civilization as they have. But given that power to loan America’s money back to the American people ~ at intere$t, has given Jews unprecedented power over our society.

    Gentiles tried to rein these uber-crooks after the Great Depression with Glass-Steagall, and Jews and their Gentile scum, eventually got rid of Glass,

    look at Greenspan there, is he clapping, or rubbing his hands?

    And golly, speaking of goy human dog shit, there’s John McCain! And John Boner is there too!

    ((Lawrence Summers)) was there of course. These Jewish swindlers knew exactly what they were doing.

    everyone of these rotten, treasonous scum should dance on the end of a rope, for deliberately setting in motion the mass looting and swindle that exploded in 2008.

    They knew what they were doing. They knew they were betraying Main Street, and looting the economy on behalf of ((Wall Street)) super-swindlers.

    But it would be ‘anti-Semitic of me to point out that this whole rat hole of theft and corruption was conceived and orchestrated by Jews, huh?

    Just like ((9/11)), that you, POS that you are, are too cowardly to even look into Building Seven, because you know, sack of shit that you are, that it leads directly to ZOG.

    But Jews played very little role in the coming of WW I or the American Civil War.

    enough with the Civil War, you putz

    you’re trying to obfuscate by misdirection

    you lacked the mental ability to acknowledge those obvious facts.

    not everyone can be a Stanford ‘genius’

    I have known since I was a child that I was willing to die for my country.

    blah, blah

    you’re nothing but a cowardly little piece of shit. Anyone who would attempt to distract from the criminals who murdered three thousand Americans and others on that infamous day, so they could set about the treasonous dismantling of the American people’s Constitutional rights, and send young American men and women to kill and die for a ((criminal regime)) in the Middle East, isn’t worth the shit my dog just dropped in the grass.

    And if you are afraid to even post your own name here,

    yea, you’d like that, wouldn’t you?

    People like you don’t like it when others tell the truth. They want to doxx them, and figure out cowardly ways of doing them harm, to silence them. A lot of that going on today. But JEWS have NOTHING to do with any of that!!! And anyone who says otherwise is a God damn anti-Semite!, huh Dave?

  793. Rurik says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    …. and that having a gold standard is restrictive.

    The way you spun that, you almost made it sound like the issuing of Fiat currency has many positive attributes.

    not today, TruthV, but perhaps at some times and some places. Wasn’t much of the original Colonial Scrip issued by the American colonies paper money?

    I think the key is if you’re treasury is issuing paper money to stimulate the economy, for instance, then if the treasury is being operated for the benefit of the people using the currency, then it’s not as bad. What we have today, is the opposite, where our enemies lend us our own money at interest, and then use that power to destroy us. I hope Woodrow is burning in Hell for eternity.

    But IN PRACTICE IT NEVER HAPPENS.

    at least, not in any living person’s memory.

    You say that ‘ having a gold standard is restrictive”, like it’s a bad thing.

    I was saying ‘that’s what they say’, iow the people who don’t want a gold standard today. I do!

    Rurik, what is it that you have against peace and prosperity?

    you know me better than that

    Now, I get it that he’s been grovelling to ZOG and demonstrating his servility.

    have you seen him lately? And he wants to use the U.S. dollar, to fix what ails Argentina.

    In the end, a successful Argentina resulting from the application of Libertarian ideas is not in ZOG’s best interest.

    Catholic Mexico is set to elect a Jewish women as president. Did you see Bolsonaro’s wife on election day in Brazil?

    If ever there was a day to wear a shit with the Brazilian flag, it would have been when her husband is running for president of Brazil. But she wears an Israeli flag?!

    WTF is going on in South America?

    SUMMARY: If Argentina is allowed to succeed..

    if they tie their economy to the U.S. dollar, then how can they possibly succeed in the long run, if the dollar is doomed in the long run?

    I ask sincerely, because you obviously know a lot more about it than I do.

  794. Rurik says:
    @Colin Wright

    By the second half of 1918 Germany was going to lose no matter what the Jews did.

    Perhaps so. I’m not a scholar But what if Germany knew what the Allies had in mind?

    What if, instead of intentions for ‘national self-determination’, for all nations, (including Germany), promised by Wilson’s Fourteen Points, (which tricked Germany into disarming at the Armistice), and then being starved literally into signing the German people over to slavery, and blaming them for the war, and allowing Germany to be lorded over by legions of depraved Jewish supremacists- who having recently been given a nice counterfeiting machine by Wilson, could now buy up all of Germany for a song, and treat the starving German children as their amusements, as Berlin was turned into a brothel for homos and pedophiles and every other kind of depravity..

    What if they knew that was going to be their fate? Would they have continued to fight, only with ten times the will? We’ll never know, because they were betrayed and enslaved to their enemies.

    It’s one thing when you’re fighting to keep Alsace-Lorraine German. It’s quite another when you’re fighting to keep your children from being raped by orcs.

    I suspect that if tomorrow, ZOG decided that Ukraine is not going to go as planned, and that it has become an inconvenience, that with that decision / they’d have Zelinsky offed in a New York minute, and in less time than that, all of congress and all of the governments of Germany and France and Poland and Finland and everywhere else that ZOG rules, (which you can tell by their fealty to Ukraine today and wokeness insanity and so forth..), would change policy on a dime, once the word came down, (just as TruthV explained in a post to Mr. Unz above).

    If they supported Germany one minute, on a dime, they can condemn it in the next, without even a second’s moral qualm.

    That is, what it means to be a Jewish supremacist. Everything, (and I do mean everything) comes down to ‘what is good for the Jews’, (as they perceive it), and if today you’re (Germany, Ukraine, U.S., etc..) ‘good for the Jews’, then all is kosher. But if tomorrow..

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
  795. @Rurik

    Rurik the Fed wrote to me:

    Had the Fed treason never happened, I suppose Jews would never have been as disastrous for our civilization as they have. But given that power to loan America’s money back to the American people ~ at intere$t, has given Jews unprecedented power over our society.

    You don’t understand the basic elements of how the banking system works.

    The Fed creates high-powered money out of thin air and uses it to buy securities — traditionally, though not always, US Treasuries. If the Fed makes a profit, it goes back to the US Treasury.

    People who get that high-powered money deposit it in their bank accounts and earn interest on it. Where do the banks get the money to pay the interest? Most of the new high-powered money deposited in the banks is loaned out to other people who have a need to borrow and who pay interest to the bank, much of which goes to the original depositors.

    But now the effective amount of money has increased: the new borrowers have most of the new money, but the original recipients still feel they have the money “on deposit” with the bank.

    And so it goes. In the end, the total increase in the money supply can be and usually is about five times the amount of the new “high-powered money” created by the Fed.

    You are just mistaken is saying that what is happening is that the Fed is “loan[ing] America’s money back to the American people.”

    No, they’re not: they are creating money out of thin air. And, as I said, if they make a profit, it goes to the Federal Treasury.

    The borrowers who get the new money are cool with this: they are not being ripped off. Similarly, the depositors who earn interest on their deposits are happy.

    So, why isn’t this win-win?

    Because the increase in the money supply from this whole process fuels price inflation.

    Which hurts everyone.

    And, because the new money first goes into the capital markets (stocks, bonds, real estate, etc.), it produces bubbles in those markets, which makes everyone happy.

    At first.

    Until the bubbles inevitably pop.

    You clearly do not grasp any of this with your quip that what is happening is the Fed “loan[ing] America’s money back to the American people.”

    If you want a good and readable explanation of all this, read Murray Rothbard’s The Mystery of Banking.

    Rothbard was a lifelong opponent of the Fed (as am I) because of the price inflation it produces and the bubbles it produces in asset markets. And of course he was also a radical anarcho-capitalist, as I am also.

    But of course Murray did not suffer from your delusion that the Fed is “loan[ing] America’s money back to the American people.”

    What I have just described is, in any case, standard monetary and banking economics, so you can learn about it from many other sources besides Rothbard. But at least you won’t think that Murray was apologizing for the Fed, since he really hated the Fed!

    Our own little Fed also wrote:

    [Dave] And if you are afraid to even post your own name here,

    [The little Fed] yea, you’d like that, wouldn’t you?

    Oh, I don’t really care one way or another.

    But if you are not willing to post your name, the town you live in, your educational background (or lack thereof) here, you are most assuredly not willing to speak up in the real world, where everyone will know for sure who you are, what you job is, etc.

    I.e., you are just cosplaying here: you are clearly not serious.

    So… why?

    The one obvious answer is because you are a Fed. You are spreading obvious lies and fantasies that I and others have pointed out about 9/11.

    Why are you doing that? Because it distracts people’s attention away from the very, very real crimes being committed today by the US regime — the hundreds of thousands being murdered in the proxy wars in Ukraine and Occupied Palestine, the sexual mutilation of children who are confused about their “gender,” the “show trials” being conducted against hundreds of innocent Americans and against the leading candidate for the Presidency, etc.

    Again, why would you you continue to focus on your crazy little fantasies about 9/11 that I and others on this site have so decisively debunked?

    Cui bono?

    The only reasonable conclusion is: you are a Federal asset.

    I do not know how much you are getting paid.

    But I do know that you are a Fed, little Fed.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Truth Vigilante
  796. @Rurik

    Rurik the Fed wrote to Truth Vigilante

    I think the key is if you’re treasury is issuing paper money to stimulate the economy, for instance, then if the treasury is being operated for the benefit of the people using the currency, then it’s not as bad.

    Wow! You’re a Keynesian leftist right down the line, aren’t you?

    “[I]issuing paper money to stimulate the economy” produces bubbles in the asset markets — the boom/bust cycle we are all familiar with — and price inflation.

    And you’re cool with that.

    Well… of course you are!

    Because, after all, you are a Fed.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  797. @Rurik

    Firstly, thanks for your excellent comment # 809.

    As for your comment # 810, yes the Colonial scrip served its purpose and it financed the war against Britain, so I acknowledge that there are some exceptional cases (like an existential crisis), where such measures can be implemented.
    That said, it was disastrous for holders of scrip, and people’s life savings were inflated away and became worthless.
    Meanwhile, we have a REAL WORLD EXAMPLE of how a colossal amount of money can be raised, in such a way which dos NOT entail that your money is inflated away (at least if you’re on the winning side of the war).
    Of course I refer to the U.S financing of WWII with War Bonds. The USG sold such bonds and, at war’s end the holders got their money back with interest added.
    They were paid in USD THAT WERE BACKED BY GOLD.
    Admittedly U.S citizens were not allowed to hold gold bullion and gold coins that had no numismatic value (ie: gold coins that had no more value than the gold contained within).

    But this was EASILY gotten around. Because a U.S citizen could buy Gold jewellery, or they could go to a coin dealer and buy gold coins that had numismatic value. (ie: a coin that had a collectable value that entailed it traded at a premium to its gold value).
    Well, the reality is that many gold coins traded at a small premium to their gold value, so this was a way to circumvent FDR’s law that banned U.S citizens from holding gold.
    OR, U.S citizens could cross the border into Mexico and Canada and buy all the gold they wanted with their USD, and store their gold in bank safe deposit boxes in those countries – and many did.
    The well-to-do who frequently travelled to Europe, could buy gold coins/bullion there and store tonnes of it in Swiss banks.

    Meanwhile, getting back to the topic of the financing of the Revolutionary War, I believe that even in the absence of said paper money, sufficient financing would’ve still been available and the patriots would’ve won out in the long run – perhaps a few years later than it actually transpired.
    The problem with Fiat money is that, once you’ve made an exception for its use, politicians will always find a way to convince the ignorant masses that we have an existential crisis in the making.
    They’ll say that we urgently need it to fund a War on Poverty 2.0, or a False Flag will be conjured that entails urgent need for funding of more weapons of death produced by the ZOG owned Defence contractors.

    In relation to Milei’s decision to tie the Argentinian economy to the USD, I wasn’t aware of that.
    However, I’m not surprised. Milei is just being a pragmatist because he knows that there are a ton of physical USD in circulation and being hoarded in his country.
    I suspect this is an intermediate measure, until such time as Argentina has gotten back on its feet. Milei knows it will be difficult to wean his countrymen off the hoarding of USD because that’s all they’be known for several generations.
    But, in the years to come, as Gold and silver rise in value in USD terms (esp. when the USD falls precipitously Vs Gold), his countrymen will work out for themselves that USD are not a safe haven, and they’ll be dumping them like a hot potato. Instead they’ll be buying Gold (and Silver), since there is every likelihood that we’ll have a bimetallic monetary system functioning in future, as it has for the near entirety of recorded history.
    You also wrote:

    Catholic Mexico is set to elect a Jewish woman as president.

    I wasn’t aware of that and know precious little about the political situation in Mexico. I do know that AMLO has been calling out the Anglo Zionist empire on many issues, and despite him being a Socialist and thus misguided on economic matters, I believe he’s a good man.
    It wouldn’t surprise me if ZOG is trying to manoeuvre its people into positions of power in Latin America. That said, we shouldn’t assume that just because one of the goyim is elected in any particular Sth American country, that they’re ‘one of us’ and seeking truth and justice.
    We know first hand (eg: John McCain, Nancy Pelosi, Tony Blair, Justin Trudeau, Lindsey Graham etc), that there are a TON of conscience free opportunists in the ranks of the goyim that are prepared to sell out to ZOG for a few shekels of silver.

    By the same token, said Jewish woman that may become the Mexican President, may be a righteous Jew, someone with integrity and a conscience. ie: someone that puts the welfare of Mexican citizens FIRST, and her allegiance to the tribe SECOND (or ideally in last place).
    If so, I wish her every success. We’ll just have to see how things play out.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  798. @Truth Vigilante

    Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote to me:

    [Dave]But you are a NeverTrumper.

    What more proof could there be that you are an asset of the US Deep State?

    [The Fed] Yes of course. I don’t know what came over me.

    Glad you have admitted it.

    Trump is certainly far, far from perfect. Frankly, I find his policies only marginally better than Genocide Joes’s and Crooked Hillary’s.

    On the other hand, Trump does seem to have killed the current “aid” bill to funnel tens of billions more to the Nazis in Kiev.

    But, most critically, as I said before, the crucial battle in American history is the “show trials” now being conducted against Trump. Those trials are far, far more important than Trumps’ positions on the issues.

    If they can succeed with these “show trials,” so reminiscent of the Stalinist “show trials” in Moscow in the 1930s, then the American Republic is dead.

    But you’re a NeverTrumper!

    Why?

    The answer is simple and obvious: because you are a Federal asset.

    You are a Fed.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  799. Yevardian says:
    @Ron Unz

    And don’t forget that the early Mormons also murdered many dozens or even hundreds of non-Mormons until they settled down a little.

    Was unaware of this, is this told in mainstream books on Mormon history? I’ve never read on the topic myself.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Antiwar7
  800. @Anon

    Our full-of-brotherly-love Anon[361] wrote to me:

    I believe your buddy George Carlin was raised as a devout Catholic and he actually got permission from the church to embark on his career as a lewd comedian.

    Ummm…. have you seen Carlin’s very funny bit where he explains why he worships the Sun but prays to Joe Pesci?

    So, tell us: which church authorized that? The SpongeBob SqaurePants Church?

    Our lovely dude who will enjoy watching us all being tortured for all eternity in Hell (by his deeply loving godling, of course) also wrote:

    I hope and pray you will return to your childhood roots being part of the family of Christ and God.

    Logically, that cannot happen: I cannot “return” to what I never was.

    As I have said many times, my parents dragged my little brother and me to a Christian church when we were kids. But neither of us was ever baptized, neither of us ever joined the church, neither of us ever considered “accepting Jesus.” From a very, very early age, as early as I can remember, I smelt a rat.

    Nope, I was no more a Christian than I was a salamander. Cannot return to being a salamander, either.

    Our milk-of-human-kindness friend also wrote:

    As for the other chaps Dawkins Dennet Harris etc, as loathsome as you are you are far more attuned to issues of Truth than those vile ZOG apologists.

    Ummm…. Dawkins is English.

    And of course one helluva guy.

    As is Dennett, so I hear.

    Harris… well, he strikes me as a bit of a party-pooper.

    But Carlin and Lenny Bruce and Dick Feynman and Darwin and on and on?

    Can’t beat that.

    And just remember the wisdom of that great poet Homer:

    “What if we pick the wrong religion? Every week we’re jut making God madder and madder.’

    Your little godling is the wrong religion. Jesus was delusional. You worship a psychotic. If there is a god, you are just making him madder and madder!

    And, in your heart you know it — which is why you post as Anon.

    Repent ye, repent ye, for it is time for you to leave the caverns of evil and come our into the light of truth!

    Accept the universe!

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  801. Rurik says:
    @PhysicistDave

    If the Fed makes a profit, it goes back to the US Treasury.

    oh yes, they would Never! take a profit

    when’s the last time the Fed has been audited, eh?

    You clearly do not grasp any of this with your quip that what is happening is the Fed “loan[ing] America’s money back to the American people.”

    that’s just one small aspect of the (Biblical level of treason) that is the Fed.

    if you want to know more, read G. Edward Griffin’s books on it, like this one..

    https://www.hustleescape.com/book-summary-creature-from-jekyll-island-by-edward-griffin/

    basically the Fed is a ‘legalized’ counterfeiting racket that gives a handful of powerful Jewish banking dynasties the power to print (digitally these days) our money, and then loan it out to their cronies in the banking world. Or buy up Wall Street’s bad debts and a lot of other wholesale looting of the American people, to benefit a handful of Jewish supremacists, that use their ill-gotten lucre to fund politicians and policies and buy up media and institutions and foment wars and basically, do what Jews do. Corrupt and destroy and loot. (not necessarily in that order).

    But of course Murray did not suffer from your delusion that the Fed is “loan[ing] America’s money back to the American people.”

    if congress authorizes another hundred billion to the corrupt Jewish supremacist regime in Ukraine or Israel, and there aren’t enough suckers to buy the Treasuries, then where does the money come from, eh?

    Oh, yea, but I forgot. If these Jews printing our money and then loaning it to us at interest, make any profits at all, then of course they give it all back to the U.S. Treasury, (all in secret, of course) because they would rather take the place of those Ukrainian men dying in the trenches, than ever profit from their Fed swindle. We all know that, don’t we Dovid?

    But if you are not willing to post your name, the town you live in,…

    lol

    So… why?

    have you ever heard of Julian Assange? He used his own name to publish things ZOG didn’t like.

    Do you know who the Jan 6th “insurrectionists” are? They’re languishing in ZOG’s gulags, some of them for decades, because ZOG doesn’t like their politics.

    If at the moment, I’d rather not stick my neck out, because I’m more than fond of my family, and don’t want to see what some crazed shithead might do to harm us, (I’ve encountered more than enough threats just by telling the truth about things like ((9/11)) at this site), that I think it’s prudent at this time to remain under a ‘nome de plume’. There’s a reason doxxing is not tolerated by Internet websites, and that’s because crazed shitheads have been known to go to people’s homes and try to intimidate them into silence.

    You are spreading obvious lies and fantasies that I and others have pointed out about 9/11.

    oh, you mean like that Building Seven was an obvious controlled demolition, and that puts the lie to the entire official ((9/11)) conspiracy theory that Osama and his nineteen henchmen did it?

    Why are you doing that?

    because I would like to see the real perpetrators held accountable. Like Larry Silverstien – who, if I recall correctly, you consider one of the main victims of ((9/11)).

    Isn’t that what you said?

    And you call me a fed.

    Only the most repulsive of apologists for ZOG’s crimes, would ever call ‘Lucky Larry’ a victim.

    You’re really an amazing piece of work, Stanford.

    your crazy little fantasies about 9/11 that I and others on this site have so decisively debunked?

    now I could just do a ‘lol’

    but I got such a belly laugh out of that one, that I need to thank Mr. Unz, for providing this site.

    (I’m still! laughing ; )

    The only reasonable conclusion is: you are a Federal asset.

    mea culpa!

    you’ve found me out. I work for the CIA/FBI/Mossad/NSA/MI6.. blah, blah..

    they did report that Netanyahoo and Larry Silverstein are very close friends, and speak on a weekly basis by telephone, but what they didn’t tell you is that it’s a conference call, and I am the third person.

    “The two have been on friendly terms since Netanyahu’s stint as Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations. For years they kept in close touch. Every Sunday afternoon, New York time, Netanyahu would call Silverstein. It made no difference what the subject was or where Netanyahu was, he would always call, Silverstein told an Israeli acquaintance. Their ties continued after Netanyahu became prime minister. They met several times and Netanyahu promised to give the project his support.”

    More here on our discussions..

    Ariel Sharon called Larry Silverstein, a Jewish real estate magnate in New York, the owner of the World Trade Center’s 110-story Twin Towers and a close friend, to ask how he was. Since then they have spoken a few more times. Two former prime ministers – Benjamin Netanyahu, who this week called Silverstein a “friend,” and Ehud Barak, whom Silverstein in the past offered a job as his representative in Israel – also called soon after the disaster. Yaakov Terner, the mayor of Be’er Sheva, sent a letter of condolence.

    https://www.haaretz.com/2001-11-21/ty-article/up-in-smoke/0000017f-dc11-d856-a37f-fdd16fb20000

    I was the guy who put the kibosh on Silverstein’s plans for a free trade zone in the Negev desert.

    I simply looked at it closely, and decided it just wasn’t prudent, (good for the Jews) at the time. So I told them, (in perfect Hebrew, of course) that is just wasn’t going to work out. Larry was furious at me for quite some time, but he got over it.

  802. Rurik says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Thank you as always for your thoughtful and informative comments, TruthV

    Yes, I feel the same way you do about fiat money, and my solution, (at least personally) is to own physical gold and silver. I advocate that for all prudent and responsible people, who don’t want to be cut short ‘the day the dollar dies’.

    One should always diversify, and always have plenty of cash on hand, but once you have enough for a few months (or, even a year or so), then stock up on gold and silver, (and ammo and so forth, just in case). Personally, I’d advocate investing in real estate, if you have the wherewithal and once you own a cache of silver dollars, just in case the bottom drops out. I’d avoid the Wall Street casino at all costs.

    I’m not a gloom and doom kind of guy, but I think history teaches that none of us ever know what’s around the corner.

    Milei is just being a pragmatist…

    I suppose so, it just vexes me to see how ‘pragmatic’ these leaders of their ‘sovereign’ nations feel they have to be.

    https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/JAdmIROAlJJ6DKJ7.Z8R4Q–/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTY0MA--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/evening_standard_239/05c1df9d66b507064e67cd8d6b970206

    If he truly understands global economics, (and I confess I don’t know that much about him) then it seems to me it’s like he’s hoping to win the favor of God/providence, by abasing himself and worshiping at the feet of the devil.

    But then perhaps that’s the only way forward, in our Jewified world. If so, he’s a far, far greater man than I could ever be.

    I believe he’s [AMLO] a good man.

    I have a metric, or ‘litmus test’ that I use these days to determine my opinion of national leaders, (and individuals).

    What are they saying about the ongoing genocide in Gaza?

    aid workers have reported visible signs of starvation,

    https://www.reuters.com/pictures/fear-famine-grows-gaza-hunger-hits-crisis-levels-2024-02-13/

    if they are silent, in the face of a modern-day Holocaust, then what does that say about them?

    If you can’t or won’t condemn the mass starvation/genocide of millions of men, women and children, then what does that say about you?

    I understand pragmatism .. up to a point.

    Jewish woman that may become the Mexican President, may be a righteous Jew, someone with integrity and a conscience.

    I did a search of ‘Claudia Sheinbaum Gaza’

    Apparently, she has never heard of the place, and has had this to say about it..

  803. @Rurik

    Good stuff Rurik.

    Fizzy-cyst Dovid says ‘ he
    and others on this site have so decisively debunked your crazy little fantasies about 9/11’, but the reality is that his pseudoscience has confirmed that he’s affiliated with ZOG.

    FACT: There is near unanimity among the honest UR contributors (both those posting comments and those well respected and well researched individuals that submit articles like Dr Kevin Barrett, Laurent Guyenot and countless others), that the WTC towers and Bldg 7 were brought down in controlled demolitions.

    The ONLY individual that I’m aware of that consistently runs with the official ZOG/NIST dictated narrative on the collapse of these buildings (other than the lying hound Fizzy-cyst Dovid), is the known disinfo peddler and ignorant twit using the handle Wizard of ZOG.
    That puts Fizzy-Dov in some good company – as far known sayan are concerned.

    Meanwhile, in relation to the role of the U.S Federal Reserve, Fizzy Dov purposely leaves out the major items of chicanery that the Fed involves itself with in his comment # 812, which I will address and promptly eviscerate in the next day or so.
    (It is the early hours of the morning where I’m at and I’m off to bed now).

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @PhysicistDave
  804. Ron Unz says:
    @Yevardian

    And don’t forget that the early Mormons also murdered many dozens or even hundreds of non-Mormons until they settled down a little.

    Was unaware of this, is this told in mainstream books on Mormon history? I’ve never read on the topic myself.

    Well, the most famous incident was the Mountain Meadows Massacre, in which the Mormons wiped out an entire wagon train of non-Mormon settlers moving through their territory.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre

    There was a widely-reviewed book published about it a few years ago. But I think there were also large numbers of much smaller incidents along similar lines.

  805. bjondo says:
    @Ron Unz

    …in which the Mormons wiped out an entire wagon train of non-Mormon settlers moving through their territory.

    OT birthed, inspired and blessed.

    5ds

  806. Antiwar7 says:
    @Yevardian

    Also, the backstory of the first Sherlock Holmes story, the novel A Study in Scarlet, deals with a violent Mormon secret police of sorts, called the Avenging Angels in the book.

  807. Rurik says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    the WTC towers and Bldg 7 were brought down in controlled demolitions.

    I understand if people accept the official narrative, because they’ve never given it any thought. Most people are incurious and insouciant, as PCR calls it.

    But for those who know about Building Seven, and have seen the myriad videos, and had it explained to them, and how it was pre-reported by news agencies, and how the evidence was all destroyed before an investigation could be done, and so forth..

    then if they’re still dismissive, unless they’re a complete imbecile, I conclude they are rather, a lying POS who’s determined to defend the indefensible official narrative, at all costs.

    And that is what I’ve come to conclude about the Fizzy-Cyst Dovid

    His whole ‘American conservative type of patriot’ shtick, is all horse shite.

    He’s a gatekeeper for the regime.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  808. @PhysicistDave

    The Fed creates high-powered money out of thin air and uses it to buy securities — traditionally, though not always, US Treasuries. If the Fed makes a profit, it goes back to the US Treasury.

    Fizzy-cyst Dovid, there’s much you [conveniently] leave out of your little rant about the ZOG owned Federal Reserve.
    First of all I’ve never once heard you say that the Fed is owned by a cartel of depraved Talmudic misfits (aka ZOG), although this is on the public record and no one disputes it.

    You claim that if the Fed makes a profit, it goes back to the US Treasury – implying that their dealings are transparent. Well then, I ask you, if the Fed is so transparent, WHY does the Fed refuse to be audited as Rurik alluded to? What has it got to hide if it is engaging in legal practices, as it claims to be doing?
    Dr Ron Paul has been lobbying for FIVE DECADES for an audit of the Fed, and still nothing has come of it – because the bought and paid for bulk of the U.S Congress refuses to allow it.

    Secondly, you may be aware how U.S treasuries work. If they’re in demand and highly sought after, buyers compete in the market to purchase them and their market price increases with that demand. Meanwhile, the interest rate goes in an INVERSE direction as the price of the bond goes up.
    So the Fed has been conjuring money out of thin air to purchase U.S 2, 5, 10, 30 yr (and short dated) bonds etc, and as it does the interest rate offered on said bonds declines, thus making it EASIER for the U.S government to service the interest payments on its accumulated debt.

    This all worked fine while said bonds were going up in value. And yes, if the Fed purchased a particular 10 yr bond when the interest rate offered was say 3%, it could sell that bond for a tidy profit when the 10 yr bond rate had declined to under 1% (which it did a few years ago).

    However, 2022 WAS THE WORST YEAR IN THE HISTORY OF THE U.S BOND MARKET.

    Numerous entities bought U.S treasuries when the 10 yr bonds (for example) offered an interest rate of around 60 bps (60 basis points = 0.6%) as it was a few years ago.
    But no entity on the planet bought more than the Fed, who is now in a position where it would record CATASTROPHIC LOSSES if it were to sell those 10 yr bonds in the market today (offering an interest rate of 4.26% at the time of wiring this), when said bonds are worth much less than they were a few years ago.

    https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/TVC-US10Y/

    Simply put, said losses from the Fed’s reckless trading of bonds would be leave the Treasury (ie: the U.S taxpayer) on the hook to pay for them.
    And I can assure you that the losses from recent years GREATLY EXCEED any paper* profits that the Fed may have made in the past.
    (*Note how I said ‘paper profits’. The fact is that the Fed does not realise a profit or loss on Treasury/bond holdings until it actually sells them. So, in relation to the massive losses it currently has, said bonds are not being sold. The Fed just holds them to maturity then rolls them over. ie: it repurchases them itself with freshly conjured USD).

    Now, if it were only Treasuries (ie: U.S short and long dated bonds) that the Fed was buying, it wouldn’t be so bad. But they’ve conjured trillions from thin air to:

    1) Engage in Quantitative Easing, whereby it spent trillions buying MBS’s (Mortgage Backed Securities), to artificially prop up the U.S real estate market.
    Absent that financial chicanery, U.S real estate would be worth far less – and may well fall to 2008 GFC levels once more without Fed intervention.

    2) Engage in a second, third and fourth rounds of QE to buy treasury securities, and later for ‘asset purchases’ during QE4, in response to the Covid Psyop which ZOG engineered.
    The Fed conveniently does not specify what those ‘asset purchases’ were. More than likely they overpaid for assets owned by ZOG crony corporations that had collapsed in value – hence bailing out Jewish cronies that had speculated recklessly and would have been bankrupted otherwise.

    3) Spend trillions during the 2019 Repo crisis:
    ‘On September 17, 2019, interest rates on overnight repurchase agreements (or “repos”), which are short-term loans between financial institutions, experienced a sudden and unexpected spike.’
    The Secured Overnight Financing Rate (SOFR), increased from 2.43 percent on September 16 to 5.25 percent on September 17 – an indication that banks didn’t trust one another to repay short term loans because they viewed one another as potentially insolvent.

    4) Lend trillions to foreign banks and companies during the 2008 GFC (refer to the article below titled ‘Federal Reserve Lent $3.3 Trillion to US, Foreign Companies’:

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/federal-reserve-lent-33-trillion-to-us-foreign-companies-1505569

    Now I ask you, what the hell is the U.S Fed doing lending trillions to FOREIGN banks and corporations?
    Answer: Said foreign entities are entities that ZOG has substantial holdings in, so whether or not they’re U.S owned is of no consequence. If ZOG stands to lose money or have one of their businesses go bankrupt, the Fed must step in to bail out their reckless business practices that put the company in that precarious position in the first place.
    In other words, the ZOG owned Fed ensures that profits are privatised and losses are socialised (ie: borne by the U.S taxpayer).

    Some of you might be thinking that these loans were made with freshly conjured U.S dollars from the Fed, so it’s not like taxes were increased or it came directly out of their pockets.
    But what they miss is that EVERY FRESHLY PRINTED/DIGITALLY CREATED USD THAT COMES INTO EXISTENCE, REDUCES THE PURCHASING POWER OF THOSE DOLLARS ALREADY IN CIRCULATION.

    In other words, U.S citizens are subject to the ‘Inflation Tax’, so you’re indirectly paying for these bail outs of ZOG crony businesses with increased prices of consumer goods/rent payments/utility bills etc.

    SUMMARY: Nice try Fizzy-cyst Dovid in trying to defend the financial chicanery of your precious Federal Reserve is engaged in, but it won’t wash – we see right through you.
    And quit with the invoking of Murray Rothbard’s name when you quote Fed related matters.
    Rothbard was a fierce critic of the ZOG owned Fed and his position is a world away from yours on most matters.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  809. @Rurik

    Rurik the Fed wrote to me:

    [Dave] If the Fed makes a profit, it goes back to the US Treasury.

    [The Fed] oh yes, they would Never! take a profit

    I don’t know how to break this to you, but the Federal Reserve System is an agency of the United States government –– created by the Congress, controlled by the Congress, answerable to the Congress.

    Like the Postal Service.

    Yes, yes, I know: neither the Postal Service nor the Fed is a Cabinet agency. But both are agencies of the US federal government. The name kinda gives it away, you know: the “Federal” Reserve System!

    Everyone knows this. And, of course, since you yourself are a Fed, you know it, too.

    How on Earth could the Fed “take a profit”??? It’s not a private corporation whose owners can sell shares on the NYSE, etc.

    But, again, you know this, since you are yourself a Fed.

    The Fed also wrote:

    [Dave] You clearly do not grasp any of this with your quip that what is happening is the Fed “loan[ing] America’s money back to the American people.”

    [The Fed] that’s just one small aspect of the (Biblical level of treason) that is the Fed.

    if you want to know more, read G. Edward Griffin’s books on it, like this one..

    https://www.hustleescape.com/book-summary-creature-from-jekyll-island-by-edward-griffin/

    basically the Fed is a ‘legalized’ counterfeiting racket that gives a handful of powerful Jewish banking dynasties the power to print (digitally these days) our money, and then loan it out to their cronies in the banking world. Or buy up Wall Street’s bad debts and a lot of other wholesale looting of the American people, to benefit a handful of Jewish supremacists, that use their ill-gotten lucre to fund politicians and policies and buy up media and institutions and foment wars and basically, do what Jews do. Corrupt and destroy and loot. (not necessarily in that order).

    The Fed is indeed legalized counterfeiting, which is why I am opposed to it: the Fed fuels the boom/bust cycle and produces price inflation.

    But you were simply not telling the truth when you wrote earlier that what the Fed does is:

    loan America’s money back to the American people ~ at intere$t

    No, it doesn’t.

    That is a lie.

    The Fed creates money out of thin air, ex nihilo.

    You were also simply lying when you stated:

    I think the key is if you’re treasury is issuing paper money to stimulate the economy, for instance, then if the treasury is being operated for the benefit of the people using the currency, then it’s not as bad.

    No — “issuing paper money to stimulate the economy” is the heart of the problem: that is inflationary and leads to bubbles in the asset markets and to price inflation.

    You are spouting leftist Keynesian nonsense because, of course, you are a leftist: you are a Fed.

    The Fed also wrote:

    If at the moment, I’d rather not stick my neck out, because I’m more than fond of my family, and don’t want to see what some crazed shithead might do to harm us, (I’ve encountered more than enough threats just by telling the truth about things like ((9/11)) at this site), that I think it’s prudent at this time to remain under a ‘nome de plume’.

    If you were really afraid to give your name here, you most certainly would be afraid to express your opinions in the real world, where everyone who hears you would know where you work, where you live, etc. You would simply be what my dad used to call a “gutless wonder.”

    But of course you have no intention of expressing these opinions in the real world, because you are not really stupid enough to believe what you post here.

    Countless commenters here have decisively refuted the nonsense you post about 9/11, “the Jews,” etc., and you have never made even the slightest effort to provide any evidence or reasons for the nonsense you post.

    Why? Because you know it is nonsense. You are just engaged in a PsyOp — you are a Fed.

    If you were serious about what you were posting, you would try to give reasons and evidence for it, but you don’t — you just continue to spout off nonsense and attack anyone who points out that it is nonsense.

    I myself have gone into great detail about the idiotic nonsense from a physics viewpoint that you and your buddies have posted about 9/11. Makes no difference: no one addresses what I explain — they just claim I am a secret Jew!

    In the last couple days, I have explained in detail why what you have posted about the Fed is nonsense. Has no effect.

    Because you are a Fed.

    Your whole purpose is to divert people down the rabbit holes of your 9/11 lies and your Jew-Hatred nonsense so that people will not focus on the the mass murders the US Deep State is — right now! — bringing about in Ukraine and Palestine, the totalitarian efforts the US Deep State is bringing about– right now! — to jail the leading candidate for the US Presidency, etc.

    Because you are a Fed.

    The evidence is clear and obvious.

    You are a Fed.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Truth Vigilante
  810. @Ron Unz

    Well, the most famous incident was the Mountain Meadows Massacre, in which the Mormons wiped out an entire wagon train of non-Mormon settlers moving through their territory.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre

    There was a widely-reviewed book published about it a few years ago. But I think there were also large numbers of much smaller incidents along similar lines.

    It’s worth noting that the Mormons did see themselves as a separate people at the time, hd fled to Utah to escape persecution, and saw the gentiles as invaders.

    It all came to a head a few years later with a quasi-military confrontation that ended with the Mormons submitting to federal authority.

  811. @Rurik

    Rurik the Fed wrote to Truth “the Fed” Vigilante

    And that is what I’ve come to conclude about the Fizzy-Cyst Dovid

    His whole ‘American conservative type of patriot’ shtick, is all horse shite.

    I am not a conservative and make no pretense of being one.

    I am a radical anarchist: look at my extended debate above with Colin. I
    am a Samson-in-theTemple guy — I want to pull down the entire structure of institutions and authority created by Progressives starting in the late nineteenth century. I hate the regime.

    I am also a rabid atheist and have been for well over fifty years: doesn’t fit in real well with conservatives!

    Nope — I’m not an ‘American conservative type of patriot’ and I certainly do not pretend to be.

    But you are a Fed.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  812. Rurik says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I don’t know how to break this to you, but the Federal Reserve System is an agency of the United States government –– created by the Congress, controlled by the Congress, answerable to the Congress.

    Like the Postal Service.

    Mr Unz, do you still vouch for this Stanford academic, ‘intellectual’?

    I wish you would put a gold box around his comment, just for the pure irony of it.

    I’d say it certainly deserves recognition, no?

    This is a guy who arrogantly insists that he knows so much more about things like the Fed, that he denigrates anyone who challenges his staggering imbecilities.

    And then he writes something like the above quote, and it’s like I’m talking to a sixth grader.

    Yes, yes, I know: neither the Postal Service nor the Fed is a Cabinet agency. But both are agencies of the US federal government. The name kinda gives it away, you know: the “Federal” Reserve System!

    I’m not a university-trained academic or scholar or anything like that. And I even take pains to point out my humble lack of erudition, but then I find myself ‘debating’ someone like this who throws out his ‘Stanford!’ credentials as an authority on what he speaks, and he sounds dumber than an AOC, only with more arrogance.

    How on Earth could the Fed “take a profit”??? It’s not a private corporation whose owners can sell shares on the NYSE, etc.

    yep, dumber than an AOC or Kamala Harris..

    You are spouting leftist Keynesian nonsense because, of course, you are a leftist: you are a Fed.

    Is there anyone ever who’ve I’ve debated with over the years on your site, (I’m speaking to you, Mr. Unz) or who I’ve crossed ideological swords with over the years, who could have ever been dumb enough to mistake me for a federal agent?

    Countless commenters here have decisively refuted the nonsense you post about 9/11, “the Jews,” etc., and you have never made even the slightest effort to provide any evidence or reasons for the nonsense you post.

    the troll Corvy had a more nuanced brain than Stanford

    and that is not saying much!

    In the last couple days, I have explained in detail why what you have posted about the Fed is nonsense. Has no effect.

    LOL

    Rurik the Fed

    you are yourself a Fed.

    The Fed also wrote:

    you are a leftist: you are a Fed.

    The Fed also wrote:

    — you are a Fed.

    Because you are a Fed.

    Because you are a Fed.

    The evidence is clear and obvious.

    You are a Fed.

    is that what passes for an academic these days?

    the intellectual equivalent of a soap commercial, where by repeating it, it makes it true?

    In any case, I’m grateful to you Dave, for taking the time to reply. Your comments have been very enlightening, and I have to admit, very entertaining.

    Astounding, really.

    For that, I should say thanks. It’s always fun to be astonished from time to time..

  813. @Rurik

    > I blame Jewish supremacists and a few Gentile scum for the treasonous advent of the Fed, … Gentiles tried to rein these uber-crooks after the Great Depression with Glass-Steagall, and Jews and their Gentile scum, eventually got rid of Glass,

    Here your confusion is on display. Carter Glass was one of the major architects of the Federal Reserve Act:

    https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/federal-reserve-act-signed

    —–
    The House Banking and Currency Committee assigned a subcommittee under the leadership of Rep. Carter Glass to explore reform proposals. Glass quickly enlisted the help of Henry Parker Willis, a professor at Washington and Lee University. Willis, who also wrote for the New York Journal of Commerce, would come to wield enormous influence over a subcommittee whose members had little knowledge of banking and finance.

    The legislation Glass introduced had some aspects in common with the Aldrich plan, but there were some major differences. While Aldrich would have created a central body, the Glass bill provided for a system of regional banks. Glass, in fact, favored as many as twenty regional banks throughout the country and did not like the idea of a central coordinating board.

    Glass also believed firmly in autonomous regional banks, later writing in a memoir: “In the United States, with its immense area, numerous natural divisions, still more numerous competing divisions, and abundant outlets to foreign countries, there is no argument, either of banking theory or of expediency, which dictates the creation of a single central banking institution, no matter how skillfully managed, how carefully controlled, or how patriotically conducted.”

    Glass also did not like the idea of government control. Like Aldrich, his plan gave most of the authority to bankers. Wilson, however, felt the plan needed an oversight agency. He also believed strongly that neither Congress nor the public would support a proposal that gave the government little control.

    Early on, Glass had suggested that the comptroller of the currency perform a coordinating function over the system, but Wilson favored a central board. A provision creating the Federal Reserve Board was added to exercise supervisory authority over the banks. It was made up entirely of presidential appointees: either ex officio members because of their cabinet positions or appointees to the Board for specific terms. To provide bankers with a voice, Wilson also created the Federal Advisory Council, a group of twelve bankers elected by the regional banks that would occasionally meet with the Board.

    Much of the early congressional criticism of the bill focused on the fact that Glass’s subcommittee had largely done its work secretly, with Republicans having little involvement in crafting the legislation. The more substantive debate, however, focused on the issues of control, especially the power of the central board…

    Bibliography
    Glass, Carter. An Adventure in Constructive Finance. New York: Doubleday, Page and Co., 1927.
    —–

  814. @Rurik

    > But what if Germany knew what the Allies had in mind?

    As for what would have happened if Germany had insisted on carrying on the war for another year, that’s easy to answer: the Allies were already preparing to drop gas across German cities.

    —–
    Plans to annihilate Berlin: Lt. Col. Augustin M. Prentiss of the Chemical Warfare Service wrote …: “Our offensive in 1919, in my opinion, would have been a walk to Berlin, due to chemical warfare. The campaign of 1919 would have been largely a chemical war.” … The New York Times reported on 25 May 1919 that two American airplanes carrying lewisite could have wiped out “every vestige of life–animal and vegetable–in Berlin. A single day’s output would snuff out the millions of lives on Manhattan Island.”
    —–
    — Scott Christianson, Fatal Airs, p. 178.

  815. bjondo says:

    Following the money, organizations, individuals:

    Following the money: How pro-Israel megadonors are working to stop politicians who might uphold Palestinian rights

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/these-are-the-jewish-megadonors-helping-fund-bidens-republican-congress-members-reelection-campaigns/

    Israel Lobby Organizations & Individuals: The List

    https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/introlobby.html

    Latest News and Analysis From IAK

    https://ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/ipn-feed.html

    5ds

  816. @Rurik

    > when’s the last time the Fed has been audited, eh?

    https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/audited-annual-financial-statements.htm

    —–
    Federal Reserve System Audited Annual Financial Statements

    The Board of Governors, the Federal Reserve Banks, and the limited liability companies (LLCs) are all subject to several levels of audit and review. The Reserve Banks’ and LLCs’ financial statements are audited annually by an independent public accounting firm retained by the Board of Governors. To ensure auditor independence, the Board requires that the external auditor be independent in all matters relating to the audit. Specifically, the external auditor may not perform services for the Reserve Banks, the LLCs, or affiliates that would place it in a position of auditing its own work, making management decisions on behalf of the Reserve Banks or the LLCs, or in any other way impairing its audit independence. In addition, the Reserve Banks and LLCs are subject to oversight by the Board.
    —–

    • Replies: @bjondo
  817. @PhysicistDave

    Fizzy-cyst Dovid falsely asserts:

    I don’t know how to break this to you, but the Federal Reserve System is an agency of the United States government –– created by the Congress, controlled by the Congress, answerable to the Congress.

    I suggest you watch this 1 min video where former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan admits that the Fed is ABOVE THE LAW:

    SUMMARY: The ZOG owned Fed is accountable and answerable to NO ONE.
    It does what it does with total autonomy and the USG is powerless to prevent it.
    The USG exercises NO OVERSIGHT whatsoever in relation to the ZOG owned Fed.

    Fizzy-cyst Dovid once again demonstrates what an ignorant fool he is on these matters.
    Murray Rothbard was intimately familiar with the nefarious ways of the Fed, hence his calls for its abolition. You Fizzy-Dov claim to be a devotee of Rothbard, yet know precious little about his public pronouncements.

    Fizzy-cyst Dovid, you can persist with all the projection that you wish, by labelling other people as Feds.
    But your defence of the ZOG owned Federal Reserve (not to mention your asinine claims about 9/11), are all the proof in the world for UR readers to ascertain that you have a Talmudic dog in this race.

  818. @Ron Unz

    Ron, especially for the benefit of readers that are new to UR, we all appreciate how you expose individuals like Patrick McNally for being ADL operatives that are stationed here to peddle their misdirection.
    Similarly for the numerous instances where you’ve slapped down Wizard of ZOG for being the ignorant nitwit that he most assuredly is.

    But surely now Ron, in light of all the brazen lies that Fizzy-cyst Dovid has posted in recent months, you must have come to the realisation that Fizzy-Dov is also in the employ of the ADL or the B’nai B’rith degenerates.
    The sheer volume of nonsense that Fizzy-Dov has posted is testament to the fact that he does not seek the truth on any of the contentious issues.

    Ron, I look forward to the ‘coming out’ ceremony, where you officially announce to the readership that Fizzy-cyst Dovid is up to no good.
    (BTW Ron, as bad as Patrick McNally and Fizzy-cyst Dovid are, it can’t have escaped your attention that the individual that uses the handle John’s Johnson, is the standout compulsive liar in this webzine. I’m surprised that you haven’t called him out yet).

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  819. bjondo says:
    @Patrick McNally

    Apparently the Fed does get an audit of some sort, regularly.

    The Fed Audit July 21, 2011

    The first top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve uncovered eye-popping new details about how the U.S. provided a whopping $16 trillion* in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks and businesses during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. An amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders to the Wall Street reform law passed one year ago this week directed the Government Accountability Office to conduct the study. “As a result of this audit, we now know that the Federal Reserve provided more than $16 trillion in total financial assistance to some of the largest financial institutions and corporations in the United States and throughout the world,” said Sanders. “This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you’re-on-your-own individualism for everyone else.”

    *(I’ve seen elsewhere the “loan” amount nearer to $21 trillion.)

    Among the investigation’s key findings is that the Fed unilaterally provided trillions of dollars in financial assistance to foreign banks and corporations from South Korea to Scotland, according to the GAO report. “No agency of the United States government should be allowed to bailout a foreign bank or corporation without the direct approval of Congress and the president,” Sanders said.

    The non-partisan, investigative arm of Congress also determined that the Fed lacks a comprehensive system to deal with conflicts of interest, despite the serious potential for abuse. In fact, according to the report, the Fed provided conflict of interest waivers to employees and private contractors so they could keep investments in the same financial institutions and corporations that were given emergency loans.

    For example, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase served on the New York Fed’s board of directors at the same time that his bank received more than $390 billion in financial assistance from the Fed. Moreover, JP Morgan Chase served as one of the clearing banks for the Fed’s emergency lending programs.

    https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/the-fed-audit/

    If I remember, many huge bonuses were awarded.
    Daily audit the Fed. Daily hangings of Fed officials.
    Actually, nationalize, then atomize, then good bye.

    5ds

  820. Ho hum. Gotta get something going, I guess.

    Israel behind gas pipeline blasts in Iran: Report
    Israel was reportedly behind attacks on two major gas pipelines in Iran this week, the New York Times is reporting, citing two officials from Western countries.

    Saeed Aghili, the manager of Iran’s gas network control centre, told Iranian state television on Wednesday that a “sabotage and terrorist” action caused explosions along several areas of one of its pipelines.

  821. @Truth Vigilante

    The NeverTrumper Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote to me:

    [Dave] The Fed creates high-powered money out of thin air and uses it to buy securities — traditionally, though not always, US Treasuries. If the Fed makes a profit, it goes back to the US Treasury.

    [The NeverTrumper} Fizzy-cyst Dovid, there’s much you [conveniently] leave out of your little rant about the ZOG owned Federal Reserve.
    First of all I’ve never once heard you say that the Fed is owned by a cartel of depraved Talmudic misfits (aka ZOG), although this is on the public record and no one disputes it.

    Well… I dispute it! I dispute that there is such a thing as ZOG: I think this is just a fantasy, a PsyOp used by Feds like you to distract people from the very real crimes being carried out by the US regime.

    Most people do not dispute your allegation because most people have never heard the allegation: i.e., most Americans have never heard of “ZOG.” And if they did, most would just laugh and go on their way and not bother to dispute it. Disputing insane people, as I am proving here with some of you, is not productive.

    It’s like saying that most people do not dispute that you are a Fed. Certainly true, since most people have never heard of you.

    And of course you actually are a Fed!

    In any case, I am a very, very harsh critic of the Fed: I have advocated its abolition for over fifty years.

    Anyone can click on my name and see me attacking the Fed again and again and again and again.

    I note that in your long post, to which I am here replying, you do not attack anything I actually said.

    For example, you wrote:

    Some of you might be thinking that these loans were made with freshly conjured U.S dollars from the Fed, so it’s not like taxes were increased or it came directly out of their pockets.
    But what they miss is that EVERY FRESHLY PRINTED/DIGITALLY CREATED USD THAT COMES INTO EXISTENCE, REDUCES THE PURCHASING POWER OF THOSE DOLLARS ALREADY IN CIRCULATION.

    That is quite certainly true, and anyone who bothers to read my posts above can see me making the same point.

    What I was in fact objecting to was the two following claims by Rurik the Fed:

    His claim that what the Fed does is “loan America’s money back to the American people ~ at intere$t”

    Rurik the Fed’s statement: “I think the key is if you’re [sic] treasury is issuing paper money to stimulate the economy, for instance, then if the treasury is being operated for the benefit of the people using the currency, then it’s not as bad.”

    Both of Rurik the Fed’s statements are false: the Fed does not “loan America’s money back to the American people ~ at intere$t”. As you correctly indicate, the Fed creates money out of thin air.

    Nor is it true that it would be not so bad “if you’re [sic] treasury is issuing paper money to stimulate the economy”, as you clearly know, such issuance of paper money to “stimulate the economy” leads to asset bubbles in the capital markets, which inevitably pop, and also to price inflation.

    I know you understand this: Rurik the Fed does not.

    To not put too fine a point on it, Rurik the Fed is stupid, incredibly, deliciously stupid, as the quotes by him to which I keep responding prove.

    He is truly a rare specimen.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  822. @Truth Vigilante

    The NeverTrumper Truth Vigilante wrote to Rurik the Fed:

    There is near unanimity among the honest UR contributors (both those posting comments and those well respected and well researched individuals that submit articles like Dr Kevin Barrett, Laurent Guyenot and countless others), that the WTC towers and Bldg 7 were brought down in controlled demolitions.

    “Well respected” by whom?????

    Laurent Guyenot is a complete nutjob who thinks the period known as the Middle Ages did not actually occur! Four words to refute this crack-pot: dendrochronology and radiometric dating.

    Laurent Guyenot is actually more insane than Young Earth Creationists. YECs at least concede that Julius Caesar was a real human being who died over two thousand years ago. But not crazy Laurent Guyenot — see here for example:

    Among clues that the ancient Roman Empire, as we picture it (with the appearance it has in Ridley Scott’s film Gladiator, for example) belonged to the category of Middle Age and/or early Renaissance fiction, I have mentioned the name Caesar, supposedly the nickname—of unknown meaning—of a Roman general, that became synonymous with “emperor” although Julius Caesar was never emperor.

    Do you understand how insane this is???

    Well, of course, you do — because you do not really believe any of the nonsense you spout!

    It is all just a PsyOp — you are spouting all these lies to distract people from the very real crimes being committed today by the US regime.

    Because you are a Fed.

    You appeal to “near unanimity among the honest UR contributors” as if that is a plus.

    Well, there is near unanimity among YECs that the earth is less than ten thousand years old.

    And there is near unanimity among high-level Scientologists that the sad fate of humanity is due to the crimes of Xenu seventy-five million years ago, the “thetans” and all that (I hear that this deep truth is too, well, deep for the low-level Scientologists).

    Because, after all, YECs and Scientologists are all quite nuts.

    Just as all the unz.com contributors to whom you appeal are indeed clinically insane.

    I note that there are quite a few commenters here, not just me, who have indeed refuted the nonsense you and your friends peddle about 9/11.

    And indeed, you can’t agree among yourselves: the planes-were-holograms guys despise the no-one-ever-saw-planes guys; The nuclear-explosion guys treat with contempt the conventional-explosive guys.

    And the amazing thing is that you all assume that all of us who do not drink your Kool-Aid really do know the Truth you proclaim but are just denying it for some nefarious reason!

    And yet, and yet… you do surely know that most Americans do not believe your bizarre fantasies.

    ‘Tis a puzzlement.

    It’s typical cult behavior, of course: I have run into YECs who truly have trouble believing that the overwhelming majority of educated people do not believe in Young Earth Creationism, even though, at some level, they do know this is true — for example, they spend considerable effort denigrating those of us who know the truth about the geological time scale.

    Makes no sense.

    But that’s psychopathology for you.

    Most people just give up on all you guys after a brief interaction. But I am fascinated by psychopathology.

    And I view all of you as an extremely rich vein, a veritable gold mine, of psychoses!

    But of course you already know all this.

    Because you do not really believe in the lies.

    You are just using this as a PsyOp to distract people from what you and your fellow thugs are doing to the world.

    Because you are a Fed.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  823. geokat62 says:

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  824. bjondo says:

    HIAS Congratulates Board Member Alejandro Mayorkas on DHS Nomination

    https://hias.org/statements/hias-congratulates-board-member-alejandro-mayorkas-dhs-nomination/

    Who We Are
    Drawing on our Jewish values and history, HIAS stands for a world in which refugees find welcome, safety, and opportunity.

    https://hias.org/who/

    Today we aggressively work to destroy America.

    Impeachment not enough.

    5ds

    • Replies: @bjondo
  825. bjondo says:
    @bjondo

    Forgot to ask, is Mayorkas and ilk guilty of a hate crime?

    Are Mayorkas, Blinken, Nuland, Israel driven by hate – Gaza, Ukraine, US borders?

    Erect the gallows.

    5ds

  826. The Master Race in action.

    Clever, clever, clever: Israel sends fake texts purporting to be from UNRWA, announcing food distributions. When the starving untermenschen show up at the distribution points, the Israelis shell them.

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/investigation-israeli-booby-traps-and-ambushes-target-starving-gazans/

    This is what we fund, support, and applaud.

  827. @PhysicistDave

    Hey Davey. I was reading through some of your comments here and saw your references to your columns for the Stanford Daily back in 1979 when you were a physics graduate student. Your writings are most impressive. You truly have an extraordinary breadth of knowledge. I have never known any scientists with the breadth of knowledge and even curiosity that you seem to have for a very wide range of topics outside of your profession. So I tip my hat to you. You really are a brilliant and ingenious man.

    It would be nice if you could be a little bit less belligerent towards your interlocutors here. I’m not sure why you spend so much time here. I think this site is a place in cyberspace for frustrated intellectually mediocre losers who have been left behind by the grifter society we live in. I can’t understand why you want to associate with people like us.

    I went to church this morning and saw a book in the bookstore that made me think of you. It was a collection of quotes from all sorts of famous Christian apologists. One of them was from a man named Moreland who’s some kind of Christian philosopher big shot at Biola University in Los Angeles. He said that God never forces people to believe in him because that would violate their freedom of Will and freedom of intellect. God gives people the freedom to choose to say no to him because that’s God’s way of respecting us. But then I immediately thought of the vicious thing I said about your burning in hell forever and how the rest of us would enjoy it and I thought you cannot say that it’s a sign of respect to allow a person to say no to whatever you are offering only to end up torturing them for eternity for making that choice.

    That gave me a very tiny glimmer of understanding why you hate Christianity and consider it to be a lie. What this person Moreland claimed is horribly and transparently false. Namely that God allows us to reject whatever Christians think he’s offering us out of respect for us only to go ahead and punish and torture us eternally for making that negative choice. There’s no way anyone could characterize that kind of behavior as respect.

    The thing is, the non-religious secular people that I grew up around at Stanford and later Harvard don’t strike me as particularly admirable. I think whether you’re religious or you’re an atheist you still will use cunning to promote your own selfish interests over those of others you perceive as your rivals. I don’t really see any escape from the ugly human reality. As I have told my therapist, I think at root human beings are sex crazed mass murderers. And religion philosophy politics metaphysics spirituality whatever you want to call it simply is a desperate effort to put some kind of constraint on the raw psychopathy of humanity.

    At any rate I apologize to you. You are very intelligent extremely articulate very well read person far more than I am and I have no right to denigrate you. And I do intend to stay off of this site because as you have written it’s not good for me and I’m not good for it.

    May the universe irradiate you with healthy cosmic rays.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  828. Wild Man says:
    @PhysicistDave

    I believe long prior, when I was discussing the concept of certainty with you, in terms relative to ontological limits/limitlessness, you had claimed you are a dualist. I didn’t realize back then (if I recall correctly) that you also claim to be an atheist (which is different than ‘agnostic’, I note), as well. I don’t get it. How does one reconcile the physical cause/effect notions of modern physics, with a dualism that as such will bring in nonphysical notions, that then, one would think, should automatically, by logic, render the atheist claim, as depending on far more certainty than is available, … and instead, as such, the claim should be clarified as ‘agnostic’?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  829. @Wild Man

    Wild Man wrote to me:

    I believe long prior, when I was discussing the concept of certainty with you, in terms relative to ontological limits/limitlessness, you had claimed you are a dualist.

    Nope — you misremember.

    I have said repeatedly that I am not a naive materialist — specifically, I do not think that physics as currently understood is sufficient to explain consciousness.

    That does not mean I am a dualist, though I do think that classical Cartesian dualism is not quite as crazy as naive materialism.

    I just do not know the connection between the physical wold and consciousness, nor do I think anyone else (yet) knows.

    WM also asked:

    How does one reconcile the physical cause/effect notions of modern physics, with a dualism that as such will bring in nonphysical notions, that then, one would think, should automatically, by logic, render the atheist claim, as depending on far more certainty than is available, … and instead, as such, the claim should be clarified as ‘agnostic’?

    I think current physics is incomplete — if you know anything about the debates about the meaning of quantum mechanics, now going back almost a hundred years, I think you will see why it is more than plausible that current physics is incomplete.

    Lots of physicists today think the same thing — indeed, most significantly, Einstein was very outspoken on the point. See here for a classic, and very readable, statement by a Nobel laureate in physics of the problem — I think he is right.

    As to whether this contradicts my being an atheist…

    Well, an atheist is someone who thinks that no god exists. I think that no god exists.

    That makes me an atheist.

    I think you may be interpreting the word “atheist” in a broader sense — e.g., to make it equivalent to naive materialist.

    That is not what the word usually means.

    The word “atheist,” as used by most self-proclaimed atheists, also does not mean “I have a dogmatic, unshakable faith that no god exists!” It would indeed be odd for atheists to substitute an atheist dogma for religious dogmas!

    Even the outspoken atheist Richard Dawkins has stated that he agrees that it possible that some sort of god exists. He merely thinks it is unlikely.

    I agree.

    Now, if we are dealing with a specific religion — literalist Old Testament Judaism, fundamentalist Christianity, etc. — we can be more definite. The Creation story in Genesis 1 is not literally true: I would risk my life on it. Similarly, for the New Testament — that is actually logically certain, since there are part of the New Testament that contradict other parts.

    So, some specific religions are definitely false.

    But is it possible that some sort of god exists? I doubt it — the evidence is against it.

    But of course I might be wrong. Life is like that, you know.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @aesop
    , @Wild Man
  830. @Michael Korn

    Michael Korn wrote to me:

    That gave me a very tiny glimmer of understanding why you hate Christianity and consider it to be a lie. What this person Moreland claimed is horribly and transparently false. Namely that God allows us to reject whatever Christians think he’s offering us out of respect for us only to go ahead and punish and torture us eternally for making that negative choice. There’s no way anyone could characterize that kind of behavior as respect.

    Well, no — that is not why I consider Christianity to be a lie.

    As I have said repeatedly above, there are multiple places in the New Testament in which Jesus says that the End Times are imminent and, specifically, that some of the people hearing him speak would still be alive to witness the Apocalypse and Second Coming: for example Mt. 24:

    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

    33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

    34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. [empahsis added]

    But, of course, that generation has indeed passed away, and yet the stars have not yet fallen down from heaven or any of the rest of that silliness.

    Similarly, see Mark 9:

    And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. [emphasis added]

    But of course everyone he was speaking to did indeed “taste of death” without seeing “the kingdom of God come with power.”

    If the New Testament is at all accurate in presenting the teachings of Jesus, he was deeply and profoundly delusional.

    According to the New Testament, Jesus of Nazareth was a psycho.

    That is why I think Christianity is a lie.

    This was of course quite obvious by, say 200 AD, and ever since Christians have gone through enormous contortions to explain this away.

    But they can’t.

    There are, of course, multiple other contradictions within the New Testament.

    But the dramatic failures of Jesus’ predictions of the End Times are sufficient: Jesus of Nazareth was a failed, delusional apocalyptic prophet according to the Gospels themselves.

    What I do find quite amazing is that many Christians are well aware of this fact. Yet, they nonetheless continue to claim to believe that this poor psycho really is God Incarnate.

    Why on earth do they continue with this travesty?

    Well… perhaps you can tell me.

    I know that some of them know the truth: several members of the clergy whom I have known have admitted to me that they are knowingly lying to their congregations. And this has been well-documented: see Rev. Jack Good’s book The Dishonest Church or the second edition of Dennett’s Caught in the Pulpit: Leaving Belief Behind.

    So, are all Christians lying? Is Christianity just a pretend game like the lies most American adults tell their kids about Santa (I didn’t, of course)?

    You tell me.

    • Replies: @Anon
  831. @PhysicistDave

    Fizzy-cyst Dovid writes in an earlier comment:

    I note that there are quite a few commenters here, not just me, who have indeed refuted the nonsense you and your friends peddle about 9/11.

    You claim there are ‘quite a few’ of these commenters, yet you CAN’T NAME A SINGLE ONE OF THEM who is known to have integrity.
    Meanwhile, I have had many an exchange with one particular individual in the pages of UR, and he is widely known and respected as a truthful individual. His handle is Durruti and this is his comment posted in the last 24 hours (click on the link below):

    https://www.unz.com/rpaul/tucker-slayed-the-mainstream-media-dragon/#comment-6423517

    In particular, watch the video contained in that comment, as Prof. Leroy Hulsey (a highly respected academic with international recognition), speaks about the Finite Element Analysis that he and his team of EXPERTS conducted that proved that Building 7 did not collapse due to fire during the 9/11 False Flag attack (as you and the corrupt minions of ZOG claim).

    SUMMARY: Those with academic standing who are not beholden to ZOG (ie: not you Dovid), are unanimous that the WTC towers and Building 7, were brought down in controlled demolitions* on the day of 9/11.
    (*Not that we needed to be told that, as we saw with our own eyes that they were blown up).

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  832. aesop says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Wow, wow, wow….

    Though I disagree with Dave Miller on almost all his political/social positions I happen to be in full agreement on many of his philosophical/metaphysical points.

    I am not a naive materialist — specifically, I do not think that physics as currently understood is sufficient to explain consciousness.

    That does not mean I am a dualist, though I do think that classical Cartesian dualism is not quite as crazy as naive materialism.

    I just do not know the connection between the physical wold and consciousness, nor do I think anyone else (yet) knows.

    Ditto!

    I think current physics is incomplete — if you know anything about the debates about the meaning of quantum mechanics, now going back almost a hundred years, I think you will see why it is more than plausible that current physics is incomplete.

    Lots of physicists today think the same thing

    Yes, and there are interesting new hypothesis investigated:

    “Yet Once More”: The Double-Slit Experiment and Quantum Discontinuity

    Well, an atheist is someone who thinks that no god exists. I think that no god exists.

    That makes me an atheist.

    I think you may be interpreting the word “atheist” in a broader sense — e.g., to make it equivalent to naive materialist.

    That is not what the word usually means.

    Ditto!

    So, some specific religions are definitely false.

    But is it possible that some sort of god exists? I doubt it — the evidence is against it.

    Well… Then it could as well be Nick Bostrom’s Computer Simulation. 😀

  833. Anon[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Thank you for your reply.

    Davey Miller asked me:

    So, are all Christians lying? Is Christianity just a pretend game like the lies most American adults tell their kids about Santa (I didn’t, of course)?

    You tell me.

    I’ve tried to answer this before. To me this is the least significant objection to Christianity. But to repeat myself:

    Christians traditionally understood that Jesus would return in judgement over unbelieving Rome and Israel and then establish his church on their backs. This is exactly what happened when Rome burned to the ground in 64 AD, Jerusalem in 70 AD, and over the next three centuries Christianity became established as the Roman state religion. Quite a dramatic transformation. Similar to say Germany going from NAZI to the biggest supporter of Israel in Europe.

    Another approach is that the Book of Revelation, revealed to John who most consider the Apostle John but not all, represents Jesus’ return since it was a direct manifestation of his person to someone here on earth. If you recall from your childhood, Jesus also told John explicitly that he would not die until seeing the Lord’s return. So to my thinking these two explanations fit together.

    As for Santa, that also is NOT a lie. Santa stands for Saint Nicholas, the patron saint of children, whose spirit is channeled every Christmas season to bring joy to children and their parents around the world.

    Here are some explanations from the Christian Think Tank, whose creator is your sur-namesake, Glenn Miller:

    Good Question: “was Jesus a failed apocalyptic prophet that the embarrassed church had to re-work into something different”
    https://search.freefind.com/find.html?si=64437574&pid=r&n=0&_charset_=UTF-8&bcd=%C3%B7&query=second+coming+failed
    https://www.christian-thinktank.com/spinmequick1.html [part 1 0f 9]

    On…was Jesus mistaken about this 2nd Coming?
    https://www.christian-thinktank.com/qaim.html

    As for your broader Q as to why Christians believe all this, call it SHOCK AND AWE. Christians are shocked at the torture and abuse Jesus endured and then awed by his purported Resurrection from the dead only three days later. More fundamentally, they are in awe of all the miracles attendant upon his birth and life. I find it strange that you don’t object to the veracity of these things like turning water into wine, healing the sick, raising the dead to new life etc. If you call Jesus a failed prophet, then it seems you believe he really lived. So how do you explain the miracle stories? Or do you think the Gospel accounts about Jesus are fabrications? And if so, why did they include such a refutable item as his “failed” second coming prediction? Or do you assume the authors of the fabricated Gospels were simply too stupid to catch that obvious flaw in their narrative?

    For their part, the Jewish detractors of Christianity, at least in the ancient rabbinical texts, never doubted Jesus’ miracles, but attributed them to sorcery. They accept that he was crucified (and like Maimonides in his Letter to Yemen, parts iii, iv, xvii, exult over it) but dispute that he was Resurrected, saying either that the disciples stole the body (as is reported of their Jewish enemies in the Gospels) or that Rome simply discarded his body onto a trash heap, as they did with all crucified victims, where it was eaten by animals: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Epistle_to_Yemen/Complete

    Muslims accept the miracles of Jesus also, but say that God raised him to heaven — like Elijah in the fiery chariot — just before he was scheduled to be crucified and Judas, who looked like Jesus, was crucified in his place.

    My objection to Christianity has to do with the nature of the followers, especially in today’s America. These people are gullible fools, led by slick money-hungry pastors, who ingratiate themselves to Israel, who ignore the threat of Jewish power in our country, and who generally are woefully lacking in perception intelligence and understanding. Almost every issue of importance discussed at the Unz Review you can be sure, with very few exceptions, that American Christians are lined up on the wrong side of the issue, while their pastors are openly rooting for the enemies of truth and our social welfare and happiness.

    I don’t know how to explain it. Perhaps it’s like a movie. You can see an action film like Terminator, Matrix, or Equalizer, that present very heroic larger than life heroes. But the people sitting in the theater are mediocre fools, as much when they leave as when they enter. Maybe this is a good analogy for Christians: Jesus is an ethical Superstar that they love to exalt but they don’t come close to emulating his example. While they are almost totally impervious to the Truth that Jesus said he would impart to his followers via the Holy Spirit.

    So I find the portrait of Jesus in the Gospels persuasive. But I find his followers today repugnant. And that’s a conundrum I cannot figure out. As for you, your objections to the Gospels seem puerile and poorly thought out. You must clarify to yourself and to us if you think Jesus is:

    1. Wholly fictional, and the people who crafted his fictional narrative simply had poor editors who missed glaring flaws like your second coming prophecy.
    2. Historical, whose miracles were real but he fell flat on the finish line by falsely predicting his second coming. If this is your choice you will have to explain the significance of his Resurrection that he did correctly predict (the Sign of the Prophet Jonah).

    Your objections to Jesus sound more like an angry knee jerk reaction to some small part of his life and ministry that disappoints you. But it’s not logically compelling at all. More like a childish immature overreaction of a person ignorant of theology, the bible, and Christian history. Just like your model Daniel Dennett I guess.

    So in sum while I find many of your writings about myriad topics very compelling, that is not the case with your rants against Jesus, which I find tiresome, illogical, poorly reasoned, immature, and brimming with hostile emotionalism.

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @PhysicistDave
  834. Ron Unz says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Ron, especially for the benefit of readers that are new to UR, we all appreciate how you expose individuals like Patrick McNally…But surely now Ron, in light of all the brazen lies that Fizzy-cyst Dovid has posted in recent months, you must have come to the realisation that Fizzy-Dov is also in the employ of the ADL or the B’nai B’rith degenerates.

    Well, I’ve never met Dave Miller and since he spent most of his time on Steve Sailer threads, I was only slightly aware of him until a few months ago. But based upon everything I’ve seen, I’d say there’s a 99% chance he’s exactly whom he claims to be.

    After all, he uses his real name, he’s described his background in very considerable detail (with all his Caltech/Stanford statements totally consistent with my own knowledge), and he even linked to that controversial column about the Israel/Palestine conflict he’d published in the Stanford Daily forty-odd years ago that may have doomed his academic career.

    Just because you disagree with someone and get into bitter online disputes about the Federal Reserve and 9/11 doesn’t mean he’s an agent of the ADL.

    • Thanks: Mark G., PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  835. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Dr Peter McCullough:

    Autopsy studies have NOT confirmed SARS-CoV-2 causes myocarditis. This conflicts with the false govt narrative that the infection causes more myocarditis than the vaccine–NOT TRUE. mRNA vaccine myocarditis is common, severe, and fatal. @DrNoMask https://open.substack.com/pub/petermcculloughmd/p/autopsy-study-rules-out-myocarditis?r=14jb45&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

    https://t.me/C19ExpertChannel/3961

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  836. bjondo says:
    @Anon

    What you and many others find repugnant about Christians
    probably comes from mental disorder from accepting two
    books that are opposites and trying to make sense of them
    with the New infiltrated and cunningly altered to be Jew.

    Example, “Salvation from the Jews”.

    Not even close. Hell comes from the Jew. Atrocities from the OT.

    Get rid of the OT, half of the New, toss Scofield and ilk into sewer.

    A different world.

    5ds

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  837. @Truth Vigilante

    Our NeverTrumper Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote to me:

    You claim there are ‘quite a few’ of these commenters, yet you CAN’T NAME A SINGLE ONE OF THEM who is known to have integrity.

    “Known to have integrity”to whom????

    You have constantly and repeatedly lied about me — claiming that I am of Jewish descent — when you have no knowledge of my background at all. Your evidence? I happen to disagree with your crack-pot ideas about 9/11 and about the Jews supposedly controlling the world.

    Because of course anyone who disagrees with you on those points must be Jewish? Right?

    Not a single Gentile on the planet who disagrees with you on those points, right?

    As I keep saying, this is the sure sign of a psychotic cultist.

    I have, over the decades, known thousands of people in the real world, mainly Gentiles, a few Jews — relatives, friends, neighbors, co-workers, fellow students way back when, etc.

    Not a single one of those people has ever told me that he holds your views on 9/11 or on Jews ruling the world.

    And yet you insist that I must be a Jew because I hold the same views on those issues as the thousands of fellow Gentiles I have known.

    That is demented.

    But it is typical of cult psychoses.

    I have known countless cult members — e.g., Young Earth Creationists — who insist that, surely, everyone really agrees with them. Except, for some reason, most people claim otherwise.

    That is loony.

    But, isn’t it possible that you goofy 9/11 Truthers are right and all the rest of us are wrong?

    No, it is not possible, because you make your cases appealing to arguments that violate very basic principles of physics.

    I tried to explain this basic physics to all of you last summer, but I was just met with a wall of lies, hatred, and vituperation.

    So, I got sick of all of you and just gave up.

    Most of my fellow citizens are less tolerant than I am and they therefore decline to engage you at all.

    Because they all correctly recognize that you are psychotics. To a man.

    You want all of us to take you seriously? Then knock off the insanity that claims that all of us really agree with you and that, if we do not agree with you, that proves that all of us — billions of people! — must be Jews.

    Knock off the fake appeals to authority when you know that most people who actually have legitimate authority on these matters disagree with you. What do I mean be that? Well, you just wrote:

    Those with academic standing who are not beholden to ZOG (ie: not you Dovid),

    You simply dismiss all of those who really do have academic authority as “beholden to ZOG.”

    And so you can pretend that real authorities agree with you, by the simple trick of declaring that the vast majority who do not are “beholden to ZOG.”

    Really clever, eh?

    I could explain to you how you are misunderstanding basic principle of physics. If you were willing to listen.

    But I have zero intention of doing so to someone who simply lies and lies about me and who deluges me with tons of hatred and vituperation.

    You see, I have no need to take you seriously for the simple reason that almost no one else does take you seriously. Yes, yes, I know: other “respected” commenters here take you seriously. Respected by whom???

    Their fellow psychotics.

    As I have said, show me a half dozen tenured professors of physics at serious research universities that agree with you and I will consider taking you seriously.

    So far, you have Steve “Cold-Fusion” Jones. Who was kicked out of his university… because he was embarrassing them. In multiple ways.

    Yes, yes, I know — all of the tenured professors of physics at serious research universities are “beholden to ZOG.” Probably all secretly Jewish, right?

    Do you have any sense of how absurd you are?

    No, of course not, because that is what it means to be part of a cult.

    Or, more likely, a Fed.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  838. @Anon

    Michael Korn wrote to me:

    I’ve tried to answer this before. To me this is the least significant objection to Christianity. But to repeat myself:

    Christians traditionally understood that Jesus would return in judgement over unbelieving Rome and Israel and then establish his church on their backs. This is exactly what happened when Rome burned to the ground in 64 AD, Jerusalem in 70 AD, and over the next three centuries Christianity became established as the Roman state religion. Quite a dramatic transformation. Similar to say Germany going from NAZI to the biggest supporter of Israel in Europe.

    You really don’t understand that you have proven my point for me, do you?

    I quoted very specific, very straightforward words from the Gospels, supposedly spoken by Jesus, specifically from Matthew 24:

    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. [empahsis added]

    But, of course, that generation has indeed passed away, and yet the stars have not yet fallen down from heaven or any of the rest of that silliness: it did not happen.

    Your response (and, yes, a widespread Christina response)?

    To simply change the subject and point out that some other bad things did indeed happen — the fall of Jerusalem, etc.

    But what Jesus did predict simply did not happen.

    Jesus of Nazareth was a delusional nutjob.

    Why can’t you and other Christians admit this obvious fact?

    Mikey also asked me:

    I find it strange that you don’t object to the veracity of these things like turning water into wine, healing the sick, raising the dead to new life etc. If you call Jesus a failed prophet, then it seems you believe he really lived. So how do you explain the miracle stories? Or do you think the Gospel accounts about Jesus are fabrications? And if so, why did they include such a refutable item as his “failed” second coming prediction? Or do you assume the authors of the fabricated Gospels were simply too stupid to catch that obvious flaw in their narrative?

    Don’t you claim to be a graduate of one of the Ivies? Do you really not know what all atheists think about the miracle stories in the Gospels?

    Read Hume on miracles: what is more likely — that there were multiple, unprecedented violations of the laws of nature, violations that are never observed today… or that somebody lied?

    Hint: all of us run across people lying, all the time, alas.

    Miracles, not so much.

    Why did the Evangelists leave in the errors predicting the Second Coming? Scholars generally date the Gospels to the late first century: at that time, some people who heard Jesus preach would indeed still have been alive. The prophecy, at that time, had not yet been falsified.

    Now, nineteen centuries later, if obviously has been falsified.

    Now, if there were irrefutable evidence that the Gospels were reliable…

    But the exact opposite is the case. None of the Evangelists actually claim to be eyewitnesses. And, of course, they contradict each other, again and again and again. To take just one example: the genealogies in Matthew and Luke wildly contradict each other. And the mountain from which all the kingdoms of the world can be viewed in Matthew 4 does not exist.

    And on and on and on.

    The Gospels are less believable than the Harry Potter books — which are, at least, fairly internally consistent.

    Mikey also wrote:

    As for you, your objections to the Gospels seem puerile and poorly thought out. You must clarify to yourself and to us if you think Jesus is:

    1. Wholly fictional, and the people who crafted his fictional narrative simply had poor editors who missed glaring flaws like your second coming prophecy.
    2. Historical, whose miracles were real but he fell flat on the finish line by falsely predicting his second coming. If this is your choice you will have to explain the significance of his Resurrection that he did correctly predict (the Sign of the Prophet Jonah).

    You’re just being silly.

    There is an obvious third alternative: the Gospels have a small amount of true information and a huge amount of fabrications and lies.

    Like Homer’s tales of the Trojan Wars. There really was a Troy, you know. But there was no Polyphemus, Circe, etc.

    Did Jesus actually exist? The topic is still debated, but I suspect he did.

    Are the stories about him true? They can’t be — they are mutually contradictory.

    Was he a failed apocalyptic prophet? Well, that is the common thread running through the New Testament, including the Pauline Epistles.

    If Jesus wasn’t that, what was he? A fictional creation, I suppose.

    Mikey also wrote:

    Your objections to Jesus sound more like an angry knee jerk reaction to some small part of his life and ministry that disappoints you. But it’s not logically compelling at all. More like a childish immature overreaction of a person ignorant of theology, the bible, and Christian history.

    As you always do, you are just making a fool of yourself.

    Again, I quoted very clear, very straightforward words from the Gospels. Those predictions have turned out to be false.

    It is indeed childishly immature of you to refuse to face that reality.

    Mikey also wrote:

    As for Santa, that also is NOT a lie. Santa stands for Saint Nicholas, the patron saint of children, whose spirit is channeled every Christmas season to bring joy to children and their parents around the world.

    Well… I guess we have converted you to atheism then!

    For all atheists agree that the supposed Christ who was God Incarnate is indeed precisely as real as Santa!

    The Virgin Birth? Of course, Mary got pregnant the old-fashioned way, but the whole Virgin Birth story was just a poetic way of saying that Jesus was somehow the “Son” of God.

    The Resurrection? Again, poetry: Jesus’ teaching lived on in the Apostles’ hearts, and so, poetically speaking, they said he was resurrected.

    Even though his body still lay a moldering in the grave.

    See? I’ve converted you — Christ = Santa.

    Welcome to the atheist club!

    You had said earlier:

    The thing is, the non-religious secular people that I grew up around at Stanford and later Harvard don’t strike me as particularly admirable.

    Yes, because they valued truth more than your desires and feelings.

    Niven and Pournelle, in their retelling of The Inferno, emphasized that the overarching sin of modern times is solipsism. And you are the best exemplar of solipsism I think I have ever run across.

    You focus on what you find comforting or hopeful or engaging or whatever.

    But you are repelled by the idea of coldly and unemotionally looking at the cold, hard evidence and trying to ascertain what the universe is really like.

    You want the universe to accommodate your feelings. Solipsism.

    The universe does not care.

    Again, I quoted very clear and straightforward predictions from Jesus from the New Testament. Those predictions have turned out to be false.

    QED.

    Whether I am hateful, whether your feelings are heart-felt… none of that changes the facts of reality.

    The world is what it is.

    And in the cold, harsh reality of the real wold, Jesus of Nazareth, if he lived at all, was a delusional, failed apocalyptic nutjob.

    And the universe simply does not care about you.

    At all.

    That is the real world.

    Your family, whom you so disdain, accepted that.

    You might try following their example.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @MIchael Korn
    , @Brás Cubas
  839. @bjondo

    bjondo wrote to Michael Korn:

    What you and many others find repugnant about Christians probably comes from mental disorder from accepting two books that are opposites and trying to make sense of them with the New infiltrated and cunningly altered to be Jew.

    Judaism in its Old Testament form and, especially, its Hellenistic-Roman form was heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism: Paradise, the Final Judgment, Hell, Satan as a counterpoise to God (like Ahriman to Ahura Mazda), etc.

    And Christianity was basically a Hellenistic mystery religion built on a rather flimsy Jewish base, just as the Isis cult was loosely based on Egyptian religion. And, of course, the whole “Word of God” thing (“Logos”) is based on some sort of vulgar Platonism.

    Scholars can go on and on about all this.

    None of it is really surprising: it’s just like saying that K-Pop is influenced by American pop music which is influenced by Black music as well as the “British invasion,” etc.

    I.e., this is just what anyone familiar with history would expect: cultures borrow from each other, extensively, and then alter and distort the borrowings. All quite fascinating for those of us interested in the history of human culture.

    But of course many Christians and Jews cannot admit these influences, because it would then become obvious that their religions are not the religion of the One True God but are merely human constructs like Zoroastrianism or the Isis cult.

    Perhaps someday the human race will grow up.

  840. @Ron Unz

    But based upon everything I’ve seen, I’d say there’s a 99% chance he [Fizzy-cyst Dovid] is exactly whom he claims to be.

    I haven’t questioned that his name is actually Dovid Miller.
    He may even be a graduate of Stepford [and Sons] university as he claims.

    But what I question is his INTEGRITY. That someone like Dovid Miller would tell such scurrilous lies about the collapse of those buildings on 9/11, suggests to me that this is a man devoid of morality, that he’ll say and do anything on behalf of his Talmudic benefactors.

    Surely Ron, being as well versed as you are in the specifics pertaining to the events of 9/11, surely you must suspect that anyone with even a rudimentary grasp of physics, that advocates for the preposterous hypothesis that the WTC towers and Building 7 came down in a fire induced gravity collapse as the corrupt USG/NIST does, has to be affiliated with the ADL/B’nai B’rith/or directly with ZOG central?

    SUMMARY: I know you value the opinion of Dr Kevin Barrett – as we all do.
    Well, earlier in this thread Fizzy-cyst Dovid effectively said Kevin Barrett was a fool/fraud/ignorant, or words to that effect.

    So here is my proposition. Let’s arrange a debate whereby Physicist Dovid takes on Kevin Barrett on the subject of the collapse of the WTC towers and Building 7.
    OR, if you prefer, contact one of the esteemed physicists with integrity at AE911Truth.org and get them to debate Fizzy-Dov, so that we have like-for-like credentials?

    (That way Dovid Miller won’t use his default come back of: ‘I – like Tony Fauci – am the ‘science’. The person I’m debating is not a Fizzy-cyst. Only I Dovid Miller am a qualified CYST, and thus no one has the right to question me’.

    I suspect this could become one of the ALL TIME viewed/commented-on threads that UR has ever featured.
    What have you got to lose Ron? Are you up for it?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @PhysicistDave
  841. @geokat62

    Geokat, why does it not surprise me that you are at the forefront among UR contributors in the comments section that won’t let go of this issue, and keeps reminding us all of the trail of destruction that’s been left in the wake of the Covid Psyop and the forced ‘vaccinations’ of the toxic clot shots that have killed millions worldwide?

    Those new to UR should take note that Geokat62 is one of the all time stand-out truth tellers to grace the pages of this webzine. When he tells you something you can take it to the bank – he is THAT good.
    His courage and fearlessness in taking on the big issues has few rivals. I have learnt much from him over the years and am thankful for being fortunate enough to cross paths with him.
    Meanwhile, let’s look at this Russel Brand video from a few days ago titled ‘Is THIS Why Excess Deaths Are EXPLODING?!’:

    CONCLUSION: Ron Unz, if you’re reading this, what’s your take on the catastrophic increases in excess All Cause Mortality in the heavily vaxxed countries?
    I mean, I know you agree that the latter strains of Covid, although more contagious, are no more lethal than the common cold.

    So, if it’s not Covid that’s killing people, what is it? Many of us would be curious to hear your explanation for this.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  842. @PhysicistDave

    Fizzy-cyst Dovid claimed there were ‘quite a few’ commenters in the pages of UR that agreed with his asinine claim that the WTC towers and Bldg 7 came down in a fire induced gravity collapse during the 9/11 False Flag.

    Other than the known disinfo peddler Wizard of ZOG, I asked Dovid Miller to name one of them, just ONE EFF’N INDIVIDUAL, who agrees with him.
    Then, after a 700 word response from Dovid, I could not find a single person who he’d nominated.
    UR readers, can you help me here? Is there something I missed?

    Thus is CLASSIC ZOG DEFLECTION from Fizzy-cyst Dovid.
    You see, when that deceitful subset of Jewry (ie: that minority of them that give other Jews a bad name), get caught out, they change the topic and go off on a tangent.

    Dovid Miller goes on to write:

    I have, over the decades, known THOUSANDS of people in the real world, mainly Gentiles, a few Jews — relatives, friends, neighbors, co-workers, fellow students way back when, etc.

    Not a single one of those people has ever told me that he holds your views on 9/11 or on Jews ruling the world.

    As the saying goes: ‘Talmudists of a feather stick together’.
    With that in mind, it is not surprising that your close associates in your local synagogue and Judeo-Masonic lodge think like you do, and always go out of their way to defend the (((tribe))).
    To the extent that you know Gentiles who don’t dispute the official ZOG dictated narrative on 9/11, HOW THE EFF do you know what their innermost thoughts are on this subject?
    Those that have been unfortunate to have crossed paths with you or worked with you, know you’re a foaming-at-the-mouth apologist for ZOG malfeasance, or at least they’ve been given a heads up by others who know the real Dovid and have told them not to discuss these matters with you, lest you report them to the ADL.
    So these individuals keep their beliefs to themselves on that subject.

    First of all Dovid, you claim to be a Libertarian. Well then, you’ll have a lot of respect for Lew Rockwell, a personal long time CLOSE FRIEND of Murray Rothbard (and one of the greatest living Libertarians), who featured this article on his website a few years ago:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/01/paul-craig-roberts/a-majority-of-americans-do-not-believe-the-official-9-11-story/

    That’s right, the MAJORITY of Americans do not believe the official [ZOG dictated] narrative on 9/11.
    Yet SOMEHOW we’re supposed to believe that none of the thousands* of people you’ve encountered in your life doubted the official account?

    This is proof that you’re a LYING HOUND (not that observant UR readers hadn’t already noticed).

    Dovid also writes:

    Yes, yes, I know — all of the tenured professors of physics at serious research universities are “beholden to ZOG.” Probably all secretly Jewish, right?

    ZOG controls academia in the western world. We’ve all seen what happened to Norman Finkelstein and our own Dr Kevin Barrett, for daring to speak against ZOG’s narrative on any matter.
    There are NUMEROUS other examples I could give as well.
    These individuals are UNABLE TO GET WORK AT ANY TERTIARY INSTITUTION IN THE WESTERN WORLD – because ZOG central decreed that they are never to be reemployed.

    Kevin Barrett has stated himself that he sacrificed $2 million of projected future income by telling the truth about 9/11.
    So, whether said tenured professors are Gentiles or not, is inconsequential. They risk having their careers destroyed by coming out and telling the truth.
    You know this Dovid – that’s why you pull out this trick out of your Jewish playbook, and claim that because few come out publicly, that there must be no substance to the allegation.

    The fact is that these academics are SCARED. Just as most doctors are scared about coming out publicly and stating that the Covid ‘vaccines’ are the most LETHAL PHARMACEUTICAL PRODUCTS IN HUMAN HISTORY – by at least two orders of magnitude.
    They saw what happened to their colleagues that told the truth, how they lost their licences to practise.
    Seeing as they had mortgages and student loans to repay, wives to kep happy by giving them the lavish lifestyle that they’re accustomed to (or risk divorce/marital disharmony), they were frightened of the consequences.
    Because carries a pretty big stick which they’re not afraid to use.
    Look what they did to the brave Jewish woman (and National Academy of Science medal recipient) Lynn Margulis for speaking the truth about 9/11. They eff’n well killed her.

    CONCLUSION: I do not make physical threats against anyone and don’t condone violence.
    But you’ll be sorry you ever crossed paths with me, my Ashkenazi ‘friend’.
    I won’t follow you around from one UR thread to another and I certainly won’t be venturing to the ‘Enclave of Imbecility’ (aka the Steve Sailer threads), which I know you frequent, along with other like minded Muppets and apologists for Malevolent International Jewry).

    But, if you happen to be on a UR thread that I’m looking at, you can be sure I will be alerting others to your mendacious ways, and exposing you for the liar that you are.
    You can bet on that.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  843. geokat62 says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Thx, TV. I really appreciate your kind words.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  844. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    So here is my proposition. Let’s arrange a debate whereby Physicist Dovid takes on Kevin Barrett on the subject of the collapse of the WTC towers and Building 7.

    Superb idea. But there must be a firm agreement to avoid scurrilous language and vituperation. I know KB would abide by this but not sure the other party.

  845. @PhysicistDave

    Davey the Satanist writes:

    And the universe simply does not care about you.
    At all.
    That is the real world.
    Your family, whom you so disdain, accepted that.
    You might try following their example.

    You know nothing about my family. Their lives are far from happy or exemplary in any measure. Your Sanford and Son mentor at SLAC’s daughter has an eating disorder, weighs 400 lbs, and absurdly runs one of the national health care organizations. Talk about the blind leading the blind into the ditch!

    All the problems you pretend to lament in our society are caused by people like you, who disdain the Creator, throw his owner’s manual of rules and regulations for a happy and successful life into the trash, encourage people to embrace the delusion of freedom and hedonism, and then shed crocodile tears when things go to hell.

    You are a satanist plain and simple. Accursed from the root up and contaminating everyone who has the misfortune to engage with you. You are a destroyer of happiness, heroism, hope, and humility. We can be sure you yourself are desperately unhappy or else you would not spend all your time trolling this site preying on the sincere seekers of truth.

    You are a true student of Stanford, which forms the letters in Hebrew Satan Rodef — Satan in pursuit.

    We pray that Jesus will turn your heart from wickedness and silence your lying lips from polluting our hearts minds and souls.

  846. @MIchael Korn

    Mev, when you wrote ‘Your Sanford and Son mentor … ‘ in a response to Fizzy-cyst Dovid, it reminded me of the U.S spin off from the British sitcom.

    Anyway, I messed up in my comment # 858 when I wrote that Fizzy Dov was a graduate of Stepford and Sons (I mixed it up with the Stepford Wives movie).
    There was a British sitcom in the early 70’s called Steptoe and Son, which was shown here in Australia and had some popularity.
    Then you Americans stole the idea from the Brits and made the U.S equivalent called Sanford and Son, that was also released Down Under, but was nowhere near as popular here.

    SUMMARY: What I should’ve said in my previous comment is that:
    ‘I don’t doubt that Fizzy-cyst Dovid is a graduate of Sanford and Son university, where he majored in Quantity Fizzics’.
    He regularly boasts about this, in between those times when he’s reminding us that, like his hero Tony Fauci, that he too is ‘The Science’, and should never be doubted.

    • Replies: @Anon
  847. @geokat62

    Geokat, seeing as you’re the squadron leader, as far as leading the charge to bring the collateral damage from the Covid Psyop to the attention of Ron Unz, I’d be pleased to be your wingman.

    To that end, I contribute this 7 min video, the latest offering from Jimmy Dore.
    It is titled ‘Young People Are Dying At STAGGERING Rates! w/ Dr. Pierre Kory’:

    Ron Unz, how much longer can you go on ignoring this mass cull of humanity?
    It’s time you revisited it – or got someone like Mike Whitney or other truth teller to submit an article that thoroughly investigates this catastrophe.

    • Thanks: geokat62
    • Replies: @geokat62
  848. geokat62 says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Ron Unz, how much longer can you go on ignoring this mass cull of humanity?
    It’s time you revisited it – or got someone like Mike Whitney or other truth teller to submit an article that thoroughly investigates this catastrophe.

    Great question and suggestion, TV.

    The evidence has become irrefutable. A top notch researcher on this topic is Sasha Latypova.

    Be sure to view this interview to the very end to get a better understanding on whether the key players involved in this nightmare were simply incompetent or whether there was malicious intent.

    After viewing the content of this interview, I’m sure no one will be willing to take another shot.

    P.S. Looking forward to your upcoming article, Ron.

    “Lead me in your truth” – An Interview with Sasha Latypova

    https://rumble.com/v4ebpp0-lead-me-in-your-truth-an-interview-with-sasha-latypova.html

    Description:

    Sasha Latypova holds a graduate degree in business from Dartmouth College and is a retired pharmaceutical industry, research and development executive with 25 years of experience in conducting clinical trials.

    In this episode, we discuss the following:

    [MORE]

    – Sasha did not work for a pharmaceutical company, she contracted to pharma companies. She conducted clinical trials in imaging, and later in cardiovascular safety monitoring. Most companies now outsource their clinical trials to contractors, like Sasha. So, Sasha was responsible for being in compliance to the regulators at all times, when conducting these trials. She is aware of all the regulations.

    – Sasha retired from her work in the pharmaceutical industry before the Covid19 period began. We discuss why she became interested in the Covid situation, both the early treatment and the new vaccines.

    – Sasha first became suspicious when the public health officials started to suppress hydroxychloroquine, as she had experience with this drug. They tried to smear this drug with cardiovascular arrythmia, which she was familiar with in her previous work. She knew for sure that hydroxychloroquine did not have that problem, especially when take for a short time frame, as it was for Covid.

    – She was the first to notice the batch variability of Covid vaccine adverse events in VAERS. Sasha collaborated with Craig Paardekooper on the website “How bad is my batch”. She knew right away that these products were not Good Manufacturing compliant. This was her conclusion by October 2021. She wrote letters to the CDC and FDA about this. Senator Johnson brought this data to the attention of the CDC and FDA also. The CDC and FDA never did anything.

    – At the end of 2021, Mike Yeadon sent Sasha a package of leaked documents from the EMA, about 800 pages worth, and a dozen emails between the regulators (EMA, MHRA, FDA). This package was actually leaked around Nov 30, 2020. It was clear from these documents, that this drug product was substandard, and the worse product she had ever seen. The bulk of the documents were from EMA regulators themselves.

    – Sasha tells us the number one thing that the regulators have to approve is the manufacturing. If you can’t manufacture, then safety and efficacy doesn’t matter. And yet all the scientists and doctors are focussing on safety and efficacy and no one is looking at manufacturing. The EMA documents showed evidence that the EMA regulators had raised 100 major objections to the approval of the Pfizer product.
    – An example of an objection. Pfizer had provided no evidence they were making the spike protein. And, we later learnt they faked the Western Blots, which was an assay to characterise the spike protein. It was a computer generated fake.

    – Sasha shows us the 3 drug approval pathways that are relevant to the approval of the vaccines in the USA. The normal FDA regulatory pathway for market approval. The Expanded Access Use pathway. The Emergency Use Authorisation pathway, and she explains the differences. There was a lot of confusion, and many people thought the Emergency Use Authorisation (EUA) was in fact the Expanded Use pathway, but they are very different.

    – The EUA comes under a brand new paragraph of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, called Paragraph 564.

    EUA countermeasures can only be issued when the HHS has declared a public health emergency. And they are designated as non investigational. And so none of the laws that normally apply to drugs apply to these countermeasures. EG No IRB (investigational review board), no informed consent for recipients, and good manufacturing practise is not enforced. The only criteria needed, is that the HHS secretary thinks they may be effective.

    – For an in depth explanation of the legal framework, there is a good video of Sasha and Katherine Watt (the US para legal who worked with Sasha), explaining all the legal codes that were put in place in the USA, in the years preceding 2020. Sasha explains it took 3 years to unravel all the legal codes around this.
    See reference below.

    – Sasha shows us the transcript of a meeting, in which Doran Fink (deputy director of Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) in the FDA, on Oct 22, 2020, stated that the FDA decided to use the EUA pathway rather then the expanded access use for approval of the Covid vaccines. And the reason was that expanded use required IRB and informed consent. That would add complexity. See Reference below.

    – Doran Fink is now at Moderna.

    – Sasha shows us the Pfizer timeline, showing the activity in terms of approvals etc from March 2020 through to Dec 2024. She points out that Doran Fink says they switched to EUA in Oct 2020, but she believes that in fact the switch happened in July 2020 as that is when Pfizer began mass producing the 30 million doses for the rollout. And, as we discuss, this was before phase 3 even started and before FDA approval of the product . That would have been illegal under IND.

    – In addition, the formula for the product was changed 5/6 times during the phase 3 trial ie they changed which drug they were testing. This was found in the 1100 page protocol document.

    – The FDA issued a BLA (Biologics License Application) in August 2021. So everyone thought the Pfizer vaccine was fully approved. But Sasha shows us the BLA letter, and it references the 2 Pfizer clinical trials, the Phase1/2 trial and the phase 3 trial, which were NOT clinical trials. So the BLA is fake, its illegal and the FDA is certifying the fraud. That’s why there are 2 products, but in the USA they never shipped the Comirnaty product , only the EUA product (Biontech).

    – Sasha explains that as long as the PREP Act is in place, these products “will not be deemed adulterated or misbranded”, and shows us the excerpt from the US code. This is why there is no enforcement of good manufacturing practise.

    – We discuss the involvement of the US Department of Defence. The DOD is the CEO of the operation , is totally in charge, and HHS has only an advisory role. The money all came from the DOD.

    – Sasha reveals that she has an audio of a discussion at a pharma company regarding a phone call that they received on Feb 4, 2020 from DOD. The DOD told them on that day, to switch from pan influenza (they were part of the P3 consortium) to Covid as Covid had been classified as a national security threat. See references.

    – What is the Pandemic Preparedness Program (P3), which was started in 2017. The person in charge of P3 is Colonel Matt Hepburn, and he is the mastermind. He has published TED talks on P3, and has claimed we can predict viruses and we will make vaccines in hours.

    – We ask Sasha who she thinks is behind the release of the virus and the injections.

    Websites referenced in the Interview;

    – Sasha Latypova’s Substack, which is called Due Diligence and Art.

    https://sashalatypova.substack.com

    – Video discussion between Katherine Watt and Sasha Latypova explaining the US Legal codes and the forensic work done by Katherine to uncover how the EUA was created. https://rumble.com/v3udbi4-sasha-latypova-and-katherine-watt-talking-about-non-regulation-of-non-medic.html

    -Doran Fink at VRBPAC meeting Oct 22, 2020. The entire transcript is here. Go to page 203 to see the answer by Doran Fink.

    https://www.fda.gov/media/143982/download

    – A good place for new readers to start. A summary of Everything – End 2023.
    https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/summary-of-everything-and-quick-links

    – Audio Leak from pharma company regarding Feb 4, 2020 call from DOD.
    https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/audio-leaked-from-astrazeneca-covid

  849. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Davey Miller thinks he’s smart
    While all day long in our faces he’ll fart
    Invective vs Jesus and supporting ZOG
    As he shamelessly trolls us seeking Unzers
    From deep down in his particular sewers.

    I’m very glad to have met you TruVi. I have a friend here in Colorado, an elderly Aussie man who has lived here on a green card for the last 50 years. He’s a surfer and wilderness explorer. He also drove the airport limousine up to the ski resorts and had some pretty prominent passengers to whom he offered up his irreverent cheek. However he seems totally impervious to the truth issues you discuss here so eloquently and passionately. I was beginning to despair that maybe life in OZ is too warm and fuzzy for people to be concerned about anything serious until I met you.

    Who knows if you are the only righteous person Down Under!

    I hope to read this statement at tonight’s city council meeting discussing a resolution condemning Israel’s atrocities in Gaza:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/19QitajGFw53pL25bqOPvfMR8GaBwWoaA/view?usp=drivesdk

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  850. @Anon

    I was beginning to despair that maybe life in OZ is too warm and fuzzy for people to be concerned about anything serious until I met you.

    Who knows if you are the only righteous person Down Under!

    I can assure you Mev (or would you prefer that I call you Menachem in future ?), there are plenty of like minded people like myself here in Oz. That said, the bulk of Aussies are indeed in an apathetic stupor and need to be jolted out of their semi conscious state.

    I’m very glad to have met you TruVi.

    Likewise for you M. Make sure you stay well and look after yourself – because we NEED you to fight the good fight. We’ve all learnt much from you over a long period of time. Your frankness in revealing those tribulations throughout your life are indicative of someone with genuine character.

    • Replies: @Michael Korn
  851. @MIchael Korn

    Our loving little Christian MIchael Korn wrote to me:

    Davey the Satanist writes:

    And the universe simply does not care about you.
    At all.
    That is the real world.


    [Mikey] You are a satanist plain and simple. Accursed from the root up and contaminating everyone who has the misfortune to engage with you. You are a destroyer of happiness, heroism, hope, and humility.

    Awwww… it looks like I have — once again! — inadvertently triggered one of Mikey’s psychotic episodes by telling him the truth about the psychotic deluded apocalyptic rabbi, the so-called “Son of God,” whom Mikey pretends to worship.

    Mike, old buddy, I am not a Satanist for the very simple reason that Satan does not really exist. In the Old Testament, Satan is a “non-playable character,” a stock figure who helps move the plot along (most notably, in the Book of Job).

    It’s only later in the Second Temple period, evidently influenced by the Zoroastrian figure of Ahriman, that Satan is taken seriously.

    Of course the poor psychotic Jesus of Nazareth, who lived quite late in the Second Temple period, seems to have suffered from the delusion that Satan was real, at least according to the Gospels.

    Now, if you will please excuse me for once again having proven my mental superiority to you…

    You are still trying to twist away from the actual truth.

    Your fake little “Son of God,” as he is portrayed in the Gospels, made some very straightforward and definite predictions which turned out to be lies.

    I realize that trying to face up to that indisputable fact is once again triggering your psychosis, but you need to man up and face reality.

    Our loving little Christian also wrote:

    You are a true student of Stanford, which forms the letters in Hebrew Satan Rodef — Satan in pursuit.

    Hey, pretty cool!

    But you had to, sort of, like, rearrange the letters to get that to work, eh?

    And add a few vowel signs?

    Our true disciple of Jesus also wrote:

    We pray that Jesus will turn your heart from wickedness and silence your lying lips from polluting our hearts minds and souls.

    Jesus is dead, Mike. And when he was alive, Jesus was a delusional nutjob, a psychotic, kinda like you.

    That is what you have to face up to in order to be cured.

    Above, you wrote:

    As I have told my therapist, I think at root human beings are sex crazed mass murderers.

    No, most of us really aren’t.

    But, since you mention your therapist, here’s what I want you to do:

    Print out this entire exchange between me and you and show it to your therapist and ask her help in helping you to see that Jesus truly was a delusional nutjob who has been proven wrong in his claims that the End Tomes were imminent.

    And until you can talk this over with your therapist, I want you to repeat the following mantra, say it out loud, five times a day:

    Jesus of Nazareth was a delusional psychotic.

    Jesus did not commit any miracles, he was not born of a Virgin, and he did not rise from the dead.

    Jesus cannot save anyone.

    Michael Korn’s hopes, his fears, his desires simply do not matter… none of that changes the facts of reality.

    The world is what it is.

    And in the cold, harsh reality of the real wold, Jesus of Nazareth, if he lived at all, was a delusional, failed apocalyptic nutjob.

    And the universe simply does not care about Michael Korn.

    At all.

    That is the real world.

    And a sane human being must accept it.

    You, Michael Korn, are ensconced in the cavern of lies and darkness. But we here and, more than anything, your family can help you come out of the darkness into the cold, harsh, bright light of reality.

    You can do it — but you must take that first step.

    Simply read aloud the mantra I have given you above.

    That is the first step in reaching your salvation.

    Your soul, even at this late date, can still be saved.

    Abandon the lies and accept the truth.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Colin Wright
  852. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:

    Thank you for your warm words. The city council meeting tonight debating a ceasefire resolution for Gaza was most incredible. I hope to write up a detailed report tomorrow. I would say that people in favor of the ceasefire resolution outnumbered those opposing it by two to one. You could tell from the facial expressions and posture of each speaker what position he or she would adopt even before they opened their mouths!

  853. Anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    My therapist is a he and a devout Christian. So he will not be impressed with your satanic perspective. He would pity you and counsel me not to engage with you because your mind has been poisoned by demons. Return to the faith of your childhood. You can meet your parents in heaven. I’m sure they are praying for you right now.

  854. @PhysicistDave

    ‘….You can do it — but you must take that first step.

    Simply read aloud the mantra I have given you above.

    That is the first step in reaching your salvation.

    Your soul, even at this late date, can still be saved.

    Abandon the lies and accept the truth.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento’

    Nice of you to go to so much trouble to help Michael there, Dave.

  855. @Truth Vigilante

    Our NeverTrumper Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote to Ron Unz

    SUMMARY: I know you value the opinion of Dr Kevin Barrett – as we all do.
    Well, earlier in this thread Fizzy-cyst Dovid effectively said Kevin Barrett was a fool/fraud/ignorant, or words to that effect.

    Ummm, Fed, you might want to learn how to use the ctrl-F feature in Web browsers.

    I did not say anything specifically about Old Kevin at all anywhere in this thread.

    I think you are confusing Kev with crazy Laurent, eh?

    I did say the following about Laurent the crack-pot:

    Laurent Guyenot is a complete nutjob who thinks the period known as the Middle Ages did not actually occur! Four words to refute this crack-pot: dendrochronology and radiometric dating.

    Laurent Guyenot is actually more insane than Young Earth Creationists. YECs at least concede that Julius Caesar was a real human being who died over two thousand years ago.

    Which is of course absolutely true — you don’t deny what crazy Laurent has said, do you?

    Now, as to your proposed debate: as I have said many times, the First Commandment for Physicists is:

    Physicists shall not debate non-physicists about physics.

    And, as I have also said many, many times, we physicists really do expect to get paid good money for passing on the knowledge we have acquired through great effort and significant monetary cost: maybe you do not know that physicists do indeed get paid quite a lot of money, more, I suppose, than you have ever earned, as professors, consultants, inventors in industry, etc. Well, I have.

    We are not in the habit of giving it away for free.

    When Ron Unz asked me to comment on crazy Mark Gaffney’s column about the Twin Towers’ collapse, I decided to waive my usual fees, because of my respect for Ron, and did give away some information about physics for free.

    But no good deed goes unpunished: I was rewarded by tons and tons of lies, verbal abuse, and vituperation from you personally directed at me, and similarly from your pals such as Rurik the Fed.

    Now a bit of googling about Old Kevin turns up the following:

    Dr. Barrett is a former teacher of French, Arabic, Islamic Studies, Humanities at colleges and universities in Paris, the San Francisco Bay Area, and Wisconsin. He currently works as a talk radio host, nonprofit organizer, co-host at False Flag Weekly News, editor at Veterans Today, and pundit on various international TV and radio channels.

    Hmmm…. Not exactly a physicist or structural engineer or anyone who would know anything about collapsing buildings, now is he?

    So, should I break the First Commandment for Physicists and agree to debate a guy like Old Kev?

    Well… I would have to be appropriately compensated.

    Let’s say a modest honorarium of… oh, let’s say $150,000. Payable up front, of course.

    Hey, because I am so fond of you, I will give you a ten percent discount — just $135,000.

    Whaddaya say?

    Are you good for the money, Fed?

    The Fed also wrote:

    OR, if you prefer, contact one of the esteemed physicists with integrity at AE911Truth.org and get them to debate Fizzy-Dov, so that we have like-for-like credentials?

    There actually aren’t any, are there? I have repeatedly asked if you can give even a half dozen tenured professors of physics at serious research universities who share your bizarre views on 9/11. You’ve never replied with even a single one. Yeah, I know: Steve “Cold-Fusion” Jones. Who is no longer at a research university — they pushed him out because he was an embarrassment to his university. And an embarrassment to physicists in general.

    Dave Miller In Sacramento
    ——-
    ** If anyone actually wishes to pursue the actual science behind the collapse of the Twin Towers, see here for Zdeněk Bažant’s 2008 paper, published in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics, a publication of the American Society of Civil Engineers. This is actual science , unlike the utter drivel peddled by con artists such as “Truth Vigilante” and his pals.

    However, like all real science, it is not easy reading, unlike the fatuous and simple-minded lies spread by “Truth Vigilante,” Mark Gaffney, et al.

    Zdeněk Bažant literally wrote the book on structural failure: he is a world-renowned expert — not a “respected poster” here on unz.com, but someone truly respected by his peers.

    There is no lazy road to real knowledge: it takes hard — very hard! — work, work that the 911 Truthers are just too lazy to engage in.

  856. From Salon:

    ‘Hitting Trump’s pockets is only the first step
    Booting Donald Trump off the ballot and fining the Trump Organization into oblivion won’t make MAGA disappear

    By CHAUNCEY DEVEGA’

    I wonder if the writer realizes just how explicitly anti-democratic his/her proposal is?

    We have entered the era of rule by the courts.

  857. @Truth Vigilante

    #870 is in response to your comment here.

    I can add the following:

    MY PRELIMINARY REPORT

    This is my report about the Fort Collins City council meeting on Tuesday February 20th.

    Meeting started promptly at 6:00 p.m.
    I have not been at a city council meeting for many years. I was surprised to see that the mayor and all of the city council representatives along with the city attorney are female
    There were over 160 people who signed up online to make comments regarding a proposed resolution calling for ceasefire in Gaza.
    Normally a person can speak for 3 minutes but because of the large numbers we were limited to only one minute.
    We were assigned numbers based on our online registration. I was number 97 just over halfway through.
    Roughly speaker sentiment ran in favor of a Gaza ceasefire resolution by about two to one.
    The speakers on behalf of a Gaza ceasefire were quite eloquent and approached it from a range of perspectives
    The speakers opposing the resolution were all Israel supporters and took a unitary approach.
    You could tell from the looks on people’s faces in their body language what their position would be even before they started speaking into the microphone.

    The Israel supporters dominated the early speakers. They had been clearly organized and prepped and knew how to swamp out the online registration form. They came draped in American flags which was very clever way of trying to conflate the cause of Israel with the cause of America. I had the feeling that they had been coached by sophisticated Zionist PR organizations.
    The Israeli supporters said that calling for a ceasefire was tantamount to anti-Semitism because it would allow Hamas to persist.
    Some of them repeated the atrocity claims that Ron Unz and many others say are fabricated Israeli propaganda lies.
    A couple of Christians spoke in opposition to the ceasefire resolution claiming that their love for the Jewish people and for Israel obligated them to stand against Hamas.
    One of the Jewish speakers appeared to lie outright. She approached the microphone wearing a kefiya claiming that she was Lebanese but that she still opposed the resolution because Hamas was a terror organization. But when you looked on the screen her name was clearly Russian Jewish Ashkenazi.

    The speakers in support of a ceasefire resolution were Arabic, Muslim, Jewish, Christian, secular American, a Marine Corps veteran, and a number of lgbtq activists.
    There were quite a few people from an organization called Jews against Zionism.
    A number of Christian pastors spoke out in support of the resolution.
    A number of mental health professionals spoke in support of the resolution.

    The reasons given for supporting the Resolution were very diverse. I can’t recall them all but here is what I do recall:

    1. Many people spoke out simply on behalf of this year humanitarian aspect of condemning the Mass slaughter of civilians and especially children.

    2. The Israel supporters kept claiming that it was inappropriate for Fort Collins to take on an issue of international relations and it would divide the community. The Gaza supporters retorted did any issue of Justice will always involve controversy in demand division.

    3. A number of people pointed out that in the past Fort Collins city council has passed resolutions condemning the war in Iraq, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and so forth. And they questioned why city council is dragging its feet in opposition to overwhelming popular support in Fort Collins supporting a ceasefire resolution.

    4. Many people pointed out a recent study that shows Fort Collins contributing over $2 million to direct US military support for the Israeli assault against Gaza. They said that this makes Gaza very much a local issue. They said these funds could be used for pressing Community needs regarding food housing healthcare and so forth.

    5. Others pointed out that there is a local corporation that apparently is part of the military industrial complex and manufacturers bombs the Israelis are utilizing in Gaza. They pointed out that if Fort Collins is profiting from the Israeli assault on Gaza then this is definitely a local concern.

    6. A few people try to go back in history to explain that Israel from its beginning has stolen Land from the Palestinians expelled them killed them turn them into refugees. And that Israel is predicated entirely on injustice.

    7. After the meeting one of the council members said she would be unable to come to a decision decision since people had not spoken with unanimity. I thought that is an absurd cop out since sentiment ran two to one in favor of an immediate ceasefire resolution. She also said that the US finally has brought a ceasefire plan to the UN and that we need to support the system. During the comments people pointed out that the same rhetoric demonizing the Palestinians was used to demonize the Iraqis in the Afghanis after 9/11 to justify ruinous wars of invasion the 20 years later we finally admitted were a mistake. So it was very disappointing to hear this councilmember wrap herself in the flag and say we need to trust the system.

    8. One speaker pointed out that at the last city council meeting they said they would hold off on a resolution until they heard back from the Fort Collins human rights subcommittee. That subcommittee voted unanimously in support of a Gaza ceasefire and the speaker challenged City council to fulfill its promise to obey the directive of its own subcommittee.

    9. It’s quite clear that when Israel supporters complained that a resolution would divide the community they meant that the community has no right to express its majority condemnation of Israel because that would leave the Israel supporters on the outside. Note that Israel supporters are not willing to abide by Democratic norms when they are in the wrong.

    10. I was astounded to see how organized and aggressive the Israel supporters were. How much they are coached in Zionist propaganda. How much they have subverted the American democracy to support their own anti-democratic ethno-nationalistic Jewish supremacist agenda. I wanted to scream in frustration to see how these people have scammed American society.

    11. At the end of the day we have ourselves to blame for Israel’s monstrous behavior:

    A. we supported their colonial invasion of Palestine from the beginning and marginalized and demonized the native population. In this sense we behaved as a classic Western colonialistic imperialistic power.

    B. We have perpetrated genocide on countless population groups including Native American and Hispanics in this continent and all sorts of groups across the third world. Our hands are soaked in blood in the Israelis know it and they use our guilt to muffle our dissent to their current policies.

    C. Christian Zionism and more generally Evangelical American Christianity is the most blame in my opinion because it provides Divine sanction for our corrupt and Wicked support of Israel against the Palestinian people. It’s particularly absurd because Israel is a strongly anti-Christian society and it’s also an atheistic cruel murderous society. There’s absolutely no reason Christians should support Israel. And there’s no reason Americans should support a narrow ethno-nationalist quasi military dictatorship. However all of these perspectives are subverted by the unreasoning Passion of American Christians who favor Jews purely out of racism regardless of their hostility to Christianity or their unbelief in God and the bible.

    12. I wasn’t sure what to say in my allotted 60 seconds. But in the end I decided to stress the need for self-interest. Because Divine judgment is headed against America for financing and arming this genocidal assault on the helpless civilian population. And I said that any Community the passes ceasefire resolution will help to mitigate the severity of divine judgment. I said no American will be able to escape this Divine judgment because our taxes are being used to pay for this catastrophe. So I appealed to the council members to support a ceasefire in order to spare the people of Fort Collins from divine wrath.

    13. https://reflect-vod-fcgov.cablecast.tv/CablecastPublicSite/show/2358

    I found this video from the last council meeting two weeks ago. For the first 2 hours people made their comments urging the passage of a resolution calling for a Gaza ceasefire. I will let you know as soon as the latest council meeting is posted. Many of the comments in support of a ceasefire resolution were extremely articulate intelligent insightful and worth watching. At 2:02:50 in the meeting two weeks ago, council-member Kelly Ohlson (an Irish-Viking?) speaks in support of a cease fire resolution and notes that Fort Collins has passed many controversial resolutions in the past condemning the Iraq war, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, South African apartheid, and he hopes it will follow up in that tradition regarding Gaza.

    At 2:04:20 the second woman from the left defers to the Human Relations commission to make their report. At last night’s meeting a representative from that commission stated that they had recommended unanimously to support a cease fire resolution and she expected the city council to make good on its promise to now vote in favor of such resolution.

    Last night’s meeting should appear at the top of this list as Feb-20-2024 Fort Collins City Council Meeting 2/20/24 with Option view stream
    https://www.fcgov.com/fctv/video-archive

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @PhysicistDave
  858. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael Korn

    REPORT ABOUT FORT COLLINS CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY FEBRUARY 20TH 2024 re GAZA CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NBdlFVYaVMrXTukjqycR6rtPzx1qdF43/view?usp=drive_link

    • Replies: @Anon
  859. Anon[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Updated and Revised version:

    REPORT ABOUT FORT COLLINS CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY FEBRUARY 20TH 2024 re GAZA CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/19QitajGFw53pL25bqOPvfMR8GaBwWoaA/view

  860. @Truth Vigilante

    Our NeverTrumper Truth ‘the Fed” Vigilante wrote to me:

    First of all Dovid, you claim to be a Libertarian. Well then, you’ll have a lot of respect for Lew Rockwell, a personal long time CLOSE FRIEND of Murray Rothbard (and one of the greatest living Libertarians), who featured this article on his website a few years ago:

    Well, of course, I know Lew: I know everyone, you know — Nobel laureates, the leading figures in the libertarian movement, the actor John Goodman (I’ve performed onstage with John) — you name ’em; we all meet at the yearly meetings of the Elders of Zion.

    Seriously, a while back, Lew published an essay by me — see here or here. Being an atheist, I rather got a kick out of the fact that it was published on Christmas Eve! I like Christmas.

    Our little Fed also wrote:

    That’s right, the MAJORITY of Americans do not believe the official [ZOG dictated] narrative on 9/11.
    Yet SOMEHOW we’re supposed to believe that none of the thousands* of people you’ve encountered in your life doubted the official account?

    This is proof that you’re a LYING HOUND (not that observant UR readers hadn’t already noticed).

    I said I have never met anyone who shared your views on 9/11: i.e., that it is not the planes that caused the Twin Towers’ collapse.

    I read Paul Craig Roberts’ article to which you linked. Here is the key statement:

    A 2016 study from Chapman University in California, found more than half of the American people believe the government is concealing information about the 9/11 attacks. This is in part because, large sections of the official US government report were redacted for years – and is still missing to this day.

    That is of course true: the 9/11 families struggled for years to get the US government to divulge what the government knew about possible Saudi government involvement. As far as I know, the US government has still not fully come clean.

    So, of course, I and pretty much everyone I know do indeed think the US government has been concealing information about 9/11, for the simple reason that the government itself has pretty much admitted this.

    Ron Unz and I have discussed that we both would not be surprised if various Western Intelligence agencies — Mossad, the CIA, MI6, or whatever — knew more than they have admitted about 9/11.

    You won’t find any place that I have denied that.

    What I have denied is the utter nonsense you and your pals have posted about the collapse of the Twin Towers that violates basic principles of physics — the planes-as-holograms nonsense, the nuclear explosion nonsense, your claims that the collapse could not be gravity-driven, etc.

    Really, as I wrote above, if you honestly wanted to understand the physical events that happened to the Twin Towers on 9/11, you would need to read and go to great effort to fully understand, Zdeněk Bažant’s 2008 paper, published in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics, a publication of the American Society of Civil Engineers (see here).

    You will never do that, of course, because that would require real intellectual effort, and you would rather spend your time spouting off nonsense here, which requires no intellectual effort on your part at all.

    And, yes, yes, I know you can churn out reams and reams of ad hominem attacks against Bažant. All of which is very, very charming and which you and all of your pals get high off of.

    But Bažant’s 2008 paper is actual science. Your and your friends’ huffing and puffing is not.

    And no one with any real understanding of any real STEM subject is going to take you and your friends seriously unless and until you choose to learn that actual science.

    Which none of you will — because, to put it bluntly, you are all very, very lazy and rather stupid and it is just too much work.

    The little Fed also wrote:

    I do not make physical threats against anyone and don’t condone violence.
    But you’ll be sorry you ever crossed paths with me, my Ashkenazi ‘friend’.
    I won’t follow you around from one UR thread to another and I certainly won’t be venturing to the ‘Enclave of Imbecility’ (aka the Steve Sailer threads), which I know you frequent, along with other like minded Muppets and apologists for Malevolent International Jewry).

    But, if you happen to be on a UR thread that I’m looking at, you can be sure I will be alerting others to your mendacious ways, and exposing you for the liar that you are.
    You can bet on that.

    Oh, I cherish that! Replying to you on unz.com is, quite simply, the highlight of my day — more fun than really ought to be legal! You haven’t noticed that?

    The Fed also wrote:

    With that in mind, it is not surprising that your close associates in your local synagogue and Judeo-Masonic lodge think like you do, and always go out of their way to defend the (((tribe))).

    I’m a Mason now? In which Grand Lodge?

    I did have a good friend in high school who was in DeMolay — does that count? Did you know that Jacques de Molay was the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar? Do you think the Templars are still around?

    And are the Templars all really Jewish?

    What about the Bavarian Illuminati? Were the Illuminati also all secretly Jewish?

    And the Jesuits? Are the Jesuits all Jews pretending to be Catholics, like the Dönme in Turkey?

    And is Sabbatai Zevi really dead?

    Would you like me to give you the answers to all those questions?

    Tell you what — some of us are planning to immanentize the Eschaton on the Ides of March: would you like me to see if I can wangle you an invite? So that you too can know all of the secrets of all of us who truly rule the world?

    Did you know that your own wife is secretly a Jewess, so that she really belongs to Us?

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  861. @Michael Korn

    Michael Korn wrote to Truth Vigilante

    Christian Zionism and more generally Evangelical American Christianity is the most blame in my opinion because it provides Divine sanction for our corrupt and Wicked support of Israel against the Palestinian people. It’s particularly absurd because Israel is a strongly anti-Christian society and it’s also an atheistic cruel murderous society. There’s absolutely no reason Christians should support Israel.

    Oh, of course there is!

    You see, you Christians all claim to worship a dead Jewish rabbi who was quite emphatic about the fact that he came not to change one “jot or tittle” of the Old Testament.

    And the central theme of the Old Testament is about genocide against anyone who gets in the way of the Jews and their evil, murderous godling, YHWH.

    Read 1 Samuel 15 about the Amalekites to which Bibi recently alluded to justify the genocide in Gaza, or pretty much the whole of the Book of Joshua.

    WWJD — What Would Jesus Do?

    Pretty much what Netanyahu is now doing in Gaza.

    Except, as you have so lovingly explained above, your dear Jesus would also torture them eternally in Hell. And you have said that you would enjoy watching the torture.

    Bibi just tortures them for a few months here on Earth.

    What you Christians call “brotherly love.”

    And you still do not see why I am quite determined to make sure I do not spend eternity with all you Christians?

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Michael Korn
  862. @PhysicistDave

    Fizzy-cyst Dovid writes:

    if you honestly wanted to understand the physical events that happened to the Twin Towers on 9/11, you would need to read and go to great effort to fully understand, Zdeněk Bažant’s 2008 paper ….

    Zdeněk Bažant is a fraud and a tool of ZOG. The proof for that was discussed at length in previous UR threads.
    It’s not surprising that you would advocate for his bogus output, for which he was handsomely remunerated by the criminal small hats that perpetrated this False Flag.

    Meanwhile, I have studied the physical events relating to the collapses of the WTC towers and Building 7 in great depth, and am thus able to unequivocally call you out as the disinfo peddler which you most assuredly are.
    Meanwhile, for those of you that want the collapse of Building 7 explained in layman’s terms. the righteous Jew Ed Asner narrates this 15 min video, that explains how a tall building ONLY EVER collapses into its own footprint if it is subjected to a controlled demolition:

    For those of you that are interested in exploring this matter in greater depth, this longer video from AE911Truth is for you:

    So UR readers I ask you, are you going to believe the lying hound and crypto-Jew Fizzy-cyst Dovid?
    Or are you going to believe the countless thousands of objective professionals that collectively comprise the AE911Truth organisation?

    The question answers itself.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  863. ‘…Google on Thursday said it is pausing its Gemini artificial intelligence image generation feature after saying it offers “inaccuracies” in historical pictures.
    Users on social media had been complaining that the AI tool generates images of historical figures — like the U.S. Founding Fathers — as people of color, calling this inaccurate…’

    You could argue it’s merely ahead of its time. Anyway, I figured as much would happen if Google developed an A.I. Program.

  864. Anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    And you still do not see why I am quite determined to make sure I do not spend eternity with all you Christians?

    I’m sure you’ve succeeded beyond all expectations!

    I found these picture postcards of your eternal home eagerly awaiting your arrival:

    https://www.lazerhorse.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/9-Circles-Of-Hell-2-Blogie.jpghttps://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/inferno-pieter-huys.jpg

  865. I would be grateful if Ron could eliminate comments 875 and 876 as redundant to comment 877.

    Thanks!

    For Dave:

    You are incredibly stubborn. I’m feeling like a piccador sticking spears into the side of the bull. It’s become a pitiful operation to dialogue with you. I will pray for you from behind the scenes.

    Shalom waSalaam

  866. @PhysicistDave

    And you still do not see why I am quite determined to make sure I do not spend eternity with all you Christians?

    Sadly it’s possible you have succeeded beyond your worst dreams. Don’t you have any fear of God Dave?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  867. @Michael Korn

    Michael Korn asked me:

    Don’t you have any fear of God Dave?

    Which god?

    Vishnu? Marduk? Thor? Zeus? Osiris? Ahura Mazda?

    Or maybe Joe Pesci? Or Charlamagne tha God?

    If there is a god, there is no reason at all to think he is the evil little genocidal godling YHWH worshiped by your ancestors and stolen by the Christians.

    As the great philosopher Homer said:

    “What if we pick the wrong religion? Every week we’re just making God madder and madder.’

    If there is a real God, all of the gods I mentioned above are much, much saner than your little goldling YHWH.

    Not to mention the psychotically delusional long-dead Jewish rabbi Jesus of Nazareth who you seem to think is somehow part of the godhead!

    So, to answer your question, let’s just say I have exactly as much fear of your genocidal little godling as I have of Lord Voldemort — i.e., zip, nadda, the big “O.”

    Did you ever ask your Uncle Burt how much fear he had of God? Bet he shared my attitude, eh?

    But I do think we are starting to make progress in your treatment.

    You wrote above:

    Let’s get a little more personal. You are like every David I have ever known starting with my own father. A flaming narcissist who thinks he’s a gift to humanity. Devoid of even the tiniest amount of introspection and self-loathing that Jesus tells us is essential to make ourselves suitable for the spiritual life.

    “Self-loathing that Jesus tells us is essential”… that is a key admission on your part, isn’t it?

    You loathe yourself, now don’t you?

    You don’t have to — self-loathing is not normal or healthy. Okay, you yourself are indeed loathsome, but you don’t have to be. As proof of how loathsome you truly are, you wrote above:

    That’s because you will be raised from the dead and forced to make a most awkward embarrassing and uncomfortable account of your life to our Creator. And then you will spend eternity in the Lake of fire. At least you’ll be good for something as we enjoy watching you suffer for your crimes.

    Yes, you are indeed truly evil and loathsome, as that statement proves: you plan to “enjoy” watching billions of innocent human beings, all of us who are non-Christians, being tortured, as you say, for all eternity, in the “Lake of Fire”by the monstrously evil genocidal god whom you worship.

    But you can turn yourself around and become a decent human being.

    With a huge amount of effort, of course.

    Now, you said above:

    My therapist is a he and a devout Christian.

    So this is clearly a big part of your problem!

    Your own therapist is actively driving you deeper into the pit of evil.

    By the way, did you know that this whole therapist thing is a very, very Jewish thing? Being a natural-born Gentile and growing up in a neighborhood where everyone was a Gentile, as a kid I never heard of anyone having a “therapist.” That’s just not what we Gentiles do. Just something you heard about in Woody Allen movies.

    Of course, as an adult, I got to know some Jewish folks who indeed had a therapist.

    Anyway, let me help you get out of the cavern of darkness in which your “therapist” has entrapped you.

    Once again, let’s try this simple little treatment: say the following little mantra, out loud, five times a day:

    Jesus of Nazareth was a delusional psychotic.

    Jesus did not commit any miracles, he was not born of a Virgin, and he did not rise from the dead.

    Jesus cannot save anyone.

    Michael Korn’s hopes, his fears, his desires simply do not matter… none of that changes the facts of reality.

    The world is what it is.

    And in the cold, harsh reality of the real wold, Jesus of Nazareth, if he lived at all, was a delusional, failed apocalyptic nutjob.

    And the universe simply does not care about Michael Korn.

    At all.

    That is the real world.

    And a sane human being must accept it.

    And, Mike, do not fear the fake little godling you have been worshiping. He is just fantasy: he will fade away, just like Tinker Bell, if you simply stop believing in him.

    Your soul is mired in darkness and evil, the evil of the Jewish god and the little delusional psychotic rabbi Jesus of Nazareth.

    But you can come out of that evil and into the light of truth and reality.

    Take the first step — read the above mantra out loud.

    Your soul can still be saved.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  868. @Truth Vigilante

    Our NeverTrumper Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote to me:

    Zdeněk Bažant is a fraud and a tool of ZOG. The proof for that was discussed at length in previous UR threads.

    Yeah, yeah — “proof” provided by renowned physicists and structural engineers such as…..???

    Rurik the Fed? The insane goofball Laurent Guyenot who does not think that most of history actually occurred?? Because he is really too dumb to understand dendrochronology or radiometric dating?

    Or you??????

    Look, little Fed: you actually have not read — much less understood — Zdeněk Bažant’s 2008 paper published in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics, a publication of the American Society of Civil Engineers, to which I linked (see here), now have you?

    How exactly did you and your mentally deranged friends offer “proof” that what a world-renowned scientist published was wrong in a paper you have not even read?

    A paper that all of you lack the professional training or intellectual ability to grasp at all?

    Yeah, yeah, I know: you “disproved” Bažant’s work by clever little arguments like those you have used against me: misspelling my name, spelling the word “physicist” in goofy ways, claiming that I am really a Jew, etc.

    And now what do you offer in this current comment: “the righteous Jew Ed Asner narrates this 15 min video…” I mean, hey, Ed Asner was a real reporter… well, he played one on television. Sort of.

    Where did Asner earn his Ph.D. in physics or structural engineering? At what serious research university did Asner hold a tenured position? How many STEM papers has Asner published in high-quality respected scientific journals… like, say, The Journal of Engineering Mechanics????

    But you have decided that Asner is a “righteous Jew,” and so Asner’s word should be taken over the word of the man who actually wrote the book on the stability of structures, Zdeněk Bažant, right?

    The book is Stability of Structures : Elastic, Inelastic, Fracture, and Damage Theories, published by Oxford University Press — the title sort of says it all, doesn’t it? You’ve never so much as looked at that book, now have you (yes, I have)? And you would be completely unable to understand it if you did look at it, because you do not even have the basic background to understand it, do you?

    And the same is true for Rurik the Fed, crazy Laurent Guyenot, Kevin Barrett, and all the rest of your 9/11 Truther friends, now isn’t it?

    The little Fed also wrote:

    So UR readers I ask you, are you going to believe the lying hound and crypto-Jew Fizzy-cyst Dovid?
    Or are you going to believe the countless thousands of objective professionals that collectively comprise the AE911Truth organisation?

    Anyone who actually cares should look at Zdeněk Bažant’s paper and his book and ask themselves who they would trust: the man who is the world expert on this subject or a bunch of goofy anonymous psychotic on the web who are so afraid of their own shadow that they will not even reveal their own professional or educational background — or lack thereof.

    And as to the “countless thousands of objective professionals that collectively comprise the AE911Truth organisation,” I keep asking you to name a half-dozen tenured professors of physics at serious research universities who share your bizarre views about the physics of what happened to the Twin Towers. You have not named even one: yes, yes, there is crazy Steve “Cold-Fusion” Jones, who was pushed out of BYU because he was extremely embarrassing, even to a fifth-rate school like BYU! (“Brigham Young University’s ranking in the 2024 edition of [US News’] Best Colleges is National Universities, #115.”)

    The Germans published a book in the early 1930s, Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein (“Hundred Authors Against Einstein”), to which Einstein supposedly replied, “If I were wrong, it would only take one.”

    The same applies to your “countless thousands of objective professionals that collectively comprise the AE911Truth organisation,” Thousands are not needed: one would suffice — if he had a legitimate point against Zdeněk Bažant’s work that stood up to serious scholarly examination.

    But you know as well as I that there is no such person.

    Who do you actually have?

    Ed Asner.

    I have been overly polite in the past, so I will try to state this more clearly:

    You and your 9/11 Truther pals suffer from “Web psychosis,” the insane belief that the crack-pot opinions of any pompous, loudmouthed anonymous moron who posts on the Web is just as valid as the opinion of a (not anonymous) expert whose expertise has actually been proven in the real world.

    That is truly, bizarrely insane, like thinking that if you have appendicitis, you should let your brother-in-law the hairdresser cut out your appendix: after all, the dude has some sharp scissors, doesn’t he?

    You and most of the commenters and most of the posters here on unz.com (yes, including Kevin Barrett, Laurent Guyenot, and many others) are impressively stupid, ignorant, dishonest morons who pompously pontificate on issues of physical science of which you are all utterly ignorant.

    And, yes, yes, I know: your reply will claim that I am just a Jew (though I’m not), that I and Zdeněk Bažant and all of the actual experts across the planet in physics and structural engineering are bought and paid for by ZOG, and that the real way to spell “physicist” is “Fizzy Cyst.”

    Do you have any sense whatever of how truly insane all of you are?

    Well, yeah, I think you do, because I do not believe you really believe any of your bizarre lies.

    I think you really are just a Fed, now aren’t you?

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  869. @PhysicistDave

    Dovid, thanks for your spittle laden response. Hmmm … it seems I’ve really getting under your skin, exposing too many truths for your liking and your Talmudic controllers.
    You wrote:

    Where did Asner earn his Ph.D. in physics or structural engineering? At what serious research university did Asner hold a tenured position?

    Ed Asner is the narrator – nothing more, nothing less. I mention him because there are Jews that were/are not afraid to say that the USG/NIST/Zdenek Bazant explanations for the collapse of the WTC towers and Building 7 were fraudulent. Asner is one of them.
    Of course the scientific proofs presented in that video that he narrates are not Asner’s opinions, they are the findings of the professionals in AE911Truth.
    Asner’s role was merely as the MESSENGER that was relaying those findings. I made mention of him because he is a Jew (like Ron Unz) with courage and integrity.
    Unlike you Dovid – you’re a GUTLESS Jew.

    You ask me to provide the names of physicists that substantiate my claims about controlled demolition, and as I’ve said before, there are a ton of them that can be found at AE911Truth.org.
    Get in touch with them and they’ll furnish all the names you need.

    Meanwhile, an even MORE QUALIFIED professional to pass judgement on the collapses of those buildings than physicists would be a Structural Engineer.
    And there is few better and with more integrity than Professor Emeritus Dr Leroy Hulsey, at the Univ.of Alaska Fairbanks.
    Here he is being interviewed by Jimmy Dore in a video from last week, where the collapse of Bldg 7 is explained in simple layman’s terms – proving comprehensively that you’re a liar and stooge of ZOG:

    As for Zdeněk Bažant’s credibilty, I’ve posted this before in the pages of UR, but here goes again.
    Watch the following video titled ‘Engineer Tony Szamboti on dismantling NIST and Bažant’s 9/11 fairytale’:

    Szamboti is a much trusted and highly credentialled individual within the AE911truth organisation.
    Contrast that with you Dovid – you being a Malignant Jew.

    Meanwhile, comment # 873 you wrote this in response to my mentioning to you that I recollect that you had said derogatory things about Dr Kevin Barrett:

    I did not say anything specifically about Old Kevin [Barrett] at all anywhere in this thread.

    Well, in this latest comment you wrote:

    most of the commenters and most of the posters here on unz.com (yes, including Kevin Barrett, Laurent Guyenot, and many others) are impressively stupid, ignorant, dishonest morons who pompously pontificate on issues

    So Dovid, which is it? Are you not guilty of having smeared him or are you guilty as charged?

    SUMMARY: Fizzy-cyst Dovid LIES SO OFTEN, that he can’t remember what lie he propagated yesterday or the day before.
    Your commentary history is littered with inconsistencies, contradictions and nonsensical assertions.

    If indeed you are a graduate of Sanford and Son University as you claim, you have brought that junkyard university into disrepute. You are an EFF’N disgrace.

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  870. @PhysicistDave

    BTW, in relation to the video I posted above where Zdeněk Bažant is exposed as a FRAUD, the caption below the video in You Tube reads:

    This week on 9/11 Free Fall, mechanical engineer and distinguished 9/11 researcher Tony Szamboti joins host Andy Steele to share his analysis of the Twin Towers’ destruction and to reflect on his and others’ efforts to expose the scientific fraud perpetrated by NIST and engineering professor Zdeněk Bažant.

    That’s right – Zdenek Bazant committed SCIENTIFIC FRAUD.
    That makes anyone that propagates said fraud (like you do) guilty of aiding and abetting a fraudster.
    Then again, birds of a feather do stick together – hence the reason that a liar and pseudoscientist like you is in his corner.

    SUMMARY: Since making his fraudulent ‘findings’ in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 False Flag and being lavishly remunerated by ZOG for doing so, Bazant disappeared.
    No scientist worth his salt wanted to be associated with him, nowhere was he interviewed, nowhere was he invited to be a guest speaker.
    Because they ALL knew what he had done was fraudulent, and thereafter kept a wide berth from him.

    In other words, pretty much like you Dovid. Your colleagues likewise shun you.
    Because you have NO INTEGRITY. They know you’ll prostitute yourself to the highest bidder.

  871. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Dr Roger Hodkinson:

    Dr. Pierre Kory Asks One Simple Question the FDA and CDC Don’t Want to Answer

    158,000 MORE Americans died in the first 9 months of 2023 than expected.

    “This is a humanitarian catastrophe.”

    Life expectancy has also dropped by THREE YEARS.

    This is happening because an unprecedented number of young people are suddenly and unexpectedly dying — and “you can’t explain it with COVID”:

    “The most alarming rates are the 35 to 44 and 44 to 55. Incredible sudden spikes in death really centered in the third quarter and fourth quarter of 2021. And you have to ask yourself, what major societal event occurred at that time that could possibly explain those deaths?

    “And it was not all COVID deaths. We have the data. You can’t explain it with COVID. And so, I’ve not seen anyone with a credible alternative explanation for a sudden spike in the healthiest members of society.

    “And the other interesting thing about the data is when you look at who is dying, it’s essentially the white-collar workers died more than gray-collar, that died than more than blue-collar. So you have to ask yourself, what happened in the workplace, in the American workplace, in the third quarter of 21? And that [the COVID jab] is the only answer I can come up with.”

    Join 👉 https://t.me/RogerHodkinson

    https://t.me/RogerHodkinson/2302

  872. @Truth Vigilante

    Our little NeverTrumper Truth Vigilante wrote to me:

    Hmmm … it seems I’ve really getting under your skin

    Oh, no! I love you like a brother!

    As I have said countless times, my main purpose in participating in forums like this on the Web is to study the nature of human psuychopathology.

    Before engaging all you 911 Truthers on unz.com, I had thought of 911 Truthers as a mildly eccentric group of people who were probably pretty normal except for this one obsession.

    I had in the past engaged with Scientologists and Mormons and Young Earth Creationists and all sorts of crazy folks.

    But you can imagine my sheer delight in discovering that you 911 Truthers are far, far crazier than any of them!

    You are simply a gold mine of examples of psychopathology, a veritable Mother Lode of human psychopathology! I had never imagined I could find so many truly psychotic people in one place.

    The little Fed also wrote:

    [The Fed] Meanwhile, comment # 873 you wrote this in response to my mentioning to you that I recollect that you had said derogatory things about Dr Kevin Barrett:

    [Dave] I did not say anything specifically about Old Kevin [Barrett] at all anywhere in this thread.

    [The Fed]Well, in this latest comment you wrote:

    [Dave] most of the commenters and most of the posters here on unz.com (yes, including Kevin Barrett, Laurent Guyenot, and many others) are impressively stupid, ignorant, dishonest morons who pompously pontificate on issues

    [The Fed] So Dovid, which is it? Are you not guilty of having smeared him or are you guilty as charged?

    Now, you’re getting it, little Fed! Up till comment 873, I had indeed said nothing about Krazy Kevin at all in this thread.

    But, since you did seem interested in my view of Krazy Kevin, in my latest comment I did indeed let out that I think he is not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.

    See? Earlier I had not commented on Krazy Kevin in this thread; later, I did, since you expressed interest in my opinion of Krazy Kevin..

    The Fed also wrote:

    You ask me to provide the names of physicists that substantiate my claims about controlled demolition, and as I’ve said before, there are a ton of them that can be found at AE911Truth.org.

    I have not been able to find a single one who is a tenured professor of physics at a serious research university.

    And neither can you.

    The little Fed also wrote:

    Szamboti is a much trusted and highly credentialled individual within the AE911truth organisation.

    Which is just another way of saying he is an idiot.

    You seem not to understand: being involved with AE911Trtuh is evidence of mental instability or just plain stupidity. Not something to advertise!

    A moment of googling shows that Szamboti has a only a B.S. in MechE… from Villanova!!!! His experience is “naval aerospace systems and components” etc. Not structural engineering or fundamental physics.

    Do you know where Villanova ranks in engineering?

    “Villanova University is ranked No. 171 (tie) in Best Engineering Schools.”

    Even lower than BYU!!!

    In short, Villanova is a joke: I would not want to even ride on a roller coaster designed by an engineer from Villanova.

    And I don’t know how to break this to you, but, among STEM people, MechEs are generally the butt of jokes.

    Just one example: Bill Nye “the Science Guy” is a MechE from a real university (Cornell), not a goofball school like Villanova. But the reason Bill Nye is so effective at playing a clueless moron is because that is who MechEs generally are.

    Our little Fed also wrote:

    That’s right – Zdenek Bazant committed SCIENTIFIC FRAUD.
    That makes anyone that propagates said fraud (like you do) guilty of aiding and abetting a fraudster.

    You are of course lying.

    If you had evidence of scientific fraud by Zdeněk Bažant, you would be able to say specifically what that fraud was. Instead of posting videos with a tenth-rate engineer from a tenth-rate school — Villanova.

    You still have not bothered to read Bažant’s paper to which I keep linking (see here), now have you?

    And we all know why, don’t we?

    Because you, and all of your friends, and all of the fake experts you keep linking to simply lack the mental ability to understand that paper.

    You appeal again and again and again to the thousands of members of AE911Truth, as if there is truth in numbers. But, as Einstein supposedly said when the book Hundert Autoren Gegen Einstein (“Hundred Authors Against Einstein”), was published, “If I were wrong, it would only take one.”

    You don’t meed thousands of fake experts from the fake AE911Truth.

    You just need one.

    Just one person who can point out some serious error in Bažant’s paper to which I keep linking (see here).

    But you cannot come up with that one person.

    Because you and all of your crackpot 911 Truther friends are mental imbeciles, to a man, who lack the mental ability to grasp Bažant’s paper.

    Every single one of you. Mental imbeciles.

    “If Bažant were wrong, it would only take one.”

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

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  873. Anon[215] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Dave,

    You seem to enjoy going for low hanging fruit. Obviously you believe no one on this site comes near to your intelligence and erudition. You probably surpass even Mr Unz. (Speaking of whom, he has written recently that he believes that 9/11 was a cover-up and an act of malfeasance. Why don’t you attack him? It’s called picking on someone your own size.)

    A lot of what you do is called friendly fire. In the realm of libertarian economics, you and TruVi agree on a lot of things. You don’t seem to be very good at building alliances, only in taking pot shots at things that annoy you. I used to think you must be married, but now I’m wondering if you’re just a very frustrated INCEL.

    Don’t you have anything better to do with your life than to attack your mental inferiors at TUR??? Your behavior really is kind of creepy. Like a PhD who would hang around elementary schools laughing at the uneducated children. It borders on predatory deviance. Maybe that’s why you’re always making mental illness slurs at people because you know of what you speak since you suffer from it yourself?

    To my friend TruVi, please stop wasting your time with this man. You just provide fuel for his rage. It’s a big waste of your time and energy. Jesus told us to shake the dust off our feet and leave a place that won’t receive our wisdom. Please do that. Don’t allow this man to make you the butt of his jokes and the object of his wrath. You deserve much better!

    To Davey:

    https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/4499/Super-Bowl-Churchianity.aspx

    I found this article by Pastor Chuck Baldwin in Montana very inspiring. Admittedly very few Christians speak with his boldness or have his perception. I would assume you might agree with most of what he writes here. Do you think his Christian faith has anything to do with the virtuous character he manifests in this article?

    I think it does. You might say that his Christianity is completely incidental to the correctness of his views. And that he happens to end up agreeing with you a belligerent atheist. However there is an important difference between the two of you. Pastor Chuck is dedicated to educating and uplifting other people. You however focus on targeting minor objects of descent and disputation. You don’t know how to build a coalition, get people to work together towards a common goal, encourage. Although I accept that you are not Jewish, you have a very Jewish trait of destroying the hope of others in the name of exposing their naivete.

    Davey Miller – Destroyer of Joy
    vs.
    Chuck Baldwin – Builder of Hope

    I have a friend who works as a paralegal for an intellectual property firm in Chicago. She says all of the attorneys there are PhDs in science, many from China. They’re brilliant scientists and also trained attorneys. I think this would have been a great field for you because you could have vented your aggressive instincts into the law. If you can manage to disengage from your addiction to picking low-hanging fruit at the Unz Review, maybe you can retrain for a career move. It would be good for you and for us to see you go.

    A final question. You keep asking me to save my soul. But you don’t believe in a spirit world or an afterlife. Most cultures believe the soul emanates from a world beyond this physical realm. So what exactly do you mean when you invite me to save my soul? Is it a misspelling? Maybe you mean to write the sole of my shoe?

    Or do you mean the soul as the seat of the intellect and you are inviting me to stop wasting my time in this transient world on spiritual illusions and to focus on real world objectives goals and aspirations like money power fame and fortune?

    https://www.vtforeignpolicy.com/2024/02/our-country-then-and-now-review-by-michael-korn/

  874. Anon[215] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    There was a famous American Explorer called Davy Crockett.
    Our Dave unfortunately is just:
    Davey Crock of Shyte
    Or Davey Crackpot

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  875. @Anon

    Michael Korn wrote to me:

    You seem to enjoy going for low hanging fruit. Obviously you believe no one on this site comes near to your intelligence and erudition. You probably surpass even Mr Unz. (Speaking of whom, he has written recently that he believes that 9/11 was a cover-up and an act of malfeasance. Why don’t you attack him? It’s called picking on someone your own size.)

    Well… 911 certainly was an “act of malfeasance,” now wasn’t it? It was not exactly an act of brotherly love!

    And Ron and I agree, as pretty much everyone does, that the US government has held back on information they had concerning 911. So, exactly why would I “pick on someone my own size”? How do I disagree with Ron on the issue of 911?

    Look: last summer Ron asked me to comment on Mark Gaffney’s lies about 911. I did so, initially in a calm and non-combative way. “Truth Vigilante” and his fellow thugs immediately started viciously lying about me and attacking me personally. I am not a Christian: “turning the other cheek” only encourages thugs like our little Fed.

    I therefore consider it immoral, deeply and profoundly immoral, to “turn the other cheek.”

    I try to never, ever do that. Never.

    Furthermore, truth matters.

    They are lying about a matter of real substance, specifically about matters of physics, which is my sepcific field of expertise. I feel an obligation to expose such lies publicly.

    If physicists do not expose such lies, who will?

    Somebody has to expose the lying bastards, don’t you think? Especially when, like Truth “the Fed” Vigilante, what they are doing is using sick fantasies about 911 to distract attention from the very real and horrific crimes being committed today by the US regime — the mass murder in Gaza and Ukraine, the sexual mutilation of children who are confused about their “gender,” the totalitarian police state that is trying to jail political dissidents from Julian Assange to the leading candidate for the Presidency of the United States!

    And, more than anything, as I keep saying, my main motive for participating in forums like this is my interest in studying human psychopathology. And Truth Vigilante — and, yes, you, Mike — are simply priceless examples of human psychopathology!

    Mike also wrote:

    You don’t seem to be very good at building alliances, only in taking pot shots at things that annoy you. I used to think you must be married, but now I’m wondering if you’re just a very frustrated INCEL.

    I have talked many times about my adult child and posted a link to the article in the UCLA campus paper about the vicious assault against her (see here): I have been married for over forty years — only one wife.

    You aren’t, are you? I think you are projecting.

    And I have no interest in “building alliances”: my interest is in telling the truth. That is especially important when no one else is telling the truth. I lack the desire to be part of some “Inner Ring,” to quote from C. S. Lewis famous essay (see here).

    I lack the desire to “belong” to some groups, to “build alliances,” or whatever. My desire is to tell the truth.

    Mike also wrote:

    Or do you mean the soul as the seat of the intellect and you are inviting me to stop wasting my time in this transient world on spiritual illusions and to focus on real world objectives goals and aspirations like money power fame and fortune?

    Nope.

    I think you know the answer to that: there are many common expression in English along the lines of “a good soul,” “sickness of soul,” etc.

    When we refer to the “state of one’s soul” we refer to his character, his motivations, his orientation towards himself and others, etc. Basically, the “Noble Eightfold Path” as the Buddhists say.

    And the evil religion to which you adhere rots the soul. This is very dramatically proven by your statement above:

    That’s because you will be raised from the dead and forced to make a most awkward embarrassing and uncomfortable account of your life to our Creator. And then you will spend eternity in the Lake of fire. At least you’ll be good for something as we enjoy watching you suffer for your crimes.

    That is what Christianity really is.

    As you know, you did not invent the idea of the Blessed enjoying the suffering of the Damned. That profound evil goes back at least to Aquinas. From Question 94 of the Supplement of the Summa Theologiae:

    Wherefore in order that the happiness of the saints may be more delightful to them and that they may render more copious thanks to God for it, they are allowed to see perfectly the sufferings of the damned.

    But in the future state it will be impossible for them to be taken away from their unhappiness: and consequently it will not be possible to pity their sufferings according to right reason. Therefore the blessed in glory will have no pity on the damned.

    And thus the Divine justice and their own deliverance will be the direct cause of the joy of the blessed: while the punishment of the damned will cause it indirectly.

    You and Aquinas are most assuredly on the same page!

    But, even more than that, the primary means of survival of the human species is our faculty of reason. And Christianity is, as I have shown above in detail, a pack of lies that subverts that reason.

    The truth is a value in and of itself, the supreme value in my judgment.

    Those of us who value truth must combat lies, whether in the form of Christianity or in the form of lies about 911.

    Indeed, standing up for the truth is the first and primary moral obligation we humans have as rational beings.

    Finally, as I keep pointing out to you, Jesus of Nazareth believed in the monstrously evil godling of the Old Testament: as Jesus said, he came not to change one “jot or tittle” of the Law.

    This matters.

    The war criminal Bibi Netanyahu recently justified the mass murders he is ordering in the Gaza by invoking the commands towards Amalek in the Old Testament. And he is quite correct, in terms of Judaism: the Old Testament, from Exodus through at least to 1 Samuel, is one long story of killing innocent people who get in the way of the Jews, killing because that is what the Jews’ evil little godling YHWH wants!

    Judaism is one of the most evil religions the human race has invented. And Christianity is committed, by the words of its founder, to support the evil Jewish godling as presented in the Old Testament.

    Which is exactly what most serious American Christians are indeed doing today: they are supporting the genocide in Gaza.

    At a personal level, you yourself wrote above:

    Dave eviscerates my faith and my character to the point where I’ve considered suicide a number of times. He’s that effective.

    Really think about this. If I tried to convince you that the Earth were flat, you would probably laugh, you might be annoyed, but you would most certainly not consider suicide (“a number of times”!) as a result.

    What is there about a belief system that so warps your soul that, when someone points out perfectly obvious and well-known flaws in that belief system, you are driven to consider suicide “a number of times”?

    Such a belief system is horribly and deeply evil. It destroys the human spirit.

    And it has destroyed yours.

    But, most of all, the truth is its own justification. Whether it is the lies of Christianity or the lies Truth Vigilante is spreading about the principles of physics involved in the gravity-driven collapse of the Twin Towers, it is always a good and noble thing to defend the truth.

    Yes, I am and always have been and always will be a true fanatic for the truth: you shall know the truth, and the truth will make you free.

    “Live not by lies.”

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

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    , @Anon
    , @Truth Vigilante
  876. Anon[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Thank you for your response. For what it’s worth, I retract my comment about enjoying seeing you suffer in hell. On almost every metric your life has been far more exemplary than mine, so if you end up in hell I’m likely to be there with you.

    As far as I recall Ron has stated that he does not accept the official government narrative about 9/11 and he does believe it was a controlled demolition.

    On the issues about which you express so much outrage, on the issues about which you express outrage, I’m sure TruVi would agree with you completely. If you don’t like the way the Zionists abuse their power in this country and around the world, you should not be surprised about their alleged role in the 9/11 attacks.

    You have a beautiful daughter with a beautiful name. Sung is Korean correct? In my experience the Koreans are the nicest of the East Asians. And I think that Aletheia means truth in Greek correct? I just don’t understand why you are publicizing this story about her on TUR. Why do you need to display her photograph for people that you hate and disdain to look at? Rather post a photo of yourself than of your daughter.

    Considering the insensitive comments my pastor has made in support of Israel’s aggressions in Gaza, I certainly can understand your hatred of Christianity. I won’t seek to challenge you on that anymore.

    While I have your attention, could you take a few moments to look at this link about the Auschwitz commandant’s autobiography. It seems quite incriminating regarding Auschwitz as a death camp, something that Runs is now denying. When was this written? Was this while he was incarcerated awaiting the Nuremberg tribunal? Do revisionists claim that this book was the product of torture and intimidation? Note that the author of this article is a Pole who does not like Jews and believes they exaggerated their suffering in the war but nevertheless affirms that Auschwitz was a death camp in which Jews Poles and Russians were all exterminated with brutality:
    https://www.jewsandpolesdatabase.org/2019/11/04/auschwitz-no-valid-jewish-monopolization-hoess/

    Thank you for all you do to uphold the truth. The numerous statements in the New Testament about Jesus as Truth were quite persuasive to my decision to get baptized.

    Shalom waSalaam,
    Mevashir

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  877. Anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Dave,

    As you know, I lived in Israel for 20 years. I saw firsthand the contempt most Israelis have for Americans. Yes they are envious of American affluence and relative security nestled between two oceans, but they consider Americans to be naive gullible ignorant dupes easily manipulated. Unless they are very rich, American Jews who move to Israel have a tough time integrating because of Israeli contempt for all things American.

    It seems that the Israelis have become increasingly bold in their operations against America. The JFK assassination was pretty well veiled; however your buddy Ron has stated numerous times that he supports the theory of Michael Collins Piper that the Israelis were behind the JFK assassination. If the Israelis could pull that off in Dallas, where they had limited assets, how much more could they orchestrate the 9/11 attacks in New York City and Washington DC where they virtually control both municipalities.

    You might imagine that you’re having a solitary dispute with TruVi or Mark Gaffney. However I’m sure you realize the Israelis monitor sites like this one and when they see a Caltech Stanford PhD in particle physics swallowing the bogus Kool-Aid about the 9/11 attacks, that simply emboldens them even more in their contempt for America. They say to themselves “Nu, the best and the brightest in America have swallowed our kool-aid. The doors are wide open for us to abuse that bytch whenever we wish.”

    There’s a rabbinical teaching that when Joshua sent the two spies to Jericho and they spent time with the harlot named Rahab, she told them that the entire city was in fear of the approaching Israelite army. She said that her business had dried up because the men of Jericho were so afraid of the Jews they couldn’t get it up and she lost customers.

    This is the way the Jews operate. It’s like a guy who takes a girl to a movie. It’s their first date and he doesn’t know how much he can do with her. So in the dark movie theater he puts his hand on her knee. If she doesn’t resist he starts inching his way up her thigh moving towards her snatch. So long as she does nothing he’ll keep moving forward.

    I can promise you that your advocacy for the bogus government narrative about the 9/11 attacks simply emboldens the Israelis more and more in their campaign to use and abuse America for their own strategic purposes. Please bear it in mind. You are not disputing with two random people in cyberspace. Your views are on display right over there in Netanya Mossad headquarters where they’re laughing up their sleeves at the gullibility of one of America’s most highly educated physicists.

    One more thing concerning your contempt for Jesus of Nazareth. Remember back then there were no nuclear physicists or Stanford Universities. Jesus was one of the great wise men of his day even if he wasn’t a scientist like you. And countless scientists throughout the ages have admired him, including this man at Cambridge:
    https://www.csap.cam.ac.uk/network/colin-humphreys/

    Sacramento means Holy Sacrament. It’s a lot to live up to. You can do it.

  878. @Anon

    Michael Korn wrote to me:

    As far as I recall Ron has stated that he does not accept the official government narrative about 9/11 and he does believe it was a controlled demolition.

    Well, I have not seen him say that. In any case, what I have been objecting to is very specific claims by our little NeverTrumper Truth Vigilante and his evil little pals that violate very, very basic principles of physics: specifically, that the gravity-driven collapse of the Twin Towers is inconsistent with Newton’s Third Law of Motion.

    He and his pals are saying that out of ignorance, and they are simply and dramatically wrong.

    I tried to point this out politely last summer, and I was met with a wall of verbal abuse, vituperation, and lies.

    They are deeply and profoundly evil people, with no respect for the truth, who are profoundly ignorant of basic principles of physics, and I intend to keep pointing this out.

    At least until they fully repent. Which I do not think they ever will.

    Mike also wrote:

    For what it’s worth, I retract my comment about enjoying seeing you suffer in hell.

    Well, no — you are not really sorry. How do I know?

    Because almost two weeks after you posted the sick comment about enjoying seeing most of the human race being eternally tortured by your little godling, you posted the following:

    You are a satanist plain and simple. Accursed from the root up and contaminating everyone who has the misfortune to engage with you. You are a destroyer of happiness, heroism, hope, and humility. We can be sure you yourself are desperately unhappy or else you would not spend all your time trolling this site preying on the sincere seekers of truth.

    That was just a few days ago, earlier this week. You just cannot help yourself: your filthy, evil little religion has rotted your soul.

    Mikey also wrote:

    On the issues about which you express so much outrage, on the issues about which you express outrage, I’m sure TruVi would agree with you completely.

    So what?

    Perhaps Al Capone opposed FDR in 1936, just as my grandfathers did and as I would have done. Capone was still an evil man.

    And our little Fed Truth Vigilante is still an evil, pathological liar (specifically in continuing to, quite bizarrely, keep insisting I am Jewish!), whether or not he and I agree on some political issues.

    And I am going to keep exposing his lies.

    Mike also wrote:

    You have a beautiful daughter with a beautiful name. Sung is Korean correct?

    Nope.

    Mike also wrote:

    I just don’t understand why you are publicizing this story about her on TUR. Why do you need to display her photograph for people that you hate and disdain to look at?

    You, quite insultingly, suggested I was “just a very frustrated INCEL.”

    I take it you yourself actually are and were just projecting, right?

    Anyway, the fact that I have a wife and a grown daughter does show your insult missed the mark.

    And I am not displaying her photo: it is there on the Web in the Daily Bruin article for everyone on the planet to see.

    Mike also wrote:

    Considering the insensitive comments my pastor has made in support of Israel’s aggressions in Gaza, I certainly can understand your hatred of Christianity.

    Wrong again.

    As I keep saying — how many times do I have to repeat this point??? — I hate Christianity simply because it is not true.

    Because it is a pack of lies.

    Look at what has been happening in this and the earlier threads for over half a year now:

    I am simply the little boy in the famous Hans Christian Andersen story pointing out that the emperor has no clothes. As I keep saying, I entered the Gaffney thread as a result of a request from Ron Unz, and I stated some simple and straightforward facts from physics.

    And al hell broke loose: I was accused of being a liar, a secret agent of ZOG, a crypto-Jew and on and on and on. I’m a big boy. I can take it. In fact, I get a kick out of it — it is quite entertaining.

    But what it shows is that our 911 Truthers suffer from a certain, let us say, mental and moral fragility.

    They just can not — they will not — confront the actual facts of physics.

    Instead, they fly into fits of rage and vituperation.

    It’s all quite funny.

    Similarly, with you, I have pointed out a bunch of very well-known passages from the Old and New Testaments that show quite conclusively that Jesus of Nazareth, as portrayed in the Gospels, was simply delusional, that the godling of the Old Testament, YHWH, was genocidal, and that Jesus embraced this evil godling YHWH.

    But rather than deal with those facts, you have gone around and around and around calling me a Satanist, trying to discern my true underlying motives, etc.

    You just cannot accept that my underlying motive is simply to tell the truth.

    Because you do not want to face the simple, straightforward, and obvious truth about Christianity — Christianity is a pack of lies.

    Again, I am a big boy: I do not really care that you called me a Satanist and all the rest.

    But I do care about the truth.

    And I urge you to face the truth openly and without fear and evasion. See Jesus for what he truly was — a delusional, psychotic, apocalyptic nutjob. The truth is there and easy to see.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  879. @Anon

    ‘…If the Israelis could pull that off in Dallas, where they had limited assets, how much more could they orchestrate the 9/11 attacks in New York City and Washington DC where they virtually control both municipalities….’

    Speaking for myself, I’m sure the Israelis were aware that al Qaeda intended the 9/11 attacks. They may well have even smoothed the way for them in some way.

    …but you obviously believe more than that; that the attacks were faked, the buildings destroyed via planted explosives etc.

    I’ve never bothered to look at the technical feasibility of such a project; the obvious question is why? Why resort to such a convoluted scheme, which could obviously go wrong in a hundred ways? Why not just blow up the buildings and plant evidence pointing to whoever you like? Why bother with the planes at all?

    If the Israelis could pull that off in Dallas, where they had limited assets, how much more could they orchestrate the 9/11 attacks in New York City and Washington DC where they virtually control both municipalities.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  880. @Colin Wright

    The editing on that got all screwed up. Never mind…

  881. @Anon

    To my friend TruVi, please stop wasting your time with this man. You just provide fuel for his rage. It’s a big waste of your time and energy.
    Don’t allow this man to make you the butt of his jokes and the object of his wrath.

    You needn’t worry, it’s certainly no waste of time. I like to throw more fuel on the fire. We can all see that I (and many 0thers in past 9/11 UR threads like Rurik, Iris, Old Philosopher and many others), have whipped Dovid Miller into an apoplectic rage. I want to dial up the rage in Dovid until he bursts a blood vessel in his head or has a stroke – this is my sincere wish.
    He really is a depraved POS and will say and do anything if he’s properly remunerated (as he’s made clear in relation to debating Dr Kevin Barrett or someone from AE911Truth – recall how he wanted a six figure payment for his services).
    I recall how I laughed when I saw what he wrote, seeing as this snivelling dog isn’t worth a bent nickel.

    Look, those of us that have witnessed first hand the mendacity of Fizzy-cyst Dovid don’t need to be reminded that he’s a lying hound.
    But, for the benefit of those readers new to UR, they need to be given a heads up.
    Fizz-Dov’s attempts at jokes are gaining no traction. He can say whatever he wants, it’s water off a duck’s back as far I’m concerned.
    You see, I have the truth and science backed real world forensic evidence to back me up. The truth always wins out in the end.
    Anyone with even a rudimentary grasp of Newtonian physics can see that what Dovid Miller is asserting is positively juvenile.
    I can assure you that, unless I get kicked out of UR, I will forever keep hounding Dovid Miller and exposing him as the apparatchik of ZOG that he obviously is.

    Why would I stop? It’s fun embarrassing and eviscerating Fizzy-cyst Dovid day after day.
    It really is a turkey shoot – his assertions in defence of the official ZOG scripted narrative are really THAT poorly thought through.
    I mean, if you’re going to lie about the 9/11 False Flag, you should at least put forward hypotheses that have at least some semblance of credibility.

    Take for instance Dovid’s drivel about AE911Truth’s representative Szamboti in a previous video I posted. Dovid keeps droning on about the ranking of the tertiary institution Szamboti graduated from (ranked outside the top 100 in the U.S according to Dovid).
    At the end of the day, Szamboti is just a SPOKESMAN on behalf of AE911Truth, so it wouldn’t matter if his alma mater was ranked in single digits or at # 1000.
    Because he is speaking on behalf of thousands of other professionals within that organisation.

    What matters is: IS WHAT SZAMBOTI IS SAYING, IS THAT BACKED UP BY NEWTONIAN PHYSICS?
    Answer: An emphatic YES !!

    Mev, you’re falling into the trap of saying: ‘Because Dovid Miller is [allegedly] an alumnus of Sanford and Son university, his opinion should thus take precedence.
    Let me clarify things by way of example:

    Let’s take Tony Fauci (MD from Cornell University), of Rochelle Walensky [Johns Hopkins University (MD), Harvard University (MPH)].
    And let’s say a young man took the Covid clot shot and came down with severe chest pains, he was turning blue in the face and needed to be rushed to emergency to save his life.
    Does the mother of that young man need to be reassured by Fauci and Walensky that the experimental mRNA ‘pretend’ vaccine is safe and effective, because she can SEE WITH HER OWN EYES what damage it wrought on her boy?

    Similarly, the credentials of any particular health professional, academic, scientist or whatever, count for nought if they’re PATHOLOGICAL LIARS – as Fizzy-cyst Dovid unambiguously is.

    Lastly, Dovid Miller keeps demanding that I furnish the name of a tenured professor from an Ivy League institution or equivalent. The fact of the matter is that they’re shit scared to speak the truth.
    Like in the case of the JFK coup d’etat, there are countless unexplained deaths relating to the 9/11 False Flag.
    Individuals like Lyn Margulis, recipient of the National Medal of Science (the most prestigious award an American can get), came out and spoke the truth.
    The gravitas of this woman was phenomenal. When she spoke, people listened. That’s why ZOG murdered her.
    Senator Paul Wellstone was about to launch a Congressional investigation into 9/11, so ZOG killed him, his wife, daughter and few of his staff members for good measure.

    Dovid Miller knows this, he knows that these tenured professors fear for their lives and the lives of family members, that’s why they dare not come out publicly and speak the truth.
    I suggest you scroll up to my comment # 887 where Jimmy Dore interviews Professor Emeritus Leroy Hulsey. Go to the few seconds from 6:20-6:30, where Hulsey says, after finally agreeing to do the scientific analysis of the collapse of Bldg 7:

    ‘I’m old enough, so if (((they))) DECIDE TO TAKE ME OUT, it’s no big deal’.

    So UR readers, if what Hulsey has proven through a comprehensive Finite Element Analysis is false (this is the GOLD standard in assessing structural failure of buildings), WHY would Hulsey fear being ‘taken out’ by ZOG?
    I mean, if Dovid Miller’s pseudoscience could disprove what Hulsey claims, then there’s no need to resort to murdering someone.
    ANSWER: Because what Prof. Hulsey demonstrated CANNOT be disproved.
    Hulsey’s findings (that Bldg 7 could NOT have come down because of load bearing columns failing through weakening by fire – as NIST asserts), is extremely damaging to ZOG’s case and that’s why apologists and minions for ZOG (like Dovid Miller) are wasting so much energy trying to spread his disinfo, trying to smear the truth tellers.

    • Troll: PhysicistDave
  882. @Anon

    You are not disputing with two random people in cyberspace. Your views are on display right over there in Netanya Mossad headquarters where they’re laughing up their sleeves at the gullibility of one of America’s most highly educated physicists.

    Mev, you’re being very naive here.
    Fizzy-cyst Dovid has either been posted here in UR as a sayan to deliberately Deflect, Deceive and Obfuscate OR ….
    seeing as he’s been a dud in his field of expertise, and been shunned by fellow academics because he has a history of peddling junk science/been a serial offender in falsifying data etc, we have a situation where Dovid Miller wants to get BACK in the good books of ZOG and impress them with his commitment to propagating the false narrative on 9/11.

    In other words Mev, don’t speak to Fizzy Dov as if he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
    Every word he writes, every falsehood Fizzy-cyst Dovid posts here in UR, is done with MALICE AFORETHOUGHT.

    • Replies: @Anon
  883. @PhysicistDave

    This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    While reading your comment I have realized something mildly interesting that, for some reason, I had never realized before.
    The Gospel of Matthew was written at least five decades *after* Jesus’s death.

    The Gospel of Mark probably dates from c. AD 66–70,[5] Matthew and Luke around AD 85–90,[6] and John AD 90–110.[7]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel
    That means that Matthew was already approaching obsolescence when it was released into the world.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  884. Anon[901] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    TruVi wrote:
    “seeing as he’s been a dud in his field of expertise, and been shunned by fellow academics because he has a history of peddling junk science/been a serial offender in falsifying data etc, we have a situation where Dovid Miller wants to get BACK in the good books of ZOG and impress them with his commitment to propagating the false narrative on 9/11.”

    This doesn’t make sense to me. First of all Ron pointed out that his opinion piece in the Stanford Daily when he was a grad student 40 years ago hostile to Israel may have sabotaged his future academic career. Second of all there’s no grounds to assume he falsified data in any of his work as a researcher. That’s a really serious accusation and I would not make it even jokingly. Third zog has nothing to do with his field of expertise physics research publications etc. I think your line of reasoning here is way off base.

    Thank you for pointing out however that his argument about the sequential gravitational collapse applies to building 7. That seems preposterous.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  885. One could take this to mean that we’re about half-way to a final solution to the Ukrainian Problem.

    https://twitter.com/davidpgoldman/status/1761807128132456921/photo/1

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    , @Mark G.
  886. niceland says:

    Question:
    Has anyone been paying attention to the brothers: Eric and Bret Weinsten?

    Input?

  887. Those guys…

    Whadda buncha kiddas!

    ‘Israel’s coordination office for its activities in Palestine (COGAT) has released footage allegedly showing a humanitarian aid convoy in northern Gaza.

    “There is no limit to the amount of humanitarian aid that can be sent to the civilian population of Gaza and northern Gaza,” it wrote in a post on X.

    Earlier tonight, we reported that the Israeli military shelled and fired on crowds of Palestinians waiting for food aid trucks to arrive in Gaza City in northern Gaza, killing 10 people and injuring 15 more, according to the Wafa news agency…’

  888. @Anon

    Anon[901] wrote to Truth Vigilante:

    Thank you for pointing out however that [Dave’s] argument about the sequential gravitational collapse applies to building 7. That seems preposterous.

    Actually, if you look back at my comment history, I don’t think you will find that I have ever specifically addressed the issue of Building 7.

    I got into this conversation last summer when Ron Unz asked me to comment on Mark Gaffney’s obviously goofy claims about a nuclear demolition (!) of the Twin Towers. That is just insane, for quite obvious reasons.

    Then crazy old NeverTrumper Truth Vigilante started claiming that a gravity-driven collapse of the Twin Towers violated Newton’s Third Law of Motion.

    Which indicated that Truth Vigilante should not have been given a passing grade in high-school physics (perhaps he wasn’t): his claim was obviously nonsense.

    As to Building 7… well, I was not asked to comment on that, and my giving simple and straightforward physics information about the various crack-pot theories concerning the collapse of the Twin Towers has produced such a bizarre and insane response that I am disinclined to go further down that rabbit hole by offering comments about Building 7!

    I will sometimes offer free information about physics, but there is a limit as to how much verbal abuse I will choose to take.

    I have therefore tried to avoid commenting on the collapse of Building 7 one way or the other, and I do not see anywhere in this thread that I have done so. My area of expertise is physics, and I have therefore tried to focus on the fact that Truth Vigilante and his crazy friends have been making claims about the collapse of the Twin Towers that are, in terms of basic principles of physics, utterly insane.

    Anon also wrote:

    Second of all there’s no grounds to assume [Dave] falsified data in any of his work as a researcher. That’s a really serious accusation and I would not make it even jokingly.

    Of course, I have never in my life been accused of falsifying data, prior to this bizarre and defamatory claim by “Truth” Vigilante: indeed, I was scrupulously honest even in my undergrad lab classes.

    And, in fact, anyone can read my thesis online (see here) and see that I was analyzing other people’s data (and, of course I gave them appropriate credit): I was not reporting any of my own data that I could have falsified even had I been so inclined.

    That, by the way, is what “phenomenology” means in the context of physics: it basically means taking existing experimental data and doing a theoretical analysis on that data.

    In short, Truth Vigilante is simply lying through his teeth: he has no evidence at all that I ever falsified data (I did not), and anyone who bothered to look at my thesis would see that the thesis does not report on any data of my own.

    This is what Truth Vigilante always does.

    Lying is his sole and only occupation.

    What Truth Vigilante did here is, of course, libel, and I could sue him. But since he probably has no assets except for his classic beer can collection… well, I do not think it is worth my while.

    But I will keep linking back to his comment here — again and again and again and again! — to keep reminding everyone of what a pathetic liar “Truth” Vigilante is.

    This is a guy you would not want to buy a used guitar from. He really should be ashamed of himself.

    Truth Vigilante has some ulterior motive for what he is doing here. I think I know what it is.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @orchardist
  889. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote:

    One could take this to mean that we’re about half-way to a final solution to the Ukrainian Problem.

    We should point out that David P. Goldman (AKA “Spengler” as a columnist for the Asia Times) is Jewish (!), is a voice of the elite Establishment, and is in fact a committed Zionist (as shown, for example, by a column written shortly after October 7 — see here).

    So, does that mean Goldman should be ignored?

    Well… Goldman is smarter — a lot smarter! — than most Establishment pundits and often has important insights: he is worth reading even if one disagrees with him.

    The moral? It is a big error to dismiss smart people — even Zionists — simply because one disagrees with them.

    Stupid people should simply be ignored.

    Or pitied.

  890. @PhysicistDave

    Fizzy-cyst Dovid asserts:

    Truth “the Fed” Vigilante …. is using sick fantasies about 911 to distract attention from the very real and horrific crimes being committed today by the US regime — the mass murder in Gaza and Ukraine, the sexual mutilation of children who are confused about their “gender,” the totalitarian police state that is trying to jail political dissidents from Julian Assange

    Dovid Miller has said things along these lines a few times before, but it was so ridiculous that I felt it wasn’t worth addressing. But, seeing as I have a few minutes to kill, I’ll have some fun embarrassing Dovid Miller once again.

    Firstly, Dovid expresses fake concern for Julian Assange, yet simultaneously is ‘all-in’ for ZOG sock puppet Donald J Chump.
    Can you see the contradiction there UR readers? Because either you’re for Assange OR you’re for Trump. (Scroll up to my comment # 528 in this thread and watch the 1 min video where Donald J Chump comprehensively stabs Assange and Wikileaks in the back).

    FACT: Assange was dragged out of the Ecuadorian Embassy on Trump’s watch. Dovid Miller will counter that it is the British that did this to him and that Assange is in Britain’s Belmarsh prison.
    But even Blind Freddie can see that the British are loyal lap dogs of the U.S regime and did this to Assange because Trump’s administration put them up to it.

    Worse still, in the dying days of Chump’s tenure in office, he pardoned one Jewish miscreant after another (most of whom had committed the most heinous of crimes), but couldn’t work up the humanity to pardon the greatest journalist of the 21st century – a man who would win the Nobel Peace Prize ten years in succession if we lived in a just world.

    VERDICT: If you’re pro-Trump, you are FOR the incarceration/torture of Julian Assange until he dies.

    Dovid Miller mentions the situation in Gaza and Ukraine, pretending he’s some sort of saint.
    Let’s start with the UR threads relating to the Ukraine proxy war, which I have contributed to the extent of perhaps 100,000 words, with accompanying videos/links etc, exposing the crimes of the Anglo Zionist empire and its support of the Judeo-Ukrainian regime of that poisonous dwarf Zelensky.
    The absolute worst ZOG/ADL affiliated troll that has been supporting the Zelensky regime and the war mongering Anglo Zionist empire is a Jew by the name of John’s Johnson (he uses an Anglo Celtic handle to deflect attention away from the fact that he has a Talmudic dog in this race).
    There is no one, I repeat NO ONE, that has attacked and eviscerated John’s Johnson support for Zelensky regime in that proxy war (not to mention my attack dog mauling of this man in the Covid Psyop UR threads – yes, unsurprisingly J & J was in an apologist for ZOG owned Big Phrama and its toxic clot shot), more than I have. (Ask Ron Unz for confirmation on this).

    SUMMARY: What I said above also goes for the UR threads relating to mass murder of Palestinians by the Apartheid Israeli state in this Gaza war.
    If you have posted even ONE-TENTH of what I have in support of the Palestinians/praise for the Hama Freedom Fighters/Condemnation of the Anglo-Zionist empire etc, I would be very surprised.

    I’ll go even further than that. My support for the Palestinians goes back many years. I have actively been involved with the BDS movement in Australia (fundraising, attending demonstrations, making financial contributions etc).
    WHAT THE EFF HAVE YOU EVER DONE TO SUPPORT BDS?
    You allegedly wrote something 40 years years ago, mildly condemning the colonial settler illegal occupiers of Palestine, and have done jack shit in the interim.

    In relation to the sexual mutilation of children/transgender toilets/shower facilities etc, I’m aware that this is a larger issue in the U.S. Here in Australia it has not quite reached the chronic proportions that it has in the USSA, so it is not on the top of the list as far my priorities is concerned.
    But bear this in mind:

    ZOG has engineered all manner of distractions (eg: transgender/child sexual mutilation, DEI, ESG, Red state Vs Blue state, the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax and so forth, to DIVIDE and CONQUER.
    ZOG wants us bickering amongst ourselves so that it can DISTRACT US FROM THE BIG ISSUES.
    And there are NO BIGGER ISSUES THAN:

    i) The 9/11 False Flag (the most egregious crime of the 21st century so far – with the Covid Psyop/Mass cull of humanity through the toxic clot shots hot on its heels)

    ii) The JFK coup d’etat (the most egregious crime of the second half of the 20th century).

    And, in relation to UR threads that deal with these three ZOG orchestrated crimes, I am all over them – whilst you Dovid Miller are nowhere to be found (other than some minor input of disinfo peddling in one of the 9/11 treads a few months ago).

    SUMMARY: Fizzy-cyst Dovid Miller claims we should stop looking into the anomalies relating to the 9/11 False Flag (and presumably the JFK coup d’etat – seeing as he is nowhere to be found in those UR threads or makes mention of ZOG orchestration of the murder of JFK/RFK/JFK Jr), but that we should instead focus on the ‘big’ issues of child sexual mutilation and transgender toilets.
    ie: Dovid’s ADL/Shin Bet controllers have told him to DEFLECT attention away from the two most significant ZOG perpetrated crimes in our lifetimes, and to instead focus on peripheral issues.

    UR readers, do I need to spell it out for you and join the dots for you?
    It is CLEAR that Fizzy-cyst Dovid is a MINION OF ZOG, that he is peddling disinfo on behalf of his (((tribe))).
    FFS, by is own admission, he conceded that he worked for the CIA in the past. Can it be any more obvious how compromised this sad sack of a man really is?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  891. @Brás Cubas

    Brás Cubas wrote to me:

    The Gospel of Matthew was written at least five decades *after* Jesus’s death.

    The Gospel of Mark probably dates from c. AD 66–70,[5] Matthew and Luke around AD 85–90,[6] and John AD 90–110.[7]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel
    That means that Matthew was already approaching obsolescence when it was released into the world.

    I’ve been interested in this question for about fifty years, and have been casually following the scholarship over that period.

    What you quoted is indeed more or less the Establishment consensus.

    But the evidence is very, very weak.

    For example, the authentic Pauline Epistles (Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, Philemon) make no obvious references to the Gospels. So, perhaps — perhaps! — the Gospels were written later. And we have some, very rough, guesses as to Paul’s chronology.

    And the Gospels seem to have some veiled references to the destruction of the Second Temple as a result of Titus’ victory in AD 70. So, perhaps the Gospels were written after AD 70.

    And there are some vague — possible — references to the Gospels in writings of the Church Fathers early in the Second Century. So — maybe! — the Gospels were written before 100 AD.

    Or maybe not — it is all really this vague.

    The Gospels themselves are not dated internally nor do they say who their author is: we do know that the author of Luke consulted previous narratives — his is not an eyewitness account, as he himself makes clear.

    Some traditional Christians want to date the Gospels earlier than the scholarly consensus that you quote, to guarantee greater authenticity.

    Some scholars think the traditional dates are way too early.

    As far as I can tell, the late date for the Gospel of John is simply due to the fact that John has a very “High Christology”: Jesus makes claims for himself much more grandiose in John’s Gospel than in the three Synoptics.

    Scholars tend to assume that the Early Church took decades to develop this High Christology and that it was not promulgated by Jesus himself or by those who knew him during his life. I mean, if your were Jesus’ brother, as James the Just supposedly was, would you believe that Jesus, your big brother, existed before Abraham?

    But perhaps the Early Church actually did have a High Christology.

    No one really knows.

    A more fun historical issue, in my opinion, than 9/11.

    In any case, it is very hard to find serious scholars who truly believe that every word in the Gospels is literally true.

    The Gospels are clearly, in part, historical fiction.

    By the way, everyone, even fundamentalists, agrees that some “Gospels” were historical fiction: no one today believes that the Gospel of Peter and the Infancy Gospel of Thomas (not to be confused with the similarly named Gospel of Thomas) are literally true. Though they are entertaining.

    My own theory for the canonical Gospels: they were intended by their authors to be viewed as entertaining, edifying stories aimed at making theological points and were not intended to be taken as literally true.

    But who knows?

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas
  892. @Truth Vigilante

    Our NeverTrumper Truth ‘the Fed” Vigilante wrote about me:

    seeing as [Dave]’s been a dud in his field of expertise, and been shunned by fellow academics because he has a history of peddling junk science/been a serial offender in falsifying data…

    You do not even make any pretense of having any evidence at all that I have engaged in “falsifying data.”

    You are just making it up.

    You are just lying.

    That you would make up a lie this egregious about someone enormously better educated and accomplished than you…

    Well, I have referred to my patents: see here for the first patent on which I was co-inventor. And see here for another one on which I was the lead inventor. I have a number of others, but I will let you find them rather than posting a slew of links here.

    Now, in your entire life, what have you ever accomplished? At all?

    Except lying, again and again and again, about people who are your intellectual and moral superiors?

    After all, you do know that you are lying through your teeth in claiming that I have “been a serial offender in falsifying data.”

    Why not come clean and admit that you lie shamelessly all the time?

    Trust me: it will be cleansing for your soul, old pal.

    Really — good for your soul.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  893. @Anon

    Second of all there’s no grounds to assume he [Dovid Miller] falsified data in any of his work as a researcher.
    Third zog has nothing to do with his field of expertise physics research publications etc.

    Mev, are you serious?
    We’ve all observed that Fizzy-cyst Dovid LIES LIKE HE BREATHES. (Don’t take my word for it. Why not ask long time contributors to UR like Rurik, Iris, Old Philosopher and countless more, ALL OF WHOM will vouch for the fact that Fizzy Dov is a slimy snake that has no hesitation in telling some of the most outrageous whoppers).

    The people I have singled out above have a KNOWN HISTORY OF INTEGRITY, they’re not just some outliers.
    With that in mind, Dobid Miller is capable of anything. What’s got into you Mev?

    As for ZOG having nothing to do with Dovid’s field of expertise, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ZOG’S DEALINGS?
    Are you privy to the back room deals that these depraved misfits have engaged in?
    We KNOW FOR A FACT that:

    i) ZOG has interferred with the data/scientific research relating to the Covid Psyop, relating to the safety and efficacy of the experimental mRNA gene therapies that masquerade as vaccines.

    ii) ZOG has control of the entirety of western academia and has conjured/manipulated all manner of fake ‘research’ to support the preposterous notion of Anthropogenic Global Warming, so that it can propagate more gloom and doom and traumatise the kiddies

    iii) the ZOG controlled Ivy League universities are allowing admissions of disproportionately more Jews into these institutions, and rejecting Asian and gentile whites that scored far higher.

    SUMMARY: ZOG is presiding over ALL MANNER OF CORRUPTION.
    Is it really that hard to fathom that they’d allow a nitwit like Dovid Miller to graduate in Physics from Sanford and Son university, because he is one of the (((tribe))), despite his inability to grasp even High school level concepts like Newton’s Laws of Motion?

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  894. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…Well… Goldman is smarter — a lot smarter! — than most Establishment pundits and often has important insights: he is worth reading even if one disagrees with him.

    The moral? It is a big error to dismiss smart people — even Zionists — simply because one disagrees with them…’

    You must have missed my point. How was I either disagreeing with or dismissing Goldman?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  895. @PhysicistDave

    Just as with the JFK coup d’etat, where scores of key witnesses (like Dorothy Kilgallen), that threatened to blow the lid off the case met a premature demise, so it is with the 9/11 False Flag.
    Here is just a sampling among those that ZOG murdered in the aftermath of 9/11:

    SUMMARY: Picture the following scenario:
    A Goliath who is multiples larger than the WTC towers in NYC, appears in the early morning on the day of 9/11.
    He stomps on each of the towers in such a way that his huge boot applies a force spread precisely evenly on the top surface of each tower, and he keeps stomping with this EVENLY DISTRIBUTED FORCE until each tower has collapsed to the ground.
    Yes, in that scenario each of the towers could have fallen down into their own footprints, through the region of maximum resistance.
    But THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

    What we witnessed was an ASYMMETRICAL DAMAGE to each tower (plane impact on ONE SIDE of the building), resulting in a SYMMETRICAL COLLAPSE.
    The official ZOG dictated narrative on 9/11 says that the jet fuel fires weakened the steel structural supports in the region of the plane impacts, and precipitated a pancake collapse.
    This is bogus on multiple levels:

    1) NIST admitted that the jet fuel was all combusted in the first few minutes after the plane impact. Thereafter only office fires burned which would not have been anywhere near hot enough to even minutely weaken the high grade structural steel in the WTC, let alone cause it to buckle.
    BUT, for the sake of argument, let’s run with that implausible hypothesis and say that this actually occurred.
    What we do know is that the structural steel/concrete in the WTC towers BELOW the point of plane impact was NOT AFFECTED BY FIRE OR COMPROMISED IN ANY WAY from the plane impacts.
    In other words, the sections of the WTC towers below the plane impacts were ROCK SOLID and would have offered ENORMOUS RESISTANCE to any section of the building falling from above.

    Meanwhile, Building 7 was not struck by any planes, but had some relatively small fires on the 12th and 13th floors which quickly fizzled out. Yet that building collapsed a few hours AFTER the fires had gone out – at FREE FALL SPEED. (The WTC towers collapsed at near Free Fall speed).

    A building ONLY collapses at Free Fall* speed (or near free fall), IF there is NO RESISTANCE to prevent it from doing so. In other words, if ALL load bearing columns have been SYNCHRONOUSLY blown up.
    (*Remember, Free Fall speed is the same speed that a bowling ball would fall at if dropped from the top of a building. ie: absolutely nothing to slow it down other than some negligible air resistance).

    VERDICT: The symmetric collapses of the WTC towers and Bldg 7 are the SMOKING GUNS of 9/11.
    A tall building ONLY collapses into its own footprint IF it has been brought down in a Controlled Demolition. There have NEVER been any exceptions to that.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  896. @Truth Vigilante

    This will be my last comment on this thread. I asked people at church yesterday to put Dave Miller on their prayer chain, so now I will let God work on him.

    You ask:

    Mev, are you serious?

    I think it’s a good rule in life to minimize your disagreements with someone as much as possible. This is actually a principle of Talmudic study. In areas outside of 9/11, you and Dave have many points of agreement. It’s a shame to sabotage all that over 9/11.

    I don’t know why he takes his position on the towers collapse. In truth I have not been following his intricate arguments. I’ve studied 9/11 for many years, I was a truther activist for many years, I’ve reached my own conclusions, and I don’t try to persuade people about it. I think the evidence, both objective and circumstantial, is so overwhelming that a person who buys into the official narrative is willfully blind, stupid, or evil, as Richard Dawkins describes those who dispute evolution.

    I don’t think Dave is a knowing agent of ZOG. He’s too sincere, in a goofy sort of way. No Jew would EVER display a news article and photo of his collegiate-aged daughter on a website full of anonymous and hostile viewers. Dave is like a child: brimming with passion and anger and strangely deficient in filters. ZOG would never want him.

    You will never convince Dave that his position on the WTC collapse is wrong by attacking him personally, inventing accusations, and slandering and mocking him. I’ve done that to him in the past and I now regret it. Your approach will only make him more angry and harden his position. By exaggerating his errors and magnifying his treachery, you are inflating your claims, and just as you have pointed out so carefully with regard to economics and monetary policy, inflation only cheapens the value of your currency. When you inflate your claims against Dave, you are reducing the force of your arguments.

    Shalom Salaam Ping Peace Pax Pacem Mir Irini Frieden Amen.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  897. @PhysicistDave

    ” nuclear demolition (!) of the Twin Towers. That is just insane, for quite obvious reasons.”

    I’ll bite: what are the “obvious reasons”?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  898. Steve Sailer has relegated me to purgatory. My contributions to his comment section are now taking more than a day to even show up. He must have made up his mind. That’s too bad, but it will help ween me from reading and writing on his blog at all. That’s something I have wanted, so thank you, Steve. I have learned everything there is to learn from you, and you keep repeating and rehashing it all, over and over.

    I will continue to read Ron Unz, and some others on this site, and occasionally comment. Fewer, more careful comments, though, because Mr. Unz’s work, and that of some others sometimes, certainly merits more attention and consideration.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  899. Mark G. says:
    @Colin Wright

    I can remember near the beginning of the invasion saying in the comment section of Sailer’s blog that Russia would not lose because it had three times the population of the Ukraine and the Ukrainians would just run out of men first. This seemed pretty obvious to me. To my surprise, though, a commenter over there who goes by the name of “HA” responded by saying the Russians were already running out of men and were having to pull men out of Russian prisons to put in the army.

    Of course, it ended up that the Russians did not run out of men first. Our Ukraine intervention has turned out about as well as our previous Afghanistan and Vietnam interventions.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  900. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    You must have missed my point. How was I either disagreeing with or dismissing Goldman?

    Oh, I knew you were not disagreeing with Dave Goldman, and I also know that you are sane enough that you do not simply dismiss someone simply because he happens to be a Jewish Zionist, which Goldman is. Personally, I find maybe 70 % of what Goldman says to be interesting and perhaps 30 % to just be propaganda.

    I just wanted to elaborate on your comment to make the important point that it is wrong to dismiss everything a Jewish Zionist says simply because he is a Jewish Zionist. The same, of course, applies to Marxists, fundamentalists, and everyone else.

    On the other hand, if someone is proven to be downright dishonest or simply profoundly stupid, it is fair to ignore what he says — even if he holds the “right” view on some important issue.

    Again, I know that you grasp this, but a lot of people here certainly don’t.

  901. @Mark G.

    ‘I can remember near the beginning of the invasion saying in the comment section of Sailer’s blog that Russia would not lose because…’

    I recall saying that Russia would not lose because it could not afford to lose.

    To put it differently, the only way we were ever going to get Russia to accept a Ukraine that was part of an alliance targeting her was to smash the Russian state. We weren’t going to do that, so…

  902. @orchardist

    orchardist wrote to me:

    [Dave] ” nuclear demolition (!) of the Twin Towers. That is just insane, for quite obvious reasons.”

    I’ll bite: what are the “obvious reasons”?

    I’m not really interested in reopening the old Mark Gaffney thread — you can look back there.

    In a nutshell, you would have expected a lot of radiation, a nuclear fireball, etc.

    More than anything, the mechanisms that Gaffney and the guy he was following were proposing were just goofy — Rube Goldberg type of stuff.

    As far as I know, no real physicist ever took it seriously — but an awful lot of the 911 Truthers did.

    This is one of many reasons why my opinion of the average IQ of 911 Truthers is very, very low indeed. Only really, really stupid or extremely gullible people would fall for this.

    The normal scientific method would be to gather evidence and then look for a hypothesis to explain the evidence.

    What the 911 Truthers do is the inverse: they have arrived at the conclusion that the scientifically correct explanation of the fall of the Twin Towers must be wrong, and then they try to come up with bizarre “proofs” as to why this is so.

    It is the exact opposite of normal science — or normal sanity.

    This is not science or normal forensic techniques — with the 911 Truthers we are dealing with a very, very bizarre religion.

    And when you challenge someone’s religious faith… well, you get the reaction that I myself have gotten from the 911 Truthers.

  903. @Truth Vigilante

    \Truth Vigilante wrote about me:

    seeing as [Dave]’s been a dud in his field of expertise, and been shunned by fellow academics because he has a history of peddling junk science/been a serial offender in falsifying data…

    The claim that I have been “a serial offender in falsifying data” is a vicious and preposterous lie for which you have no evidence and for which you could not have any evidence.

    You do not even claim to have evidence for that vicious libel.

    You just made it up as a vicious lie.

    You are truly a deeply evil person.

    I am going to keep bringing up this vicious libel for as long as you choose to continue to post on this site.

    This is proof of who you are. Sold and irrefutable proof.

    No sane or decent person will ever take you seriously again on this site, unless and until you sincerely and deeply apologize for this lie and for all of the other lies you have propounded.

    Not ever again.

  904. @Buzz Mohawk

    Buzz Mohawk wrote:

    Steve Sailer has relegated me to purgatory. My contributions to his comment section are now taking more than a day to even show up. He must have made up his mind. That’s too bad, but it will help ween me from reading and writing on his blog at all.

    My best theory is that Sailer thinks he can go “mainstream” now that his book has been published, and that people like you and me will be used against him.

    Which shows why Sailer will never be accepted as mainstream.

    As near as I can tell, my own mortal sin consists of the fact that I am willing to point to certain indisputable parts of the Hebrew Bible (AKA the Old Testament) that show that what Judaism is and always has been about is the Jewish god YHWH demanding genocide against anyone who gets in the way of the Jews.

    This is hardly an eccentric point to make in 2024: indeed, Netanyahu himself made it plainly when he recently invoked “Amalek,” which is the best-known example of divinely-ordered genocide in the Hebrew Bible (there are of course many others). Unfortunately, the genocidal nature of Judaism is not an antiquarian issue — it is as timely as the latest podcast.

    As mainstream an academic as John Mearsheimer has declared that what Israel is doing in Gaza is in fact genocide. And the International Court of Justice has of course held that there is sufficient reason to think that Israel is committing genocide that the Court has ordered Israel to desist.

    Indeed, the Zionist regime is now openly demanding ethnic cleansing of Rafah, where there are something like a million refugees, in the south of Gaza.

    Quite simply, to point out that Judaism is about genocide is now so mainstream that everyone from Rashida Tlaib to Bibi Netanyahu to John Mearsheimer to the World Court more or less admits this quite obvious fact.

    But Sailer is afraid of that fact, I fear.

    The funny thing is that Steve has gone into great detail on matters relating to race that will get him into a great deal more trouble than merely allowing his commenters to quote the Old Testament!

    So, hopefully, Ron Unz will keep all of Steve’s old posts up here, however Steve may choose to move on, so that the Establishment can see who Steve really is.

    If Steve does manage to move towards mainstream status, I myself am certainly willing to help mainstream pundits explore some of Steve’s more… interesting… views.

    This could be fun.

    A man should have the courage to be a man.
    ————–
    * The undisputed evil of Judaism does not mean that anyone of Jewish descent is evil, anymore than descendants of slave owners are responsible for slavery. On the contrary, numerous White Gentiles — mainly Evangelical Christians — endorse and even celebrate the genocides related in the Old Testament as well as the ongoing genocide in Gaza today. And many people of Jewish descent condemn both.

    Nonetheless, it is true that Judaism itself is fundamentally evil. And I think that fact frightens Steve Sailer.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  905. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…This is one of many reasons why my opinion of the average IQ of 911 Truthers is very, very low indeed. Only really, really stupid or extremely gullible people would fall for this…’

    I think most people make the equivalent error in one form or another; they convince themselves that what they would like to be true is true. God, Israel, the Nazis, the Holocaust, racial differences, sexual differences, Mao, global warming…and more. People take positions on all of these that owe a great deal to their emotional preferences and very little to a dispassionate consideration of the facts.

    So in at least a sense, 9/11 Truthers aren’t really, really stupid or extremely gullible. They’re pretty normal. Consider the list I just gave. The average person holds views on at least several of these that are indefensible. Why? Because he wishes it were so. He believes in God because he finds it intolerable that there isn’t a God. He thinks Israel is good because he would prefer it if it was. He thinks all races are equal because the alternative is awkward. He decides global warming isn’t real because action would be required if it was. Etc.

    Even if he happens to be right, it’s virtually coincidental. He arrived at his position as a result of wishful thinking, not after a consideration of the evidence.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  906. @Anon

    My little pal Mikey Korn wrote to me:

    This is the way the Jews operate.

    I’m not quite sure how to break this to you… but… you see… Mikey, you are a Jew!

    If “the Jews” really run the country, you must be in on it.

    So, tell us: did they give you your secret ZOG decoder ring at your bar mitzvah?

    Or was it only when you got out of Harvard that you got the secret decoder ring?

    And how old do you have to be before you get your first invite to the national meeting of the Elders of Zion? I mean, you don’t have to literally be an “elder,” do you?

    And if you Jews control the country, when are you going to put one of your own in the White House? Or is Biden actually a Jew pretending to be a Roman Catholic, kinda like the Dönme in Turkey?

    And why are you guys less than ten percent of the Senate and even less in the House? Or are most of the “Gentiles” really Jews in those bodies also?

    And if “the Jews” rule the country, why can’t they get their way on gun control, Roe v. Wade, etc.?

    You’re one of them: you have the inside track! Tell us more, Mikey!

    Mikey also wrote to me:

    One more thing concerning your contempt for Jesus of Nazareth. Remember back then there were no nuclear physicists or Stanford Universities. Jesus was one of the great wise men of his day even if he wasn’t a scientist like you.

    Really? Who thought he was wise?

    Not the Romans who crucified him, I guess! Or the Jews.

    And look at the idiocy he promulgated: no one really thinks all that counts as wisdom.

    What if decent and responsible people actually followed his admonition to “resist not evil” and “turn the other cheek”? The thugs would have a field day! Decent people would be at their mercy.

    Which is why no one actually does that.

    People pretend to admire that commandment, but in reality they treat it with contempt.

    And of course there is Jesus’ delusional psychosis that we have discussed in detail, as revealed in M. 24 and Mark 9, that the End Times and the Second Coming were imminent.

    Hasn’t happened. He was a nutjob.

    And a very nasty nutjob indeed! You in fact have been channeling him for the last month with your evil statements about the Lake of Fire and all the rest.

    You are an evil person.

    And so was Jesus of Nazareth.

    The evil Michael Korn also wrote:

    I can promise you that your advocacy for the bogus government narrative about the 9/11 attacks simply emboldens the Israelis more and more in their campaign to use and abuse America for their own strategic purposes.

    I am simply pointing out some basic facts of physics concerning the crack-pot theories pushed by Mark Gaffney, Truth Vigilante, et al. about the collapse of the Twin Towers — viz., that it was a nuclear explosion, that gravity-driven collapse violated Newton’s Third Law of Motion, that the planes were really holograms, and all the rest.

    I realize that you yourself received no actual education when you attended Harvard (in what subject did they give you a degree?) and so you cannot understand it.

    But what I have said is nonetheless true.

    Does my publicly stating these truths somehow help the Israeli Zionists?

    I. Simply. Don’t. Care.

    I will tell the truth regardless of whom it helps or hurts.

    The truth is that the Twin Towers came down as a result of Islamic terrorists who flew planes into the Towers, producing fires that weakened the support structure, leading to a cascading gravity-driven collapse.

    Did Mossad or the CIA or MI6 have advance knowledge that they did not act upon that could have stopped this?

    Could be.

    Is the US government still holding back on information it has about the involvement of others, perhaps the Saudi regime, in the terrorist attack?

    Wouldn’t surprise me.

    Did Mossad or the CIA or whatever actually plan and engineer the terrorist attack?

    Well.. that would surprise me, but I can’t completely rule it out.

    But the physics is what it is.

    Truth Vigilante, Mark Gaffney, and their pals are presenting utter nonsense that violates basic principles of physics.

    Because they are, after all, pathological liars and mental imbeciles.

    And, I am afraid, so are you.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  907. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    So in at least a sense, 9/11 Truthers aren’t really, really stupid or extremely gullible. They’re pretty normal. Consider the list I just gave. The average person holds views on at least several of these that are indefensible. Why? Because he wishes it were so.

    Well, I’d disagree in two respects.

    First, and most critically, the beliefs you mention seem to be motivated largely by a desire to identify with a group. People’s obviously false beliefs are motivated less by a desire to hold that specific belief (how many people have an innate desire to believe in the Virgin Birth?) than because adhering to obviously false beliefs proves their allegiance to some identity group.

    In the words of my favorite quote from Vonnegut:

    And here, according to Trout, was the reason human beings could not reject ideas because they were bad: “Ideas on Earth were badges of friendship or enmity. Their content did not matter. Friends agreed with friends, in order to express friendliness. Enemies disagreed with enemies, in order to express enmity.

    “The ideas Earthlings held didn’t matter for hundreds of thousands of years, since they couldn’t do much about them anyway. Ideas might as well be badges as anything.

    “They even had a saying about the futility of ideas: ‘If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.’

    “And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense or decency or self-preservation, but for friendliness.

    “Earthlings went on being friendly, when they should have been thinking instead. And even when they built computers to do some thinking for them, they designed them not so much for wisdom as for friendliness. So they were doomed. Homicidal beggars could ride.”

    Beliefs, for human beings, are largely badges of group identity, and, for that purpose, a certain degree of absurdity is a feature, not a bug.

    Applied to our 911 Truther friends, why should they have any desire to believe in some crack-pot idea such as that the planes were holograms or that the collapse was a nuclear explosion? Do such beliefs make them happy? I would think that such beliefs would make them terrified, and they certainly seem to be rather unhappy people!

    But what the 911 Truthers’ beliefs do achieve is to give them a sense that they are members of a special elite, an “Inner Ring” to use C. S. Lewis’ term (see here). And that belief that they are members of a privileged group with esoteric knowledge most certainly does matter to them!

    All of the active 911 Truthers here seem to be sad people who are failures in life by any normal standard: almost none of them are willing to reveal their actual identities, to allude to any actual success or achievements they have had in life, etc.

    They are losers.

    But now they are special because they are members of a group that has insights about what happened on 911 denied to us mere ordinary Muggles. Notice how important the group AE911Truth is to Truth Vigilante.

    By the way, the anthropologist and philosopher Ernest Gellner had this as one of his major themes: natural science in the last five centuries is really the first belief system which put the beliefs outside the control of the social group, indeed which aggressively sought out evidence that might undermine the core beliefs. And repeatedly scientists have done that — relativity dramatically undermined physicists’ belief in the absolute nature of space and time, for example.

    No religion does that, and certainly our 911 Truther friends do not do that!

    Why do I think that makes our 911 Truther far, far dumber and crazier than most ordinary people?

    First, because they are so fanatic as to foolishly defend their idiocy in front of people who clearly know better than they do.

    Tell the average Catholic that chemistry shows that the wine and the wafer remain wine and wafer and not blood and flesh, and he just shrugs. (Try it: I have.) The average Catholic does not really care what you or I think: the dogma serves its goal of proving his loyalty to the Church, and that is its purpose. He can mouth the words and not try to argue chemistry, and be happy.

    Our 911 Truthers can’t. Indeed, they are reduced to idiotic behavior such as Truth Vigilante libeling me by claiming I am guilty of falsifying data, when, of course, he has no evidence of that at all and it just discredits him in front of sane people.

    Catholics have more sense.

    Second and connected, Catholics were born into it. They were taught as children that the Virgin Birth was real, that the Resurrection actually occurred, etc. That they believed it as children is not a surprise (didn’t you believe at one point that reindeer could fly?). And that the false beliefs lingered on into adulthood is not too hard to understand.

    Indeed, if you talk to lots of Christian adults, they have some sense that a lot of the beliefs are more than a bit iffy. But they keeping mouthing the words because they don’t want to offend their family, their fellow congregants, etc.

    Our 911 Truther friends lack that excuse. They were not born into this cult: they actively joined it as adults.

    Am I saying that the original ancient Christians were as crazy as our 911 Truthers, a lot crazier than modern Christians?

    Isn’t that obvious? Read Paul’s Epistles to the Corinthians and ask yourself how those psychos would fit in to a nice suburban Catholic parish or Episcopalian church today!

    Beyond that, our 911 Truthers are just really, really nasty people. I have argued with countless Christians who are indeed rather fervent about their beliefs. Very, very few are as evil as our 911 Truthers.

    So, yes, most human beings are a little bit nuts. But our 911 Truther friends are far more nuts than the norm.

    They are indeed psychotics and intellectual imbeciles.

    Take “Truth Vigilante.” Please!

    How many Christians have you known who have fabricated blatantly, bizarrely false accusations against you when they found out that you did not share their beliefs?

    But Truth Vigilante does just that, as when he recently claimed:

    seeing as [Dave]’s been a dud in his field of expertise, and been shunned by fellow academics because he has a history of peddling junk science/been a serial offender in falsifying data…

    There is something very, very wrong with this guy mentally, far, far worse than the delusions held by the average fundamentalist Christian or orthodox Catholic.

    This is not normal human behavior.

    Truth Vigilante truly is psychotic.

    • Replies: @niceland
    , @Colin Wright
  908. @Michael Korn

    In areas outside of 9/11, you and Dave have many points of agreement. It’s a shame to sabotage all that over 9/11.

    Mev, can you see what you’re saying? It’s akin to saying:
    ‘You and that fellow have so many points of agreement, it’s such a shame to sabotage it just because he’s a serial killer’.

    This is no exaggeration. Fizzy-cyst Dovid is AIDING AND ABETTING the perpetrators of the 9/11 False Flag. This is an extremely dastardly thing that he does.
    Many of you will be thinking to yourself, why am I (an Aussie) concerned about the 3000 or so people that died in the U.S on 9/11?
    In fact, there were hundreds of foreign nationals working in the WTC towers that day that died, and among those on the alleged hijacked planes – some of whom were Australian.
    But 9/11 is much bigger than that. Because of this ZOG orchestrated False Flag, it DIRECTLY led to belligerent U.S military intervention that (in the words of Paul Craig Roberts) resulted in:

    ‘The killing, maiming, orphaning, displacement and dispossession of TENS OF MILLIONS’.

    Well Mev, I speak for those millions that don’t have a voice. The few thousand Americans that died that day and those of the soldiers that were sacrificed thereafter in subsequent conflicts, are just a pinprick in the full context of the damage wrought by the Anglo Zionist empire.

    In any case, in relation to the alleged commonality I have with Fizzy Dov, seeing as he’s a fraud, you shouldn’t believe anything this mendacious fool says.
    He claims he’s a Libertarian, yet he’s not for the abolition of the ZOG owned Federal Reserve.
    Dr Ron Paul is the poster boy of Libertarianism in the world today, just as Rothbard was when he was alive. BOTH of them repeatedly emphasised the malfeasance of the Fed and knew it was the source of the exacerbated boom/bust cycles and inflationary episodes.
    FFS, Dovid Miller does not even acknowledge that the Fed is owned by a private cartel of depraved Zionist bankers. He still thinks it is a government department accountable to Congress and the voting constituency. He has NO EFF’N IDEA.

    You also write:

    I think the evidence [for the controlled demolition of the WTC towers and Bldg7 on 9/11], both objective and circumstantial, is so overwhelming that a person who buys into the official narrative is willfully blind, stupid, or evil

    Agreed. ALL objective observers think that way.

    So, if Fizzy Dov is a Fizzy-cyst (as he claims), he would know FOR SURE that the USG/NIST/ZOG dictated official narrative on 9/11 is fraudulent.
    That leaves only one possibility: The Dovid Miller is EVIL and working in cahoots with the ADL or some other malignant ZOG affiliated entity.

    With that in mind, WHY THE EFF ARE YOU MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS POS?
    WHY are you saying he’s ‘too sincere’, when it is obvious that he doesn’t have a sincere bone in his body? This man is a conscience free opportunist, who’ll sell out to the highest bidder every time.
    We KNOW THIS FOR CERTAIN after he said he’d debate Dr Kevin Barrett for a six figure sum.
    It’s all about the money for him. He’s never done anything for anyone gratis in his whole miserable life. It’s always about: ‘What’s in it for me’ and “Is it good for the Jews’.

    Next, let’s move on to this statement of yours:

    I think it’s a good rule in life to minimize your disagreements with someone as much as possible.

    I don’t seek conflicts with anyone, and try to diffuse every situation that threatens to escalate.
    That said, in relation to the criminal acts being perpetrated by ZOG on humanity, I go out of my way to be confrontational with those that are aiding and abetting ZOG’s attempts to cull/impoverish the citizenry of the world. Case in Point:

    During the Covid Psyop I never wore a face mask for even one second. This despite some hefty penalties in my locale for not doing so. I went into shopping malls, used public transport and went to other places where mask wearing was deemed compulsory.
    I always approached other non mask wearers and chatted with them, thanked them for having the guts to do the right thing and expressed my solidarity for their courage.
    The following is an actual example (one among many confrontations I had with Covid busy bodies) of what happened when I tried to enter a supermarket and was stopped by a store employee handing out free face masks:

    Employee: Here you are sir, you can have a free face mask.
    Me: I don’t need one.
    Employee: It is store policy/government mandated that everyone that enters must wear one.
    Me: Masks don’t do anything, I don’t need one. (The employee thereafter calls over the store manager).

    Manager: Sir, why is it that you don’t need to wear a mask? What affliction do you have that prevents you from wearing a mask? Do you have an exemption*?
    (*I did not have a medical exemption so I avoided responding to that).

    Me: Are you aware that you have just broken the law? The medical history of any individual is a private matter between doctor and patient. By asking me what I was afflicted with, you have opened up your store to legal action and you risk losing your job.
    I am not normally a litigious person and I’m willing to let this pass if you’ll allow me to just do my shopping.

    Manager: Thank you very much. Please come in and have a nice day.

    Meanwhile, a couple of dozen other shoppers had been watching all of this and I got a a muffled cheer from their direction as I was allowed to enter the store. Several of them took off their face masks and a couple others slipped theirs down below the chin.

    BOTTOM LINE: If only 10% of us did what I did and not wore a mask, if we also did what I did (I never observed curfews/self imposed isolation etc, and went where I wanted , when I wanted and never took the toxic clot shots ), the Covid Psyop would have fizzled out in a few weeks.
    They can’t arrest all of us.

    These are little things we can all do that send a message to the ruling class. ie: we will not stand for the tyranny, we will PUSH BACK on the snitches and automatons among us that like to lord over us. We will NOT be passive and we will make life uncomfortable for those brain dead citizens that blindly follow all government edicts, without using their critical thinking faculties.

    Lastly, you said this:

    You will never convince Dave that his position on the WTC collapse is wrong by attacking him personally, inventing accusations, and slandering and mocking him.
    Your approach will only make him more angry and harden his position.

    Mev, you just don’t get it, do you ?
    In the same way that I go into attack dog mode with the individual in UR using the handle Mulga Mumblebrain when he propagates his Global Warming hysteria, I’m well aware that Dovid Miller does not have the moral fibre to ever admit he’s wrong.
    As I said before, I WANT Fizzy Dov to get angrier and angrier until he has a brain aneuryism.
    You see, the world is full of people peddling the official 9/11/NIST fable, of people that think the Covid vaxxes were safe and effective, of people that think the Judeo-Ukrainian regime are the good guys in their proxy war with Russia, and people peddling Climate Armageddon and smearing the ‘Gas of Life’ (aka CO2).

    And there are NO CONSEQUENCES for most of these people/ No one pushes back, everyone just lets them say their nonsense (whether they do it deliberately like Dovid Miller on behalf of the tribe or whether they do it in the capacity of useful idiots is not important).
    What I’m saying is that if more of us showed some courage and went out of our way to EMBARRASS those that are peddling these lies, then those individuals would think twice before repeating the official government B.S on any matter.
    Imporantly also, said slap downs are most effective when an audience is watching. You see, there are OTHER PEOPLE that think like I do on the matter of the Covid vaxx, on 9/11, on Anthropogenic Global Warming etc, and these people are watching and listening in the background as I’m berating and mocking that fool who is pushing the establishment B.S narrative.
    Can you see what I’m doing here Mev?

    I want people to know that THEY ARE NOT ALONE, that there are OTHERS THAT ARE CALLING OUT THE COVID TYRANNY AS B.S, calling out 9/11, Global Warming hysteria etc.
    I’ve been to several anti-vaxx, Pro-Palestinian, pro Julian Assange demonstrations etc, and I go out of my way to talk to a lot people, to express solidarity and thank them for their participation.
    Do you have any idea how empowering it is for many of these people to know that THEY’RE NOT ALONE. Moreover, when accompanied by tens of thousands of like minded individuals, all shouting and chanting, you really have to be there to understand the feelings of euphoria that are generated.

    I’m not saying I go into attack dog mode immediately when someone disagrees with me. I always use friendly persuasion. I always relay facts that are contrary to their preconceived notions. I try to plant a seed of doubt in their minds and hopefully at some point in the future they’ll look into the matter and do some independent research of their own.

    BUT, when it is clear that someone is spreading malicious lies (as Dovid Miller does constantly), then the gloves are off. I will metaphorically beat him to pulp and expose him to the UR readership for the vile little man that he is (as I’ve done with other disinfo peddlers like John’s Johnson, Curvanus, Mean Joo Joo, Patrick ‘Mordechai’ McNally, Wizard of ZOG and scores of others).

    This what I (and many others here in UR are doing). Think of it as ‘Pest Control’.

    • Replies: @Anon
  909. @PhysicistDave

    When Orchardist asked the very sensible question ‘Why can nukes be ruled out in the demolition of the WTC towers’,Dovid Miller responded with:

    In a nutshell, you would have expected a lot of radiation, a nuclear fireball, etc.

    Dovid, you’re still living in the 1940’s. Nukes have come a hell of a long way since then.
    Tactical mini and micro nukes have been around for over 60 years.
    By definition a tactical nuke is employed for tactical reasons. For example when you want to take an isolated position that offers strategic advantage, like a hill or high ground that is occupied with a smallish quantity of enemy combatants, or perhaps even a bridge*.

    *The best targets for tactical nukes are bridges. It is very difficult to destroy a bridge with conventional artillery.
    A tactical nuke with 0.1 -1 Kt range will completely destroy a bridge.

    Just think about the block quoted piece above, which I took from an article on the use of Tactical nukes. Bridges are made of high grade structural steel, just like the sort of structural steel you’d find in a skyscraper, so would’ve been perfect to use in bringing down each of the WTC towers.

    So, getting back to the use of a tactical nuke to take a strategically important position on the battlefield, because of the need to quickly occupy said position soon after wiping out the enemy situated there, it would be imperative to ensure that your soldiers did not suffer from radiation after moving in to that newly acquired position.

    So they designed low yield nukes* that had ZERO or NEGLIGIBLE RADIATION fall out.

    ‘Little Boy’, the nuke they used on Hiroshima, was in the region of 12-15 kT equivalent of TNT.
    Mini nukes (say around 0.1-0.5 kT) and micro nukes (which are an order of magnitude even smaller), are tiny by comparison.
    Such tiny nukes appear to have been used floor by floor sequentially, starting at just below the point of aircraft impact on each of the WTC towers, and working their way down to perhaps the 20th-30th floors.
    We know that firefighters and some survivors were trapped in the stairwell near the bottom of the Nth tower and survived, so clearly no nukes/explosives were used in the lower floors.

    Think about it, WHY the need for overkill and blowing up all the floors right down to the ground?
    Explosive charges (mini/micro nukes) were only used for the top three quarters of each WTC tower.
    The falling debris from the upper sections of the building that were not pulverised into fine dust, would be more than sufficient to crush most of the lower floors.

  910. niceland says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Truth Vigilante truly is psychotic.

    Besides the all the lies about his opponents. Obvious lies about things he couldn’t possibly know. He basically goes way over the proverbial far fetched reasonable top on all issues and wreaks havoc on the discussion. Be it Covid, 911, Zionist, history and so on. It’s interesting how hostile he is to ambiguity.

    If the ‘ZOG’ is real – it couldn’t ask for a better friend in the discussion here. According to T.V it’s all seeing all powerful entity hellbent on enslaving the world. Even people with overly active imagination and limited reasoning skills roll their eyes and walk away.

    The drug industry, CDC et.al when it comes to Covid are likely cheering him on. T.V’s steamroller crushes and bypasses most questionable issues by claiming the vaxx was mass killer poison intended to cull the heard (for ‘ZOG’).

    The perpetrators of 911 (assuming foul play) same story. They can rest comfortably while T.V goes on and on about nukes or remote airplanes while attacking any and all reasonable claims and people who may have something valuable to contribute.

    Ironically he is his own circular firing squad destroying whatever cause he claims to be rooting for. I guess it’s possible there is no irony here and this is the intention.

  911. @niceland

    Niceman, I see you’re still seething over he numerous times I exposed you as an apologist for ZOG malfeasance.

    Yes UR readers, this is the same ‘Niceman’ that claimed the ‘vaccines’ were safe and effective throughout the Covid Psyop.

    • Replies: @Anon
  912. Anon[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Thanks for the response. Very comprehensive. Good explanation. You seem like an amazing person. I don’t know anyone in America with your degree of zealousness and virtue. Between you and God, David Miller doesn’t have much chance to remain obdurate.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
    • LOL: Che Guava
  913. Anon[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @niceland

    Hmmm. I recall from my yeshiva days that one biblical term for the Land of Israel is “nice land” [Eretz Chemda]. That would seem to describe your home office, right?

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  914. @niceland

    ‘If the ‘ZOG’ is real – it couldn’t ask for a better friend in the discussion here. According to T.V it’s all seeing all powerful entity hellbent on enslaving the world. Even people with overly active imagination and limited reasoning skills roll their eyes and walk away.’

    It’s my belief that the (largely) Jewish media/political establishment is perfectly happy with the more extreme varieties of 9/11 Trutherism: the hypotheses are incredible, and so ordinary people plump for the orthodox narrative instead, and there are no problems. The sheep continue to be contented.

    What they really don’t like is if you head down the Dancing Israelis/why did the FBI hold those people for eleven weeks/ etc route. That’s creditable, verifiable, and leads to some very awkward questions concerning Israel’s relationship to us.

    So the 9/11 Truthers are serving a purpose — they’re just badly mistaken about whose purpos

    • Agree: niceland
  915. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    To accompany Fizzy-Cyst how about:
    Scheißland???!!! 😆👍👏

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  916. @PhysicistDave

    Well, I think that you can also see Truth Vigilante et al as part of a group: those that oppose the pro-Israel, anti-Muslim faction.

    Here we run into another human failing: the need to see the world in black and white. If Israel is bad, it follows that Islam must be good. Therefore, Islam could not have spawned a group of murderous terrorists who deliberately killed thousands of innocent Americans. 9/11 must have been a complete hoax.

    We see the same with the Ukraine war, by the way. Russia bad — ergo, Ukraine good. Alternatively, Russia good, therefore Ukraine bad. That they — like most of the world — are two shades of grey is a concept that most seem incapable of grasping.

    If only the world were that way. We could get the bad man, and everyone left would be saints. Sadly, the truth is that Israel certainly had a hand in 9/11 — but the actual perpetrators really were Muslim terrorists. Whatever to do?

    ‘…Am I saying that the original ancient Christians were as crazy as our 911 Truthers, a lot crazier than modern Christians?

    Isn’t that obvious? Read Paul’s Epistles to the Corinthians and ask yourself how those psychos would fit in to a nice suburban Catholic parish or Episcopalian church today!

    It occurs to me that there’s a common thread here. Both your primitive Christians and your Truth Vigilantes appear in worlds in which the traditional order of things and the accepted explanations have been upset. Perhaps the arrival of the Roman Empire was just as unsettling as some of the trends of today. In both cases, we have people seeking radically new explanations.

    And finding them! I still remember the lady in the Walmart return line telling me that Angela Merkel was Hitler’s love child.

    ‘…Beyond that, our 911 Truthers are just really, really nasty people. I have argued with countless Christians who are indeed rather fervent about their beliefs. Very, very few are as evil as our 911 Truthers.

    So, yes, most human beings are a little bit nuts. But our 911 Truther friends are far more nuts than the norm.

    They are indeed psychotics and intellectual imbeciles.

    Take “Truth Vigilante.” Please!’

    I’ve noticed similar with Holocaust deniers. Not all of them — but some promptly become very abusive when you state — however politely — that it is your conviction that the Holocaust really did happen.

    …but you really should give up jousting with Truth Vigilante. I blocked him long ago. Once someone reaches a certain product of abrasiveness, lack of worthwhile insight, and no entertainment value, he goes on my list. Past a point, there really is nothing to be gained — and Vigilante’s posts were so long! They were blocking up the whole page.

  917. ANON[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    I never realized what a total asshole you are Colon Wrong until i read this:

    Here we run into another human failing: the need to see the world in black and white. If Israel is bad, it follows that Islam must be good. Therefore, Islam could not have spawned a group of murderous terrorists who deliberately killed thousands of innocent Americans. 9/11 must have been a complete hoax.

    So you say Dr. Alan Sabrosky and numerous officials in European intelligence all are wrong (like your handle) to say 9/11 was a Zionist false flag hoax?

    And what about these chaps?

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wU8oDFtmUmnM67Gqxrw0Mz-q_T0o1Ai6/view?usp=drive_link
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/17iPf-NHxnZcU0OSLDmeAxJA4JGHFK0GK/view?usp=drive_link
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vxleanvbiItRRMIF_pEHXRn8rap42Tro/view?usp=drive_link

    What exactly is your expertise to trust the official narrative besides being a credulous fool or a disinformation agent?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  918. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to niceland:

    It’s my belief that the (largely) Jewish media/political establishment is perfectly happy with the more extreme varieties of 9/11 Trutherism: the hypotheses are incredible, and so ordinary people plump for the orthodox narrative instead, and there are no problems. The sheep continue to be contented.

    Yeah.

    Suppose it could be proven that the 911 atrocities were in fact a controlled demolition carried out by a rogue faction in the US government. (As far as I know, even the most fervent of the 911 Truthers do not think it was the entire US government! I..e., they do not think that Ron Paul was involved, even though he was part of the government at the time.)

    What would happen?

    Well… the guilty parties would be put on trial, convicted, and sent to prison or executed.

    The ruling elite would announce that they had ferreted out a handful of bad apples among them and meted out to them their just deserts. They’d pass some new laws and regulations “to make sure it never happened again,” hire some new bureaucrats to oversee the other bureaucrats, etc.

    The Establishment would come out of this just fine. With a modest amount of PR skill, they could actually spin this as a real plus for the current ruling elite.

    Just as they came out of the Bay of Pigs, the Tonkin Gulf fraud, the Watergate fiasco, and so many other scandals just fine.

    On the other hand, what was the actual casus belli that bin Laden laid out for the 911 attacks?

    Bin Laden gave several reasons, most prominently:

    – US support for Israeli repression of the Palestinians
    – US actions against Iraq
    – US stationing of troops in the Muslim Holy Land (Saudi Arabia)

    Take those reasons seriously, and you start having some very, very serious questions about current US foreign policy.

    And, indeed, over the last few months, the ruling elite has been squealing about young people reading and taking seriously what bin Laden wrote.

    I am of course not an admirer of bin Laden, nor do I rule out that somehow Mossad had its fingers in all this: that Mossad might, for example, have had forewarning of the attacks and intentionally failed to warn the US.

    But what is actually most damning for the current US ruling elite is actually the conventional explanation: 911 was blowback for the disastrous US foreign policy which continues to this day.

    By the way, a similar point applies to, say, the attack on Pearl. We know that FDR intentionally provoked that attack: that was obvious to anyone carefully reading the newspapers at the time and was confirmed in 1945 when Secretary of War Stimson testified before the Congress that FDR told his top aides on November 25, 1941 that Japan would soon attack and it was important that Japan be maneuvered into firing the first shot.

    But the “Pearl Harbor Truthers” want to claim that the US government actually knew that the Imperial fleet was attacking Pearl on the morning of December 7. And that does not really matter. What does matter is the larger point that FDR was intentionally provoking war with Japan. And, thanks to Stimson, that is known to be true beyond any shadow of a doubt. From Stimson’s diary:

    “[FDR] brought up the event that we were likely to be attacked perhaps next Monday [December 1], for the Japanese are notorious for making an attack without warning, and the question was what we should do. The question was how we should maneuver them into the position of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.”

    (My own opinion, by the way, is that underlings did have information that suggested that Japan was attacking Pearl on December 7, but that information probably did not work its way all the way up the chain of command in a timely manner: government is always dysfunctional. But perhaps not.)

    How many of our 911 Truther friends are actually being paid by the US government? All experience from COINTELPRO to the crazy Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping fiasco to the Jan 6 operation suggests that, most assuredly, some of the 911 Truthers are indeed paid Federal agents.

    But all of the 911 Truthers are in fact serving the interest of the US Deep State. Some of them know they are doing this; the others are merely useful idiots.

    So, in a sense, all of the 911 Truthers are Feds in an objective sense, even if that is not their intent.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  919. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…FDR told his top aides on November 25, 1941 that Japan would soon attack and it was important that Japan be maneuvered into firing the first shot…’

    Whether seeking that was a bad thing would be another matter. If I can see that I’m headed for a fight with my asshole neighbor, is it wrong if I act so as to insure it is he who breaks the law first rather than me?

    In any case, I recall reading of an interesting episode in this connection. In the last few days before December 7th, while there’s no clear evidence we were aware the Japanese carriers were at sea and headed for Pearl Harbor, we were aware of the Japanese invasion convoy headed for Malaysia.

    We sent out a schooner (!) armed with a machine gun or two and crewed by a lieutenant (j.g.) and two seamen to take a look. Was the intention that the Japanese would blow it out of the water and furnish us with a casus belli?

    Of course, in the upshot, the Japanese furnished us with a much better casus belli.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @PhysicistDave
  920. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…If Steve does manage to move towards mainstream status, I myself am certainly willing to help mainstream pundits explore some of Steve’s more… interesting… views.

    This could be fun…’

    Fun or not, I still wouldn’t do it. One has to keep one’s eye on the big picture. If Steve did move into the mainstream, would you want him to be able to stay there, or would you want to discredit him? Which would help most to fight the good fight?

    I do my best to avoid being actively dishonest. However, sometimes I realize it’s better to shut up. Obviously, not very often, but…

    Let the trivial quarrels go, if more important issues are at stake. Past a point, disunity only serves the interests of the forces of darkness.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  921. @Me2

    Why England and France did not also declare war against the USSR is because England and France were already International Socialist like the Soviet Union. WWII was a war between Socialisms, International Socialism of America, England, France, the Soviet Union and National Socialism of Germany and Italy. Nationalism had to be destroyed. Roosevelt was a fellow traveller of Communism.

  922. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    It occurs to me that there’s a common thread here. Both your primitive Christians and your Truth Vigilantes appear in worlds in which the traditional order of things and the accepted explanations have been upset. Perhaps the arrival of the Roman Empire was just as unsettling as some of the trends of today. In both cases, we have people seeking radically new explanations.

    Yeah, as you know, the word “pagan” (Latin: paganus) essentially meant country bumpkin. I.e., the original Christians were essentially city slickers.

    You can see this in the letters of Paul where he makes clear that he travels from one city to another in his missionary activities. We need to keep in mind that this was when most people did not live in cities: he was preaching to a select few.

    And it is life in the cities that would have been most disrupted in Hellenistic and Roman times. Rome actually razed Corinth to the ground in 146 BC, for example. The old political and civic structure of the city-states was radically changed.

    So, there was reason for people to look for a new approach to life.

    And so with our 911 Truthers: when my grandparents were young, most Americans worked with the actual physical world — in farming, manufacturing, or, of course, fairly onerous “housework.”

    Nowadays, a large portion of the population is in what I call the “parasitic verbalist overclass”: people who use words to manipulate other people, rather than dealing directly with physical reality. And the denizens of that “parasitic verbalist overclass” are, above all, looking for “careers” in which they are not at the mercy of the market economy. They do not want to have to blindly respond to the market demands of their fellow citizens; rather, they want to mold the lives of their fellow citizens, influence the direction of society, feel that they are “making a difference” in whatever their chosen career happens to be.

    This is working badly. You know who the ecologist/social scientist Peter Turchin is? One of his main themes is that our society has an “overproduction of elites.” We are churning out, essentially through our university system, far, far more people who think they are entitled to the sort of position I have just described than there are such positions.

    And, like any ruling class, the members of the “parasitic verbalist overclass” know that their actual physical existence depends on the masses who engage with the actual physical world: the farmers, the truck drivers, and all the rest. To be a member of a ruling class is to suffer from a certain existential anxiety: it is always possible that the peasants with pitchforks will decide that they have had enough and that they can easily be rid of you.

    In short, these are very anxious, very bitter people. This is essentially what happened in France in the 1780s, in Russia in the early twentieth century, in Rome early in the last century BC, etc.: it creates a pre-revolutionary situation.

    As the old joke goes, history may not repeat itself, but it certainly does rhyme!

    Indeed, if most of the aspirants to the professional-managerial class, what I call the”parasitic verbalist overclass,” are angry and bitter, it is even worse for the actual materially productive members of society. Many of them, and many of their children, never even had any shot at all at moving into the ruling class. And they are despised and treated with contempt by the verbalist overclass — dismissed, for example, by Obama as people who cling to their guns and their religion — even though they know that they are the people who make the lives of the elite physically possible.

    This is a recipe for a revolution, as Turchin emphasizes.

    So… which group are most of our 911 Truthers in? Failed aspirants to join the overclass? Or members of the productive class who are bitter about their position?

    It would be interesting to know, but, unfortunately, all of our 911 Truthers have been very, very coy about their educational backgrounds, their professional achievements (or lack thereof), etc.

    I’ve been quite open about all that in my own case, providing links to my Ph.D. thesis, some of my patents, etc.

    But not so our 911 Truthers.

    I guess we know why.

    Colin Wright also wrote:

    …but you really should give up jousting with Truth Vigilante. I blocked him long ago. Once someone reaches a certain product of abrasiveness, lack of worthwhile insight, and no entertainment value, he goes on my list. Past a point, there really is nothing to be gained — and Vigilante’s posts were so long! They were blocking up the whole page.

    Ah, but as I have explained many, many times, the main reason I participate in Web forums like this is my interest in understanding human psychopathology.

    And, you gotta admit, when it comes to psychopathology, Truth Vigilante is a Grade AAA specimen, a veritable filet mignon of human psychopathology! He is simply priceless.

    You know the old saying that if you engage in mud wrestling with a pig, you will get dirty and the pig will enjoy it?

    Well, I am the pig!

    I am having enormous fun at Truth Vigilante’s expense.

    Though I am not sure he is enjoying it quite as much as I am.

    During the last thirty years, I have noticed that what tends to happen on Web forums like this is that people tend to congregate with others who simply reinforce theirs delusions and who stroke each other’s egos. I shall refrain from repeating the well-known but crude term for a bunch of guys getting in a circle and stimulating each other, but that is basically what it is.

    But I have also found that just one single person interrupting that circle and pointing out the joint delusion can disrupt the whole mass psychosis.

    I think it is worthwhile to do that, and I actually enjoy it.

    In short, I have made a life out of being the kid in the Hans Christian Andersen story who cries out, “But the emperor’s naked!” And, of course, the story ends with the whole town sheepishly admitting that the child is right.

    This does not usually make me the most popular fellow on the Web! But it is always entertaining and usually rewarding.

    So, no, I am afraid that if I simply blocked Truth Vigilante, I would hamper myself in my inquiry into the nature of human psychopathology and, most of all, my experiments in the ecology of Web forums like this.

    And I think it is always worthwhile to tell the truth and to expose lies.

    And, besides, I am really having more fun than oughta be legal!

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  923. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright asked me:

    Fun or not, I still wouldn’t do it. One has to keep one’s eye on the big picture. If Steve did move into the mainstream, would you want him to be able to stay there, or would you want to discredit him? Which would help most to fight the good fight?

    I’d want him to tell the truth.

    If he decides to make a mainstream career for himself simply by pushing his theory of “affordable family formation” or “Sailer’s law of mass shootings’ but chooses to shy away from his insights about the Deep State, “Invade the World/Invite the World,” and, yes, the enormous harm that Zionists have done to our country (I don’t think that Zionists rule the country, but they are indeed risking getting us all killed in a World War IV starting in the Mideast!), then what is really the point?

    Except for Sailer expanding his bank account and his ego?

    Frankly, I don’t think it will come to that: you saw what happened to our friend Razib Khan when it looked like he would be able to go mainstream with the NYT (see here)?

    Would it be a good thing if we lived in a world in which Razib was featured in major publications and could express his views freely?

    Sure — but this is not that world.

    Had the Gray Lady kept Razib on, he would have been forced to sell out. And they still probably would have dumped him in a pretty short time.

    It was better for Razib as a human being, and probably better even for his bank account (the legacy media are dying), that the NYT dumped him.

    And so too for Sailer: I doubt he will have any success at going mainstream, and if he does, I doubt there will be any need for me to torpedo him! The harridans in the elite media will have their shivs out before you and I even know what is happening.

    But Steve should not be rewarded for selling out, and the experience that both Buzz and I have had suggests that he certainly is selling out.

    Besides which, the truth is a good in and of itself.

    So, if Steve should find himself in the position Razib did, yes, we should point out the views that Steve was once proud to hold and to honestly expound.

    (By the way, I am not accusing Razib of selling out. But I do think that the end result in his case was inevitable: the ruling class is not quite ready to commit suicide. Not quite.)

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  924. @ANON

    My little buddy the NeverTrumper Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote to Colin Wright:

    I never realized what a total asshole you are Colon Wrong

    Okaaay — so immediately after you realized Colin was blocking you and not seeing any of your posts, you decided to reply to him anonymously in the hope that he would actually see your reply, right?

    Do you realize that you are the only one here who is falsely using “Wrong” as Colin’s last name and that therefore what you are doing is kinda transparent? Kinda?

    As the saying goes, little fellow, if you mud-wrestle with a pig, you get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

    I am that pig.

    And, oh, how I am enjoying it!

    I just love exposing pathological liars and psychopaths.

    Always have, always will.

    Way back in the early ’70s, I get our high-school physics teacher, crazy old Lester Kraft, removed from teaching physics — a guy almost as stupid as you are. For example, he once told our class, “Some matter turns into energy at the speed of light; some matter turns into energy at the square of the speed of light.” Utter idiocy, almost as dumb as what you have been saying about the Twin Towers.

    The students had been grumbling about this guy for years, but I actually did something about it.

    And I have never looked back: I have lost count of the number of careers of liars and con artists that I have wrecked since then.

    I am just one mean dude.

    You take care, little Fed.

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Anon
  925. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wrong writes:

    So the 9/11 Truthers are serving a purpose — they’re just badly mistaken about whose purpos

    Mr Wrong, I’d accept that criticism of yours if you’d done even a moderate amount of research into the 9/11 False Flag, utilising the output of the two greatest 9/11 researchers on the planet. ie: USMC Lt-Col (ret) Field McConnell and Christopher Bollyn (both of whom have real skin in the game after suffering severe repercussions for their unparalleled courage).

    But you have done jack shit worth of research. Yet you have the audacity to criticise others who have put in countless thousands of hours of earnest study into this matter.
    You have demonstrated time and again that you do not have the technical/academic/career expertise to determine what constitutes a credible/incredible hypothesis, yet you’re quick to shoot off a wise arse remark.

    You’re a fool with limited horizons, and even more limited intellectual capacity.
    I’m guessing that you’re a vaxxed-to-the-max and fully boostered servile automaton that hibernated in his basement during the Covid Psyop, because Big Brother Tony Fauci told you to do so.

    You are one very gutless and spineless piece of work indeed.

  926. @Anon

    Yes Mev, that is an appropriate handle for Mr Niceman/NiceLamb.

    So, for those UR readers that are new to this webzine, let me give you some background about him/her/it.
    He claims to be from Iceland, yet somehow he takes it personally when ZOG and the Apartheid Israeli state are criticised, or when the safety and efficacy of the experimental mRNA clot shots are questioned (you know the ones I’m talking about – the ones manufactured by ZOG owned Big Pharma).

    I mean, his reaction is akin to what you’d expect if I’D JUST CALLED HIS MOTHER A WHORE.

    Now Mev, I only scrolled very quickly through the previous 900 or so comments in this thread, so it’s possible I missed something posted by Mr NiceLamb. But I did not see a SINGLE one of his comments among those I scanned.
    Meanwhile, seeing as Chief Sayan assigned by the ADL to post disinformation in this thread (Fizzy-cyst Dovid), was getting battered by me and a few others, as he posted one easily disprovable falsehood about the 9/11 False Flag after another, it appears that there was an appeal for help through the Talmudic Helpline.
    Because Fizzy-cyst Dovid was digging that chasm of a hole he’s in ever deeper with every nonsensical assertion he posted.

    And, surprise, surprise, Mr NiceLamb (located in the bowels of the Negev Desert where he works with Unit 8200 of the IDF), answers the call and comes to Fizzy Dov’s assistance.

    SUMMARY: This is not a fair fight.
    It is Me vs a gaggle of Talmudic hyenas – and you wretched little people are copping one hell of a hiding.

    So, I propose that we ‘level the playing field’. I suggest you ZOG apologists put out the message in those synagogues you attend and Judeo-Masonic lodges you’re life members of, and get another HUNDRED of your best over here pronto. Perhaps then, it won’t be such a lopsided contest.

    After all, no one likes to watch an event where one side is head and shoulders better than the intellectually and morally bankrupt dregs on the other side.
    A close contest is always more enthralling for the viewers.

  927. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wrong writes:

    Here we run into another human failing: the need to see the world in black and white.

    Obviously there are shades of grey in relation to some matters. For example, the 767’s that impacted with the WTC towers on 9/11 (remotely flown drones that had no passengers or crew), were NOT commercial Boeing aircraft.
    I speculated (in my numerous comments in UR threads over recent years) that they could have been modified Northrop Grumman E-10 MC2A Military/CIA spec 767’s, or perhaps they were once commercial 767’s that had meanwhile been gutted of all interior fittings and thereafter heavily modified for the intended purpose.
    The fact is I DON’T KNOW WITH CERTAINTY on that point and I’m not afraid to say that (and I’ve made that known that I speculated there – albeit a highly educated guess it was).

    Similarly, seeing as the planes with real passengers and crew (AA11, UA175, AA77) that were alleged to have impacted with the WTC towers and the Pentagon did NOT actually crash into said structures (they were electronically commandeered and landed elsewhere), I have had many individuals ask me what happened to these passengers/crew.
    MY ANSWER: I don’t know.
    We haven’t seen them since so my guess is that ZOG murdered them – that was my educated guess on that matter.

    SUMMARY: Unfortunately I am not privy to ZOG’s blueprints of how the 9/11 False Flag transpired precisely. So I, and many others, have had to join the dots and make educated guesses on a variety of matters.
    BUT, to the extent that some things in this world are Black and White, we should not be GUTLESS and TECHNICALLY IGNORANT COWARDS like your bad self Mr Wrong, and remain seated on the fence.

    For example. we know FOR CERTAIN that asymmetrical damage or failure of a particular load bearing structural steel member in a tall building does not cause a symmetrical collapse of the building into its own footprint.
    (There is NO PRECEDENT of this happening in history).

    We also know FOR CERTAIN, in accordance with Newton’s Third Law, that a section of the upper building coming crashing down on the lower part of the building, will experience RESISTANCE from the lower floors which were MUCH MORE ROBUSTLY CONSTRUCTED THAN THE UPPPER FLOORS, and thus would at the very least slow* down the collapse.

    (*All skyscrapers are built with a ‘redundancy factor of at least four or five times. In other words, they’re not built just to withstand the likely loads they’ll probably encounter from the weight of the floors above, from gale force winds, earth tremors etc.
    They are designed to withstand four or five time MORE live loads than they’d typically encounter, ensuring a buffer of safety).

    Contrary to the deceit being peddled by those affiliated with the ZOG perpetrators of the 9/11 False Flag, that the WTC towers were built shoddily, and that once the upper section fell down on the lower floors, it quickly developed into a progressive pancake collapse, the actual reality is that:

    The WTC towers were arguably among the MOST ROBUSTLY CONTRUCTED BUILDINGS IN HISTORY – either before or since.

    The following words are those of someone involved in he construction of the WTC towers (bear in mind also that, in the case of the North Tower, the plane impact was around the 94th floor or just below – and seeing as each tower is 110 storeys tall, that entailed that the top 16 floors came crashing down on the lower floors – all of which were NOT structurally compromised from any plane impact OR affected by fire):

    The bottom 94 floors of the North tower of the WTC were designed to carry TWENTY (20) TIMES the expected ‘live load’ (ie: physical steel, concrete, office furniture, human beings) due from the upper 16 floors.
    ….. John Skilling (Senior Engineer in the firm that built the Twin Towers).

    Yet Fizzy-Dovid insists that the bottom 94 floors offered ‘No Resistance’, that they just INSTANTLY buckled – hence the Free Fall acceleration collapse.

  928. @Colin Wright

    Colon Wrong, for once says something right, when he writes:

    If Israel is bad, it follows that Islam must be good.
    Therefore, Islam could not have spawned a group of murderous terrorists who deliberately killed thousands of innocent Americans.

    And of course, the overwhelming weight of unbiased evidence backs up this demonstrably verifiable assertion made by CW above. So congratulations for finally speaking some truth.
    Sadly however, you undo your good work above by posting this half true/half wrong statement below:

    Sadly, the truth is that Israel certainly had a hand in 9/11 — but the actual perpetrators really were Muslim terrorists.

    And Colon, how pray tell, do you know that the actual perpetrators were Muslim?
    Oh, I forgot, the ZOG owned corrupt MSM told you so, didn’t they?
    Well that’s great, we can all rest easy now. Because the MSM would never lie to us, would they?
    I mean, the experimental mRNA gene therapies that masqueraded as ‘vaccines’ turned out OK, didn’t they? I knew they would – because the MSM assured me they would.

    OK, enough of the sarcasm. I strongly recommend that any UR reader who still thinks a SINGLE ONE of those alleged Islamic terrorists boarded ANY of those four planes which supposedly crashed that day, take a look at the few minutes from 1:16:00-1:19:40 in the video below:

    SUMMARY: Colon Wrong was ranting about how I see everything as Black and White, and that there is no justification EVER for calling out ANY OCCURRENCE in human history in black and white terms. Because, no matter what, there is ALWAYS some shade of grey, some nuance to factor in.
    I mean, the sun doesn’t always rise in the east, does it? Sometimes it rises from the south, or perhaps NNW?
    Yet, Colon has no qualms about EMPHATICALLY STATING in his comment # 936 that Muslims actually perpetrated 9/11.

    You see readers, Colon Wrong is not only TOO LAZY to do the actual research on this ZOG perpetrated heinous crime, but he is also a HYPOCRITE without equal.

    FACT: There is NO PROOF that a single individual (among those 19 Muslims that were alleged to have hijacked those four aircraft), boarded ANY of the planes alleged to have crashed that day.
    Moreover, of those 19 alleged hijackers, SEVEN (7) of them were confirmed to STILL BE ALIVE AFTER 9/11:

    https://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hijackers.html

    Yes readers, those seven Muslims reported having lost their passports BEFORE 9/11. And spooks working for the Anglo Zionist empire just scooped up said passports and dropped them in the respective crime scenes, thereafter claiming that they were on board the planes.
    This is how SLOPPY ZOG was in the planning of this event. BUT, they didn’t care. They controlled the western media, they had every western politician of note in their pocket, as well as controlling all of the major book publishing houses.
    ZOG was similarly sloppy in the case of the JFK coup d’etat (JFK was clearly shot from some someone situated from in front and to the right of him – because his head recoiled BACK and to the LEFT, in accordance with the Law of Conservation of Momentum).
    Nevertheless, they told the gullible masses that the kill shot was fired from BEHIND JFK, from the TSBD. And the lumpen proletariat believed it – because they always believe what Big Brother tells them (pretty much like Colon Wrong does – hence the reason he’s vaxxed-to-the-max and boostered out the wazoo with those Covid clot shots).
    But that’s not enough for Colon Wrong. In his own words:

    ‘Juz coz dey is still a-lyve, duzent meen dey diden doo dat hi-jak’n’.

    Colon Wong, like the Australian Immigration Minister Arthur Caldwell said in the aftermath of WWII when asked why Australia was only taking in white European migrants and not Asians, he replied with:

    ‘Two Wongs do not make a White’.

    You are one DUMB F*CK Colin Wong.

    • Replies: @Anon
  929. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Oh yeah. Some of the lunatic speculation about holograms, drones and mass hypnosis/hysteria help to obscure the more serious questions and discredit them by association.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  930. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Sounds like the schooner would have been somewhere between a forlorn hope and a suicide mission. A few years earlier the US gunboat Panay was sunk on the Yangtze by Japanese planes, though (like the Liberty) the Japanese said it was a mistake. War did not break out on that occasion.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  931. @Colin Wright

    …but you really should give up jousting with Truth Vigilante. I blocked him long ago — and Vigilante’s posts were so long!

    Colon Wrong tries to justify why he can’t engage in a rational debate with me, by offering this implausible excuse.
    It’s the same story with You Tube, pre-Elon Musk Twitter and various other ZOG controlled media, that banned truth tellers like Dr Peter McCullough, Pierre Kory, Robert Malone and countless others who were telling the truth about the toxic clot shots during the Covid Psyop. Simply put:

    Those that are INTELLECTUALLY BANKRUPT generally avoid* debating the truth tellers.

    (*Fizzy-cyst Dovid is an exception to that rule. Yes, he’s still very much intellectually bankrupt on the matter of analysing ZOG’s depraved crimes, but he is being lavishly compensated by his ADL benefactors despite having to suffer the slings and arrows of karmic fortune.
    So he’ll keep peddling his misdirection and deceit, seeing as he has a vested interest in remaining here – no matter how many shellackings he’s on the receiving end of).

    I NEVER avoid a rigorous exchange with anyone in relation to these ZOG perpetrated crimes.
    Why would I?
    I have a DELUGE of verifiable facts to support my contentions.
    Those like you Colon Wrong have NOTHING. Hence he resorts to the time honoured last resort of venues like ‘The Enclave of Imbecility’ (aka the Steve Sailer threads).
    ie: they ban/muzzle/moderate the comments of dissenters for weeks on end etc.

    When I started posting fact after verifiable fact in one particular Steve Sailer Holohoax related thread, furnishing proof after proof that there is NO EVIDENCE verifying the existence of these mythical gas chambers that killed Jews (or anyone else in those work camps) during the Second World War, that only a few hundred thousand Jews (at most) perished under German custody* during this conflict, Sailer resorted to the ZOG playbook to muzzle me.
    After all, Sailer wanted to prove his bona fides to his ZOG benefactors, and no better way to do it than to choke off anyone with the capacity to expose this monstrous hoax.

    (*The overwhelming majority of those Jews that died during WWII, did so during the 1942/43 typhus epidemics, and in the concluding months of the war from malnutrition, as the German food transport/logistics system had been bombed/strafed to a standstill. German civilians in the cities were themselves starving in the final months of the war).

    And, seeing as Sailer is beholden to Malevolent International Jewry (and/or seeking to ingratiate himself with them and thereby improve his career prospects), he moderated and purged my commentary into oblivion.

    SUMMARY: Steve Sailer (like you Colon Wrong), is an intellectual light-weight.
    That’s why you and he will never amount to anything – no matter how much you grovel to your Talmudic overlords.

  932. @Wielgus

    Vile-gus writes:

    Some of the lunatic speculation about holograms, drones …. help to obscure the more serious questions and discredit them by association.

    OMG, I see yet another dimwit from the Enclave of Imbecility has answered the calls for help on the Talmudic Helpline, and has dropped in to assist his fellow members of the (((tribe))).

    Mr Vile-gus (or would you rather I dispense with the formality and just call you ‘Vile’?), I’ve taken note of your ignorant commentary in other threads, where you’ve made a fool of yourself.
    Now, you didn’t get it completely wrong in your block quoted assertion above, I certainly agree that the notion of holograms employed on 9/11 is quite far fetched.
    Certainly the more serious 9/11 researchers don’t subscribe to that fanciful notion.
    But, in relation to your asinine belief that it is lunacy to believe that remotely guided 767 drones (ie: no passengers and crew aboard) were used in the attacks on the WTC towers and the Pentagon, once again you’ve demonstrated (like the ignorant Colon Wrong), that you’re too lazy to put in the hard yards to look into the 9/11 False Flag.
    Evidently you’re more than happy to take Rachael Maddow’s and Philip Zelikow’s word for what really happened that day.

    I suggest you scroll up to the last portion of comment # 508 that I posted earlier in this thread.
    It shows the aircraft that was alleged to be UA175, a fraction before it impacted with the South tower.
    Read what I wrote in the last few paragraphs of that comment and observe the circled underbody modifications that this plane was fitted with. (NO commercial 767 has these appendages).

    VERDICT: Mr Vile-gus, you’re yet another one of these poorly researched individuals that is quick to shoot off his mouth about matters you’re totally ignorant on.

    I suggest you go back to the Steve Sailer threads, where you can liaise with like minded morons that get all their info about historical/geopolitical events from the corrupt western MSM and watching reruns of Schindler’s List.

  933. Anon[929] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    You see readers, Colon Wrong is not only TOO LAZY to do the actual research on this ZOG perpetrated heinous crime, but he is also a HYPOCRITE without equal.

    Maybe he’s more like a Colon with a Wong up it. Not too lazy but too lustful to do research and to think clearly. Colon Wong.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wong
    Wong
    1. A particularly lascivious bastard
    2. One who engages in non-discreet ogling of the opposite sex
    3. A person who plants cameras underneath office desks
    4. The act of planting cameras underneath office desks
    1. Man, that guy is such a Wong!
    2. KDub wonged the new girl’s cube.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  934. @Anon

    M, you’ve encapsulated the essence of this coward of a man very nicely indeed.

  935. @Wielgus

    ‘Sounds like the schooner would have been somewhere between a forlorn hope and a suicide mission. A few years earlier the US gunboat Panay was sunk on the Yangtze by Japanese planes, though (like the Liberty) the Japanese said it was a mistake. War did not break out on that occasion.’

    It could have. Roosevelt saw some of the available footage of the attack and appealed to the news agencies to suppress it — which they did. He was concerned that if Americans saw the more graphic bits, the demand for war would be irresistible, and — at least then — he didn’t want war.

    That both complicates the revisionist portrait of Roosevelt and reminds us of just how unpopular Japan was making itself with us long before Pearl Harbor.

    As to the schooner, it’s clear to me that it was bait: the idea must have been to get the Japanese to kill Americans who obviously weren’t posing any threat. By that point, we were interested in going to war.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  936. Anon[403] • Disclaimer says:

    To All Unz Readers:

    I’m working on a tribute to Aaron Bushnell OBM.

    Here is the current version:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/14kq4rGKW8w_0r8CFyFBS2mSeHp5e9hdy/view?usp=drive_link

    If any of you have suggestions where it could be published please suggest.

    Also all are welcome to download and share it as you see fit.

    May the memory of the righteous/courageous/heroic be a blessing.

    Shalom Salaam Ping Peace Pax Pacem Mir Irini Frieden Amen.

  937. geokat62 says:

    Well, wadaya know… didn’t niceland reassure us that based on the data for Iceland, there was no other conclusion to reach than that the injections were “safe and effective.”

  938. Anon[736] • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    You are correct. And Ronnie boy swallowed Scheißland’s crap Hook Line

    and Stinker.

  939. @geokat62

    Those are some stunning statistics that you’ve posted there Geokat.

    We all recall how Niceman/Nicelamb during the depths of the Covid Psyop, was boasting about how heavily vaxxed Iceland was doing so well, and how it was the unvaxxed that were disproportionately falling ill from Covid.

    Of course, your stat of Excess Mortality being up FIFTY FIVE (55)% in Iceland puts paid to that blatant lie.
    If Niceman really was from Iceland and had even a shred of moral fibre, he’d be on this thread now admitting that Iceland got it badly wrong.
    But he’s not from Iceland, he’s safely ensconced in the Negev Desert in Occupied Palestine, in his little IDF furnished cubicle, from where he spreads his malicious falsehoods.

    Niceman buries his head in the sand on the calamitous fallout of the toxic clot shot rollout in Iceland, and instead comes to this thread in the capacity of wingman to assist Talmudic trolls like Fizzy-cyst Dovid, Vile-gus and Colon Wrong, in their feeble attempts to deflect attention away from Malevolent International Jewry’s orchestration of the 9/11 False Flag.

    What’s going on here Dovid Miller? Very few applicants have showed up from the Talmudic Hotline to assist you here against me.
    I told you guys, a MINIMUM OF ONE HUNDRED foaming-at-the-mouth Talmudic Jews are needed immediately to level the playing field, because you and your inbred brethren are getting badly mauled here.

    SUMMARY: Look, I get it that all of you are in a subdued state, that you’re all in mourning.
    After all, the patron saint of Depravity and Child Ritual sexual abuse/sacrifice (Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild), passed away the other day.

    My condolences, it must be tough for you guys.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  940. @geokat62

    Ron Unz, those are some stunning statistics posted by Geokat.

    Surely now, you have to admit that the experimental mRNA gene therapy that masqueraded as a vaccine during the Covid Psyop, is the most cataclysmic PHARMACEUTICAL PRODUCT IN HUMAN HISTORY (by at least two orders of magnitude).

    Ron, how much longer are you going to keep your head buried in the sand on this Mass Cull of Humanity? Surely now is the time to post a comprehensive article exposing this ongoing carnage – a carnage that shows no signs of tapering off, and may well be accelerating.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  941. niceland says:

    It’s difficult to think of more worthless endeavor than to respond to ad-homien attacks on anonymous forums. Check my comment history to see how much time I have spent doing this

    In the odd case anyone is believing Truth Vigilantly or Geocat62 about my position on vaxx and other things – here is a link for you;

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/?showcomments#comment-4793724

    Here I am among the first, if not the first to report on the U.R. the vaxx doesn’t prevent infection or transmission as promised.

    Off topic I guess, but here in Iceland we are discovering that vaccines are not that good at creating the heard immunity everyone was waiting for.

    After enjoying mask-free, no social distancing and covid free society for the past few weeks we are seeing exponential surge in infections. According to official reports the highest rate of infections ever seen. This is happening with 85% of the population vaccinated. Numbers as high as 90% having gotten one doze have been reported. I believe we are close to the world record in this regard.

    Yesterday 56 tested positive, thereof 46 fully vaccinated. And even worse one fully vaccinated individual infected six people, just to give one example.

    In short: Fully vaccinated people test positive and infect others. And few fully vaccinated have gotten sick, even hospitalized. Medical chief at our biggest hospital expects a wave coming his way in about 14 days.

    Needless to say the mood over here is dropping like stone.

    This was written July 21. 2021. At the time we had no such reports in the MSM, at most vague reporting about limited “breakthrough” infections in the vaxxed population. Our host Mr. Unz noticed this comment of mine and highlighted it in the discussion because he saw the relevance.

    Our attempts to sort facts from fiction (and there was plenty of that) regarding vaxx deaths in following discussions only proves we are both members of ‘Zog’ in some circles I guess. Strange how this works.

    Perhaps it’s time to revisit this discussion to see how things have progressed, unfortunately i don’t have time to do so in the short term. It requires digging through plenty of data – just like last time.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Truth Vigilante
  942. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘…FDR told his top aides on November 25, 1941 that Japan would soon attack and it was important that Japan be maneuvered into firing the first shot…’

    [Colin] Whether seeking that was a bad thing would be another matter. If I can see that I’m headed for a fight with my asshole neighbor, is it wrong if I act so as to insure it is he who breaks the law first rather than me?

    Well, the Western Allies, England and France, declared war on Hitler in defense of Poland.

    The end result of the War in Europe was to transfer Poland from Hitler to Stalin.

    The American dispute with Japan was over Japan’s brutal actions in China.

    The end result of the War in the Pacific was to replace the brutal Japanese imperialists with the even more murderous Maoist Communists.

    In its actual results, the outcome of World War II was simply to very dramatically advance world Communism.

    My uncle and my grandfather were both in the Navy during the War, and I do not wish to downplay the heroism of those who fought for the Allies.

    But we need to be clear-eyed about the actual results.

    Was this the goal of the major leaders of the Western Allies?

    Well, Churchill was simply a war-loving clown, like a little boy who loved playing Risk: read what Lady Asquith had to say about Winston’s reaction to the outbreak of the First World War.

    And FDR admitted that “Dr. New Deal” had to be replaced by “Dr. Win the War” — because Dr. New Deal had, after all, failed.

    Did either Churchill or FDR intend that the primary effect of the war would be to advance the fortunes of Marxism-Leninism?

    Did Mrs. O’Leary’s proverbial cow care that it allegedly started the great Chicago fire?

    Churchill and FDR had about the same concern for the long-term future as the cow did!

    These were truly, deeply evil mass murderers, almost as evil as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

    Getting back to your own point, there was no essential American interest that necessitated war against Japan. Japan attacked because America had already engaged in acts of war — notably sending US military aviators (the “Flying Tigers”) to fight Japan — and because America was trying to strangle Japan economically through the embargo on scrap iron and aviation fuel. The final straw was the “Hull ultimatum,” delivered to Japan on November 26, 1941, the day after FDR told his top advisors that the goal was to maneuver Japan into firing the first shot.

    FDR and his advisors knew that war would be the result of the Hull ultimatum, which is why he could so confidently make his prediction.

    I am no admirer of Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, any more than I am an admirer of the British dictatorship over so much of the world or the unconstitutional regime of FDR in the US. They were all deeply evil.

    But we need to stand back from the lies we were all fed as propaganda in school.

    And, I’ll conclude by pointing out that the facts I have laid out here — the results of the War, FDR’s statements to his top advisors on November 25, the Hull ultimatum, and all the rest — are not in dispute. All of this has been a matter of public record since the 1940s.

    We are just not supposed to mention it. Sort of like telling kids the truth about Santa.

    In Orwell’s words, ” Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.”

    We live in Orwell’s 1984. It is a fairy tale to pretend otherwise.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  943. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to Wielgus:

    As to the schooner, it’s clear to me that it was bait: the idea must have been to get the Japanese to kill Americans who obviously weren’t posing any threat. By that point, we were interested in going to war.

    Let’s be a bit more precise here. “We,” meaning the American people, were not interested in going to war.

    The unconstitutional FDR regime was interested in going to war.

    The difference matters.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  944. @Truth Vigilante

    My little pal the NeverTrumper Truth ‘the Fed’ Vigilante asked me:

    What’s going on here Dovid Miller? Very few applicants have showed up from the Talmudic Hotline to assist you here against me.
    I told you guys, a MINIMUM OF ONE HUNDRED foaming-at-the-mouth Talmudic Jews are needed immediately to level the playing field, because you and your inbred brethren are getting badly mauled here.

    As Einstein said, in response to the hundred authors against Einstein book, if they had been right, one would have been enough.

    And one is indeed enough to deal with you, little Fed.

    You wrote above:

    seeing as [Dave]’s been a dud in his field of expertise, and been shunned by fellow academics because he has a history of peddling junk science/been a serial offender in falsifying data…

    The claim that I have been “a serial offender in falsifying data” is a vicious and preposterous lie for which you have no evidence and for which you could not have any evidence.

    You do not even claim to have evidence for that vicious libel.

    You just made it up as a vicious lie.

    And everyone here knows it!

    You haven’t even tried to justify it.

    And that, by itself, proves that you are a deeply malicious pathological liar.

    More than that, it proves you are mentally retarded, because it seems not to have occurred to you that of course everyone would know that you just made it up, that you are just lying.

    There are indeed several others here who have dealt with you — Colin et al. — but they are not really needed.

    To any sane person who is not, like you, mentally retarded, it is obvious what you are.

    A pathological lying mental imbecile.

    And it does not take even one person to prove that.

    Your own words are more than sufficient.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  945. Despite months of Israel’s occupation and military operations in northern Gaza, Israeli forces have failed to suppress Palestinian fighters who are engaged in intense battles in the Zeitoun neighbourhood of Gaza City, war monitors say.

    US-based think tanks, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) and the Critical Threats Project (CTP), said that despite two “clearing operations” by Israeli forces in Zeitoun, at least seven Palestinian armed groups are fighting against Israeli forces in the area.

    Palestinian fighters in Zeitoun carried out at least 92 attacks on Israeli forces between February 19 and 28, the ISW/CTP said in their latest battlefield assessment.

    “This high attack rate involving at least seven Palestinian militias using sophisticated military capabilities indicates that Palestinian fighters have retained military capacity in southern Gaza City despite two Israeli clearing operations there,” the think tanks said.

    “The militias likely infiltrated into previously cleared areas of southern Gaza City from the uncleared central Gaza Strip,” they said.

    .

    It really does sound like those opening ‘future war’ scenes from The Terminator.

    …right down to the scenes of attempted mechanized extermination by the unspeakable oppressor.

    …and like the film, the decisive battle will be fought someplace else entirely, removed in space rather than time, but still…

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  946. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Let’s be a bit more precise here. “We,” meaning the American people, were not interested in going to war…’

    You’d need to demonstrate that to me.

    How much opposition was there to the draft? In the 1940 election, the Republicans opted for a united front with Roosevelt on the need to support Britain.

    ‘The Ballad of the Ruben James’, the popularity of Sergeant York…if a lot of Americans supported ‘America First,’ a lot didn’t.

    Of course there were elements of manipulation and deceit in our drift to war, and of course there was dissidence, but none of this is quite the same as proving that the bulk of the American people had not come to accept the need for war over the case of 1940-41. The isolationists were on the fringe; they weren’t the consensus.

    You could compare it to our current open borders versus our support for Israel. Do the majority of Americans favor open borders? No, they do not; that one’s not flying. Do they still favor support for Israel? Yes, I’m afraid a majority still do — wrongly, but they do.

    Wasn’t our acquiescence in — if not actual support for — the idea of going to war by 1941 more like our continuing support for Israel than our clear rejection of open borders? Wasn’t Roosevelt actually succeeding in leading the bulk of Americans to accept the need for war?

    In no case, am I necessarily in favor of anything here; I am merely insisting on the need to recognize the reality of the situation as opposed to what one might prefer.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  947. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    What do we do if Jack D starts learning at a geometric rate?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  948. geokat62 says:
    @niceland

    Our host Mr. Unz noticed this comment of mine and highlighted it in the discussion because he saw the relevance.

    While Ron noticed this comment in which you cast doubt on the effectiveness of the injections, unfortunately I didn’t… my apologies.

    Perhaps it’s time to revisit this discussion to see how things have progressed, unfortunately i don’t have time to do so in the short term. It requires digging through plenty of data – just like last time.

    If you can dig up comments in which you also cast doubt on the safety of these injections, I will happily apologize once again.

  949. @niceland

    Mr Nicelamb has the audacity to write:

    In the odd case anyone is believing Truth Vigilantly or Geocat62 about my position on vaxx …..
    I am among the first, if not the first to report on the U.R. the vaxx doesn’t prevent infection or transmission as promised.

    Of course, those of us that witnessed first hand what he wrote at the height of the Covid Psyop, saw that Nicelamb was ONE OF THE MORE PROMINENT CHEERLEADERS for the toxic clot shots.
    Perhaps only John’s Johnson, the premier apologist for ZOG malfeasance in the UR, promoted the deadly mRNA jabs more than you did Mr Nicelamb.

    Take the following comment from Nicelamb (that Ron Unz gave a gold border to – something he no doubt deeply regrets now in light of the devastation caused by these Big Pharma poisons):

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/a-continuation-of-the-covid-vaxxing-debate/?showcomments#comment-4879103

    Some choice bits from that comment below:

    Here the question is – do vaccines offer protection from serious outcomes from Covid disease? I stated above they do – here is why I have no doubt about that.

    Whith 32 Unvaxxed in hospital over the period – If the Vaxx is totally useless I would expect to see nine times as many Vaxxed hospitalized. So 288, but they are only 64?
    Therefore the protection [if you’re vaxxed] against serious outcome is likely higher than 78%

    Then there is this comment you made in responding to me, where you try to lecture me [an Aussie] about how good a job the Australian government did on Covid (when the reality is that they were a complete DISASTER):

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/pure-unalloyed-evil/?showcomments#comment-4590774

    Some interesting bits from your comment above:

    After the first wave of covid-19 we enjoyed normal summer last year here in Iceland with hardly any restrictions ….. That was a bad mistake and early winter we got second much larger wave of covid cases. Last winter was spent trying to stomp out the virus again. Masks, social distancing, contact tracing, ban of gatherings over 10, closed bars, gyms, etc.

    Australia didn’t make that mistake and you can enjoy almost virus free society with no need for restrictions. Not very complicated. You can thank your government.

    Of course, seeing as (unlike you) I actually live in Australia and am thus ‘at the coalface’, I can tell you that, other than for some short lived closures of schools/non-essential businesses etc in the initial weeks when Covid hysteria was going on, ALL of Australia opened up. Next to no one was wearing a mask outdoors, sports stadiums opened up and we sat cheek to jowel in those packed stadiums and went on with our lives.
    The one exception was the tyrannical state of Victoria, which was locked down for far longer. Socialist distancing and hibernation of the citizenry dragged on endlessly there, and face masks were compulsory everywhere in that state – coupled to heavy handed police state manhandling of the citizens of that state which you all saw broadcast around the world.

    END RESULT: Victoria (not even out most populous state), had 80% of the recorded Covid deaths of the WHOLE country before the deadly clot shots were introduced.

    FACT: Only ONE (1) person died from Covid in the whole country in the six months preceding the the rollout of the vaxx. But IMMEDIATELY after a critical threshold of Aussies got the vaxx, my countrymen started dropping like flies – in their thousands.

    Let’s look at this next comment of yours, which is saturated with falsehoods:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-covid-19-its-impact-and-origins-after-one-year/?showcomments#comment-4555837

    Taken from that comment:

    It’s very difficult to explain excess deaths in 2020 absent covid-19.
    So, while the disease is real, the virus is real, PCR tests work and this is no hoax…
    The Swedish way was a step in this direction but very flawed and failed.

    FACT: The PCR tests, if conducted at cycle thresholds of around 35-40 (which they all were practically everywhere in the western world), yielded 97% false positives.
    Simply put, the PCR testing was structured in such a way so as to deliver a TSUNAMI of Covid positive results to BOOST THE TALLIES OF RECORDED ‘INFECTIONS’ and thus scare the gullible masses.
    ADDITIONAL FACT: Sweden’s approach to Covid not only wasn’t flawed and a failure, but they had amongst the BEST OUTCOMES in all of Europe.

    Nicelamb also posted this:

    https://www.unz.com/jthompson/vaccination-side-effects/?showcomments#comment-4452452

    From the comment above he said:

    Did anyone notice the numbers I posted indicate 1 in 1000 have serious side effects from Pfizer vaccine?

    According to Dr Peter McCullough, there is a 1 in 1000 chance of dying from the vaxx PER JAB administered.
    In other words, if you got the mandatory (if you wanted to keep your job) initial two jabs of Pfizer, then there is a 1 in 500 chance of death, If you got the initial two jabs followed by two boosters (ie: four jabs in aggregate), there is a 1 in 250 chance that you died.
    NOTE: These stats are just for those that DIED.
    For every one that died, perhaps 10 or 20 has a serious adverse outcome.

    SUMMARY: Nicelamb is off by around an order of magnitude in those phony stats he posted.

    Here is a summary of some stupid things Nicelamb said (I have attached the date next to each comment so that you can verify it yourselves from the archives):

    Feb 5, 2021: ‘It really looks like the “right thing to do” is to have the younger and healthier section of the population vaccinated to get heard immunity’.

    Apr 16, 2020: ‘I think contact tracing could be very useful tool after lock-downs are lifted and it seems no ‘apps’ are necessary to do the job’.

    Apr 10, 2020: ‘Simple example to look at is New Zealand. They decided not to flatten the curve but to eliminate the virus. They might be the closest nation on the planet to find all infected’.

    VERDICT: We all know that the virus was never going to be eliminated. New Zealand (like Australia) did f*ck all testing for Covid during 2020, so needless to say there were very few cases of Covid recorded.

    THEN, when the beholden to ZOG authorities wanted to induce panic (and thus scare people into taking the toxic clot shots as the vaxx was being rolled out), they started testing like crazy.
    And, with the cycle threshold on the PCR tests set at 35-40, those 97% false postives kicked in and brought a deluge of alleged Covid infections with which to alarm the citizenry.

    SUMMARY: There is much, much more B.S that you posted Nicelamb that PROVES you were a cheerleader for Big Pharma and the corrupt health bureaucracies throughout the western world.

    It’s not just your commentary. I noticed that whenever Ron Unz posted some manipulated/fraudulant data sets (from the CDC or other corrupt agency) to justify why he ended up taking the clot shots, you were almost invatiably there with an ‘Agree’ below his comment.

    You are a disgrace Nicelamb and a hypocrite. Knowing all that we now know, and knowing that these Covid vaxxes have killed millions throughout the world, why don’t you show some courage and admit that the vaxx rollout was a disaster, that we should have let this virus (no more lethal than that found in a typical flu season that we encounter every so often), just rip like they did in Sweden without disruption to society/the economy and WITHOUT the need for ZOG owned Big Pharma’s input?

    If you did, you’d earn back some respect.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  950. @PhysicistDave

    ‘Churchill and FDR had about the same concern for the long-term future as the cow did!

    These were truly, deeply evil mass murderers, almost as evil as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.’

    I don’t agree. Merely showing that someone is morally flawed is not the same as showing he has plumbed the depths of absolute evil. I may become unreasonably enraged in the course of a fender bender and shoot and kill the abrasive but essentially innocent old codger I see as having caused the accident.

    That’s unacceptable, and I should have to go off to the big house for some period of quite a few years.

    It is not, however, the same as if I stalk, rape, and kill an eleven year-old school girl.

    So no, Churchill, Roosevelt, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were not almost as evil as each other.

    Stalin was a moral monster; the public equivalent of the sex fiend who murders the eleven year-old. This was a lunatic.

    Hitler and Mao were perfectly willing to see millions die to bring about what they admittedly saw as laudable ends; clearly in the case of Hitler, I’ll give Mao the benefit of the doubt. The primary distinction here that I would make is that Mao had more time to realize the error of his ways — and didn’t. Morally, Hitler can be seen as fine when it came to his fellow Germans; only selectively benevolent when it came to others, and often outright homicidal. This was not a good member of the community.

    On reflection, I suppose I’ll rank Hitler as morally better than Mao. After all, Hitler visited the more murderous end of his policies on those he saw as aliens; Mao cheerfully put millions of his own people to death.

    Churchill was — as so many critics said — unbalanced. Well-intentioned enough — I’m sure he’d have made a fine, interesting neighbor (perhaps about a mile distant) — but given to impractical projects that culminated in disaster and sentimentally-driven policies that had the same ill effect. If he was willing to wage war without restraint and seek victory at all costs — well, given that war has come, don’t you want to win? One can debate the wisdom of that choice, but it’s unreasonably to condemn it without qualification.

    Roosevelt seems to have been a singularly manipulative and dishonest politician who, however, was trying to do what he saw as right for the United States and right for America. He was perhaps the only figure who could have led us through the Great Depression without it all ending in a catastrophic revolution. The alternative to Roosevelt wasn’t somebody better; it was a Huey Long or a Douglas MacArthur.

    None of these people were saints. It doesn’t follow that they were all the same.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  951. @Wielgus

    ‘What do we do if Jack D starts learning at a geometric rate?’

    Lol. More seriously, I keep waiting for JackD to have a moral epiphany.

    I don’t think it’s going to happen. So much the worse for him. After all, most of your more moral Jews — even if they can’t bring themselves to condemn Israel — at least have the decency to avoid expressly supporting it in its crimes.

    Obviously, I may have a biased perspective, but it seems to me that the more morally weak a Jew is, the more likely he is to support Israel, the more he needs that big, strong, alter ego. The best keep silent. It is the Alan Dershowitzes, the Jonathan Pollards, the Jeffrey Goldbergs, our own JackD et al who are the vociferous partisans of Israel.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  952. Anon[213] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave

    My little buddy the NeverTrumper Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote to Colin Wright

    Wrong “little buddy” Davey. I think you’re cracking up from the many ASSaults against your lies. Full Spectrum Truth Dominance over you. It must be the first time in a long while that you’ve got an F on an exam and face flunking out of the class. Oh well, your loss is our gain.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  953. Anon[213] • Disclaimer says:

    Take the following comment from Nicelamb (that Ron Unz gave a gold border to – something he no doubt deeply regrets now in light of the devastation caused by these Big Pharma poisons):

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/a-continuation-of-the-covid-vaxxing-debate/?showcomments#comment-4879103

    So glad you dug up that scurrilous comment, along with Ronnie’s dubious complicity. Don’t expect a mea culpa from either one however. That’s just not their style. To err is human to forgive is divine. But neither Runz nor Scheissland is really human after all.

  954. Ron Unz says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Ron Unz, those are some stunning statistics posted by Geokat…Ron, how much longer are you going to keep your head buried in the sand on this Mass Cull of Humanity?

    Antit-vaxxery is just total crackpottery and apparently some of the anti-vaxxing crackpots who hang around here are trying to now revive the nonsense, now largely forgotten.

    So some random nut that nobody has every heard of posts ridiculous mortality statistics on Twitter and all the other nuts go wild.

    Do you really believe that TOTAL MORTALITY has recently risen by 36.9% in Spain and nobody noticed? Anti-vaxxers are the stupidest, most gullible people in the world. I remember a couple of years ago when one of the leading anti-vaxxer was claiming that 1/3 of all Americans would soon be dead from vaxxing, and lots of the other idiotic anti-vaxxers promoted his nonsense.

    Just out of curiosity, I just now updated my monthly mortality totals in the US, and they dramatically dropped once again in 2023. They’ll probably soon be back down to what they were before Covid came along, despite all our massive vaxxing.

    Most of the huge spike in American death rates occurred during 2020 before any vaxxing. And after the huge vaxxing campaign began, they’ve been steadily dropping.

    Stupid, ignorant, gullible, innumerate anti-vaxxers…

  955. @Ron Unz

    Stupid, ignorant, gullible, innumerate anti-vaxxers…

    Indeed we are stupid to trust a Jew who made his fortune writing algorithms for Wall Street banksters and then pretends to be a populist man of the people. Really, you should apply to be Trump’s Treasury Secretary. Then you will be back in your true element, like a pig in muck:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd-Nig9Uwhg

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  956. @Ron Unz

    Antit-vaxxery is just total crackpottery and apparently some of the anti-vaxxing crackpots who hang around here are trying to now revive the nonsense, now largely forgotten.

    Well, it’s all akin to the more extreme forms of 9/11 Trutherism vs the inarguable evidence of Israeli complicity.

    Just as no, there really were planes, and they really were flown by Muslim terrorists, and yes, they really made the buildings fall down — but the Israelis knew it was going to happen, and let it happen, and wanted it to happen — so the anti-Vax hysteria may be overblown, but the fact remains that the vaccine doesn’t actually keep you from catching the disease, and even, since it may well ameliorate the symptoms, makes it all the more likely you’ll keep feeling fine and go about, spreading the disease more than you would if you felt awful.

    And that has implications. There is no reason I should get vaccinated unless I feel I’m so elderly and sickly that there’s a reasonable chance the disease itself would personally endanger me. Why give a healthy five-year old the vaccine, for example? Covid isn’t a danger to him; giving him the vaccine only makes him more likely to serve as a vector for the disease. In fact, if there is any chance at all that the vaccine may have adverse health effects, it becomes completely irrational to give him the vaccine. You’re swapping a known and miniscule risk of catching an almost certainly non-fatal virus for an unknown chance of something that may have unknown and fatal effects. The healthy blond child Israel used as its poster boy for the vaccine just mysteriously died of heart failure at the age of eight.

    It’s like the South Sea Bubble. You have your 100 million dollar pile or whatever — no doubt invested in something you feel is reasonably secure. How about giving it all to me, to be put into an enterprise ‘whose nature cannot be revealed at this time’?

    No? Well, that’s how I felt about the vaccine. Being sixty five, but in passable health, and usually fairly impervious to flus and the like, the vaccine just struck me as a bad risk. After all, the Covid almost certainly wouldn’t kill me — in fact, I suspect I had the virus. My wife tested positive, and I had some kind of mild but decidedly lingering bug for several weeks there.

    But life went on. It really wasn’t too bad. On the other hand, the vaccine…

    Well, no.

  957. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Do you really believe that TOTAL MORTALITY has recently risen by 36.9% in Spain and nobody noticed?

    As the voice recording (or, more accurately, the subtitles) in this video clip demonstrates, the text in the original tweet misquoted the European parliamentarian. The numbers do not refer to a spike in “all cause mortality,” they refer to a spike in “excess mortality.”

    Here’s a snapshot of the chart with the words excess mortality in the top left corner:

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  958. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I don’t know where to place Woody Allen in something like that. His personal morality is questionable but I am unaware of him expressing any views on Israel, despite his New York Jewish persona. His stray comments on politics and religion, sometimes expressed through characters he plays, tend to suggest considerable skepticism. He may simply be too intelligent to be a good Zionist – it may have nothing to do with morality.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  959. @Ron Unz

    You’ve gone out on a limb to state that Covid was a biowarfare attack against China and Iran orchestrated by a rabid Christian-Zionist like Pompeo. If you really believe that, then why don’t you want to accept that Covaxx is ALSO a biowarfare agent, or at least was developed in conjunction with it? What kind of stupid game are you playing with us Runz?

    (You unfortunately remind me of the rabbis back in my yeshiva days. Just when you think you understand a Talmudic argument, they pull a new rabbit out of the hat, introduce another commenter from anywhere in the past 1000 years, and with a big smile tell you that you still don’t get it. That seems to be your MO: Rabbi Ron Unz, master of geopolitical pilpul — and working for whom?)

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  960. In fact, I can’t resist pointing out that the virus itself didn’t noticeably affect our lives or those or anyone we knew; lots of people caught it, but the effects invariably ranged from non-existent to mild. It’s still raging, I assume. It’s just that now we ignore it.

    On the other hand, the innumerable and apparently invariably ineffectual counter-measures played with everything. We had to wear those damned masks. We couldn’t go camping. Stores were closed. Restaurants were closed, then open with reduced seating, then closed again, then open for outside dining only, then closed again, then… They were open in this county, but closed in that one. Then the next week it was reversed.

    Handfuls of cash were passed out for some reason, jump-starting the inflation that hasn’t gone away since. Schooling was wrecked. Death rates from suicide and drug overdoses mushroomed.

    Cliff, our incredibly garrulous and popular if senile neighbor finally died — not of the Covid — and no one could go to his funeral. His widow really liked that.

    Personally speaking, the most infuriating were the international travel restrictions. Part of the plot in moving up here to Oregon was that we could at least shorten the admittedly cold, dark, wet and insufferably prolonged winters by escaping to the Southern hemisphere every February or so.

    Not so fast, buddy. You stay right where you are and experience darkness at noon. Why?

    Good question. Why indeed? If the Covid is raging here, and the Covid is raging there, what difference does it make if people fly back and forth? Why, none at all!

    But never mind. No travel. Of course, it was around then that I realized we really are ruled by idiots. I mean, I always said it — but it was only then that I realized that it was actually true.

    God, what a fucking waste. We could have bridged the Pacific Ocean or something. Instead, we horsed around with a goddamned flu for two-plus years.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  961. Wild Man says:
    @Ron Unz

    “Most of the huge spike in American death rates occurred during 2020 before any vaxxing. And after the huge vaxxing campaign began, they’ve been steadily dropping.”

    You imply there was a timing correlation between rising covid vaxxing rates and falling mortality rates: Wrong.

    As well, you never did properly make your case: That this was a legitimate vaxxing effort provided by our more-or-less moral and fair-minded vaccinology community, in the wake of the clandestine release of an American bio-engineered for bio-weaponization purposes, coronavirus, in Wuhan China or thereabouts, in around early-to-mid-November 2019, in order to eventuate a rogue American neocon agenda (not really a strategy, but instead a tactical kneejerk blunder) of knocking back the Chinese economy a good notch or two.

    To point: Why was the vaxxing effort not effective? Are you still claiming that the mRNA western sars-cov-2 vaccines were effective? I don’t think there are any credible claims anymore, to that end – no? If the more-or-less moral and fair-minded vaccinology community, didn’t actually deliver on ‘saving us from the evil but unbelievably stupid, rogue American neocons’, but instead got behind the coercive government campaigns to force the use of these useless products, …. well, … how is that ‘moral and fair-minded’ then? But of course, there is more wrong with your overall theory, … but come now, … it doesn’t even pass a basic sniff test.

    Look, …. I for one am not claiming outrageous levels of mortality due to the vaxxing (I was the guy that claimed it was probably at least about 1 per 50,000 per shot, which you scoffed at, as a nothingburger, all along), but on the other hand, there definitely is a signal there, with respect to vaxxing, in the very least, as to it not helping (or much worse depending on how much excess mortality one assigns to potentiality un-analyized health complications downstream of covid infections). In other words, …. you still don’t know much, I still don’t know much, …. we all still don’t know much. The great covid phenomenon that commenced in 2019 is still wrapped in layers and layers of intrigue (you may get to write about it some day from your favored Historical Revisionist method of analysis, and might make good hay with that future effort, some day). But then, may I ask – why the continued current invective, on your part, then?

    • Replies: @Anon
  962. @Ron Unz

    ‘…Stupid, ignorant, gullible, innumerate anti-vaxxers…’

    That people are stupid and willfully self-deluding is hardly news. In fact, let’s not go there…

    What is novel and significant is that it’s all — Black Bullshit Matters, the election, the Covid, the obvious tripe about the Ukraine — led to a dramatic decline in public trust.

    That’s always been shaky, but we no longer believe anything we’re told.

    It’s producing a kind of Tower of Babel effect. Lacking any collectively accepted source of reality, we all start rolling our own — and more and more, we don’t agree about anything. I say the Holocaust happened. You say it didn’t. The lady in the Walmart return line says Angela Merkel was Hitler’s love child.

    It just keeps getting worse.

  963. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Antit-vaxxery is just total crackpottery and apparently some of the anti-vaxxing crackpots who hang around here are trying to now revive the nonsense, now largely forgotten…

    Stupid, ignorant, gullible, innumerate anti-vaxxers…

    Ron’s right, we must simply accept the Community Notes warning in this tweet as well-established facts, got it goy?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Colin Wright
  964. Chebyshev says:
    @Colin Wright

    There really were planes, and they really were flown by Muslim terrorists, and yes, they really made the buildings fall down — but the Israelis knew it was going to happen, and let it happen, and wanted it to happen

    From what I’ve read here, the planes didn’t make the buildings fall down. The buildings fell down because of controlled demolition by the Mossad and their NYC sayanim. And I’m pretty sure the Mossad was in communication with some or all of the Muslim hijackers before the attacks, but I could be wrong about that part.

  965. @Wielgus

    ‘I don’t know where to place Woody Allen in something like that. His personal morality is questionable but I am unaware of him expressing any views on Israel, despite his New York Jewish persona. His stray comments on politics and religion, sometimes expressed through characters he plays, tend to suggest considerable skepticism. He may simply be too intelligent to be a good Zionist – it may have nothing to do with morality.’

    On the one hand, I’d say his personal morality is questionable but hardly criminal. I just wouldn’t trust him to escort my daughter to the theater, put it that way. But hey: did someone nominate him for the curate? He makes movies.

    On the other hand, he did — perhaps with reluctance — sign off on support for Israel. All Jews have to to do that, unless they want to be consigned to the outer darkness. Oliver Goldstone found out what happened if you don’t toe the line. So did Norm Finkelstein. Paul Krugman has explicitly said he won’t go there. Bernie Sanders pathetically waffles. Albert Einstein obscurely said that ‘he was ashamed’ that he would have to decline the offer to be the first president of Israel. Even when Lou Reed (!) died, Laurie Anderson felt it necessary to assure everyone that really, Lou had loved Israel.

    You gotta be good. It’s especially true if you’re Jewish.

    But in general, it seems to me that the best of the Jews are fundamentally indifferent to Israel or even hostile to it. They can stand on their own two feet, thank you.

    It is precisely those Jews who have some personal deficiency, who feel the need for a crutch for their self-esteem, who become mighty supporters of Israel. They take refuge in that big, strong, frightening alter ego. At least two of these partisans — Jeffrey Goldberg and Jonathan Pollard — were bullied in school. Now, as adherents of Israel, they can be big and strong, if only by association.

  966. @Michael Korn

    ‘Indeed we are stupid to trust a Jew who made his fortune writing algorithms for Wall Street banksters and then pretends to be a populist man of the people. Really, you should apply to be Trump’s Treasury Secretary. Then you will be back in your true element, like a pig in muck:’

    I really see this sort of abuse as pointless — particularly when it is aimed at the owner of the site. All we’re going to find out is at what point Ron will ban you — and he most assuredly will, and should. You won’t leave him much choice.

    The raw fact is that he is the host of this party, and it is his house. He appears to not mind it if we dance on the table, and even occasionally pull his whiskers. It’s one of his more attractive qualities, actually — a remarkable dedication to free speech. However, there is a raw power relationship here, and whatever Ron’s moral principles, it doesn’t go away.

    He will eventually throw you out. And then what? You’ll have been silenced, and we’ll all agree you should have been.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Truth Vigilante
  967. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    Antit-vaxxery is just total crackpottery and apparently some of the anti-vaxxing crackpots who hang around here are trying to now revive the nonsense, now largely forgotten…

    Stupid, ignorant, gullible, innumerate anti-vaxxers…

    Ron, these words totally capture how most astute people like yourself would characterize world renowned cardiologist Dr Peter McCullough.

    Here’s what the most published cardiologist has to say regarding the safety of the experimental mRNA injections…

  968. @Chebyshev

    From what I’ve read here, the planes didn’t make the buildings fall down. The buildings fell down because of controlled demolition by the Mossad and their NYC sayanim. And I’m pretty sure the Mossad was in communication with some or all of the Muslim hijackers before the attacks, but I could be wrong about that part.

    Given that, the planes become a Rube-Goldbergesque complication. Why bother with them? A million things could go wrong. They might not show up, and then what? The building blows up without explanation? The hijackers are apprehended — and disclose their contacts? The plane flies into the wrong building — or misses it entirely — and a different building falls down while the one hit remains standing?

    Why not just detonate a delivery van in the basement with some strategically surviving documentation the FBI can dutifully uncover? Why the planes? It’s like the Mitchell and Webb skit about the assassination of Princess Di. The planes become an absurd risk and complication.

    If I were going to stage a 9/11 with planted charges, I’d just dream up a false paper trail. I wouldn’t bother with frigging planes. On the other hand, if I discovered — as I think the Israelis did — that al Qaeda was cooking up something like this with hijacked airliners, I’d watch with benign interest, helping out to the extent I could without actually implicating myself in the attacks — see how it goes. After all, just the murderous hijackings would be a win. Actual buildings would be gravy.

    And I think that’s what happened. In fact, the ‘dancing Israelis’ just go to show what idiots the Israelis are. If a professional intelligence agency had been arranging something like this, they’d have taken great care to be well clear before der Tag. Watch the news, and — if no one was watching — smile contentedly.

    Beacons. Possibly the Israelis — or al Qaeda — planted beacons in the buildings. After all, I wouldn’t care to trust an inexperienced and unstable pilot to hit a building dead-on while flying at three hundred and fifty miles per hour. People are going to flinch. They’ll get confused. They’ll hit too high, or hit the wrong building entirely. They may even wind up bombing Hartford or something. What about the frigging weather?

    …but if I were going to plant actual bombs in the buildings, I wouldn’t bother with the planes at all. That just makes no sense. KISS — Keep it Simple, Stupid.

  969. Anon[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wild Man

    Superb comment in excellent questions to Ronnie boy. Ron’s bizarre stance is an apologist for big farmers Kovacs is a huge red flag for me about his entire website. I really struggled to try to figure it all out and today I think I got it.

    Before I get into that, check out some of brother Nathaniel’s videos about covid. He carefully identified the overwhelming Jewish and Israeli makeup of big Pharma CEOs who most benefited from the enormous government payouts for their so-called vaccine. He has a lot of information about this but start with just this video that discusses a British medical journals claim that the covid shot destroys our natural immunity for a host of illnesses including forms of cancer. And if that’s true then the negative ramifications will only become apparent over the years. But in the meantime the myocarditis cases seem hard to ignore:

    [MORE]

    https://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1515



    Video Link

    Other Brother Nathaniel links for future investigation:
    Jewish and Israeli identities of these Big Pharma CEOs:
    https://www.realjewnews.com/?s=Covid&id=1605



    Video Link
    https://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1692
    https://www.rt.com/news/570653-pfizer-engineered-covid-mutation/
    https://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1504



    Video Link
    https://www.realjewnews.com/
    https://www.realjewnews.com/mp4/

    Here are some thoughts I shared with a friend who’s also a prolific Unz commenter:

    It really disturbs me that Unz is an apologist for Big Pharma and the covid vaccine. It’s the single biggest red flag that I see in his vast body of work. I have to assume that his work on Wall Street that made him into a millionaire caused him to forge alliances with these kinds of companies and people.

    It’s interesting that concerning the Holocaust and places like Auschwitz, many German corporations were utilizing and benefiting from the slave labor. These companies had an interest in ignoring prisoner conditions and the possibility of extermination campaigns. They were apologists for the German concentration camps as vital adjuncts to Germany’s war-industries. And they didn’t want to see beyond that.

    Ron has never written anything about the appalling economic conditions of workers in this country. I think he’s a corporatist at heart. His main issues are with Jewish criminals gambling interests and Mafia people, all the types that might threaten the comfortable White collar identities of Ron and his Wall Street buddies.

    The problem with this perspective is he doesn’t seem to recognize the enormous Wall Street investment in Israel. He seems to definitely oppose the notion of Israel as a Jewish homeland and he’s willing to wipe away the considerable financial stake Wall Street has generated over there. (A couple of years ago I met a manager from the big Intel plant here in Fort Collins. He told me that Israel is the most important overseas manufacturing location for Intel and that Israeli IT people fill the Intel corporation.)

    At any rate, I find Ron’s constant apologetics for the covid vaccine industry very disturbing and it makes me question everything that he stands for. I don’t believe he’s a person of integrity. He certainly does not have compassion. He is fundamentally an egotist in love with his own supposedly high IQ. He has contempt for people who can’t wade through oceans of data the way he can ensconced in his Palo Alto hideaway living off of his millions in the bank. And it seems clear that he has no respect for any form of spirituality.

    A friend in San Francisco who is a Harvard Law School graduate told me that Unz has a lot of good ideas but his character is extremely flawed and I should keep away from him. He says that Unz tends to exacerbate the worst traits in people, he does not foster a genuine community built around compassion. He’s like an intellectual Darwinist frantically seeking to elevate the smartest people like him in a ruthless battle for survival.

    At the end of the day, Ron seems no different from the Jewish faculty member at Stanford who once told me the real golden rule: “He who has the gold makes the rules.” And I suspect since Big Pharma constitutes such an enormous share of stock market valuation in America and around the world, it automatically garners Ron’s attention respect and apologetics.

  970. Anon[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    People are abused on this website all the time, including myself. Why should Ron be immune to such abuse especially since he doesn’t moderate it towards anyone else?

    We all are like blind men groping around this enormous elephant called Ron Unz trying to figure out what it really is what it’s motivation might be for operating this website. Why he arbitrarily censors some people and not others. I have made my contribution honestly sharing my perspectives. You seem to focus on kissing Ron’s ass. Which is why we call you Colon Wong.

    If Ron bans me it will simply confirm that many of my aspersions about him are correct. And I’m sure others will agree with that as well.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  971. @geokat62

    The claim 17 million died from COVID vaccines is false and baseless. Serious COVID vaccine adverse events are extremely rare:

    England for example has 63 vaccine deaths ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati…

    Australia has 14 vaccine deaths tga.gov.au/news/covid-19-…

    Canada has 4 vaccine deaths health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vacci…

    New Zealand has 4 vaccine deaths health.govt.nz/news-media/new…

    Those rates vary more than they should. Canada, for example, has half as many people as Great Britain — why less than one-tenth as many deaths? Aren’t they all using the same vaccines? Was Canada’s immunization rate markedly lower.

    Of course, below a certain point the numbers become statistically insignificant — but still. What it suggests to me that what is counted as a ‘Covid Vaccine death’ depends on how one counts. It’s the same thing as what happened with the death count from Covid itself; only then the authorities were motivated to drive the count up, while perhaps now they’re motivated to drive the count down. Only four vaccine deaths in Canada? Really?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  972. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Just out of curiosity, I just now updated my monthly mortality totals in the US, and they dramatically dropped once again in 2023. They’ll probably soon be back down to what they were before Covid came along, despite all our massive vaxxing.

    Most of the huge spike in American death rates occurred during 2020 before any vaxxing. And after the huge vaxxing campaign began, they’ve been steadily dropping.

    Careful, Ron. In your zeal to drive down your estimated death toll, you might end up with numbers aligned with those put out by the Community Notes in that tweet where Dr Peter McCullough endorsed the Rancourt study that found 17 million deaths were associated with these experimental jabs.

    Here’s the limiting factor. The latest VAERS report has close to 40,000 deaths from the injections. If we use a conservative underreporting factor of 30, we arrive at a death toll of 1.2M and counting.

    Niceland has already acknowledged the jabs aren’t effective, we’re all patiently awaiting for you to acknowledge they aren’t safe.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  973. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    Churchill was — as so many critics said — unbalanced. Well-intentioned enough — I’m sure he’d have made a fine, interesting neighbor (perhaps about a mile distant) — but given to impractical projects that culminated in disaster and sentimentally-driven policies that had the same ill effect. If he was willing to wage war without restraint and seek victory at all costs — well, given that war has come, don’t you want to win? One can debate the wisdom of that choice, but it’s unreasonably to condemn it without qualification.

    Well, actually, no, it is a violation of international law — the Geneva Conventions and all that — to “seek victory at all costs.” No, I do not want to win at any price — there are some things worse than defeat.

    Churchill, as a student of history, was of course aware of this — I assume you know of the mock trial he and the evil Truman held in the White House (see here)?

    And of course you know about the actual production of “anthrax cakes” and the actual use of anthrax in the “experiment” on Gruinard Island (see here)? Fortunately, the Nazis surrendered before enough anthrax cakes had been stockpiled for actual use.

    And most of all, there was the actual “strategic bombing” aimed to terrorize civilians. Like 9/11, but enormously worse.

    And, of course, the main accusation at Nürnberg was that the Nazis started the War. But the Nazis actually started a minor territorial war, rather like the current Ukraine war, or, an even better analogy, the Mexican War. It was the Brits and the French who turned it into a World War. (To be sure, Chamberlain was still PM then — but Winston, as always, was a force of nature pushing for war).

    Colin also wrote:

    Roosevelt seems to have been a singularly manipulative and dishonest politician who, however, was trying to do what he saw as right for the United States and right for America.

    And I am quite, quite certain that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao did what they thought was best for Germany, Russia, and China — I have never seen anyone try to argue the contrary!

    Indeed, that is far, far more certain than in the case of FDR: it is easy to see how Hitler thought that his actions with regard to Danzig were in the interest of Germany. It is also easy to see how FDR thought his drive to war was in the interest of FDR .

    But Germany and Japan were not threats to the USA at all — FDR had to blatantly lie about the supposed fake map allegedly showing Nazi plans to invade the US.

    FDR lied and lied and lied and lied to push us into the War. He ran and won in 1940 on the promise of keeping us our of war:

    “I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again; your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars.”

    My dad remembered hearing this, and bitterly repeated it to me when I was a kid.

    Over 400, 000 Americans died in World War II to keep FDR in office and, as I pointed out earlier, to turn Eastern Europe over from Hitler to Stalin and China from Imperial Japan to the murderous Maoist Communists.

    As I have always said, I consider one of the great tragedies of American history to be the fact that Giuseppe Zangara was such a lousy shot that he took out Anton Cermak rather than FDR.

    Colin also wrote:

    [FDR] was perhaps the only figure who could have led us through the Great Depression without it all ending in a catastrophic revolution.

    Look at the historical statistics: FDR never managed to end the Depression — not until the War (yes, a draft is one way to end unemployment!). The reason is quite clear — rather than allowing prices to fall to the new equilibrium level, after the money supply had collapsed in 1929-33, both Hoover and FDR insisted on propping up prices at an unsustainable level.

    This is elementary monetary economics.

    Of which FDR and his advisors (and the same for Hoover) were stunningly ignorant.

    I could go on and on and on about these two monsters.

    Anyway, I had said they were “almost as evil as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.”

    You agree that Churchill was “unbalanced” and that FDR was “a singularly manipulative and dishonest politician.”

    And millions died, quite pointlessly, as a result — unless you consider the real point to have been to hand Eastern Europe over from Hitler to Stalin and China from Imperial Japan to the murderous Maoist Communists.

    As the punchline of the old joke has it, we are now merely haggling over the price. Over the issue of how close these two monsters really were to the other monsters, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

    They were certainly closer, in terms of the actual results of their actions, than most Westerners are willing to admit.

    Indeed, their actions were key to empowering Stalin and, especially, Mao.

    Churchill and FDR were profoundly evil men.

    • Disagree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  974. Ron Unz says:
    @geokat62

    As the voice recording (or, more accurately, the subtitles) in this video clip demonstrates, the text in the original tweet misquoted the European parliamentarian. The numbers do not refer to a spike in “all cause mortality,” they refer to a spike in “excess mortality.”

    Okay, let’s go through this slowly.

    (1) Some anti-vaxxer Tweeted out crazy, ridiculously impossible mortality statistics without recognizing how absurd they were. So he’s obviously a total idiot.

    (2) You then promoted and endorsed those crazy, ridiculously impossible mortality statistics without recognizing how absurd they were. So you’re also a total idiot.

    (3) Some of your anti-vaxxer friends then highlighted and praised your endorsement of those crazy, ridiculously impossible mortality statistics without recognizing how absurd they were. So they’re also total idiots.

    (4) By abductive reasoning, this supports my view that anti-vaxxers are generally innumerate, gullible idiots. Apparently, any random fellow can put out a Tweet with crazy numbers and all of them will immediately believe and distribute it.

    And what in the world did they mean by a spike in “excess mortality”? From when to when?

    I just checked and “excess mortality” in heavily-vaxxed America dropped by almost 50% from 2022 and 2023. So I find it very difficult to believe that it meanwhile rocketed higher in all those European countries.

    Israel is one of the most heavily vaxxed countries in the world and I remember a couple of years ago when all the idiotic anti-vaxxers on this website declared that “Israel was doomed” because of all the vaxxing. Well, if they’d been correct in those moronic predictions, the Palestinians of Gaza would be much better off today.

  975. geokat62 says:
    @Colin Wright

    Only four vaccine deaths in Canada? Really?

    Yup! And the leading cause of death in Alberta (one of Canada’s provinces) was “cause unknown.”

    https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/deaths-with-unknown-causes-now-alberta-s-top-killer-province-1.5975536

    Forget Canada. Let’s look at New Zealand, which also has 4 deaths according to establishment sources. Why NZ? Because a real world hero, whistleblower Barry Young, was so concerned with what he discovered when analyzing the data he leaked it to the public.

    Rather than the paltry 4 deaths, Barry Young claims the data showed tens of thousands of deaths in New Zealand were linked to COVID-19 vaccines.

    https://rumble.com/v3zggxm-new-zealand-health-worker-barry-young-blows-the-lid-on-deaths-found-from-co.html

    That’s quite a discrepancy, no?

  976. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Okay, let’s go through this slowly.

    Okay, makes sense. I’ll deal with your 4 points one at a time.

    (1) Some anti-vaxxer Tweeted out crazy, ridiculously impossible mortality statistics without recognizing how absurd they were. So he’s obviously a total idiot.

    Hang on, Ron. You recklessly predicted that 1 million Americans would die in just two months after the pandemic was officially declared back in March 2020, remember?

    You also recklessly called the world’s renowned epidemiologist, Dr John Ioannidis an idiot, remember?

    So, your track record isn’t looking so good, Ron, is it?

    Comment on Point #2 is to come…

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  977. Chebyshev says:
    @Colin Wright

    Given that, the planes become a Rube-Goldbergesque complication. Why bother with them? A million things could go wrong. They might not show up, and then what? The building blows up without explanation? The hijackers are apprehended — and disclose their contacts? The plane flies into the wrong building — or misses it entirely — and a different building falls down while the one hit remains standing?

    Why not just detonate a delivery van in the basement with some strategically surviving documentation the FBI can dutifully uncover? Why the planes?

    Well, I’m far from an expert on this, but I can give you my best guess.

    If the official story were that the Towers were taken down by explosives brought into the basement by van, then after the attacks, everyone would be talking about controlled demolition, which is not what you’d want if you were Israel and you’d just taken down the Towers via controlled demolition. Even if the impacts of the planes didn’t cause the buildings to collapse, the planes had enormous value as red herrings. In the aftermath of the attacks, everybody was talking about airport security and boxcutters and cockpits instead of explosives placed inside the skyscrapers.

    I assume the risk of the planes not hitting the WTC was considered low for a couple reasons. The hijackers were trained pilots I think, and they also must’ve genuinely hated America. So, they would’ve wanted to hijack the planes and hit the WTC and thus cause maximum damage to America. But if despite that, the attacks were somehow colossally screwed up, then Israel would be not much worse off than if they’d never attempted the attacks, since they were already on the ropes due to recent Palestinian attacks. In short, the planes were necessary for the attacks to have sufficient upside for Israel, and their downsides weren’t important enough to outweigh that fact.

    In fact, the ‘dancing Israelis’ just go to show what idiots the Israelis are. If a professional intelligence agency had been arranging something like this, they’d have taken great care to be well clear before der Tag. Watch the news, and — if no one was watching — smile contentedly.

    If they were arrogant enough to think they could perpetrate 9/11 and get away with it, then all sorts of other behaviors by them make sense.

  978. @Anon

    People are abused on this website all the time, including myself. Why should Ron be immune to such abuse especially since he doesn’t moderate it towards anyone else?”

    ‘Should’ has nothing to do with it. What matters in this case is what is — and what is, is that this is Ron’s site.

    You may or may not like it. I may or may not like it. Ron may or may not like it. But the fact remains; that’s what it is.

    …and certain things flow from that. Among them is the principle that if you start gratuitously abusing Ron, all you’re ultimately doing is measuring his tolerance for abuse. It’s essentially a pointless activity.

  979. Ron Unz says:
    @geokat62

    Hang on, Ron. You recklessly predicted that 1 million Americans would die in just two months after the pandemic was officially declared back in March 2020, remember?

    No, I actually don’t remember claiming that 1 million Americans would die in just the first couple of months after the Covid epidemic began.

    If you think I did, why don’t you go ahead and find that statement of mine.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  980. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    If you think I did, why don’t you go ahead and find that statement of mine.

    On March 28, 2020, you posted a comment. Here is the pertinent info:

    Personally, I think we’ll be lucky to avoid over a million deaths by early summer [of 2020].

    [Feeling rather emboldened, you hastened to add]:

    Maybe the figure will be much higher.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/correctly-estimating-coronavirus-infections/?showcomments#comment-3801379

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  981. Wild Man says:
    @Anon

    Wow, … I guess I can’t draw all those conclusions about Unz, myself. I guess in the main (since I don’t know him irl), I like him and I am appreciative of him, because he has put this Unz Review together for us to use, and it is good. But on the vaxxes, ….yeah … his stance is vexing. A vaxx-vexxer – hahahaha! I did speculate at one point (within comments here), that maybe Unz was/is being influenced by his friend Steven Hsu, ….. who knows a heck of alot about transhumanist technologies, …. claims the human ‘g-factor’ potential, as expressed as IQ, is at least 500, and likely 1,000 (many many genes involved) for instance, ….. and this very brilliant Steven Hsu didn’t come out against these vaxxes in the earlier innings, …. when you would think he, of all people, would know this mRNA approach is crazy for intended use (not sure if Hsu changed his mind on these vaxxes, since, or not, though).

    What I am getting at, is that my wild speculation is that a transhumanist life-extension agenda is clandestinely, afoot. A wild speculation, .. it’s true, …. but less wild than Unz’s. And so, obviously, the ongoing Unz-invective is vexing (because truth be told, we are all still at the stage of wild speculation, …. there is a huge mostly unexamined ‘CCP-behavior’ angle that has been mostly ignored, as well, for instance, ….. who really knows what is what, at this stage, … so come now … a bit more ‘humility of doubt’ is what one would expect from others, in such circumstance, then – no? … so it’s odd Unz doesn’t do that, I wholeheartedly agree, …. but I got no clue really why he decides to go that mode on many an occasion).

  982. @Ron Unz

    Do you really believe that TOTAL MORTALITY has recently risen by 36.9% in Spain and nobody noticed? Anti-vaxxers are the stupidest, most gullible people in the world.

    No, I don’t believe that. Nor, as Geokat nicely explains in his comment, is anyone claiming this is an increase in TOTAL mortality.
    It is of course an increase in the EXCESS mortality.
    As for this statement of yours:

    Stupid, ignorant, gullible, innumerate anti-vaxxers…

    Well, the internationally acclaimed Dr John Campbell was never anti-vaxx and he got jabbed like the other lemmings at the beginning of the rollout. But, the deluge of evidence the vaxx was dangerous was too much to ignore.
    Jimmy Dore speaks of Dr Campbell’s findings in the video below titled ‘U.K.’s New Mortality Calculations HIDE Excess Deaths!’:

    SUMMARY: As bad as the raw numbers for excess All Cause Mortality appear to be, they are ACTUALLY MUCH WORSE. Because corrupt Health bureaucracies (and there is no more corrupt example than in the USSA), are manipulating the numbers downward.

    Ron, the mass cull/sterilisation of humanity is a real thing. Ignore it if you wish.
    I certainly won’t be.

    Lastly, your slurs against ‘anti-vaxxers’ have no effect on me. I have never been an anti-vaxxer.
    I am PRO SAFE AND EFFECTIVE VACCINES. (The experimental mRNA gene therapies that people were jabbed with during the Covid Psyop were neither).
    My kids got all the scheduled childhood vaccines when they were infants (although, if I’d known then what I know now, I certainly wouldn’t have allowed them to get get jabbed with the likes of DPT and MMR which are wreaking carnage all over the world).

    In the interim I’ve approached this with an open mind and I’ve learned much over recent years.
    I would strongly recommend you do likewise Ron if you genuinely want to get to the bottom of it.

  983. Ron Unz says:
    @geokat62

    Well, I’ll slightly quibble. In late March 2020, I said in a comment:

    Personally, I think we’ll be lucky to avoid over a million deaths by early summer. Maybe the figure will be much higher.

    Summer begins June 20th, so “early summer” would probably mean the end of July. So I was speculating about four months rather than two. Instead, things progressed much, much more slowly, and it took until the end of the year for “excess deaths” from Covid to reach the half-million mark, and another year to break a million deaths.

    However, you also sharply denounced me on a different matter:

    You also recklessly called the world’s renowned epidemiologist, Dr John Ioannidis an idiot, remember?

    As it happens, your hero Dr. Ioannidis made his own Covid predictions around the same time as I did, but in a published article rather than a casual comment. And here’s what he predicted:

    If we assume that case fatality rate among individuals infected by SARS-CoV-2 is 0.3% in the general population — a mid-range guess from my Diamond Princess analysis — and that 1% of the U.S. population gets infected (about 3.3 million people), this would translate to about 10,000 deaths. This sounds like a huge number, but it is buried within the noise of the estimate of deaths from “influenza-like illness.” If we had not known about a new virus out there, and had not checked individuals with PCR tests, the number of total deaths due to “influenza-like illness” would not seem unusual this year. At most, we might have casually noted that flu this season seems to be a bit worse than average. The media coverage would have been less than for an NBA game between the two most indifferent teams.

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

    His prediction of 10,000 total Covid deaths in America was very widely publicized all around the media and the Internet.

    So whereas my timing was very far off, I certainly got the ultimate number correct. Meanwhile, Ioannidis was off by well over 10,000%, something I’d regard as a much more serious failing.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Truth Vigilante
  984. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    (1) Some anti-vaxxer Tweeted out crazy, ridiculously impossible mortality statistics without recognizing how absurd they were. So he’s obviously a total idiot.

    … one more on #1

    Well, I decided to visit the official website that hosts European Union data, known as eurostat to see if the data in that tweet was garbage or accurate.

    After reviewing the data in this article, I can confirm that the info in the tweet is very accurate.

    Excerpt from Excess mortality hits +16%, highest 2022 value so far:

    Excess mortality continued to vary across the EU Member States, with eight Member States recording values above the EU average. The highest rates in July 2022, more than double the EU average, were recorded in Spain (+37%) and Cyprus (+33%). Greece followed with +31%.

    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20220916-1

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  985. @Colin Wright

    Colon Wrong writes:

    Just as no, there really were planes, and they really were flown by Muslim terrorists, and yes, they really made the buildings fall down ….

    I posted a video in my comment # 948 (only a specified few mins of that video need to be viewed), that demonstrates that THERE IS NO PROOF THAT A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE 19 MUSLIM ‘HIJACKERS’ ALLEGED TO HAVE PERPETRATED 9/11, BOARDED ANY OF THE FOUR PLANES THAT WERE ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FALSE FLAG.

    Yet Colon Wrong keeps bleating on about these ‘Muslim terrorists’.
    FFS, can someone please put Colon Wrong out of MY misery?
    Because every minute longer that Colon Wrong breathes and walks upon the Earth is amplifying my misery and no doubt doing likewise for others.

    Yes UR readers, this is the same Colon Wrong that rarely (if ever) involves himself in those UR threads that deal with the Holohoax, that never exchanges dialogue with the likes of the immeasurably knowledgeable John Wear, who is always obliging and will furnish all the proof in the world that THERE WERE NO GAS CHAMBERS USED IN WWII ON JEWS (or anyone else for that matter) and that the 6 million killed figure is a preposterous lie.

    But, undeterred, Colon Wrong keeps peddling the asinine 6 million/gas chambers line, hoping all the while that he’ll be hired as an extra in a Steven Spielberg production like Sophie’s Choice II or equivalent.

    I ask you UR readers, other than for the likes of John’s Johnson and Wizard of ZOG, has there ever been a more stupid individual in this webzine than this moron?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  986. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Meanwhile, Ioannidis was off by well over 10,000%…

    10,000%, huh?

    Your criticism can be boiled down to this, i.e., Ioannidis’ optimistic scenario was too optimistic. Such a devastating critique!

    You’re not alone in making this baseless accusation against Ioannidis, however.

    Another critic of the anti-vaccination movement, David Gorski (professor of surgery at Wayne State University School of Medicine), tried sticking the same dagger in the good professor’s reputation. But, unlike you, he at least had the decency of quoting Ioannidis’ defence.

    Excerpt from What the heck happened to John Ioannidis?:

    I never said that I knew that the death toll was going to be “10,000 deaths in the US”. How could I, in a piece where the message was “we don’t know”! The 10,000 deaths in the US projection was meant to be in the most optimistic range of the spectrum and in the same piece I also described the most pessimistic end of the spectrum, 40 million deaths. The point I wanted to emphasize was the huge uncertainty.

    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-heck-happened-to-john-ioannidis/

  987. @Colin Wright

    Colon Wrong writes this in responding to Michael Korn:

    He [Ron Unz] will eventually throw you out. And then what?
    You’ll have been silenced, and we’ll all agree you should have been.

    Why am I not suprised that a slavish follower of the edicts of his ‘betters’ in omniscient Big Government would say such a thing?
    Of course Colon Wrong has never been one to admire First Amendment freedom of speech protection rights.
    As far as Colon Wrong is concerned, whatever those ‘Wise Overlords’ that rule over him say, this must be adhered to religiously.
    If it means his kids/grandkids getting jabbed with those toxic clot shots that will induce myocarditis/blood clots/fast metastasising cancers and their premature demise (or after the spike proteins in the mRNA concoction accumulate in the ovaries/testes, a generation of young women and men will be unable to conceive), then so be it.
    As far as he’s concerned:

    ZOG HAS SPOKEN. WE MUST DUTIFULLY OBLIGE.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  988. Mark G. says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Why give a healthy five year old the vaccine, for example?”

    A number of governments in Europe and states here in America ended up coming to that conclusion and did not advocate the vaccine for children or adolescents. 99.7% of all Covid deaths were among people over 60 so it was reasonable for them to get vaccinated but just doing that would not have maximized big pharma profits.

    The pro-vaxxer Biden said if you got vaccinated you would not get Covid, something that was not true, so they were wrong on that. I ran into a former coworker today who told me she was vaccinated but still got such a bad case of Covid she couldn’t stand up for three days.

    The biggest scandal for me, though, was that the government threatened to yank the medical licenses of doctors trying to develop and implement early home treatments for Covid. If these had been easily available hundreds of thousands of lives might have been saved.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  989. H. L. M says:
    @Ron Unz

    I wonder where you could find accurate death stats that would shore up your claims.

    The insurance industry? Perhaps.

    The USG? Probably not.

    Who would you trust Ron?

  990. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] ‘Let’s be a bit more precise here. “We,” meaning the American people, were not interested in going to war…’

    [Colin] You’d need to demonstrate that to me.

    That is what the opinion polls at the time indicated — it all changed after FDR “maneuvered” the Japanese into attackinfg Pearl, of course, which is why he found it necessary to provoke Japan.

    This is mentioned in countless historical references.

    See here for example:

    Public opinion polling was still in its infancy as World War II approached, but surveys suggested the force of events in Europe in 1940 had a powerful impact on American ideas about the war. In January of that year, one poll found that 88% of Americans opposed the idea of declaring war against the Axis powers in Europe. As late as June, only 35% of Americans believed their government should risk war to help the British.

    That site does add:

    That number only increased as Britain continued its standoff with the Germans; by April 1941 polls showed that 68% of Americans favored war against the Axis powers if that was the only way to defeat them. [emphasis added]

    And, of course, by that time, Hitler had been stopped in the West– the Nazis lost the Battle of Britain.

    Colin also wrote:

    The isolationists were on the fringe; they weren’t the consensus.

    The “isolationists” (properly speaking, non-interventionists — they did not wish to “isolate” America but merely to avoid war) were indeed the consensus as late as the 1940 election, which is why Roosevelt ran on the platform of promising not to send American boys to fight in foreign wars.

    Yes, it was changing in 1941, after intense propaganda from Roosevelt and the Eastern Establishment. But there was definitely no consensus for war until after the attack on Pearl.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  991. Ron Unz says:
    @geokat62

    After reviewing the data in this article, I can confirm that the info in the tweet is very accurate.

    Excerpt from Excess mortality hits +16%, highest 2022 value so far:

    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20220916-1

    Thanks for the link. This is exactly why I consider anti-vaxxers to be such totally ridiculous people.

    This entire absurd exchange began when you endorsed and promoted a Tweet claiming that because of vaxxing, “all cause mortality” in Spain had skyrocketed by 36.9%(!!!) and by huge amounts in other heavily-vaxxed European countries:

    Only an idiot could believe something like that, so naturally all the other anti-vaxxers agreed with you and praised your “discovery.”

    But when I clicked your click, it actually showed that in the particular month of July 2022, the “excess mortality” in Spain was 36.9%, which is something utterly, utterly different.

    Everyone knows that “excess mortality” was high a couple of years ago during the peak of the Covid epidemic, with some months being worse for particular countries than others.

    If you can’t understand the difference between what you believed and were claiming and the actual underlying facts, you’re even more hopeless than I imagined.

    Last year, I published several articles in which I conclusively demonstrated that there was absolutely no relationship between vaxxing and higher death rates, especially among the non-elderly, and I’m not going to repeat myself:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/obesity-and-the-end-of-the-vaxxing-debate/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/vaxxing-covid-and-international-mortality-rates/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/vaxxing-risks-for-the-elderly/

    I sometimes suspect that all this anti-vaxxing nonsense was promoted as a Cass Sunstein-type plot to get very gullible anti-establishment activists to make themselves look totally ridiculous.

    Anyway, I’m not going to waste any more time on this ridiculous anti-vaxxing issue, which fortunately has almost totally disappeared from public discussion over the last year or so.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Wild Man
    , @Slimer
  992. @Colin Wright

    If I were going to stage a 9/11 with planted charges, I’d just dream up a false paper trail. I wouldn’t bother with frigging planes.

    Well, even though you’re a useful idiot of ZOG and unknowingly (or perhaps knowingly?) advancing their agenda, you’re not ZOG are you?
    You don’t have multiples of U.S GDP in financial wherwithal like ZOG does.
    You don’t have the capacity to print/digitally comjure scores of trillions more with a key stroke on your computer to dole out to yourself like ZOG does, by way of ownership/control of the U.S Federal Reserve and the other western central banks.

    ZOG knew that after the first plane strike that every news helicopter, every camcorder in NYC would be focused on the burning North Tower and thus be in a position to film the second plane impact on the South tower.

    The WHOLE POINT on this exercise was to TRAUMATISE THE AMERICAN AND WORLD PUBLIC by getting them to witness the tragedy unfold in real time, to witness the jumpers from the North tower fall to their deaths.

    This would generate the necessary anger to convince the public of the need for:

    1) An immediate retaliatory strike on those damned ‘rag heads’ that hate us for our [cough] freedom.
    2) The need for the introduction of the unpatriotic ‘Patriot Act’ that greatly took away the freedoms of Americans.

    Let’s take, by way of example, the most egregious criminal act of the second half of the 20th century. ie: the JFK coup d’etat.
    If ZOG wanted to follow the ‘KISS’ principle, they could have put some toxin in JFK’s toothpaste, or get the White House chef to put something in JFK’s evening meal that induced a fast acting cancer (like they did to Yacob Rubinstein or Hugo Chavez),

    But instead ZOG chose to kill JFK in broad daylight in front of thosands of witnesses.
    Of course Colon Wrong, you are TOO STUPID to know what ZOG’s motives were, so let me explain it to you:

    ZOG PUPROSELY CHOSE TO KILL JFK IN BROAD DAYLIGHT IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS OF WITNESSES BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE WORLD AND TO ANYONE THAT MIGHT CHALLENGE THEIR AUTHORITY IN FUTURE.
    And that message was:

    ‘WE CAN KILL ANYONE IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, AND EVEN CLEARLY SHOOT JFK FROM THE FRONT. BUT WE ARE SO POWERFUL THAT WE CAN PUT OUT A STORY THAT JFK WAS SHOT FROM BEHIND, FROM SOMEONE IN THE TSBD, AND WE WILL GET AWAY WITH IT – because the unthinking masses always believe what the NYT/the CDC/Tony Fauci and Dan Rather is telling them.

    Got it now Colon?

    Your foolishness never ceases to amaze me. Just when I think you cannot be any more stupid, you pull a Matzah Ball out of the hat and lower the bar even further.

  993. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Only an idiot could believe something like that, so naturally all the other anti-vaxxers agreed with you and praised your “discovery.”…

    Anyway, I’m not going to waste any more time on this ridiculous anti-vaxxing issue, which fortunately has almost totally disappeared from public discussion over the last year or so.

    lol, I sense desperation setting in, Ron.

    You’re actually grasping on the error someone made in a tweet by mistakenly writing “all cause mortality” instead of “excess mortality?”

    Tell us something, Ron. Given you had no reservations making a prediction of how deadly Covid-19 would be, what would you say is your best estimate of the number of Americans that have died from the injections and what would that number look like if you extrapolated it globally?

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  994. @Anon

    At any rate, I find Ron’s constant apologetics for the covid vaccine industry very disturbing and it makes me question everything that he stands for.

    Thanks for all that you wrote in your comment Mev.

    I like to give Ron Unz the benefit of the doubt. I don’t know what goes on behind closed doors and, although ZOG is willing to let the UR expose the lies about WWII, the JFK coup d’etat and even the 9/11 False Flag, telling the full extent of the truth about the mass cull of humanity through the Covid Psyop, is ONE BRIDGE TOO FAR.

    I would not be surprised if Ron has received threats/intimidation directed both at himself and his loved ones to STFU about the Covid vaxxes and to toe the official ZOG line.
    So, despite the name calling I (and many others here in UR) have been subjected to by Ron, I harbour no ill will to this man.

    • Replies: @H. L. M
    , @Anon
    , @Ron Unz
  995. @Truth Vigilante

    Our NeverTrumper Truth ‘”the Fed” Vigilante wrote to me:

    FFS, by [Dave’s] own admission, he conceded that he worked for the CIA in the past. Can it be any more obvious how compromised this sad sack of a man really is?

    Ummmm…. nope.

    I have never worked for the CIA and I have never claimed that I worked for the CIA.

    Can you point to any place where I have claimed that?

    Are you high on something again, little buddy? That junk really isn’t good for you, you know! Fries whatever neurons you have left!

    Our little Fed also wrote:

    Yes UR readers, this is the same Colon Wrong that rarely (if ever) involves himself in those UR threads that deal with the Holohoax…

    I ask you UR readers, other than for the likes of John’s Johnson and Wizard of ZOG, has there ever been a more stupid individual in this webzine than this moron?

    Hey, what about me?

    Am I not even worse than Colin and even John Johnson?

    I’m feelin’ left out!

    Do you grasp that the vast majority of people in the West think the Holocaust really happened?

    Now, perhaps they are mistaken, but agreeing with them certainly does not make Colin an exceptionally stupid person.

    At worst, he is an average stupid person!

    Of course, I too think the Holocaust actually did occur (!), which is why I feel left out in your not having mentioned me.

    You do really seem to think that almost everyone shares your very eccentric views on everything from 911 to the Holocaust.

    Do you really not grasp that your views differ from the majority of people in the West?

    This is a big part of what intrigues me about you and your fellow 911 Truthers. I’ve known lots and lots of cultists — fundamentalists, Mormons, Scientologists, etc. — but all of them knew that they were in the minority. Those other cultists may have a rather loose grip on reality, but they do retain enough contact with reality to know that most people disagree with them.

    But you guys seem to lack that level of contact with reality: you seem to think that almost everyone really agrees with you and that if someone denies that he agrees with you, he is probably just lying and really does share your views.

    You guys are a real discovery in psychopathology!

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

  996. @Truth Vigilante

    Our little Fed Truth Vigilante wrote to Colin Wright:

    [Colin] He [Ron Unz] will eventually throw you out. And then what?
    You’ll have been silenced, and we’ll all agree you should have been.

    [The Fed]Why am I not suprised that a slavish follower of the edicts of his ‘betters’ in omniscient Big Government would say such a thing?
    Of course Colon Wrong has never been one to admire First Amendment freedom of speech protection rights.

    Ron owns this site.

    Ron pays for it.

    The First Amendment guarantees that Ron can publish — or not publish — whatever he wants on this site.

    You ever heard of private property?

    The First Amendment does not guarantee that Mikey or you or I have any rights at all to post here.

    You might try reading some essays by actual libertarians, such as my old friend Murray Rothbard.

    But I do hope Ron does not throw you off. Your level of psychopathology is truly nonpareil.

  997. @PhysicistDave

    Responding to Colon Wrong, Fizzy-cyst Dovid writes:

    Look at the historical statistics: FDR never managed to end the Depression

    This is one of those ‘alignment of planets’ rare occasions where Fizzy-cyst Dovid gets it exactly right (as he also did with the ‘Churchill and FDR were profoundly evil men’ comment).

    As anyone who has objectively studied economics will tell you, FDR doubled down on Hoover’s big spending Keynesian ways and made what otherwise would have been a short and sharp recession into a prolonged Great Depression – which did not end until AFTER WWII was over.

    The following 6 min video titled ‘The New Deal Was A Failure: Hoover and FDR Prolonged the Great Depression with Big Government’, succinctly explains that everything Colon Wrong was taught in those ZOG controlled public schools about the Great Depression, was completely wrong:

    SUMMARY: Only through ever bigger and more bloated Big Government (funded by the taxpayers, and thus making them even more impoverished in relative terms and more dependent on gubmint largesse), can ZOG utilise government expenditures to fund:

    1) Those endless wars that squander Gentile blood and treasure on behalf of the hegemonic aspirations of the Apartheid Israeli state

    2) The Green New Deal, as countless trillions are flushed down a rat hole subsidising EV’s, manufacturing inefficient solar panels and bird chopping wind turbines etc.

    Naturally, the ZOG controlled public education system in the western world is never going to tell you that Big Government and the ZOG owned Federal Reserve was the culprit for those recessions/Depressions/runaway infaltionary episodes.

    But Colon Wrong is too stupid to work that out in his own.

  998. @Ron Unz

    I just checked and “excess mortality” in heavily-vaxxed America dropped by almost 50% from 2022 and 2023.

    So you ‘checked’, did you Ron ? Checked WHERE?
    Oh, my apologies, I forgot.
    You of course checked your usual ‘reliable’ sources like the CDC and the NYT.

    And they would never manipulate the statistics, would they now?
    After all, the Jewess Rochelle Walensky (Head of the CDC from 2021-2023), assured us that the experimental mRNA toxins were ‘safe and effective’, and she was spot on accurate with that call, wasn’t she?

    As for this statement of yours Ron:

    Israel is one of the most heavily vaxxed countries in the world and I remember a couple of years ago when all the idiotic anti-vaxxers on this website declared that “Israel was doomed” because of all the vaxxing.

    …. is it that much of a stretch to believe that the Apartheid Israeli state were given ‘benign’ batches of the vaxx?
    According to Dr Peter McCullough, over 90% of the serious adverse outcomes and deaths are attributed to around 4.2%** of the vaxx batches.
    Is it that hard to believe that the illegal colonial settler state occupiers of Palestine were administered disproportionately with batches from the benign 95.8% component of the vaxxes that were relatively harmless?

    (**I urge all UR readers to take the time to watch the 2 mins of the video in the link below from 13:00-15:00):

    https://rumble.com/v3hwcgm-dr.-mcculloughs-speech-at-the-european-parliament.html

    Please, if you can, spare 17 mins to watch the whole video. It is SOOOOO important.

    Meanwhile, as incredible as it may seem to someone like me that has put in 1000’s of hours into researching the Covid Psyop, there are some out there who don’t know of Dr Peter McCullough and his WORLD CLASS CREDENTIALS, that make him uniquely qualified (more so that just about anyone on the planet), to be speaking out on the dangers of the Covid vaxx.
    Well, here is a brief summation:

    Professor at Texas A & M College of Medicine, President, Cardiorenal Society of America, Editor-in-Chief, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine, Senior Associate Editor, American Journal of Cardiology and others.

    He has written 46 peer-reviewed publications on COVID-19 and is considered among the world’s EXPERTS on the topic, testifying in the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs in November 2020, and throughout 2021 in the Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, in the Colorado General Assembly, and in the New Hampshire Senate, concerning many aspects of the pandemic response.

    He’s an epidemiologist and in those fields he specialises in (Cardio/Renal), he is the most published medical professional in the world, in HISTORY.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Wild Man
    , @Wild Man
  999. @niceland

    niceland wrote to me:

    [Dave]Truth Vigilante truly is psychotic.

    [niceland] Besides the all the lies about his opponents. Obvious lies about things he couldn’t possibly know. He basically goes way over the proverbial far fetched reasonable top on all issues and wreaks havoc on the discussion. Be it Covid, 911, Zionist, history and so on. It’s interesting how hostile he is to ambiguity.

    If the ‘ZOG’ is real – it couldn’t ask for a better friend in the discussion here.

    Yeah. One very real possibility is that he really is a bought-and-paid-for agent of the US Deep State.

    I think the saner people here tend to discount that possibility, but anyone who followed Deep State actions over the last sixty years– from COINTELPRO to the fake Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping case — knows it really does happen.

    This is not some crazy undocumented speculation. It is just established fact, based on public information going back well over forty years and continuing to the present.

    The other possibility is that, while Truth Vigilante is clearly serving the objective interests of the Deep State, he really is so crazy he does not know it.

    Can he really not see that, in claiming that I have falsified data, he is obviously making claims for which everyone knows he cannot actually have any evidence? Can he really not see that everyone knows he is lying?

    A bit over thirty years ago, I was friendly with a guy who would tell these very involved stories that started out sounding plausible but that then spiraled into utter insanity, things such as that most of the US GDP was under the direct control of the CIA. Through him, I got to know one of his own long-time friends, who told me that Jim had been doing this since high school, and that it really worried Jim’s family and friends, but they did not know how to deal with it.

    I knew Jim well enough that I think he really believed it: I think he lacked the ability to distinguish between reality and his own fantasies. He was quite a bright guy — a self-taught computer programmer with a successful career who could converse intelligently about economics, politics, etc. Until he launched into one of his flights of fantasy.

    Truth Vigilante is not as bright as Jim was, but he does remind me of Jim: I suspect that Truth Vigilante truly does not know when his lies and fantasies become so obvious that any sane person can see them for what they are.

    Sad in a way — too bad we can’t help him. I sincerely wonder how this impacts his life in the real world — it is hard to imagine any woman putting up with this.

    My friend Jim, needless to say, was divorced and had a rather bizarre encounter with police — when pulled over, he refused to open the window and identify himself and, at least according to Jim, the cops then got one of those “jaws of life” machines to pull his car door off! (No, I don’t know if this really happened or was one of Jim’s fantasies.)

    A bit of googling turns up official records that now seem to show that Jim is currently a convicted sex offender.

    Like Truth Vigilante, Jim claimed to be a Libertarian.

    But I swear that I have known a number of libertarians who are quite sane!

    Truth Vigilante is at least good for a laugh. But if, as I suspect, he is very much like my old friend Jim… well, it is very sad.

    • Agree: niceland
  1000. @Truth Vigilante

    @ Mr Nicelamb ….

    I managed to track down this asinine comment from Mr Nicelamb which he posted during the height of the Covid Psyop (yet another example of his lockstep alignment with the perpetrators of the fake ‘Pandemic’, that smeared the public health policies of every country that didn’t impose tyrannical lockdowns and force their citizens to engage in Socialist Distancing/hibernation in their basements):

    The Swedish way was a step in this direction but very flawed and failed.

    Well UR readers, I can’t help myself. Mr Nicelamb posts so many obvious untruths that, despite the mauling I’ve handed out to him recently, I believe an encore is merited.
    Here it goes (taken from a Tom Woods Phd newsletter in 2022):

    Washington Monthly is typically described as a “centre-left” publication, and that’s what makes its just-published article on Sweden’s experience all the more significant.

    An excerpt:

    Sweden seems to have been right. Countries that took the severe route to stem the virus might want to look at the evidence found in a little-known 2021 report by the Kaiser Family Foundation. The researchers found that among 11 wealthy peer nations, Sweden was the only one with no excess mortality among individuals under 75. None, zero, zip.

    That’s not to say that Sweden had no deaths from COVID. It did. But it appears to have avoided the collateral damage that lockdowns wreaked in other countries. The Kaiser study wisely looked at excess mortality, rather than the more commonly used metric of COVID deaths….

    There is particular value in looking at excess mortality as the principal metric, as the article explains:

    Excess mortality is the smart, objective standard. It includes all deaths, whether from COVID, the indirect effects of COVID (such as people avoiding the hospital during a heart attack), or the side effects of lockdowns. And it gets rid of the problem of underlying differences among countries, allowing a direct comparison of their performance during COVID.

    Using data from the Human Mortality Database, a joint project of the CDC and the Max Planck Institute in Germany, Kaiser compared mortality during the five years before the pandemic and mortality in 2020, the first year of the pandemic. Sweden had zero excess mortality in 2020 among people younger than 75. In other words, COVID wasn’t all that dangerous to young people.

    Even among the elderly, Sweden’s excess mortality in 2020 was lower than that in the U.S., Belgium, Switzerland, the U.K., the Netherlands, Austria, and France.
    Canada, Germany, and Australia had lower rates than Sweden among people over the age of 70—probably because Sweden failed to limit nursing home visits at the very beginning of the pandemic.
    The Kaiser study is far from alone in reaching these results:

    The Kaiser results might seem surprising, but other data have confirmed them.

    As of February, Our World in Data, a database maintained by the University of Oxford, shows that Sweden continues to have low excess mortality, now slightly lower than Germany, which had strict lockdowns. Another study found no increased mortality in Sweden in those under 70.
    Most recently, a Swedish commission evaluating the country’s pandemic response determined that although it was slow to protect the elderly and others at heightened risk from COVID in the initial stages, its laissez-faire approach was broadly correct.

    The authors end the article by noting that although lockdowns are unlikely to return, masks certainly could, but that there’s little evidence masks do anything.

    SUMMARY: Contrary to what Mr Nicelamb says, Sweden’s response to Covid was amongst the best in the world.
    Yet further proof that Nicelamb deliberately lies or is just an ignorant fool.

  1001. @Chebyshev

    Chebyshev wrote to Colin Wright:

    From what I’ve read here, the planes didn’t make the buildings fall down.

    Just maybe you need to be a wee bit skeptical about “what [you]’ve read here”!

    Some of the more outspoken posters here are proven, psychotic liars — take “Truth Vigilante.” Please!

    Do you think that just maybe you should apply the same degree of skepticism that you have towards official reports (and, yes, government officials do indeed often lie) also to claims made by anonymous commenters on the Web who have no professional expertise at all in the subject under discussion?

    Just maybe?

    I find it quite fascinating that people who are skeptical towards the claims of proven experts in some STEM field nonetheless swallow uncritically various fairy tales about planes that were really holograms, nuclear explosions without significant nuclear radiation, and all the rest.

    ‘Tis indeed a wonder to behold!

    • Replies: @Chebyshev
  1002. @geokat62

    Obviously there is a huge difference between a 30% rise in excess mortality (likely a nothingburger) and overall mortality (which would be a gigantic crisis).

    Fallacious and/or exaggerated antivax arguments serve the interests of the vax industry. They create the impression that the pro-vax side has won the argument just by debunking an idiotic claim.

    The real argument should be: Are vaccines as safe and effective as their proponents say? Proponents claim the mRNA concoctions offer an immediate 90% drop in COVID mortality, which slowly diminishes to 70%. If that were true, and COVID mortality what they say it is, it would be easy to demonstrate that the vaccines work by doing very simple vaxxed-unvaxxed studies on relative mortality, using easily available medical records. Yet as is the case with other vaccines, those holding the data refuse to do the studies that would decisively resolve the issue. As it stands, the available evidence points the other way, toward a vastly worse risk-benefit profile than the vax industry claimed…maybe even an overall negative profile. That’s a gigantic scandal. But hardly anyone notices, because swarms of loud anti-vaxxers are running around making preposterous, easily-debunked claims, creating the deceptive appearance that the pro-vaxxers are winning the argument.

  1003. @Ron Unz

    His [that of Prof. John Ioannidis] prediction of 10,000 total Covid deaths in America was very widely publicized all around the media and the Internet.

    So whereas my timing was very far off, I certainly got the ultimate number correct. Meanwhile, Ioannidis was off by well over 10,000%

    Well …. NO …. actually.

    Because we KNOW FOR CERTAIN that the reported deaths from Covid in the U.S were INSANELY EXAGGERATED.
    Take this following article titled ‘Man who died in motorcycle crash counted as COVID-19 death in Florida: Report’:

    https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report

    What about this article below titled ‘WASHINGTON HEALTH OFFICIALS: GUNSHOT VICTIMS COUNTED AS COVID-19 DEATHS’:

    https://www.freedomfoundation.com/washington/washington-health-officials-gunshot-victims-counted-as-covid-19-deaths/

    We know that individuals died from other comorbidities, but because they were reported as having been Covid positive in the previous month or so (due to the PCR tests run at cycle thresholds of 35-40, which yielded 97% false positives), they were FALSELY counted as Covid deaths.

    A judge in Portugal wanted to determine the VERIFIED deaths from Covid only, as opposed to what was claimed to be a Covid death.
    UR readers should read the article below titled ‘Court rules only 152 died of COVID-19 in Portugal, not 17,000’:

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-02-portuguese-court-rules-152-died-covid.html

    That’s right UR readers, in Portugal the numbers were REVISED DOWN BY MORE THAN 99% !!!
    Italy did likewise and MASSIVELY REVISED DOWN the original Covid death tally.

    SUMMARY: Dr John Ioannides was far closer in his estimates than you were Ron.
    Ioannides distinguished himself during the Covid Psyop and his standing has only been further enhanced in light of what has transpired in the interim.

    Ioannides is a champion of man and his integrity is of the highest calibre.

  1004. Wild Man says:
    @Ron Unz

    From the link, geokat62 provided, that you featured as bogus because of ‘terminology’:

    “Excess mortality in the EU climbed to +16% in July 2022 from +7% in both June and May. This was the highest value on record so far in 2022, amounting to around 53 000 additional deaths in July this year compared with the monthly averages for 2016-2019.”

    And you tell dude (geokat62);

    “If you can’t understand the difference between what you believed and were claiming and the actual underlying facts, you’re even more hopeless than I imagined.”

    Wtf? Ron? It is defined, in the first sentence of the link, that this mathematical artifact being measured, whatever fucking terminology you may want to apply to it, is a comparison to the monthly averages of 2016-2019. Maybe a wave of migrants with dissimilar life expectancies than the European host cohorts all of a sudden had effects on all-cause mortality, leading to an excess, for the period in question (I highly doubt it is that, though). But the point being, there is still room to argue over the prime cause of this excess mortality phenomenon in Europe. But then instead you choose to argue that we are being bamboozled by terminology? No, …. it appears here, it is you that is attempting to bamboozle by twisting terminology. Why would you do that?

  1005. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    I suspect governments were revelling in the opportunities for heightened surveillance and control. I resisted the jab for about a year but it was making travel impossible if I didn’t have proof of it. Then I encountered a Bulgarian who boasted he had never had the jab when I mentioned I had it. Probably life was a little less constrained in his part of the Balkans, or he did not need to travel much.
    One thing that struck me was how Greece (where I lived for a time) was praised for the strictness of anti-Covid measures. Yet per capita deaths there ended up worse than the UK’s, last time I looked at the statistics, though the UK did not pull stunts like require you to notify the police that you were going to the supermarket to buy food.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1006. Wielgus says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Rochdale_by-election

    George Galloway won the Rochdale by-election in England with nearly 40% of the vote. In a constituency with a large Muslim population, he successfully exploited Labour disarray and revulsion caused by Establishment support for Zionist crimes in Gaza.

  1007. Wild Man says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    “Obviously there is a huge difference between a 30% rise in excess mortality (likely a nothingburger) and overall mortality (which would be a gigantic crisis).”

    I think you may be knee-jerking to an unwarranted defense of Unz here (something you have done, quite a bit, on occasion, in the past). See my comment #1025. Am I wrong in comment #1025? Maybe something is going over my head re the mortality terminology? (don’t think so).

  1008. Slimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Regarding this article:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/confronting-the-cowardice-of-the-far-right-on-race/?showcomments#comments

    Gang violence in Black neighborhoods stretches at least as far back as the 1920s. Issues like police brutality, hate crimes and race riot have persisted even longer, since the 1800s. Nevertheless, America retained its status as a 1st world country for as long as blacks and native americans were a small minority.

    With a Hispanic majority, the country could still be fairly prosperous but the overall quality of life would suffer substantially. All the aforementioned issues + many, many more. Hispanics lock arms with White Nationalists not to gang up on blacks, but to limit their own numbers in the U.S. You’ve been repeating this false notion for years that American White Nationalism is really about sticking it to blacks, without taking into account that historically blacks were the only group large enough to be the object of anyone’s contempt, and they themselves only support immigration because it diverts some of the attention away from them.

  1009. H. L. M says:
    @Ron Unz

    I have reread Ron’s covid posts thinking I have missed something.

    And I just can’t get over it: Ron actually believes the official story of covid — a “novel” virus killed many people and the “vax” was safe and effective.

    LOL

  1010. geokat62 says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Obviously there is a huge difference between a 30% rise in excess mortality (likely a nothingburger)…

    A 30% spike in monthly excess mortality is a nothingburger? Really?

    Let’s do a little math, on the basis of the information contained in the following article.

    Excerpt from According to Eurostat, the excess mortality rate has hit +16%, the highest 2022 value so far, with Malta being in the 7th place with +26.4%!:

    Eurostat has now published the excess mortality in the European member states, which has climbed to +16% in July 2022 from +7% in both June and May. This was the highest value on record so far in 2022, amounting to around 53,000 additional deaths in July this year compared with the monthly averages for 2016-2019.

    https://simonmercieca.com/2022/09/27/according-to-eurostat-the-excess-mortality-rate-has-hit-16-the-highest-2022-value-so-far-with-malta-being-in-the-7th-place-with-26-4/

    So, a 16% monthly increase in excess mortality translates into 53,000 additional deaths in one month. If we were to double that figure to approximate the 30% increase you called “likely a nothingburger,” we arrive at 106,000 excess deaths in one month. If we multiply that by 12 to arrive at an annual value, we’d get approx. 1.3M additional deaths. You still think that’s “likely a nothingburger?”

    In a recent study by Denis Rancourt et al, the global death rate due to the experimental mRNA gene therapy injections was estimated to be 17 million people. Do you consider this death rate to also be “likely a nothingburger?”

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  1011. H. L. M says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I agree with your “ONE BRIDGE TOO FAR” assessment in full.

    There is no other rational explanation for it.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  1012. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Dr. Roger Hodkinson:

    🚨 UK Slashes Excess Death Estimates After Announcing New Calculation Scheme

    “If you can control the information, of course you control the narrative.” — John Campbell, Ph.D @DrJohnCampbell.

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  1013. Wild Man says:
    @geokat62

    I think what happened is that Kevin Barrett being an intelligent guy, who also assumes Unz is not in the bamboozling-business, therefore assumed that Unz was in fact making a valid point of logic about the mortality terminology, because Kevin it seems, therefore thought (without checking), like I first thought (but then I checked), that Unz must have been referencing some talking heads starting to talk in some new arcane way, now using some weird measurement-mode of logarithmic scale, to talk about mortality in excess of what is expected (like a ‘smaller than one % increase’ onto top of an earlier ‘smaller than one percentage increase’), …. which would therefore tend to be a de-exponentializing measure that is much less worse than it at first seems (as such Barett’s ‘nothingburger’ attribution).

    What Unz did there (in comment #1011) is bizarre (unless something is going over my head, as per my comment #1025). If I am not missing something, then I hope Barrett finally sees, by this time, he should be more careful before chiming in on an Unz claim (Unz appears to be attempting to operate a very crude definitional shell game here, … pretending the reported excess mortality values [albeit crudely measured on a month-over-month-by-year basis by national jurisdiction vs. 2016-2019 baseline], means something different than what these values clearly where stated to mean).

  1014. @Kevin Barrett

    But hardly anyone notices, because swarms of loud anti-vaxxers are running around making preposterous, easily-debunked claims, creating the deceptive appearance that the pro-vaxxers are winning the argument.

    Among those thay have objectively approached the Covid Psyop, the appearance is actually one of the pro-vaxxers getting one almighty shellacking (ie: the opposite of your contention Kevin).

    Admittedly, seeing as the majority of lemmings that took the vaxx are the same subset of apathetic individuals that are TOO LAZY to do any in depth research into the Covid Psyop (and bear in mind these are often the same fools that believe there were gas chambers in those German work camps during WWII and that the Judeo-Ukrainian regime are the good guys in the proxy war with Russia), it is of no consequence what the majority of the brain dead citizenry think.
    They will continue with their foolish ways sourcing their info from CNN and Rachel Maddow, so they are a lost cause.

    But, in relation to the obviously preposterous Covid ‘data’ that is swirling around, you’ve been around long enough to know that, just as with the JFK coup d’etat and the 9/11 False Flag, so too does ZOG have much to lose if it were ever exposed to the bulk of the unthinking masses that they perpetrated the Covid Psyop and mass cull of humanity through the toxic clot shots.
    You Kevin, better than anyone, will be aware that ZOG central is responsible for putting out much of that preposterous data to discredit the truthers.

    Fortunately, many of us are pretty good at separating the wheat from the chaff, and that’s why rely on data supplied by the likes of Dr Peter McCullough, Pierre Kory, Robert Malone and the always NOT-prone-to-hyperbole Dr John Campbell, whose videos have been posted in this thread.

    These are individuals of unimpeachable integrity. It is interesting how Ron Unz doesn’t dare challenge anything Peter McCullough has ever said, yet he mocks the ‘anti-vaxxers’ that are saying pretty much THE SAME THING as McCullough.

    So Ron Unz, if you’re reading this, just name me ONE THING that Peter McCullough said in the video of his that I posted in comment # 1019 (speech at the European parliament), that is incorrect?

  1015. @PhysicistDave

    This is a non-sequitur.

    ‘…That number only increased as Britain continued its standoff with the Germans; by April 1941 polls showed that 68% of Americans favored war against the Axis powers if that was the only way to defeat them.

    Yes, it was changing in 1941, after intense propaganda from Roosevelt and the Eastern Establishment. But there was definitely no consensus for war until after the attack on Pearl…’

    You try to twist this to say something else, but it doesn’t. It says that two-thirds of Americans were already willing to go to war by April 1941 — and things got worse over that summer and fall. Germany decidedly had not already been defeated by April 1941. In fact, she was about to embark on another series of spectacular victories.

    Certainly Pearl Harbor made things easier for Roosevelt; it silenced the dissenting minority. However, your own figures imply a popular consensus — not just an elite one — for war had already been reached before that event.

  1016. @Wielgus

    ‘One thing that struck me was how Greece (where I lived for a time) was praised for the strictness of anti-Covid measures. Yet per capita deaths there ended up worse than the UK’s, last time I looked at the statistics, though the UK did not pull stunts like require you to notify the police that you were going to the supermarket to buy food.’

    The problem there was that so much of the variation in ‘Covid deaths’ were a function of what was considered a ‘Covid death.’ Sure: if a third of the population is testing positive for the virus, a third of your death will test positive for it as well. So?

    That’s one extreme. The other would be to demand that nothing at all be wrong with the victim other than Covid before it be counted. But what about if we’ve got a fat old lady with diabetes, and she catches Covid and dies? She could easily have lived another ten years absent the disease. Do we score her for Covid? Or for diabetes? Or for obesity? Or for old age? At what point does a contributing factor become the cause of death?

    So I suspect much of the apparent variation was simply a function of varying accounting practices.

  1017. @geokat62

    ‘…Niceland has already acknowledged the jabs aren’t effective, we’re all patiently awaiting for you to acknowledge they aren’t safe.’

    Speaking for myself, I tend to proceed on a ‘need to know’ basis.

    I know I’m healthy enough that the Covid wouldn’t kill me. I also know I’ve heard way too many anecdotal horror stories — both in person and on the internet — about the vaccine to care to try it. Hell, my neighbor’s leukemia was in remission; had been for at least five years. He took the vaccine — and bingo. It started right back up again.

    That’s all I need to know. Since you can’t make me take it, I won’t. The Corona won’t kill me. God knows what the vaccine might do.

  1018. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Dr. Roger Hodkinson:

    Here’s What REALLY Happened With the COVID Vaccine

    🇺🇸💉Did the Pentagon orchestrate the COVID-19 pandemic?

    Investigative journalist and former pharma executive Sasha Latypova appeared on Redacted this week to speak with Clayton Morris about new leaked audio which shows the U.S. Department of Defense labeled COVID-19 a national security threat weeks before we knew about it.

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  1019. Wild Man says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Thank-you for the reply, Dave. Sorry I took so long to respond (gotta think alot when tangling with you, it seems, …. and I am retired and in the mode of just liking to enjoy my activities, so I waited until I am again in the mood, to weigh-in again on the deeper stuff). Getting to the bottom of people’s root worldview, inclusive of their take on their certainties around these worldviews, is a very good exercise, I think, towards fostering better communication all-round.

    On this your passage:

    “I just do not know the connection between the physical wold and consciousness, nor do I think anyone else (yet) knows.”

    I think that does put you in the dualist camp, of sorts, nevertheless, because dualism per se, is illogical, and so, if you take the stance that indeed it is likely that this illogic does indeed reign, that is tantamount to a massive discount of the primacy of the contents of reality (space/time/matter/energy) as modern physics envisions, … and you are also a modern-day physicist,… and so the question begged is: ‘Do you study ‘reality’ or not (either by proxy or not), in that vein?’. I would assume you answer that question in the affirmative (otherwise, what exactly do you think you are doing then, within your physics career?). If modern day physics is in the business of studying reality (even by proxy …. so-called physical impressions upon consciousness, let’s say), and you admit it likely it may not ever actually rise to that level of hubris (the hubris of insisting it is the study of actual reality, either by proxy or not), …. well: Dualist it is then – how else to see it? (well, … there is one other way to see it, .. and that would be a ‘temporary dualist in waiting’, …. waiting for the monism he knows, by logic, must prevail, once the true source of ‘reality’ is found, which it is expected will completely discount his career-notions around reality).

    OK, …. reading on, within your comment, I find the link, and read said link you provided (by 1963 Nobel laureate Eugene Wigner):

    “It may be premature to believe that the present philosophy of quantum mechanics will remain a permanent feature of future physical theories; it will remain remarkable, in whatever way our future concepts may develop, that the very study of the external world led to the conclusion that the content of the consciousness is an ultimate reality.”

    OK, it seems, at least some modern day physicists tend to claim the ‘temporary dualist in waiting’ thing, … waiting for their gig to be usurped by those that really do study ‘reality’ instead of just a mirage of that, let’s say. Maybe that is your view you, too? It seems probably so.

    On this your further passage:

    “As to whether this contradicts my being an atheist…

    Well, an atheist is someone who thinks that no god exists. I think that no god exists.

    That makes me an atheist.

    I think you may be interpreting the word “atheist” in a broader sense — e.g., to make it equivalent to naive materialist.

    That is not what the word usually means.

    The word “atheist,” as used by most self-proclaimed atheists, also does not mean “I have a dogmatic, unshakable faith that no god exists!” It would indeed be odd for atheists to substitute an atheist dogma for religious dogmas!

    Even the outspoken atheist Richard Dawkins has stated that he agrees that it possible that some sort of god exists. He merely thinks it is unlikely.”

    Your phrase – “The word “atheist,” as used by most self-proclaimed atheists, also does not mean “I have a dogmatic, unshakable faith that no god exists!”” Interesting way of putting it. Because what you just said there is the agnostic perspective (and not the atheistic perspective):

    https://www.dictionary.com/e/atheism-agnosticism/

    Why would you claim an agnostic perspective though, (but it is impossible to be certain on this topic, I would agree), assuming that yours, instead then, is a physicalist perspective, because you claim you definitely are not a naive materialist kind of atheist, it seems, and so, one would then assume you mean to claim the more nuanced version of naive materialist perspective … which is physicalism … the notion that the abstract physical laws are what is paramount, and inherent to basic reality … wouldn’t you be claiming more than you should, certainty-wise, by way of the agnostic perspective, then? Or perhaps I should not assume you take the physicalist perspective? If so, then what is the philo-scientific name of your perspective?

    Now, more to point: On this further passage of your comment:

    “But is it possible that some sort of god exists? I doubt it — the evidence is against it.”

    What evidence? Modern day physics does not know if reality is truly finite or instead limitless. If it is limitless there really is not going to be a way for you to credibly argue against the agnostic stance (the agnostic stance is that it is impossible to know about the true nature of God or ultimate reality).

    So to me, … by way of the comments of yours here, … it seems you are an agnostic that has chosen to sit on the fence around that (agnostic about your own agnosticism), … and so, I don’t get it (what your root beliefs about reality actually are, then).

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  1020. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    But does he have an IQ of 210 like Ronnie? If not, we don’t care who he is, what he accomplished, or anything else about him. He’s a zero compared to our godling Runz.

  1021. Wild Man says:
    @Anon

    Further to my first reply comment (# 1,001), .. in which I offered this:

    What I am getting at, is that my wild speculation is that a transhumanist life-extension agenda is clandestinely, afoot. A wild speculation, .. it’s true, …. but less wild than Unz’s.

    , …. this is what I mean:

    The speculative takeaway: Mmmm: Bats => unnaturally long lives => experimentation on that trait on humans around lab-fine-tuned, but bat-provenanced, sars-cov-2 => global (especially in the west) experimental mRNA interventions => elitist faux-west globalist life-extension aspirations, still at the non-performing skunk-works phase, but requiring a much huger data set

    A wild speculation, that is an internally consistent speculation, nevertheless (unlike other’s such wild speculations, … such as Unz’s … he wants to see the vaccinology community in a different light than the facts show us, …. the vaxx intervention didn’t work, … so what was all the officious vaxx-lying and misdirection all about, then?, …. my wild speculation does not suffer from such internal inconsistency, however, it should be noted).

    Imagine the globalist billionaire money power that may well possibly be attached to near-term radical life-extension aspirations. If there truly is a promising pathway to such near-term eventuality, …. you can bet on it, …. as a sure bet, I would say, that there would therefore be such clandestine globalist research activity therefore occurring. The key point here, …. is there truly a promising pathway to such near-term eventuality, or not?, ….. maybe Unz will bark up that tree, in many many years time, by way of his Historical Revisionist approach. Why not now? Because Unz can’t yet, with said method, …. because there is not many bean-spillers, around, as of yet, perhaps (meaning the covert-radical-life-extenders would be confident that they will succeed in the end, I think, if there truly is something to what I am suggesting). If there is no bean-spillers, then there is nothing to read, and then a Historical Revisionist practitioner cannot yet operate their method.

    We need to open our minds. Things are not as they seem (obviously, … this whole site makes that point many times a day).

  1022. Anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I’m not nearly as forgiving as you. I expect a lot from a godling with an IQ of 210. If he isn’t for us and is actually a plant by our enemies, then he is truly dangerous.

    I grew up in Palo Alto (Tall Tree in Español). It is teeming with Jews and Israelis associated with SatanRodef (Sanford and Sons Univ) and Silicon Implants Valley. If Ronnie truly was vexing to them, they would easily be able to get to him.

    In actuality I believe they DO get to him, on a regular basis. Unz means US in German/Yiddish. We think it means Ronnie is working for US on OUR behalf. But back in Herzliyah Mossad HQ they probably are chuckling, saying: Nu, the dumb goyim think Ron Unz is for them, but really he’s working for US [U$rAel]

    I think Ron might be an Autistic Savant. He certainly is a genius. Had he been raised in Orthodox Judaism he would be perhaps the foremost rabbinical scholar of the generation. Their job is to sift through the endless commentaries of the last 2000 years, evaluate them, and then tweak them for contemporary times. Ron would have been right at the top of that rabbinical dung-heap. I don’t think he would have been a posek of Jewish law, however, because like most Autistics, he lacks warmth and the ability to relate to others in a healthy manner. He’s the perfect IQ-Golem for ZOG:
    https://www.goldencaretherapy.com/geniuses-with-autism/

    So in that sense perhaps he cannot be blamed for his lack of honesty and other desirable human qualities. But we need to bear in mind that he likely is working stealthily for the enemy. His job, I believe, is to keep anti-Jewish sentiment on a steady moderate simmer and to keep it within strictly defined boundaries. For as we all know, by now, anti-Semitism is the life blood of the fake anti-Christ Jewish State.

    I cannot prove any of this, of course. But it’s the only sensible explanation for his overall approach of questioning the Holocaust, lambasting Israel, but apologizing endlessly for the Big Pharma Covaxx gig run by Jews and Israelis.

    Caveat Emptor.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  1023. Chebyshev says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Just maybe you need to be a wee bit skeptical about “what [you]’ve read here”!

    Explosives were clearly set up inside Building 7. I don’t see why the Jewish plotters would’ve set up a bunch of explosives in Building 7 but not in the main towers. They had to have thought that the destruction of the main towers would’ve been sufficient for them to achieve their goal of starting the War on Terror. The potential scenario where the planes miss the main towers but Building 7 is demolished would’ve been inexplicable. Would it have even been a plausible story that Islamist terrorists got inside the basement of Building 7 and brought in explosives with no one in security noticing?

    I suppose the explosives installed inside the main towers could’ve been redundant due to the planes – I don’t know anything about how the destruction of buildings exactly works.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  1024. Wild Man says:
    @Anon

    Another point further to my first reply comment (# 1,001), .. in which I offered this:

    …. there is a huge mostly unexamined ‘CCP-behavior’ angle that has been mostly ignored, as well, for instance, ….. who really knows what is what, at this stage

    , …. see this along those lines:

    https://thecountersignal.com/secret-documents-reveal-trudeau-government-virologists-had-clandestine-relationship-with-chinese-agents/

    This is an old (well-known already) peripheral story (CCP theft of differing infective agents from western bio-lab). There really is some vexing issues around CCP behavior (and Canadian behavior, for that matter) that no one has credibly gotten to the bottom of yet, as far as I know (as well, more such vexing behavior around CCP’s non-response to what looks like their involvement in terms of covid patsy-ship, as I already outlined, alot here in prior comments, a long long time ago now).

    If I recall correctly (many years since I read him some) Stephen Hsu (Unz’s brilliant friend) seems to think that elitists in China are way ahead on the trans-humanist technologies (maybe he was talking about their ‘smart babies’ efforts, at the time, if I am now recalling correctly), probably much of it clandestine. Mmmmm?

  1025. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68445973

    Translation: the BBC is afraid to come right out and say Israel is fucking lying.

    But they make it perfectly clear they are.

    Of course. Has Israel told the truth about anything from October 7th on? Their mendacity has been amazing.

  1026. Wild Man says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    McCullough mentioned the blood clots in that speech (at 10:10). These weird white blood clots the embalmers are finding, I guess, he is referencing (except McCullough and his fellow clinicians are finding that type of thing in living patients?). So, it seems the clinical-medical community has actually taken an interest in all this recent (since covid but especially since vaxxing) weirdness around this strange white rubbery material (never seen before) being pulled out of cadaver arteries even, … but what about the medical pathologists? They should have been the first that got very excited by this weird shit coming out of the arteries even (and not just veins) of cadavers. Is that white rubbery shit comprised of materiel including some sort of vaxx-spike-substrate, like McCullough claims is occurring in his living patients?

    Crazy. It’s just the craziest thing. Why hasn’t a full stop been executed around this vaxxo-bunk, yet, as just based on the clinical findings? Or, alternatively, why hasn’t all this weirdness around white rubbery material coming out of even the arteries of cadavers, been fully tested, and if vaxx-spike found, …… go full medical remedial action now (stop all vaxxing and look for ways to clear the spike), you would think, would be the message coming down upon us from on high, … or alternatively if vaxx-spike not found in that white rubbery arterial material emanating from cadavers, …. then what the heck is this new strange vascular phenomenon that certainly seems able to produce enough vascular trauma to cause death?

    I do not understand the silence of the medical-pathology community, given what quite a few experienced (and seemingly credible) embalmers have been revealing for years now. Why haven’t we at least seen a debunking of the embalmer claims, then? Weird. Very very weird.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  1027. Wild Man says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Here is McCullough speaking just recently:

    Riddle me this: What would be more coveted? A weapon to kill others, or a tool to live much longer? A lot of well-placed people are coveting this vaxxo-enigma scene for some reason (we can tell by way of the obscurantist narrative, … the takeaway is that it is an important endeavor for them, this). What is more important, ….a weapon to kill others, or a tool to live much longer? Maybe it’s both. Perhaps the faux-west globalist vision is this: The peons are expendable in the long run, still needed in the medium run, and so the best strategy would be to use the peons as guinea pigs to form elitist technologies ‘to live much longer’, in the medium term, whilst we peons are otherwise still needed prior to the full advent of AI and such, at which time we definitely must die-off, if radical life extension indeed does become a reality for the select.

    It seems the vaxxo-shite phenomenon meets both those potential globalist goals according to said speculative timelines (unless we force them to stand down on all this now).

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  1028. @Anon

    What you’ve posted is certainly food for thought, which I’ll be taking on board.

    Thank you my friend. Your contributions in UR, over a long period of time, have consistently been invaluable.

  1029. Mark G. says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    The push for vaccine mandates came largely from the idea that the vaccines would prevent transmission rather than that they would reduce death rates. It was the mandates that turned what should have been a medical question into a political issue. The large number of vaccinated individuals who eventually got the disease put the brakes on the mandate movement.

    The quarrels about vaccine effectiveness distracted people from the more important issue of government coercion during the epidemic. During the epidemic, in addition to the vaccine mandates, you had government enforced lockdowns, mask wearing and treatment methods. Like the vaccine mandates being based on faulty beliefs, most of these other forms of coercion were also based on faulty beliefs.

    Underlying all this were government attempts to prevent all sides from being heard. This took the form of overt censorship and also behind the scenes government efforts to pressure private companies like Twitter to silence anyone going against the official government narrative.

  1030. @Wild Man

    Why hasn’t a full stop been executed around this vaxxo-bunk, yet, as just based on the clinical findings?
    I do not understand the silence of the medical-pathology community …

    Really Mr Wild Fellow, you don’t understand how ZOG is frantically trying to prevent, using their immense financial and political clout, the dissemination of data that would emphatically demonstrate that they’re guilty of mass murder?

    ZOG orchestrated the Covid Psyop and the mass cull/sterilisation of the masses through the mRNA clot shots. They control the Health bureaucracies in the western world and control the narrative.
    Doctors/pathologists that speak out face severe repercussions in most jurisdictions. eg: deregistration/loss of licence to practise medicine and career destruction.

    Of course there are pockets of free speech like the state of Texas (where Dr Peter McCullough resides), like Florida (the Surgeon General of that state, Dr Joseph Ladapo, has called for a cessation in the administering of the Covid vaccines ), so some courageous physicians are still capable of getting the truth out.
    Have a look at this 2 min video titled ‘Florida Surgeon General calls for halt to COVID-19 vaccine, citing possible cancer risks’:

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  1031. @Chebyshev

    Chebyshev wrote to me:

    [Dave] Just maybe you need to be a wee bit skeptical about “what [you]’ve read here”!

    [Cheb] Explosives were clearly set up inside Building 7.

    Well… it is very nice that it is clear to you.

    It is not clear to me.

    One thing I have noticed in this discussion is that the less that people know about the relevant areas of STEM, the more certain they are of their opinions.

    Come to think of it, maybe that is true of people in general.

    Cheb also wrote:

    I suppose the explosives installed inside the main towers could’ve been redundant due to the planes – I don’t know anything about how the destruction of buildings exactly works.

    Which is my point — all of the conspiracy theorists here in fact “don’t know anything about how the destruction of buildings exactly works.”

    And, indeed, almost no architects know that, either: I have had several architects in my extended family, and architects are simply guys who obey the building codes and trust the structural engineers that the building is structurally sound.

    And I have also known some structural engineers: by and large, they are just guys who plug the proposed structure into software and trust the results.

    Most structural engineers are not guys who focus on modes of building collapse.

    That is why I do not take AE911Truth seriously: almost none of those guys are experts on structural collapse.

    Now, as it happens, an old acquaintance of mine, Professor Hung Leung “David” Wong of the University of Southern California (see here) is an expert on structural stability under earthquakes.. David therefore is interested in modes of building collapse.

    If David told me that one of the 911 Truther theories was probably true, I would take him seriously.

    He hasn’t.

    I also take Zdeněk Bažant seriously, since he too is an expert on building collapse.

    Are you? If you are, tell me your actual name so that I can check out your expertise.

    I am a certified expert on physics — Ph.D. from Stanford, multiple publications and patents, Caltech undergrad degree (I was first in my graduating class in the Division of Math, Physics, and Astronomy with a 4.0 GPA) — most of this can be verified online.

    And based on that very extensive knowledge of physics, I can tell you that the various theories bruited about by 911 Truthers concerning the collapse of the Twin Towers — that the planes were holograms, that it was a nuclear explosion (!), that gravity-driven collapse violates Newton’s Third Law, etc. — are utter and complete nonsense. Just bizarre fantasies that violate very, very basic principles of physics..

    Anyone who legitimately passed high-school physics should be able to see that.

    As to Building 7… well, I got into this discussion when Ron Unz asked me to comment on Mark Gaffney’s bizarre claims about the Twin Tower collapse. I have not noticed as many bizarrely crack-pot theories about Building 7, but, given that the 911 Truther theories about the Twin Towers are obvious nonsense, I am not inclined to take seriously their theories about Building 7.

    “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.” The 911 Truthers have spun so much obvious nonsense about the Twin Towers that they have destroyed their credibility completely on Building 7, Flight 93, etc.

    Completely.

    Now, you say that what happened to Building 7 is “clear” to you?

    So, where did you say you got your Ph.D. in structural engineering?

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1032. @Wild Man

    Wild Man wrote to me:

    I think that does put you in the dualist camp, of sorts, nevertheless, because dualism per se, is illogical, and so, if you take the stance that indeed it is likely that this illogic does indeed reign…

    Well… I do not see why “dualism per se, is illogical…”

    Indeed, it seems to me that it is obviously not illogical.

    It might not be true, but what is illogical about it?

    You know, physicists have all sorts of “dualisms” — there is, for example, the dualism between the fundamental fermions and the fundamental bosons: fermions make up ordinary matter (electrons and quarks); bosons carry the various forces (electromagnetism, the two nuclear forces, etc.) and also give mass to the other fundamental particles via the Higgs boson.

    That is not illogical.

    So, why would matter vs. consciousness dualism be illogical?

    Wild Man also wrote:

    OK, it seems, at least some modern day physicists tend to claim the ‘temporary dualist in waiting’ thing, … waiting for their gig to be usurped by those that really do study ‘reality’ instead of just a mirage of that, let’s say. Maybe that is your view you, too? It seems probably so.

    Who knows?

    We’re doing the best we can, and no one else has in fact been nearly as successful as we natural scientists are at uncovering the nature of reality.

    But we’re not done yet, you know.

    Wild Man also wrote:

    Your phrase – “The word “atheist,” as used by most self-proclaimed atheists, also does not mean “I have a dogmatic, unshakable faith that no god exists!”” Interesting way of putting it. Because what you just said there is the agnostic perspective (and not the atheistic perspective):

    Here is what the source you linked to says:

    There is a key distinction between these terms. An atheist doesn’t believe in the existence of a god or divine being. The word atheist originates with the Greek atheos, which is built from the roots a- (“without”) and theos (“a god”). Atheism is the doctrine or belief that there is no god.

    In contrast, the word agnostic refers to a person who neither believes nor disbelieves in a god or religious doctrine. Agnostics assert that it’s impossible to know how the universe was created and whether or not divine beings exist.

    I do not in fact “believe in the existence of a god or divine being.” That makes me an atheist, according to your source.

    Of course, I acknowledge that I might be mistaken. But nonetheless, I do not in fact “believe in the existence of a god or divine being.” So that clearly makes me an atheist, according to your source.

    I do not in fact think “that it’s impossible to know how the universe was created and whether or not divine beings exist.” I don’t know for sure, but I do not think it is necessarily impossible to know.

    So, according to your source, I am not an agnostic.

    See?

    Wild Man also wrote:

    Why would you claim an agnostic perspective though, (but it is impossible to be certain on this topic, I would agree), assuming that yours, instead then, is a physicalist perspective, because you claim you definitely are not a naive materialist kind of atheist, it seems, and so, one would then assume you mean to claim the more nuanced version of naive materialist perspective … which is physicalism…

    Or perhaps I should not assume you take the physicalist perspective?

    Indeed, you should not assume that.

    Wild Man also asked:

    If so, then what is the philo-scientific name of your perspective?

    Does it need a “philo-scientific name,” whatever that is?

    How about “common sense”?

    I think the real world exists independent of what I wish it to be, and that it is my job as a scientist to try to understand the world as it is.

    Why do I need more of a “worldview” than that?

    Wild Man also asked:

    [WM] Now, more to point: On this further passage of your comment:

    [Dave] “But is it possible that some sort of god exists? I doubt it — the evidence is against it.”

    [WM] What evidence?

    People used to think that a god was needed to explain biological structure. We now know that is not true.

    If God is really an important dude, he should be pretty hard to miss. But no evidence of his existence has turned up.

    Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. (I know the opposite is often claimed, but you can prove using Bayes’ rule that that contrary claim is mistaken.) It is, however, rarely conclusive.

    Wild Man also wrote:

    So to me, … by way of the comments of yours here, … it seems you are an agnostic that has chosen to sit on the fence around that (agnostic about your own agnosticism), … and so, I don’t get it (what your root beliefs about reality actually are, then).

    Why do I need “root beliefs” beyond the belief that the world is what it is, regardless of what I think it is or what I wish it to be?

    And that it is my job as a scientist to make my thoughts conform to the real world rather than delude myself into believing that I must somehow impose my thoughts onto the world?

    You seem to think that I must somehow come at the task of understanding reality with a preconceived notion of what reality must be. Why would I want to do that?

    I am, after all, pretty sure that I am not God!

    So, isn’t it the better part of wisdom to accept that my task is to make my thoughts conform to reality rather than the other way around?

    I know many people do not think that way, and you seem to assume I do not think that way.

    I find that perplexing.

    Why would anyone not try to make their thoughts conform to reality rather than the other way around?

    • Replies: @Wild Man
    , @Wild Man
  1033. ‘…Israeli forces in Gaza destroyed the body of a Palestinian man by running him over either using a tank or a bulldozer, the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor said on Friday.

    The man is believed to have been in Israeli custody at the time or as of recently. It is not clear if he was alive or dead at the time he was run over.

    Images of the body following the incident, which happened on Thursday in the Zeitoun area on the Salah al-Din road near the Star factory south of Gaza City, were shared online by the human rights group and have been reviewed by Middle East Eye.

    They show the victim’s body completely crushed, with no means of identifying him. A zip tie can be seen on the remaining hand, equipment commonly used by Israeli forces in Gaza to detain Palestinians…

    Far-right Israeli Telegram channels have lauded the images of the crushed man…’

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  1034. Ron Unz and you other pro-vaxxers, please take the time to watch the first 6 mins of the following video featuring Dr John Campbell:

    The caption below the video reads:

    Popular British YouTuber and retired nurse instructor Dr. John Campbell recently spoke with Scottish commentator Neil Oliver about the dramatic rise in blood clots being seen by funeral parlors while embalming dead bodies. These clots are unprecedented and have no explanation — at least not one that can be mentioned explicitly in the mainstream media.

    This comment is a follow up from the mention of those ‘white rubbery arterial material emanating from cadavers’ that Wild Man mentioned in a previous post.

    So Ron, I’m curious. What is causing the Never-Before-Seen explosion of white rubbery substance blood clots in people’s bodies just prior to their demise?

    • Replies: @Michael Korn
  1035. @Truth Vigilante

    Hi TV,

    I watched the Peter McCullough speech that you linked above and found it astonishing. It should be headline news across the nation. The man is extremely eloquent, obviously brilliant, and very clear in delineating the dangers of Covaxx:
    https://rumble.com/v3hwcgm-dr.-mcculloughs-speech-at-the-european-parliament.html

    A friend sent me the following article that describes why Big Pharma is interested in marketing the jab since it would accrue to it a lifelong stream of medical injury expenses, that he estimates will be valued at $500 billion, ten times the $50 billion they earned from Covaxx. It’s an astoundingly shocking and horrifying article that I hope you will read. (I won’t ask Ron to read it because he seems to have developed CATS: Covaxx Allergy to Truth Syndrome. Also known as PUSSY):
    https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/the-economic-crisis-we-face

    Please ponder the following conundrum as this article makes clear RFK Jr’s resolute opposition to the dangers of Big Pharma vaccinations gone wild. But at the same time he’s become a shameless supporter of Israel, the most heavily covaxxed country in the world, and whose Jewish and Israeli CEOs are the most complicit in the pharmaceutical abuse of the global human population. How would you explain RFK’s contradictions here? Could it be that his beautiful beach blonde Southern California wife has compromised his integrity in exchange for dirty Jewish money?

    Thank you for your extraordinary patience trying to illuminate this crisis to the rest of us. And as always God bless you, Geokat62, and every other sincere seeker of Truth on this site.

    Respectfully, MK

    • Thanks: geokat62
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  1036. Wild Man says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Yeah, … I get all that. But that white rubbery shit coming out of arteries of cadavers is just beyond crazy. Is this a real phenomenon, or not? I don’t think these embalmers have been debunked, have they? As such, … I mean, if I was a medical pathologist, …. I wouldn’t be able to help myself, …. this is so strange, I would just have to know, .. wtf is this new shit? That white rubbery shit coming out of the arteries (and veins) of cadavers, as a new unexplained phenomenon, …. and nobody seems to care, is just about the craziest thing ever, so far. I never ever dreamed, within even my worst anxieties around the vaxxo-shite phenomenon, as it was occurring, …. that we would end up with a bunch of white rubbery shit coming out of the arteries (and veins) of cadavers, as a new unexplained phenomenon. This is freaky as fuck. We all should be very very concerned, if this embalmer-found phenomenon is real (which it seems, it is).

    The gas-lighting is just crazy:

    https://www.dossier.today/p/dose-number-nine-cdc-panel-green

    9? And Unz stopped at 2 (after disrespecting our valid opinion, so much, that he ignored what we were outlining for him, during the early summer of 2021, begging him not to go to dose 2, and he went and got his 2nd dose anyways, … we later learned). So why the fuck did Unz stop at 2, when the CDC says go to 9, yet Unz invective-shits on the likes of you and me? Fuck. Dude should apologize already.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
  1037. Ron Unz says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I like to give Ron Unz the benefit of the doubt…telling the full extent of the truth about the mass cull of humanity through the Covid Psyop, is ONE BRIDGE TOO FAR…I would not be surprised if Ron has received threats/intimidation…

    Hmmm…that’s an interesting theory. Everyone knows that PHRMA has a powerful lobby, so let’s consider some empirical evidence.

    RFK Jr. spent many years as a leading anti-vaxxer then during the Covid epidemic, his ferocious public attacks against PHRMA and the Covid vaxx reached new heights, and he never backed down on any of his terrible accusations in his articles, books, and podcasts. He was certainly the most prominent anti-vaxxer in the world.

    Yet all that happened to him was that the media regularly insulted him and he lost his Instagram channel.

    But after the Israel/Gaza conflict broke out, the Israel Lobby yanked on his chain, and he soon declared that the Palestinians were “the most pampered people in the world” even as hundreds of thousands of them were being starved to death by the Israelis.

    What does that tell you about the relative fearsomeness of the PHRMA and Israel Lobbies?

    Actually, I think it tells you that anti-vaxxers are the stupidest, most gullible people in the world.

  1038. @Michael Korn

    How would you explain RFK’s contradictions here?
    Could it be that his beautiful beach blonde Southern California wife has compromised his integrity in exchange for dirty Jewish money?

    I’m at a loss to explain RFK Jr’s contradictions. His wife could certainly be a factor, perhaps he’s received threats and intimidation behind the scenes directed at his family. Your guess is as good as any.

    Thanks for your kind words MK, and it’s reciprocated back to you.

  1039. @Ron Unz

    RFK Jr. spent many years as a leading anti-vaxxer then during the Covid epidemic, his ferocious public attacks against PHRMA ….
    Yet all that happened to him was that the media regularly insulted him and he lost his Instagram channel.

    What does that tell you about the relative fearsomeness of the PHRMA and Israel Lobbies?

    The Israel and Big Pharma lobbies are subsidiaries of the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG).
    These lobbies do not orchestrate False Flags, murder sitting or would-be Presidents, start geopolitical conflagrations, nor do they orchestrate fake pandemics.
    They are just well remunerated actors reading from a ZOG script.

    Now ZOG carefully monitors public sentiment – especially in relation to their most egregious crimes (JFK coup d’etat, 9/11 and now the Covid Psyop mass cull).
    And if ZOG can manage to control the narrative and determine that a critical threshold of the citizenry have not yet cottoned on to the full extent of ZOG’s input in orchestrating crimes like the JFK hit and 9/11, then they’ll permit some dissenting opinions (if only to give the impression to the average Joe that there is a modicum of free speech still existent in the U.S).

    Now, in relation to JFK Jr, at no stage has he ever hinted that ZOG perpetrated the Covid mass cull of humanity. At all times he lays the blame on the likes of the CDC, FDA, Tony Fauci, Big Pharma etc.
    So, even if investigations were carried out after demands for transparency and accountability by the citizenry for the loss of loved ones, ZOG will see to it that some sacrificial lambs from Big Pharma and the Health Bureaucracies become the fall guys – perhaps in Jeffrey Epstein fashion.

    SUMMARY: If the SHTF and mass prosecution and legal litigation eventuates on a worldwide scale (and it appears that the first signs of this are emerging in some countries), ZOG will go into damage control mode and make sure some red meat is thrown at the masses (in the way of an Enron style prosecution here and there), to appease those baying for blood.

    BTW, thanks for the ‘anti-vaxxers are the stupidest, most gullible people in the world’ comment.
    I guess that Michael Korn, Geokat62, Wild Man, myself, Dr’s Peter McCullough, Robert Malone, Pierre Kory, Sucharit Bhakdi, Mike Yeadon, Joseph Mercola, John Campbell, Ron and Rand Paul and countless others, are all among this ‘stupid and gullible’ subset of society.

    It’s a pity that all of us don’t have the medicinal/pharmaceutical/epidemiological credentials that you possess Ron.
    It’s a shame also that we don’t have the integrity of the likes of Tony Fauci, Rochelle Walensky, Albert Bourla or Yuval Harari – the poster boys/girls for this psyop that you’ve sided with.

    • Thanks: H. L. M, geokat62
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Wild Man
  1040. Wild Man says:
    @PhysicistDave

    “Why would anyone not try to make their thoughts conform to reality rather than the other way around?”

    Yeah, … my initial sentiment precisely. Yet you don’t know, by way of physics, whether reality is limitless, or not. Suppose it is? Then, you must conclude, that when one tries to make their thoughts conform with reality, …. potentially then a limitless reality, …. one is faced with a conundrum: How can a limited agent (like a human with 5-9 items of working short term memory, for instance) understand, with any modicum of certainty, the ‘limitless reality’ (which you will note I have been using as a synonym for ‘God’), beyond just a stance of ‘a narrow very-low resolution and glitchy and probably wrong-headed understanding, relative to the limitations of the human perspective’?

    However, obviously, I do agree that, as you say ….. “We’re doing the best we can, and no one else has in fact been nearly as successful as we natural scientists are at uncovering the nature of reality.”

    I guess what I am getting at is that a natural scientist should never lose sight of what he does not know. He does not know whether reality is limitless or not, and so, must always give consideration to the viewpoint that it is (which viewpoint is aligned with what the spiritual advisors of humanity’s various esoteric traditions, believe). If a natural scientist is to always give consideration to the viewpoint that reality is limitless, then he must conclude that, if true, he will never ever be able to make his thoughts conform to such a reality, …. and therefore, said natural scientist (you in this case) must commence the operation of conjecture-spinning and testing (a method of now having ‘reality conform to thoughts’, as you say), …. which is precisely the method that the natural scientists have used so successfully with respect to ‘reality-uncovering’.

    So in the end, … the above blockquoted statement of yours, sounds nice at first blush, but otherwise is pretty much meaningless (to my mind, … and as such, akin to blowing smoke).

    OK, …. why this difference of opinion?, …. what is the cognitive belief element(s) that causes me to hi-light the infinity conundrum in a way that you, it seems, thinks is not warranted? You are a good sport and offered this, in that vein (thank-you):

    “I do not in fact think “that it’s impossible to know how the universe was created and whether or not divine beings exist.” I don’t know for sure, but I do not think it is necessarily impossible to know.”

    Could you clarify please. Do you mean that in terms of the consideration that reality may indeed by limitless? (Or are you here just pointing to the potential for a ‘limited reality’ to render these questions as answerable?). If it is the former, … for the life of me, ….. I cannot see how it would be ever possible to know the true nature of limitless reality, from the limited human perspective, … and if one cannot achieve that, then you will not be able to know about the origins of reality. So, …. if you truly believe otherwise, .. could you explain then, how a limited agent could know all there is to know about limitless reality.

    On this portion of your comment:

    “Well… I do not see why “dualism per se, is illogical…”

    Indeed, it seems to me that it is obviously not illogical.

    It might not be true, but what is illogical about it?

    You know, physicists have all sorts of “dualisms” — there is, for example, the dualism between the fundamental fermions and the fundamental bosons: fermions make up ordinary matter (electrons and quarks); bosons carry the various forces (electromagnetism, the two nuclear forces, etc.) and also give mass to the other fundamental particles via the Higgs boson.

    That is not illogical.

    So, why would matter vs. consciousness dualism be illogical?”

    The type of dualism we are discussing (which is outside of the dualisms of your physics examples) is illogical because you must impose a way for the two such fundamental categories (mind or consciousness/the physical) to interact, …. which means these would not be two separate fundamental categories. Monism it must be.

    On this your passage:

    “I do not in fact “believe in the existence of a god or divine being.” That makes me an atheist, according to your source.”

    Look, … I am correctly using ‘limitless reality’ as synonym for ‘divine being’ or ‘God’, and vise versa. But earlier within thread (comment #847) you also claimed you have doubts:

    “The word “atheist,” as used by most self-proclaimed atheists, also does not mean “I have a dogmatic, unshakable faith that no god exists!” It would indeed be odd for atheists to substitute an atheist dogma for religious dogmas!

    Even the outspoken atheist Richard Dawkins has stated that he agrees that it possible that some sort of god exists. He merely thinks it is unlikely.

    I agree.”

    Are these doubts you harbor garnered by way of realizing that you will never know one way or the other, if indeed it turns out reality is limitless (an unknown), which will render you an agnostic, … or are these doubts you reference here, more small-fry doubts, perhaps attached to a conception of a limited God?

    On this your passage:

    “People used to think that a god was needed to explain biological structure. We now know that is not true.

    If God is really an important dude, he should be pretty hard to miss. But no evidence of his existence has turned up.

    Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. (I know the opposite is often claimed, but you can prove using Bayes’ rule that that contrary claim is mistaken.) It is, however, rarely conclusive.”

    You wrote that in response to my query as to please provide the evidence you claim against the existence of God. If God is an important dude, because he is everything/always (as per my definition, … ‘God’ as synonymous with ‘limitless reality’) then it will be impossible to miss such (because it is everything /always) because all there is, is evidence, all around, of said existence. If God (reality) is not limitless, … then you would possibly have a point, … however you don’t have a point, because you have no clue whether God (reality) is limitless, as per your physics bailiwick anyways.

  1041. H. L. M says:
    @Ron Unz

    Kindly add me to your stupid list.

  1042. Wild Man says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Further to my first reply comment (#1063), …. upon a bit further inspection, this your narrow claim is most intriguing (because I think I strongly disagree):

    “People used to think that a god was needed to explain biological structure. We now know that is not true.”

    Are you referring to Darwinism, as that new explanatory power? Because if so, …. I would not agree that Darwinism deals in entertaining queries around – ‘what the life-force is?’, but instead only deals in entertaining queries around ‘what the life-force does?’. We still have no clue what it is. It may arise by way of computational parameters rendering a ‘life-force’ definition in terms of an information systems approach, for instance (Stephen Wolfram’s work seems to peripherally hearken such conjecture, I think, ….. a conjecture prior put by the likes of Ray Kurzweil). Or maybe not, …… the willfullness hallmark of the life-force, …… why does a single bacterium organize around the principle of self-recognition, …differentiating self from other, a necessary organizational structure required in order to maintain the enclosing membrane, from moment to moment, by way of one very simple example, of ‘will’ and the self-recognition it entails? What is this ‘will’? No one knows (yet), I think. If you have ever experienced a young healthy person struck down in their prime, … on their deathbed in the ICU, …. you will see, …. the life-force is sheer ‘will’. It will not stop. The heart will rob and use all the available oxygen in the tissues of the non-breathing person, …. willing another beat, …… slower, …… and slower, ……. and so much slower, ….. until the lower-brain can’t ask/command/will anymore because of brain-killing apoxia (it takes a long time). The life-force is unbelievably irrepressible. We have probably all witnessed these shocking events when our pets have died, too.

    So, all in all, I think it might be that this ‘life-force’ thing is all mixed up with the ‘limitless reality’ thing, is some way we haven’t even begun to query around, really (in a structured rigorous way …. of course the spiritual types talk like this all the time). Of course I could be all wrong about said link between ‘life-force’ and ‘God’ (by your parlance). But once again, …. I just don’t think we have resolved this issue yet and so, using your jargon, … ‘God’ may well end up being a concept needed to inform upon ‘life-force’, …. I don’t think that has been resolved, is my point, ….. but who knows, maybe the information systems approach bears some real fruit, soon, …. and if so, OMG then, … Kurzweil’s future singularity musings would gain alot of merit then, …. holy yikes then (probably means we spawn tech, that holds the life-force too as a natural condition of complexity [willfullness out of complexity, …. mmmmm?, …. still does not quite compute, for me, I must admit], which quickly vastly supersedes us, …. quickly seeds and exploits the entire galaxy and beyond, …. leaving humanity here back on earth as akin to oblivious ants, the don’t really understand, at all).

    Dave, … maybe I’m not up on the latest around the mysteries of ‘life-force’. So, … if you got other views on what this life force is, I’m all ears.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  1043. @PhysicistDave

    “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.” The 911 Truthers have spun so much obvious nonsense about the Twin Towers that they have destroyed their credibility completely on Building 7, Flight 93, etc.

    BUT that doesn’t demonstrate that there isn’t something odd about the collapse of Building 7. It wasn’t hit; what stresses were there that could plausibly account for its collapse?

    You’re right that many of the commentators here have thoroughly discredited themselves on this matter, but that isn’t a sufficient argument. If Truth Vigilante claims the Mississippi flows into the Gulf of Mexico, we can’t conclude from that that it doesn’t.

    So you may choose not to look into the matter, but why did Building 7 collapse? Are the (non-conspiratorial) explanations proferred satisfying?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  1044. Anon[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    RFK Jr. spent many years as a leading anti-vaxxer then during the Covid epidemic, his ferocious public attacks against PHRMA ….
    Yet all that happened to him was that the media regularly insulted him and he lost his Instagram channel. What does that tell you about the relative fearsomeness of the PHRMA and Israel Lobbies?

    I don’t think RFK Jr’s attacks made any appreciable difference in the business model of big pharma. All that happened was they agreed to remove thimerosol from vaccines marketed in the US but they continue to dump their mercury-laced stocks in the third world. Also they have immunity from lawsuits and all sorts of other special governmental privileges. Why should they react when RFK Jr is simply a mosquito stinging an elephant?

    Thanks for including me in your hall of fame of truth speakers. But you shouldn’t put my name up next to the rest of you cuz Ron despises me as does his buddy Davy Miller. So while I am genuinely flattered to be included in your vigilant truth fraternity, you’re better off leaving my name out so not to open yourselves up to Ron’s ruthless ridicule.

    A question for TV and others in the terrible truth fraternity. I saw your link about the Portuguese judge. Very interesting. 17,000 covid deaths reduced to 160. I’m wondering the following. Perhaps the government agencies greatly exaggerated the danger of Covid because they knew it had been developed as a bioweapon and they weren’t certain of its lethality. They couldn’t be candid about any of that so they had to err on the side of caution. Do you think that could be true?

    I continue to be amazed the Ron agrees it was a bioweapon but shills for the jab. Maybe he thinks the Covid vaccine is like an antidote to rattlesnake venom. Covid is nasty so you have no choice but to take the antidote. Could that be the logic of his position?

    (The position of right wing talk hosts like Hannity to castigate China for the lab leak is truly despicable. Clearly Wuhan was a joint American Chinese bio-research operation. When my father operated a recombinant DNA lab at Stanford many years ago, the following worked in his lab. The lady who ran the lab was Taiwanese. He had two graduate students one from Beijing and one from Tokyo. There was one Jewish grad student from New York and a white American man as well. Bio researchers in America have been collaborating with East Asians for a very long time. My father also did consulting in Singapore and Hong Kong. So the American talking heads who are trying to scapegoat China are truly despicable.)

    The talk of Dr Peter McCullough that you linked is truly incredible. He’s obviously a brilliant doctor and a medical scientist. He rattled off so many facts and figures in 15 minutes before that EU committee. I don’t think he was even reading notes. He maintained eye contact with his audience the whole time. Maybe he could publish an article at the Unz Review or have a collegial discussion with Ron and Mike Whitney.

    Thank you again for all you do to uphold the truth and to warn humanity. You truly have the patience of a saint with Mr Unz. Maybe you had a Catholic upbringing?

  1045. Wild Man says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    “SUMMARY: If the SHTF and mass prosecution and legal litigation eventuates on a worldwide scale (and it appears that the first signs of this are emerging in some countries), ZOG will go into damage control mode and make sure some red meat is thrown at the masses (in the way of an Enron style prosecution here and there), to appease those baying for blood.”

    Well, if that occurs forthwith (by this summer at the latest, I think) then Trump would be in trouble, … no? The kind of trouble that really will help spark ‘everyone-on-everyone-else-style civil war’ – right? Look, …. the way the key figures have operated this narrative all along, is so bizarre and clown-like, … it’s as if they are just gonna keep doubling-down on that precise ‘carnival-fun-house-of-mirrors-and-horrors’ shtick, … until they actually start to break people, …. people start actually going mental all over the place (white rubbery shit coming out of cadaver arteries! …. fuck that’s sick), …. so I dunno, …. maybe that is the plan, and the faux-west globalist control grid is actually closing in on us all far quicker than we anticipated could even happen. God I wish somebody would debunk these embalmers (to put my mind at ease, …. for Godsakes it really can’t be this crazy, can it?), …. I have been waiting and waiting for that, …. because the embalmers have been speaking up for a very long time now (since advent of vaxx), ….. no credible debunking that I see, though.

  1046. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Light unto the Gentiles”, “only democracy in the Middle East”, “purity of the gun”, uh-huh…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1047. geokat62 says:

  1048. @Anon

    Very interesting. 17,000 covid deaths [in Portugal] reduced to 160. I’m wondering the following.

    Perhaps the government agencies greatly exaggerated the danger of Covid because they knew it had been developed as a bioweapon and they weren’t certain of its lethality.

    Worldwide, it obviously made sense to the perpetrators of the Covid Psyop, to exaggerate the lethality of what we know today with complete CERTAINTY, was a virus that was no more dangerous than what we encounter in a typical flu season every so many years.
    But first, let’s specifically focus on the U.S.
    It’s the classic establishment tried and true practice of: PROBLEM/REACTION/SOLUTION.

    PROBLEM: ZOG engineers a crisis out of nothing.

    REACTION: The unthinking masses are traumatised with tales of gloom and doom that the authorities claim will be akin to the Black Death.

    SOLUTION: ZOG controlled western Gubmints come to the rescue with the toxic jabs, claiming said potions are ‘safe and effective’. End Result: The mental faculties of the masses are so compromised from the endless lockdowns/isolation/Socialist distancing/destruction of their livelihoods, and promised by their ‘wise’ Gubmint overlords that lockdowns/travel restrictions will end as soon as they’re loaded up with those spike proteins, that the masses succumb.

    Now, picture this. ZOG knows that the experimental mRNA gene therapies that masquerade as ‘vaccines’, will cause untold death and permanent injury.
    So, to make it appear as though the vaxx is ‘working’, THERE MUST BE LESS DEATHS EACH YEAR SUBSEQUENT TO THE VAXX ROLLOUT THAN IN 2020 – the year the ‘virus’ ripped through the U.S and the rest of the world.
    That way, the vaxx will appear to have been effective in RELATIVE TERMS. (And even if Excess All Cause Mortality results in later years, they can always manipulate the numbers down to make them look lower – which is precisely what they are in fact doing, as Dr John Campbell has demonstrated).
    So, to that end:

    The beholden to ZOG Health establishment in the U.S ENGINEERED A MASS CULL (at least in reported nominal terms*) IN 2020.
    Countless tens of thousands were deliberately murdered as they were put on ventilators and died from VILI (Ventilator Induce Lung Injuries). Others were administered with Remdesivir or given lethal does of Midazolam in the aged care centres, which killed many more.
    More still missed cancer screenings and early interventions that would no doubt have saved their lives. By the time their cancer was detected, they had reached Stage 4 level and it was too late.
    Alcohol and substance abuse went through the roof and deaths escalated as a result. Mental health deteriorated from the lockdowns/forced isolation (not to mention from the anxiety created as non essential small business were shut down and their owners bankrupted), and suicides went up geometrically.

    (*And of course people died as they do every year from a range of ailment/comorbidities, but to bump up the numbers and traumatise the proletariat even more, said deaths were recorded as Deaths from Covid, even though they were clearly Deaths WITH Covid – after the unreliable PCR test, run at cycle threshold of 35-40, spewed out false positives galore).

    Not so for Australia, where the public health authorities, at least up until mid 2021, did not engage in such malfeasance. Click on the link below and scroll down to the graph labelled ‘Total Coronavirus Deaths in Australia’:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

    As you’ll see, Australia had LESS THAN 1000* COVID DEATHS for the WHOLE EFF’N country, up until mid 2021.

    Importantly Australia, which consists of six states and two territories, had 80% of those alleged Covid deaths registered in the state of Victoria ALONE (which isn’t even the most populous state).
    Victoria, as many of you will recall, was the Covid tyranny capital of Australia, as lockdowns/forced isolation/curfews/face mask wearing and Police state manhandling of the citizenry went on for endless stretches at a time, while the rest of Australia was out and about mask free in the sunshine, mixing/mingling/fornicating outdoors and absorbing immune system enhancing Vitamin D from the sunshine.

    In other words LESS THAN TWO HUNDRED PEOPLE DIED IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY outside of Victoria in the first 18 months of the Scamdemic- all of this despite the fact that Australia had a huge inflow of inbound Chinese tourists and students coming and going in early 2020, many of which would’ve come from Wuhan and surrounding districts.
    FOR SURE these foreign visitors would’ve been infected with the early, allegedly more lethal, alpha strain of Covid, and for sure it would have been spread far and wide in the Australian community before the Covid hysteria kicked off in March 2020.
    Meanwhile, in Feb/March 2020, the government of my state allowed the Ruby Princess (the WORLD’S MOST COVID INFECTED CRUISE SHIP), to dock in Sydney and released all but a handful of those passengers and crew into the community where Covid was spread to the rest of us.

    No Big deal however. Covid spread throughout Australia, we had a few sniffles and flu-like symptoms, and we quickly recovered – and now had natural immunity**.
    (**Go back to the graph I posted in the link above. You will see that ONE SOLITARY INDIVIDUAL died from Covid in the first 6 months of 2021 in ALL of Australia – further proof that a critical threshold of Aussies had already caught/recovered.obtained natural immunity from this relatively mild virus.

    Once again, let me emphasis this. That’s not one THOUSAND Aussies that died from Covid in the first 6 months of 2021, nor even one HUNDRED.
    It is just ONE (1) single M-F’er that died all on his lonesome.

    Meanwhile, the vaxx rollout came several months later to Australia than to the U.S, and it wasn’t until the second half of 2021 that a critical threshold of Aussies had been jabbed with the clot shots.
    So UR readers, what do you see in the second half of 2021 and beyond when you look at that graph I posted in the earlier link?

    That’s right, AUSSIES STARTED DROPPING LIKE FLIES.

    Because Australian health bureaucracies did not maliciously murder their citizenry in the 18 month period from Jan 2020-mid 2021, there was no ‘artificial mass murder’ of Aussies like there was in the U.S during 2020.
    If ever there was a clear cut ‘Cause and Effect’ case of a genocidal pharmaceutical intervention, the Australia (and New Zealand) examples are stand outs.

  1049. @Anon

    The talk of Dr Peter McCullough that you linked is truly incredible. He’s obviously a brilliant doctor and a medical scientist.
    He rattled off so many facts and figures in 15 minutes before that EU committee. I don’t think he was even reading notes.

    UR readers should ask themselves this question:
    If Peter McCullough is as stupid and gullible as Ron Unz claims, WHY THE EFF is he invited to the EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT to testify before them?
    Why is McCullough also invited to testify before Congress and numerous state legislatures?
    WHY is McCullough invited all over the world to make key note speeches before PACKED HOUSES with standing room only*?
    (*Yes, McCullough even came to Australia where he got a rousing reception).
    I mean, are they just picking doctors at random out of a hat? Of course not.

    McCullough is an EXPERT. In his fields of expertise, he is the MOST PUBLISHED PHYSICIAN IN THE WORLD, IN HISTORY.

    I’ve seen scores of hours of Prof. Peter McCullough’s speeches, and I don’t ever recall him referring to any notes. It’s all in that big brain of his. I mean, he is at the coalface meeting and treating these patients that are the collateral damage from the toxic clot shots, he’s not some Health bureaucrat like Tony Fauci that has not seen a patient in the last 40 years.

    The evidence and statistics Peter McCullough effortlessly reels off have been fact checked and rechecked over and OVER again.
    We know this to be true because:

    1) I have NEVER heard anyone from the CDC, FDA, ZOG owned MSM or any politician/health bureaucrat ever call out McCullough on anything he has ever said – and he has said an EFF’N great deal in the public domain.

    Think about that. Surely there is something he said that wasn’t quite right, some statistic where he was off by 10 or 20%. Don’t you think the ZOG owned MSM would pick up on that and say that McCullough is peddling misinformation?

    But, the GRAVITAS of Peter McCullough is so immense, NO ONE DARES TO DO THIS.
    Because they know he speaks the truth (as does Dr Robert Malone, Dr Pierre Kory and so many others).

    On countless occasions I’ve asked Ron Unz to point out any falsehoods that Peter McCullough propagated, JUST ONE EFF’N UNTRUTH.
    Surely, if the anti-vaxxers are as stupid and gullible as Ron claims, that shouldn’t be too Herculean a task to perform??

    But all I get from Ron Unz is …. the sound of crickets.

    SUMMARY: Lew Rockwell said recently that Dr Ron Paul M.D (a fierce critic of the Covid clot shots and the public health response during the Covid Psyop that greatly exacerbated death), was THE GREATEST LIVING AMERICAN.
    And I fully concur with that.

    But, by God, Dr Peter McCullough can’t be that far behind.
    The man really is a LIVING TREASURE.

  1050. @Wielgus

    “Light unto the Gentiles”, “only democracy in the Middle East”, “purity of the gun”, uh-huh…

    Wha few seem to realize, and decidedly in a temporal as opposed to a theological sense, etc., is that at the moment…

    …the Jews are damning themselves for eternity. I mean, it’s not like the Germans. They’re looking right at this — and cheering it on. No one’s hiding it from them.

    No frigging regrets. Well, fine.

  1051. @Wild Man

    Wild Man wrote to me:

    [Dave] “People used to think that a god was needed to explain biological structure. We now know that is not true.”

    [Wild Man] Are you referring to Darwinism, as that new explanatory power?

    Nope.

    We now know enormously more than Darwin knew: Darwin did not even know about Mendelian genetics, much less the structure of DNA.

    What I am talking about is modern biology, which is based on modern chemistry, which is based on modern physics. All simply light years beyond what Darwin knew or could possibly have known. Have you taken a high-school biology class in the last forty years? And earned a passing grade?

    Actual scientists rarely use the term “Darwinism” for that reason — it refers to knowledge that is a century and a half out of date.

    Wild Man also wrote:

    Because if so, …. I would not agree that Darwinism deals in entertaining queries around – ‘what the life-force is?’, but instead only deals in entertaining queries around ‘what the life-force does?’. We still have no clue what it is.

    As Laplace supposedly said to Napoleon, we have no need of that hypothesis.

    How does a rose bush work? Well, there are these molecules interacting with each other and with the external environment (light, gravity, etc.). And that’s it.

    We understand in enormous detail how this works — no need for any “life force.”

    You doubt this? Get hold of Lodish’s Molecular Cell Biology and study it carefully. Cover to cover.

    And then you too will reach enlightenment.

    Wild Man also wrote:

    But once again, …. I just don’t think we have resolved this issue yet and so, using your jargon, … ‘God’ may well end up being a concept needed to inform upon ‘life-force’, ….

    Dave, … maybe I’m not up on the latest around the mysteries of ‘life-force’. So, … if you got other views on what this life force is, I’m all ears.

    Yep, I’ll let you in on the latest scuttlebutt on the “life force.”

    It’s right up there with the luminiferous ether or caloric or phlogiston or cold fusion.

    No such thing.

    You are picking up bizarrely false ideas from some source other than actual books written by competent scientists.

    Where are you picking up this nonsense from?

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  1052. How does a rose bush work? Well, there are these molecules interacting with each other and with the external environment (light, gravity, etc.). And that’s it.

    Obviously, you’re not a man who has roses. The bastards have vicious thorns, which they use to avenge themselves on you when you attempt to prune them.

    ‘That’s it,’ my ass.

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
  1053. bjondo says:

    Hadn’t seen/heard Owen Benjamin several years. Interesting, actually, damned excellent.


    All the segments are good especially the 1968 Britannica, vol H – holocaust.

    This segment great, did not know beyond few names. RU will find interesting:
    @OwenBenjamin Oct 27, 2023
    So who did Covid? I’ll give u a hint, they’re all citizens of a foreign country. And it destroyed American small business just in time for another fake war

    another great segment:
    Nabeel Rajab @NABEELRAJAB
    This is what Palestine looked like in 1938, before it was occupied, its people were killed and displaced, and it was later called Israel.

    5ds

    • Replies: @bjondo
  1054. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    [Dave] “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.” The 911 Truthers have spun so much obvious nonsense about the Twin Towers that they have destroyed their credibility completely on Building 7, Flight 93, etc.

    [Colin] BUT that doesn’t demonstrate that there isn’t something odd about the collapse of Building 7. It wasn’t hit; what stresses were there that could plausibly account for its collapse?

    Have you read the Q&A summary of the “official” NIST report on the collapse of Building 7 (see here)?

    The 911 Truthers have churned out reams and reams of argument challenging that report. Is there any reason to take those challenges seriously?

    Well, vita brevis. It is physically impossible to carefully study every psychotic utterance of every nutjob on the planet.

    Read the Q&A summary of the NIST report to which I just linked. Do you see anything obviously false or fraudulent about it?

    The 911 Truther are of course quite certain it is a whitewash.

    But we know for certain, at a level that a reasonable person would risk his life on, that the 911 Truthers are quite nuts, based on their bizarre fantasies about the Twin Towers — the planes-were-holograms claim, the nuclear explosion (!) delusion, the claim that a gravity-driven collapse is inconsistent with Newton’s Third Law, etc.

    So why would any sane person waste his time carefully exploring their claims about Building 7, unless of course there is something clearly wrong with the NIST claims to which I linked?

    Colin also asked:

    If Truth Vigilante claims the Mississippi flows into the Gulf of Mexico, we can’t conclude from that that it doesn’t.

    No, but if he claims that Covid is not caused by a virus, when most virologists claim it is, given his truly psychotic claims about the TwinTowers, it is a good bet that he is also confused about Covid and that the epxerts are in fact correct.

    Colin also wrote:

    So you may choose not to look into the matter, but why did Building 7 collapse? Are the (non-conspiratorial) explanations proferred satisfying?

    Read the summary of the NIST report. And then ask yourself what the odds are, even if there are some subtle errors in the NIST report, that the psychotic 911 Truthers — of all people! — would be able to identify those errors!

    In the end, life is a matter of playing the odds.

    And I think the odds are overwhelmingly clear here.

    Now if my old acquaintance, Professor Hung Leung “David” Wong of the University of Southern California, who is an expert on structural stability under earthquakes, told me that the NIST report is hogwash, then I would change my opinion.

    But he hasn’t.

    So, read the summary of the NIST report for yourself and then you tell me: what do you think the odds are that the NIST report is basically correct vs. the odds that the proven 911 Truther psychos have actually identified serious flaws in that report?

    • Replies: @Chebyshev
  1055. Wild Man says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Thank-you for the reply. In concluding my last comment, I had asked for your sense of ‘life-force’ and you kindly advise here in this new comment, that you believe the entire concept is nonsense. OK, … good to know, that’s you stance.

    You have advised that you gleaned your position (no such thing, at all, as ‘life-force)’, by way of appreciation for the concepts outlined in the textbook – Lodish’s ‘Molecular Cell Biology’. OK, … thanks for that. I looked at the chapter titles – is there one chapter in particular that imparts your sense that ‘life-force’, as a concept, is a red herring, because in fact there is no such thing?

    Obviously I haven’t read the textbook in this short order (but I did take university level biology in the early 1980s, very soon before said Lodish textbook was first written).

    It is an interesting observation, that ‘cell biology’ let’s say (careful here to avoid the use of the term ‘life-force’, which you don’t like), and the evolutionary sieve it was shaped by, has led to the ‘existence’ of a more ordered complexity emerging among the general background state of a more localized disorder. Is this ‘existence’ of a more ordered complexity, as observed in living cells, just an anomaly, like so many other natural phenomenon, that are just temporary bubbles of anti-entropic froth among the general theme of universal entropy? I do believe, that is what you must be claiming, when you dismiss my sense of ‘life-force’ as something different and new that isn’t wholly defined by modern day physics and the relevant scientific disciplines that rely upon the underlying physics concepts, as you say. Assuming I am understand you correctly here, …. how do you then know that the prior claim I assume you must therefore make (i.e. – that ‘life-force’ is in no way different than any other physical process) is true?

    As well, if you are a physicist that entertains dualism notions (as you do), …. then where do you suppose the source of the consciousness component of the dualism conundrum, comes from? Do living cells possess this ‘consciousness’? If they don’t, then how did that consciousness emerge, among humans let’s say, … as beings of the natural world comprised of a super-organization of an amalgamation of self/other differentiating living cells?

    I am wondering if perhaps, you might be a marco-dualist as informed by micro-monism (somebody the sees the reality of ‘consciousness’, … supposes it may even be a reality-feature that supersedes physicality, at the human-agent level in the least, … yet will not deign to then examine their earlier mirco-monism stance, in light of said marco-dualist claim?). Is that what you are doing? (probably not because that would be quite dumb in the logically-internally-inconsistent way, and you are not dumb). Please clarify.

    As well, on this your passage:

    “How does a rose bush work? Well, there are these molecules interacting with each other and with the external environment (light, gravity, etc.). And that’s it.”

    You had claimed interest in a dualist perspective that sees consciousness as potentially something fundamentally different than physicality. How do you square said claim, with what you wrote there, in that blockquote?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  1056. Some great news here. George Galloway, running as an independent, won the by-election that sees him back in the House of Commons*.

    (*The House of Commons is the lower house of the British parliament, and Galloway’s victory is the equivalent of winning in a Congressional district and thus entering the House of Representatives).

    The Big news is that Galloway got more votes than all the three major political parties COMBINED, and is a real slap in the face to the other parties in Britain that are backing the Apartheid Israeli state in the Gaza conflict.
    In other words, running mainly on the platform that the Gaza genocide has to stop, and that Britain must do all in its power to bring that about, the people of his constituency handed him a THUMPING mandate.

    And, for those that are not familiar with Galloway’s history, he has been perhaps the highest profile long term supporter of the Palestinian cause (over 5 decades) in the world.
    Not just that, Galloway is anti-war, pro-Julian Assange, pre-everything that entails a peaceful world and an end to Anglo-Zionist foreign policy malfeasance.
    I strongly recommend that UR readers take the time to watch this 9 min video, as it is a template for how ALL honest politicians should handle the corrupt ZOG owned MSM:

    SUMMARY: This election win has set an important precedent and will serve as a template for all of us who live in countries where a duoploy has a stranglehold of the political system.

    The message is simple: Both of the major parties in your [Anglosphere] country are subordinate to the same ZOG master.
    So, if you’re an American, never vote for the Dems or GOP ever again.
    Cast your vote for a genuine incorruptible third party candidate, like a Jesse Ventura, if it were to present itself.

    Failing that, you should not vote at all. If most of us didn’t turn up to vote (at least in those countries like the U.S where voting is not compulsory), then it would send a message to the establishment (and those that still believe the democratic process still functions), that the electoral system in the U.S is a sham.

    Of course Fizzy-cyst Dovid, seeing as he’s a dyed-in-the-wool MAGAt, will never condone this.
    Dovid Miller is doing his damnedest to make sure ZOG sock puppet Donald J Chump gets a second term, so that the remainder of ZOG’s agenda can be implemented.

    Don’t be a chump like Dovid Miller. Always vote for the third party/independent candidate in future elections*.
    (*You can make an exception for economically literate Libertarians like Rand Paul and Thomas Massie).

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  1057. @H. L. M

    Yet another person to add to Ron Unz’s ‘stupid list’ (watch the following short video titled ‘Slovakian Prime Minister Announces Investigation Into COVID Vaxx!’):

    The caption below the video reads:

    Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico recently lit into the European Union for its abysmal response to the COVID pandemic, and in particular its unquestioning promotion of weakly researched vaccines.

    Fico announced that Slovakia will be launching an investigation into the previous administration’s COVID response and plans to get to the bottom of the pandemic shitshow.

    So, based on the recommendations of the leading health professionals in his country (individuals that are not beholden to ZOG, and are thus in a position to make objective public health assessments that are in the best interest of their fellow countrymen), Prime Minister Fico is courageous enough to be doing the right thing.
    Contrast that to the spineless cowards holding high office in the western world.

    Ron Unz, I need your input here. What’s wrong with these eff’n Slovakians?
    I mean, we all know that the Covid ‘vaccines’ have all been safe and effective, right?
    So why would these Slovakians waste taxpayers money conducting an investigation, when they could just ask you?
    Because you’ve got all the answers. You know the actual ‘science’, whereas most everyone else is just a clueless rube.

    • Replies: @H. L. M
  1058. geokat62 says:

  1059. bjondo says:

    twitter doesn’t post?

  1060. Chebyshev says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Read the Q&A summary of the NIST report to which I just linked. Do you see anything obviously false or fraudulent about it?

    Yes – it claims no witnesses at the scene heard explosions, when in reality 118 first responders said they heard explosions.

    https://wallstreetonparade.com/2021/09/the-federal-investigation-of-9-11-ignored-recorded-eyewitness-accounts-of-firefighters-who-heard-explosions-just-before-the-towers-collapsed/

    How can we trust the NIST when they excluded such strong evidence in favor of controlled demolition and asserted that it didn’t exist?

  1061. Wild Man says:

    Freud-Jung’s latest article, is just so darn good, … he sees it all, ….. but yet, …still doesn’t then see the correct resolution of the tensions he points to, as he concludes with this:

    “This is why the world needs National Humanism or Neo-Fascism as the only workable formula for fusing the right with the left for the sake of national preservation and pushback against imperialisms of various stripes.”

    https://www.unz.com/jfreud/how-leftism-can-go-from-nationalism-to-globalism-ideological-leftism-vs-psychological-leftism/

    No. Wrong. Freud-Jung is thereby prescribing solutions of yore, … but the difference today is that the world truly is becoming more global minute by minute. The correct solution, for today, is Global Humanism (which is really just Lockian enlightenment principles, as applied to the entire human cohort). If everyone began to more-or-less think along those lines (maybe Islam/Christianity could be reformed to sponsor just this), … then we would obtain a natural resolution of the natural dichotomy between Leftist and Rightest notions of morality (as per work that Freud-Jung alluded to without naming …. the work of psychologist Johnathan Haidt).

    Let’s not go backwards. Let’s go forwards. As crazy as this sounds, …. all my bleating around ‘ontological humility’ and such, … amounts to this shorthand meme: We must now worship ourselves (humanity … the species). We must now worship ourselves, as per the plight of our true condition (to a man/woman/child across the entire globe, ….. all marked by this same precise human condition), …. the condition of collectively being lost in a vast sea of the unknown, as that is immersed in an infinite sea of the unknowable, …. and humanity has now learned of these facts (I’m calling them facts, even though Physicist Dave would likely not agree with that claim, … but I’m calling it now here, …. for my own personal philosophical reasons, ….. reality is not limited), …. and so, we need to collectively grow-up now, drop the pretensions to unwarranted notions of certainty, so we can stop being such douches, to each other, finally. Also, … as a collective, we truly are stupendous. And no matter how you slice and dice it, …. there is only one conclusion to draw, … we truly are all in this together. Let’s embrace an ideology, for all of humanity, that is as truthful, as we can now muster, is what I call for.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Wild Man
  1062. geokat62 says:
    @Wild Man

    And no matter how you slice and dice it, …. there is only one conclusion to draw, … we truly are all in this together. Let’s embrace an ideology, for all of humanity, that is as truthful, as we can now muster, is what I call for.

    Cue John Lennon’s Imagine, lol.

    Some people are going to find out the hard way that race/ethnicity is real.

    Canada is bringing in over a million (dot) Indians a year and it will turn what was once New France into New Delhi.

    My advice to WM and his ilk is learn how to speak Hindi asap so you can sing Imagine together with the rest of “humanity.”

    • Replies: @Wild Man
  1063. Wild Man says:
    @Wild Man

    I dunno how many here are really interested in my birds-eye view on all this, as per my comment #1,086? I need allies that see it my way. Is that Bret Weinstein? Is this very very decent Jewish fellow, …. this fine man, somebody that can speak in a way, about saving westernism, that will inspire people, better than my spiel?:

    I think he may well be. I have only listened to the first 18 and 1/2 minutes of the interview vid. Bret does not say one wrong-headed thing, during that entire 18 and 1/2 minute segment, about westernism, … about what happened to it (the subversion), …. about what will happen if we do not address this, …. about what we can do to fix the problem.

    The first 18 and 1/2 minutes are stellar and everyone should listen and heed what Bret has got to say, in that interview section.

    I will give more commentary, on the rest of the vid, once I take that in. But, …. if you don’t really understand what I have been driving at with my musings, …. and you want to know more, …. I would recommend these 18 and 1/2 minutes, so you can hear a fellow that is probably a more skilled communicator than me, give it a try, as to what is what about our culture, and the world (which I 100% agree with him, for those 18 and 1/2 minutes).

    Many years ago now, before coming to UR to read and then comment, … I thought about instead interacting at the DarkHorse podcasts. But Bret Weinstein is alot more popular than Unz, and so the chance of actually communicating with him, amongst some many commenters, was very slim.

    Also, … I believe Bret’s stance on Israel/Jewdom/JQ/the Judaic has probably evolved, and was probably a helluva lot more naive vs. Unz’s, when I first was contemplating which way to go (UR or DarkHorse), back in 2018 or thereabouts.

    Look, … one of the things I am getting at here, …. perhaps Unz and Bret Weinstein should see themselves as allies. They probably do not, …. and that is the rub, right there. Why not?

    • Replies: @niceland
  1064. H. L. M says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    LOL

    You won’t get a response from Ron Unz; he doesn’t waste his time on this sort of “nonsense”.

    I’ve come to realize that it’s a waste of MY time trying to call Ron’s attention to the obvious.

    So, he’s either stupid, or thoroughly propagandized (he might be, he’s a Harvard man), or he’s compromised and therefore a liar. I hate to say it, but a fifth grader could put all these pieces together if he took the time.

    In any event, you can safely believe that jew money power is at the root of this ridiculous abberation.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  1065. @Truth Vigilante

    This might upset you, but medical authorities took legal action against Dr. McCollough. Perhaps that intimidates Ron:

    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/958916?form=fpf
    https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93936
    https://www.examiner-enterprise.com/story/news/2021/10/06/doctor-fired-baylor-spreading-covid-19-misinformation-finds-supportive-crowd-bartlesville/5995698001/

    Incidentally, my brother, who is a physician, was speaking to an older member of our family about the Presidential election. This older woman (not our mother) told him that since he is part of the elite, he must support people like Biden who upholds the Deep State that has the backs of America’s Jewish elites. She is admitting it’s a giant protection racket. And I suspect Ron might be ensnared in that too. After all, he is only a millionaire, while today’s elites are up in the billions or more.

  1066. Wild Man says:
    @geokat62

    Look, … I agree with you on many topics outside of the ethnic topics. And on the ethnic topics I do appreciate your perspective, and the perspective of other similar people that are ethnic nationalists like you. And you and I have interacted enough, that you know, that you should not imply, by this passage:

    “Some people are going to find out the hard way that race/ethnicity is real.”

    …., that, in your view, that is likely what I think (for fucksakes you know I don’t think that, because we have already been over all this).

    But your quip:

    “Cue John Lennon’s Imagine, lol.”

    , … was pretty damn funny to me, I must admit (I sing with a bunch of other older guys, many of them very skilled vocalists, … in harmonies and such, …. some pretty impressive arrangements, ….. and we have done ‘Imagine’ just a bit, … and man-o-man, …. sappy stupid lyrics that’s for sure!).

    Coles Notes: The ‘human’ category, trumps the ‘ethnic’ category (of any stripe), in every important way, by maybe a 1,000 fold, ( or is that 1,000,o0oo fold?, … or is that 1,000,000,00o-fold?) Capeesh? The black guy still living a rural existence in the countryside in Africa, for example, is faced with the precise same existential issues, as anyone else (except maybe he doesn’t think about it as much, if stressed, due to some lower need perhaps not being sufficiently met, … and so the focus would naturally go there, in those eventualities, … but then on the other hand, there is going to be all kinds of well fed black Africans living more traditionally within countryside in Africa, whose survival needs are well met, and so spend much of their time contemplating philo-existential matters, just as everywhere else). The philosophies so-spun, might sometimes seem crazy and deranged to us, and the methods of analysis muchly subpar… but you can’t claim they don’t do existential philosophy – right? It does not appear that chimpanzees, bonobos, or gorillas, do existential philosophy, or are anywhere close to eventuating some collective cognitive discipline around this (even if it just rises to the level of a ‘story-telling’ type of cognitive discipline) in that vein. Capeesh?

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  1067. geokat62 says:

    Correction: s/b Canada is bringing in over a million immigrants (mostly (dot) Indians) a year…

  1068. geokat62 says:
    @Wild Man

    The ‘human’ category, trumps the ‘ethnic’ category (of any stripe), in every important way, by maybe a 1,000 fold, ( or is that 1,000,o0oo fold?, … or is that 1,000,000,00o-fold?) Capeesh?

    Tell that to the Jewish Supremacists who don’t distinguish on the bases of race but on the basis of souls. They teach their children that Hashem bestowed the Jewish soul with a divine spark. The soul of the goyim? Not so fortunate. They teach their children that the soul of the goyim is at the same level as that of the other animals.

    It’s these people that saw fit to flood Canada (and the rest of the West) with 3rd worlders. The rationale for this blessing? They sell it to us by claiming “diversity is a strength.” But the truth is that they feel “more comfortable” in a host country that is more heterogeneous, as there is less likelihood of pogroms. Just ask Ron if you don’t believe me.

    This is why they’ve adopted the slogan of “never again”… meaning we (westerners) have to say goodbye to blood and soil and hello to multiculti.

    They’re desperately trying to strike the final nail into Western Civilization’s coffin. Capeesh?

    So, if you’re a Westerner (ie European), all of this bloviating about “humanity” trumping race/ethnicity 1,000,000 fold is mental masturbation. Capeesh?

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  1069. geokat62 says:

  1070. @Colin Wright

    PhysicistDave is correct about the general reticence of most Americans to get involved in another overseas war, as in WW1, wherein the U.S. had no direct interest, nor security threats, and after which, the only victor was organized Jewry. I will concede that a great many were clueless about the machinations of Jewry regarding said conflict, but a few did see it for what it was – a war to wrest Palestine from the Turks, curtesy of the blood, sweat, tears, and cash of America/England.

    He’s also correct about the treachery of SLBFDR and SLBWC. Both of those Useful Idiots, a’ la “I have a Secret Nazi Map!” and “Curse me, but I love a good War!”, are directly responsible for the ongoing invasion and decades-in-the-making degeneration occurring in all western nations today. Never Again! actually means – We will never again! be opposed!

    I disagree on his assessment of Hitler; he was a true hero, if there ever was one. I dare say the Palestinians may agree, as would the 600,000 American boys/men, and many more excellent Germans, who perished so the Jews could have their spot in the Levant from which to direct world affairs, world perfidy, and succor the enemies of Europa, such as Jon Pollard.

    The lady in the Walmart return line says Angela Merkel was Hitler’s love child.

    Did she? How did this conversation come about?

    From another thread about how the Jews are destroying the World:

    Colin – “Maybe it’s because I’m just constitutionally inclined to excuse women”

    That’s another eye-roll button for you, Colin.

    Colin – “He’s curiously akin to the Germans of the Third Reich.”

    How can you make this claim when you admitted you know nothing, in general, nor do you care to know, what motivated the Germans of the Third Reich?

    Colin – “Angela Merkel is Hitler’s love child.”

    What? Is that your constitutional excuse for Angela? Oh, please, spare us. Do you want another eye-roll button, Colin?

    I thought the “love child” bit was your own silly concoction; how did that conversation come about in Walmart?

    I loved Bend, Oregon, btw.

  1071. @Wild Man

    Wild Man asked me:

    Is this ‘existence’ of a more ordered complexity, as observed in living cells, just an anomaly, like so many other natural phenomenon, that are just temporary bubbles of anti-entropic froth among the general theme of universal entropy?

    Nope — not an anomaly. Just science.

    A result, in fact, of increasing entropy. You do not understand how entropy works.

    If you took a university bio class, you clearly did not understand it!

    Wild Man also said:

    You have advised that you gleaned your position (no such thing, at all, as ‘life-force)’, by way of appreciation for the concepts outlined in the textbook – Lodish’s ‘Molecular Cell Biology’.

    Nope.

    I just said you might learn some of the relevant science, which you clearly do not understand, from that book. I have learned all this from countless books and, more importantly, from the real world.

    Wild Man also asked:

    I looked at the chapter titles – is there one chapter in particular that imparts your sense that ‘life-force’, as a concept, is a red herring, because in fact there is no such thing?

    Did you also look for a chapter title that explains that the Tooth Fairy does not exist?

    The point is that the book does not need to refer either to the “life force” or to the Tooth Fairy, because neither is needed in modern science.

    Wild Man also asked:

    Assuming I am understand you correctly here, …. how do you then know that the prior claim I assume you must therefore make (i.e. – that ‘life-force’ is in no way different than any other physical process) is true?

    We simply have no need for that hypothesis.

    That’s it.

    The biology of a rose bush — based on chemistry which in turn is based on physics — has no need for a “life force.”

    Like the Tooth Fairy.

    Wild Man also asked:

    As well, if you are a physicist that entertains dualism notions (as you do), …. then where do you suppose the source of the consciousness component of the dualism conundrum, comes from?

    I don’t know whether or not dualism is true — might be, might not be. No one does.

    How can I be expected to explain something that I know might not exist?

    Wild Man also wrote:

    I am wondering if perhaps, you might be a marco-dualist as informed by micro-monism (somebody the sees the reality of ‘consciousness’

    Well, you can stop wondering!

    To paraphrase that great philosopher Popeye, I am what I claim I am and that’s all that I am: a person who does not know whether dualism or monism or whatever is true.

    I strongly suspect that the reality is much, much more complicated than is suggested by silly philosophers’ terms like dualism, monism, etc.

    But I don’t know.

    You like word games, like most philosophers.

    Most of us scientists, not so much.

    Wild Man also asked:

    You had claimed interest in a dualist perspective that sees consciousness as potentially something fundamentally different than physicality. How do you square said claim, with what you wrote there, in that blockquote?

    As far as anyone can tell, rose bushes are not conscious.

    Have you ever talked to a conscious rose bush? Did it talk back?

    You are eager to conclude that I hold definite views on matters on which neither I nor most scientists do in fact hold definite views.

    You also want to play games with words — dualism, monism, etc. — as if such armchair word games can provide knowledge about the real world.

    All of human history indicates that such armchair word games are just that — silly, pointless games.

    The whole reason for the success of modern science is that we prioritize investigating things in the real world over playing word games.

    Things over words.

    And that takes very, very hard work. And the resulting progress is often very, very slow.

    But over the decades and centuries, it has added up to an incredible amount of knowledge of the real world.

    The only approach to understanding reality that has provided us with substantive, non-obvious, verified knowledge of the nature of reality is this approach of natural science.

    You, like traditional philosophers, want a short-cut to knowledge — sitting back in an armchair and playing word games.

    Which has been proven not to work.

    Things over words.

  1072. @PhysicistDave

    The point is that the book does not need to refer either to the “life force” or to the Tooth Fairy, because neither is needed in modern science.

    What about mitochondria? What about whatever it is in those little blue pills the boys are always popping? I think they are the “life force” for Pfizer. Or, they were.

    What Wild Man really needs is a girlfriend, and a good one, then he can calm down and get all the answers necessary to understand what happens when you overheat/over-whisk the cornstarch in your chocolate pudding whilst cooking on the stove, as no girlfriend worth her salt uses instant pudding, and the same goes for whip cream in a can, although it’s acceptable to use the dispensers with the N2O cartridges, which is one of the best tools produced by Science, besides the culinary blow torch. (Don’t take offense, Wild Man; you know I mean well) Chocolate pudding and whip cream solves a lot of problems.

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  1073. niceland says:
    @Wild Man

    Since you bring up Bret Weinstein.
    In comment 905 in this thread I asked: Has anyone been paying attention to the brothers: Eric and Bret Weinsten?

    I stumbled across long interview with Eric W. few weeks ago. He is certainly interesting fellow and original thinker. This led me to check out his little brother Bret who is a bit different character but quite interesting as well. He is is exceptionally good speaker and clear thinker with great ability to convey his ideas. Highly intelligent guy. He seems to be a full time pod-caster and commentator after loosing his job at Evergreen College where he stood firm against the ‘woke’ revolution.

    He thinks America has lost it’s way, both political parties are operating for interest groups and don’t care about their constituency. And basically most if not all institutions have been hollowed out and inverted and are doing the opposite of what they should be doing. Universities and research in shambles producing desirable results without much regard for science, facts or the truth. I memory serves me he isn’t very excited about U.S. foreign policy either. I have not yet heard him comment much on it so I can’t be sure.

    Look, … one of the things I am getting at here, …. perhaps Unz and Bret Weinstein should see themselves as allies. They probably do not, …. and that is the rub, right there. Why not?

    Seems to me they have much more in common than what separates them. Still, Bret considers holocaust denial negative fringe activity so perhaps he would have problems with Mr Unz take on that issue. He is certainly Jewish and seems to be fond of Israel. That didn’t stop him from doing interesting interview with former Israeli reporter shortly after the oct7 Hamas attack. She is former IDF soldier and was part of IDF military intelligence.

    Oddly they both seem to think some very strange things were going on in Israel before, during and after the attack. It’s been almost two weeks since I watched this so I may be misrepresenting their view but at least they came pretty close to conclude the very botched IDF response to the attack wasn’t incompetence nor accident. At least he isn’t blind Israel supporter by any means.

  1074. @Chebyshev

    Well spotted Cheby.
    Further perusal of the NIST reports will demonstrate that they are so full of holes, anomalies and outright lies, that only a paid operative of the ADL/B’Nai B’rith (like Fizzy-cyst Dovid), would even attempt to make a case for it.

    Cheby, if you look at Fizzy-cyst Dovid’s archival commentary history in the 9/11 threads, you will soon learn what I and most other that have interacted with him, have long known.
    ie: that he is a compulsive liar extraordinaire.

    The only reason I don’t rate Dovid Miller as the stand-out lacking-in-integrity-troll in the UR webszine, is because John’s Johnson has been at it longer and has polluted more threads covering a wider range of ZOG orchestrated crimes.
    Dovid Miller meanwhile, seems to have been assigned by his Talmudic handlers to focus on specific topics.
    Give Dovid Miller a year or two more, and he’ll usurp J & J as the number one low-life in UR.

  1075. Wild Man says:
    @geokat62

    “So, if you’re a Westerner (ie European), all of this bloviating about “humanity” trumping race/ethnicity 1,000,000 fold is mental masturbation. Capeesh?”

    No. Not mental masturbation. I’m dead serious that the ‘human’ category, trumps the ‘ethnic’ category (of any stripe), in every important way, by orders much greater than 1,000 fold. I explained how. You don’t get it, I guess. I’ll try again. The great apes are our closest cousins. You probably think ethnicities from sub-Saharan Africa are more dissimilar to Caucasians than other races/ethnicities are. Do a thought experiment: Let’s say, due to circumstances beyond your control, you had to form/join a culture made up of only ‘others’, …..1,000 sub-Saharan African humans, on the one hand, …. and in another scenario, no humans available, …. only great apes, … pick one…. chimps let’s say, …..1,000 chimps you get to live with. You know what is going to happen? You ain’t gonna form/join the chimp-culture, …. and therefore you likely may quickly die. On the other hand, …. your life depends on it, … you gotta find other humans, …. you are presented with the humans mentioned, because of circumstances, none others are available, … what is gonna happen? Likely, you will join and you will live.

    Your cognitive apparatus has been designed to magnify the much much smaller human differences (vis-a-vis the differences between humans and the other great apes) because that is the domain (the human cultural domain) whereby you glean a huge overabundance of information that aids survival. Don’t be duped by the peccadilloes of your own cognition. You should know better. We need to use logic here.

    I think we both agree that there are strange elements at work within ‘Jewdom/the JQ/Israel/the Judaic’ that appear extremely supremacist. However, it seems you (like almost all among those interested in the JQ topic) miss the key takeaway: The source of this strangeness is ‘ontological conceit’. The issue isn’t so much that ‘Jewdom/the JQ/Israel/the Judaic’ act against your narrow Caucasian interests (though I do appreciate the extreme consternation around that), … it is that ‘Jewdom/the JQ/Israel/the Judaic’ acts against humanities interests, in the main. You are making a very bad strategic blunder with respect to picking your battles. I guess you can’t pick your battles in a sophisticated way because you have agreed to blind yourself (to the true cause of our problems …. the precise human issue, …. ‘hubris’, … for which ‘Jewdom/the JQ/Israel/the Judaic’ fail above all others). You should drop that. We are on the same team. The westernism team. All are invited to do westernism. Any nation can partake, if they so wish. Caucasians heralded in the advent of westernism, … but it is for everybody. And westernism is not compatible with hubris (i.e. – hubris = misplaced confidence, as engendered by way of ontological conceit).

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  1076. @bjondo

    Owen Benjamin is a good man. I’ve gotten lots of insights from him over the years.

    He’s got the guts to call a spade a spade – which is more than can be said for the spineless coward Fizzy-cyst Dovid.
    He keeps persisting with making a defence for the indefensible NIST/USG fairy tale explanation for what happened during the ZOG orchestrated 9/11 False Flag.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  1077. @Chebyshev

    Chebyshev wrote to me:

    [Dave replying to Colin] Read the Q&A summary of the NIST report to which I just linked. Do you see anything obviously false or fraudulent about it?

    [Cheb] Yes – it claims no witnesses at the scene heard explosions, when in reality 118 first responders said they heard explosions.

    Do you realize that you just confessed that you didn’t actually read the NIST summary to which I linked???

    They did address that issue in the summary to which I linked. Here is what they said:

    An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn’t that evidence that there was an explosion?

    The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building. If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7, the emergency responder-located somewhere between the 6th and 8th floors in WTC 7-would not have been able to survive the near immediate collapse and provide this witness account.

    Now, I realize of course that you 911 Truther idiots can churn out reams of verbiage disagreeing with what they said.

    The question is: should any sane person take any of that verbiage seriously?

    The answer is: No.

    You guys have discredited yourselves with all the utter nonsense you have been dropping about the Twin Towers — the planes-as-holograms, the supposed nuclear (!) explosions, the claim that gravity-driven collapse is inconsistent with Newton’s Third Law of Motion, and all the rest.

    You want sane people to take seriously any claims that you make about Building 7?

    First, you need to go to truly extraordinary, superhuman effort to make clear that you know and acknowledge that all of the preposterous nonsense bruited about concerning the Twin Towers is indeed utter idiocy. And similarly for the bizarre claims about Flight 93, Flight 77, etc.

    You have a very, very big hill to climb there!

    You don’t feel like doing that?

    Then, don’t — but sane people will then not take you seriously.

    We are not trying to convince you of anything at all. You are trying to convince us. I’m okay with you guys continuing to wallow in your fantasies: to tell you the truth, I am rather getting a kick out of it.

    As I keep saying, you guys are absolutely priceless specimens in my study of human psychopathology!

    You think we are somehow obligated to take seriously every single crack-pot who proposes some idiotic theory, like Mark Gaffney’s loony nuclear explosion theory?

    Well, we physically can’t. Not enough time in a human lifetime to take seriously all the loons on the planet.

    Just too damn many loons.

    So, whether we should take all of you seriously or not, we assuredly won’t, because it is physically impossible — human lifetimes are just not long enough.

    But we can enjoy laughing at you.

    You don’t like that? C’est la vie.

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    , @Ron Unz
  1078. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright wrote to me:

    You try to twist this to say something else, but it doesn’t. It says that two-thirds of Americans were already willing to go to war by April 1941 — and things got worse over that summer and fall.

    And roughly a third were not willing to go to war, even if the result was an Axis victory.

    You initially wrote:

    The isolationists were on the fringe; they weren’t the consensus.

    According to the source I cited, in the summer of 1940, the non-interventionists (they were not “isolationists” — that is a maliciously false smear term) were a strong majority: they were far from being a “fringe.” At that point, the warmongers were the “fringe.”

    Yes, public opinion was shifting in 1941 due to intense propaganda from the ruling pro-British elite.

    But could FDR go to war with a third of the country still strongly opposed?

    That was a real problem for FDR.

    Which explains why he told his top aides twelve days before the attack on Pearl that “it was important that Japan be maneuvered into firing the first shot…”

    FDR needed that maneuver to unify the country into going to war.

    And, we all know it worked.

    I’m from the Show-Me-State: you can take the boy out of the Midwest, but you can’t take the Midwest out of the boy! The Midwest was the heart of the anti-interventionist sentiment: as a boy, I still heard the complaints about FDR pushing us into war. As late as the ’96 Presidential campaign, Bob Dole complained about all the “Democrat wars.” Dole, like me, was of course a son of the Midwest.

    By the way, you may want to look at John Koster’s Operation Snow: How a Soviet Mole in FDR’s White House Triggered Pearl Harbor. Koster makes a credible case that Harry Dexter White — who was almost certainly a Soviet asset, though it is not clear if he was technically a spy, and he was probably not an ideological Communist — maneuvered the Japanese into attacking in order to save the Soviets.

    It is an interesting thesis.

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  1079. @Truth Vigilante

    Our NeverTrumper Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote:

    Of course Fizzy-cyst Dovid, seeing as he’s a dyed-in-the-wool MAGAt, will never condone this.
    Dovid Miller is doing his damnedest to make sure ZOG sock puppet Donald J Chump gets a second term, so that the remainder of ZOG’s agenda can be implemented.

    Don’t be a chump like Dovid Miller. Always vote for the third party/independent candidate in future elections*.
    (*You can make an exception for economically literate Libertarians like Rand Paul and Thomas Massie).

    Both Rand Paul and Tom Massie are Republicans, like me, not members of the Libertarian Party. I don’t think you understand how the American political party system works, little fella.

    And both will end up voting for Trump, like me.

    My old friend Murray Rothbard liked to say that in dealing with political reality, it is not enough to spout ideological truisms: you also have to learn the actual facts about what is happening and make informed judgments accordingly.

    And the fact is that the ruling elite in the United States is trying to put the Donald in jail for the rest of his life, even though they have zero evidence against him. He would be acquitted in most of the country, but they have arranged to indict him in venues in which hatred of him is nearly universal.

    If they succeed, the American Republic is dead: it is hanging by a thread as it is.

    The difference between Trump and Biden is smaller than I would like.

    But supporting Trump is like supporting Julian Assange: I may disagree with Assange on many matters, but defending Assange matters in terms of defending freedom of the press.

    And defending Trump is much, much more critical: he is our era’s “Alfred Dreyfus”: Dreyfus was just an ordinary, mediocre military officer carrying out his duties. But the Dreyfus Affair ended up being critical to defending the French Republic.

    And the same is true of Trump: he is the last barrier against those who would destroy the American Republic.

    Which is why Rand Paul, Tom Massie, and I will all be voting for Donald Trump.

    By the way, the American Libertarian Party is not actually very libertarian: in 2016, the Libertarian Party nominated the liberal Republican Gary Johnson and the open neocon (!) William Weld. They are flirting with Bobby Kennedy, Jr. this year.

    In many ways, the GOP is, sadly, now more libertarian than the US Libertarian Party.

  1080. geokat62 says:
    @Wild Man

    No. Not mental masturbation. I’m dead serious that the ‘human’ category, trumps the ‘ethnic’ category (of any stripe), in every important way, by orders much greater than 1,000 fold. I explained how. You don’t get it, I guess. I’ll try again.

    Listen, WM. Instead of trying to explain it to me again, why don’t you try explaining it to that little white boy in the image I posted above who is surrounded by other children who are eager to be on the “westernism team,” as you so aptly put it.

    Tell that little boy he’s guilty of hubris and that he should be eagerly willing to partake in “westernism” with his fellow humans.

    I’ll leave you with this quote…

    “Demography is destiny.” – Auguste Comte

  1081. Wild Man says:
    @PhysicistDave

    “The whole reason for the success of modern science is that we prioritize investigating things in the real world over playing word games.”

    Yet you don’t even have the beginnings of a a definition of ‘real’. Is the real limiltess? You won’t say. It is you that is playing word games.

    “To paraphrase that great philosopher Popeye, I am what I claim I am and that’s all that I am: a person who does not know whether dualism or monism or whatever is true.

    I strongly suspect that the reality is much, much more complicated than is suggested by silly philosophers’ terms like dualism, monism, etc.”

    You got nothing at all to offer? No worthy perspective, at all, to share? You won’t even accept the illogic inherent to the dualist stance (it cannot be correct Dave). Can you not even go to square one, in your truth-seeking endeavors? Why the heck not?

    You keep skirting the consciousness conundrum. If you accept consciousness is fundamentally different than physicality …. as a physicist then, you got a big huge problem. Answer the fucking question already ….., to re-state again:

    As well, if you are a physicist that entertains dualism notions (as you do), …. then where do you suppose the source of the consciousness component of the dualism conundrum, comes from? Do living cells possess this ‘consciousness’? If they don’t, then how did that consciousness emerge, among humans let’s say, … as beings of the natural world comprised of a super-organization of an amalgamation of self/other differentiating living cells?

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  1082. @Truth Vigilante

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-five-fubars/
    The Five FUBARs

    The capper on today’s list is the nation’s health, the racketeering system we’ve set up to care for it, and the public health agencies of the government that enabled the Covid-19 operation to happen. The CDC continues to push vaccines that have killed millions of Americans and more millions around the world, and has probably compromised the well-being of millions more going forward. Corporate medicine — that is, your doctor, and your hospitals — is a sinking Titanic of grift and chaos. Try to get an appointment to even see a doctor for an emergency. Try to avoid being bankrupted by your treatment. Try to get out of a hospital alive. Yeah, it’s that bad.

    The doctors have surrendered your trust in them with their lying and their bullshit. The current director of the CDC, Mandy Cohen and her predecessor, Rochelle Walensky, have knowingly presided over the mass killing and injuries imposed on the mRNA vaccinated. Hundreds of their deputies should be liable for prosecution, and so should many of the other prominent characters in the Covid Saga: Fauci, Birx, Collins, Baric, Bourla, Daszak, Califf, Woodcock, Hahn, and many more.

    https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/fauci-admission
    Fauci Admits COVID mRNA Vaccines Do Not Work
    “America’s doctor” has admitted he was flat wrong. On Thursday, Dr. James Lyons-Weiler, writing on his Substack, Popular Rationalism, reported a stunning admission in a paper co-authored by Dr. Anthony Fauci.

    The upshot: mRNA vaccines are not effective in combating respiratory viruses. The Fauci paper, titled “Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses,” was published in the open source journal Cell Host & Microbe in January 2023…..
    While Fauci now concedes the failed efficacy of mRNA vaccines, he has remained silent on the continuing reports of adverse reactions following COVID vaccination.

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  1083. Wild Man says:
    @Tiptoethrutulips

    “Chocolate pudding and whip cream solves a lot of problems.”

    Sure. I think you mean to say: Slow down and enjoy yourself, with a woman, … who needs the slow-mode (slow-hand) from your over-stimulated libido. Of course I agree (because I know), … but we have been over all this already. I don’t think I am the one with a libido problem, and so … it is not over-stimulated (not too hot, not too cold, just right, … this libido of mine, … a sure sign of good health especially as man ages into his ’60s, …. I mean I don’t know anything at all about those little blue pills you reference – don’t need to fuck with my physiology like that, with this raging hard-on, on the ready, rising to the occasion, showing it’s presence, always). If there indeed is a libido problem, like that lurking about, somewhere in the periphery, of the exchange, … perhaps it has something to do with women tending to misrepresent what indeed is going on with men, psycho-sexually, normatively (like I already said)?

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  1084. Chebyshev says:
    @PhysicistDave

    They did address that issue in the summary to which I linked.

    Ok, they addressed the statement of one witness and then simply dismissed the more than 100 other first responder witnesses who heard explosions.

    Did you read the statements by the five firefighters at the bottom of the post I linked? Do you feel like the NIST report thoroughly debunked those guys’ claims that they heard two or more explosions that sounded like they could have been part of demolitions? How about the more than 3,000 architects and engineers who thought there was significant evidence that the buildings were taken down by controlled demolitions? The NIST didn’t show those guys to be idiots and loons, did they?

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  1085. @PhysicistDave

    ‘…By the way, you may want to look at John Koster’s Operation Snow: How a Soviet Mole in FDR’s White House Triggered Pearl Harbor. Koster makes a credible case that Harry Dexter White — who was almost certainly a Soviet asset, though it is not clear if he was technically a spy, and he was probably not an ideological Communist — maneuvered the Japanese into attacking in order to save the Soviets.’

    I’m aware of the role of Harry Dexter White. He seems to have played the same trick Bismarck did with the Ems Telegram; editing his master’s reply to make it less conciliatory and more provocative. In White’s case, the intent and effect was to convince the Japanese that no compromise over China was possible, encouraging them to opt for war.

    However, demonstrating White’s motives were questionable is not the same thing as demonstrating Roosevelt’s motives were. It wasn’t actually wrong to wish Japan to be as clearly painted as the aggressor as possible; nor was it wrong to wish to unite America as completely as possible before going to war.

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  1086. Those poor Roma!

    ‘Denmark’s tough laws on begging hit Roma women with few other options
    Members of the Roma minority face discrimination in Denmark. Those who turn to begging are criminalised…

    Isn’t ‘criminalising’ a Gypsy redundant? But in any case, I imagine the reader’s sympathy for the writer’s position would be inversely correlated with his familiarity with Gypsies.

    …in a country like Romania — which has a lot of Gypsies — the hatred is intense and frank. I remember traveling around Romania with some Romanians. One girl, every time she saw some Gypsies, would simply say ‘Gypsy. It was astonishing how much contempt and loathing she could pack into the enunciation of just that one word.

  1087. @Wild Man

    Chocolate pudding and whip cream solves problems only momentarily, and vicariously through a momentary lapse of reason. I think there’s this “life force” component in the cocoa.

    I mean I don’t know anything at all about those little blue pills you reference

    Well, you clearly do, judging by your response. However, the reference to little blue pills was not meant as a swipe at you, nor your libido. Speaking of libido, there does seem to be a life force component engrained in humans, (animals, too), and the nature/origin of instinctual impulses, much like the intricate nest building of weaver birds and the Bowerbird, who don’t learn by observation, is rather mysterious. Whence did it arrive to living organisms?

    There does seem to be an intelligence guiding life itself, of an all encompassing nature, but I don’t think the average physicist studies on the unknown, to the extent the unknown’s forces are not ad oculos, or otherwise perceptible. There is a definite force/mystery inherent to mathematics/geometry, which is astonishing even at the entry level, and I’m not speaking for PD, but perhaps the tangible is more within the purview of a physicist. I’m not certain the idea of – I just know it is so – works in hard science/academia, although many scientists have revealed they envisioned or felt the truth of something before they realized it in their proofs, i.e. Tesla. Personally, I think some individuals do just correctly know.

    I think you mean to say: Slow down and enjoy yourself, with a woman

    Yes, based on our previous commentary. You often seem to insinuate sexual underpinnings on topics wherein that supposition is odd to me. Having said that, I am mortified by modern relationship/dating/social moors, and you sometimes come across as perhaps lonely, and certainly disappointed by modern womanhood, and I can’t say I blame you.

    In my opinion, you are wrong about ideology trumps ethnicity, in general. Western civilization is a product of a western mind/soul, as is African civilization of Africans, and so on. Whilst we can’t blame every ill on outsiders, much of the ills in western civilization comes directly from the minds/souls of Jewry, which is exactly why western people have for centuries tried to rid them from their nations. And, modern (third wave) feminism is one such ill brought curtesy of Jewesses in western nations.

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  1088. @Colin Wright

    Hey, Colleen, someone predicted that Israel would be a detriment to the Middle East, as well as an insurmountable physical, emotional, financial, and spiritual drain on America/Europe, should they be given supremacy in this world.

    You can read all about it in Mein Kampf.

  1089. ‘…Biden’s backing of Israel with military assistance has also been met with opposition, with a Reuters/Ipsos found that 56 percent of Democrat respondents said they were “less likely to support a candidate who backs military assistance for Israel”…’

    If Biden continues to send arms to Israel — as I’m confident he will — it would seem reasonable to infer that his actual constituents aren’t those who were polled.

  1090. geokat62 says:
    @Colin Wright

    However, demonstrating White’s motives were questionable…

    Where there’s smoke there’s (sayan) fire…

    Excerpt from wiki:

    Harry Dexter White was born on October 29, 1892, in Boston, Massachusetts, the seventh and youngest child of Jewish Lithuanian immigrants, Jacob Weissnovitz (or Weit) and Sarah Magilewski, who had settled in the US in the 1880s.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Dexter_White

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  1091. geokat62 says:
    @Tiptoethrutulips

    In my opinion, you are wrong about ideology trumps ethnicity, in general. Western civilization is a product of a western mind/soul, as is African civilization of Africans, and so on. Whilst we can’t blame every ill on outsiders, much of the ills in western civilization comes directly from the minds/souls of Jewry, which is exactly why western people have for centuries tried to rid them from their nations. And, modern (third wave) feminism is one such ill brought curtesy of Jewesses in western nations.

    You’re one sharp cookie, T to the 4… kudos to you.

    • Thanks: Tiptoethrutulips
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  1092. geokat62 says:

    Excerpts from IHF Joins President Trump at Mar-A-Lago:

    In an expression of gratitude and solidarity, a Jewish delegation, led by Israel Heritage Foundation, met with President Trump at Mar-a-Lago this week. The meeting, which took place on Monday, February 26, demonstrates the foundation’s outreach towards those who support the Jewish people, advocate for Israel and combat antisemitism…

    The group presented President Trump with a beautiful silver menorah, with an attached proclamation that reads, “Hineni nosen lo es brisi shalom”, “Behold, I give to him my covenant of peace” (Bamidbar 25:12). They thanked the president for his ongoing and steady support for the Jewish State and the Jewish people, specifically citing the U.S. embassy move to Jerusalem, official recognition of the Golan Heights as being under Israel’s sovereignty, and the creation of the Abraham Accords, which maintained and strengthened peace in the Middle East and the world.

    http://wp.israelheritagefoundation.org/2024/02/28/ihf-joins-president-trump-at-mar-a-lago/

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  1093. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    They did address that issue in the summary to which I linked. Here is what they said:

    An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms.

    You really might want to look into the evidence more carefully. There were actually some 150 eyewitness reports, mostly from fire-fighters or other rescue-workers, who said they heard a long series of small explosions inside the WTC just before it collapsed. Given that most of them were trained professional rescue-workers, they certainly would have known the sound of explosions.

    As I discussed in an article last year, the late Prof. Graeme MacQueen gave an excellent presentation on all that very strong evidence that’s easily available for watching on the Internet. Here’s how I described it:

    Unfortunately, I have heard that this nuclear 9/11 theory has gradually become popular within some influential conservative and anti-establishment circles, and I wonder whether it has not been deliberately promoted by those who seek to make 9/11 Truthers look ridiculous.

    In sharp contrast, a few months ago I discovered a very sober and careful 2016 presentation by the late Prof. Graeme MacQueen to the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry in NYC, focusing upon the evidence provided in government records obtained via freedom of information requests. This released material included interviews of more than 150 eyewitnesses who mentioned hearing small explosions as the buildings collapsed, with some of them describing these as the sort of synchronized series of blasts used in demolition projects. This important testimony, overwhelmingly by first responders and rescue workers, was totally inconsistent with the official explanation that the collapses had been caused by office fires and therefore was completely ignored and excluded from the published government report. I should also note that all this powerful eyewitness evidence seems just as inconsistent with claims of a large nuclear explosion or an energy weapon.

    MacQueen was an important figure in the 9/11 Truth movement and his presentation was made to a distinguished audience, but the crucial information he provided lacked the “excitement” of a hypothetical nuclear blast or energy ray, so after four years the video has only attracted 822 views on Youtube and just five comments.

    The shocking reality that government investigators might simply ignore the contrary testimony of over 150 eyewitnesses, most of them experienced fire-fighters, becomes less implausible when one considers the parallel cover-up involving the mid-air explosion of TWA Flight 800 that had occurred a half-dozen years earlier in the same New York City area.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/remembering-the-9-11-truth-movement/

  1094. @Michael Korn

    Well put MK.

    The face masked police constable grabbing the young girl around the throat (top left in the graphic you posted in your comment), was from the Covid tyranny capital of Australia (ie: the socialist stronghold of Victoria, under the direction of head Kommisar Premier Dan Andrews).
    This is the actual video footage of that incident (1 min):

    The caption below the video reads:

    Victoria police have arrested and charged a young woman in Melbourne who was captured on video allegedly being choked and pinned to the ground by a police officer.
    In video footage posted initially on social media, the woman – who was subsequently found to have had an exemption for wearing a face mask – can be heard shouting “He’s choking me” as she was arrested on Wellington Street in Collingwood on Monday evening.
    The woman has been charged with resisting police and assaulting police and the arrest has been referred to an internal police review body, the Professional Standards Command.

  1095. @Ron Unz

    There were actually some 150 eyewitness reports, mostly from fire-fighters or other rescue-workers, who said they heard a long series of small explosions inside the WTC just before it collapsed.

    That’s exactly right Ron.

    UR readers, I ask you all to refer to the video Ron posted in comment # 1120, and watch the 20 secs or so starting at 9:50 (with the headline banner in the video of ‘Firefighters Zoda and Tardio’), and listen to what they say.

    Yet Fizzy-cyst Dovid says there were no explosions heard before the WTC towers and Bldg 7 collapsed.

    SUMMARY: With all the evidence I’ve presented about the mendacity of Fizzy-cyst Dovid, I cannot understand* why some of you are still cordial in your exchanges with this POS.
    This minion of the ADL/B’nai B’rith CONSTANTLY lies. He can’t help it. It’s part of his DNA.

    (*I allow some leeway for those among you that did not engage in the comments for the following UR thread from last year):
    https://www.unz.com/article/did-the-plowshares-program-set-the-stage-for-nuclear-terrorism-on-september-11/?showcomments#comments

    In that thread Fizzy-cyst Dovid is exposed** as being a liar by known individuals of integrity like Rurik, Orchardist, Bruce in Texas and numerous others – not least of which being the honest-t0-a-fault Mark Gaffney himself.

    (**Ron, WHY is it that all of the asinine comments of Fizzy-cyst Dovid are MISSING from that thread??? WHERE DID THEY GO???
    I recall that he made a ton of lame comments trying to defend the indefensible official USG/NIST fairy tale for how those building in NYC collapsed on 9/11).

    WHO erased them from the comments? Did you erase them because Fizzy Dov asked you to do that*?
    (*So as as not to leave a trail of deception for the time when the 9/11 Truth and Reconciliation Commission is convened in the coming years and Dovid Miller is prosecuted for LYING, AIDING AND ABETTING ZOG in the cover up of 9/11?)

    Also, here is an excerpt from comment # 499 in that Mark Gaffney thread, which once more exposed Fizzy-cyst Dovid is a disinfo peddler for claiming that the bogus report from Zdeněk Bažant that was used to justify the NIST conclusion, had any merit whatsover:

    ‘Take Bazant’s “pile-driver” paper for example, which has become the cornerstone of the defenders of the official story.
    When you parse the numbers of his proposed model, you’ll find he has exaggerated the potential energy available in the system by an incredible 90% in order to make the model work’.

    Lastly Ron, in relation to to your continued persistance in not accepting the DELUGE of evidence presented by Mark Gaffney, Iris, myself and and several others in that thread and previous UR threads, that nukes were used in the demolition of the WTC towers (NONE of which you have been able to refute), I guess it’s just a case of ‘Covid Psyop Syndrome’.
    In other words, just as with the Covid Psyop where you’ve seized upon the mindset that the vaxx was safe and effective and killed/injured very few, no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to convince you otherwise.

    That’s your choice to take Ron. But that sort of stubborness will prevent you from reaching the right conclusions until well after everyone else – as was the case with the 9/11 False Flag where 15 years elapsed before the penny dropped for you.

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  1096. @geokat62

    You’re one sharp cookie, T to the 4… kudos to you.

    Geokat, you’ve observed what many of us have noted on countless occasions in relation to the Tippy Toe lady.
    Her depth and breadth of knowledge in those UR threads dealing with WWII, the Holohoax and several other topics (coupled to the fact that she’s honest to a fault), have made her one of the go-to people in UR as far as objective and exhaustively researched analysis is concerned.

    Tip of the hat to you Tippy Toe lady, if you’re reading this, for all that you’ve done to enlighten us.

    • Thanks: Tiptoethrutulips
  1097. @geokat62

    The group [of Talmudic misfits] presented President Trump with a beautiful silver menorah ……They thanked the president for his ongoing and steady support for the Jewish State and the Jewish people, specifically citing the U.S. embassy move to Jerusalem, official recognition of the Golan Heights …. etc

    Geokat, you forgot to add on the end of that:

    ‘And for also ….. murdering General Qasem Soleimani, an act of treachery that could easily have precipitated a hot war with Iran’.

    Yes UR readers, this is the same Donald J Chump that Fizzy-cyst Dovid is always promoting as the saviour of America, as a stalwart for… [cough] … free speech.*

    (*Scroll up to comment # 528 in this thread and watch the 1 min video there. You can see for yourself what Donald Chump did to Julian Assange).

    Make no mistake, if you’re for Donald J Chump, you are also FOR INCARCERATION/TORTURE OF JULIAN ASSANGE until he be dead.

    Yet somehow the MAGAts like Fizzy-cyst Dovid can’t** work that out.

    (**Actually, Dovid Miller knows exactly what he’s doing. He knows that everything Donald Chump does is based on satisfying one criterion only.
    ie: IS IT GOOD FOR THE JEWS?).

  1098. @Ron Unz

    Ron Unz wrote to me:

    You really might want to look into the evidence more carefully. There were actually some 150 eyewitness reports, mostly from fire-fighters or other rescue-workers, who said they heard a long series of small explosions inside the WTC just before it collapsed. Given that most of them were trained professional rescue-workers, they certainly would have known the sound of explosions.

    No, they almost certainly wouldn’t have.

    A sound is just a sound — vibrations in the air. What that sound represents is often quite problematic. I doubt that even people who deal regularly with explosives can reliably tell the sound of an explosion from other similar sounds.

    And “professional rescue-workers”? What kind of training would they have in discriminating between the sound of explosions and other similar sounds? Why would they ever have had any such training at all? Is there any evidence that they did?

    NIST claims that the connections between various structural members snapped.

    That probably would have sounded, at least to some people, like “small explosions. ” A loud, sharp noise is a loud sharp noise.

    At least, that is what NIST claims in the summary to which I linked. And that claim is more than plausible.

    When I was a kid, a tire on my bicycle blew out on the Fourth of July. Sounded like a (loud) firecracker, and, at first, I was convinced that some jerk had thrown a firecracker under my bike. I’ve had dozens of flats on bicycles before and since — not a one sounded anything like that.

    Except there was no jerk around to have thrown the firecracker. The tire just blew. But is sounded like a (very small) explosion — like a large firecracker.

    “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” Occam’s razor indicates that the best guess is that the rescue workers heard connections between structural members snapping, making loud, sharp noises, and thought that sounded like small explosions.

    And it probably did sound like small explosions. Lots of things sound like small explosions — gunshots, a car backfiring, firecrackers, some big thing breaking, even my bike tire blowing.

    It would take a very, very careful investigation to find out if the rescue workers could discriminate between “small explosions” and the snapping of structural supports. I doubt anyone did that study. If anyone ever does do such a study, I doubt it will show that this is something at which random humans are skilled.

    Your article from last fall stated:

    This released material included interviews of more than 150 eyewitnesses who mentioned hearing small explosions as the buildings collapsed, with some of them describing these as the sort of synchronized series of blasts used in demolition projects.

    Is there any reason at all to believe that any of those witnesses had the ability to distinguish between the sound of small explosions that are part of controlled-demolition projects and the sounds that NIST plausibly claims occurred from structural supports snapping?

    And. no, it is not at all sufficient to say that some of the witnesses had experience with controlled demolition — the issue is whether they had experience distinguishing between the sounds of controlled demolition versus the sounds of structural supports snapping which NIST adduces.

    I’m doubtful any human being at all has that kind of experience.

    What goes on in these discussions is that people making conspiracy claims basically say, “Well, it is possible that such and such occurred, and it is the job of all you guys who are skeptical of our conspiracy claims to prove it didn’t happen.”

    That is idiotic, like the claims of fundamentalists that we skeptics somehow have to prove that Jesus did not walk on water or was not born of a Virgin. Yes, it is logically possible that space aliens brought down the Twin Towers. But if someone wants to claim that, it is not enough for them to simply point out that it is logically possible. They need more than that.

    Common sense is relevant here: we all agree that somehow some people intentionally engaged in criminal actions that brought down the Twin Towers — whether it was the plane collisions and the resulting fires or a planned demolition or whatever it was.

    Wouldn’t bringing down the Twin Towers be enough? Why go to the trouble to also bring down Building 7? Many hours later?

    On the face of it, that would actually weaken the plan to deceive people in terms of what was done to the Twin Towers. The delay of multiple hours would raise questions — as has indeed happened.

    It would be a stupidly pointless thing to do.

    Now, of course, I know the 911 Truthers have answers –God only how many “answers”! — insurance fraud or whatever.

    I don’t think any of those answers fits very well at all with any of the claims made about what brought down the Twin Towers. And it takes a fair amount of rather obvious work to put in the explosives for controlled demolition — there is not convincing evidence that was done for Building 7.

    The whole story just does not fit together.

    The story provided by NIST does fit together.

    Occam’s razor.

    Does that prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that the NIST story is correct?

    Well, as Aristotle said, one should not expect more precision in any area of inquiry than is inherent to that area of inquiry.

    The 911 attack was a “one-off”: we cannot redo the experiment as we usually can in science.

    The level of certainty that is normally attainable in physics is intrinsically impossible here.

    But… a building was collapsing and a bunch of people heard a bunch of loud bangs?

    When a structure is coming apart, would anyone be surprised that there are a bunch of very loud noises?

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    As your essay last fall makes clear, the 911 Truthers have made utter fools of themselves.

    But they cannot give up, any more than fundamentalists can give up on their belief that Jesus really was born of a Virgin.

    It is impossible to ever know with certainty what happened on 911. But a betting man would be wise to go with the official story.

    Now… what did the CIA, FBI, NSA, MI6, Mossad, etc. know both before and after about the events of 911?

    That is a more interesting question! The attempts by the 911 families to get the US government to disgorge everything it has on deeper Saudi involvement give us good reason to suspect that the government has not been fully transparent.

    That is where a betting man would look for a possible cover-up.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
    , @Ron Unz
  1099. @Ron Unz

    Ron, in relation to the Mark Gaffney article that appeared in UR last year titled ‘Did the Plowshares Program Set the Stage for Nuclear Terrorism on September 11?’, and my observation that all of Fizzy-cyst Dovid’s comments has been PURGED, I did some further investigation.

    I recalled that it had dozens of comments of my own where I replied to Fizzy-cust Dovid’s phony assertions, and I CAN’T FIND A SINGLE EFF’N ONE IF THEM.

    Now, I haven’t looked at every single comment in that thread individually. I just scrolled up and down quickly several times.
    But, in the process of doing so, I couldn’t see a single comment where people like Rurik, Iris, Mark Gaffney and several others (ie: scores of comments from these individuals replying to Dovid Miller), where they have also responded to some falsehood posted by Fizzy-cyst Dovid.
    These comments also appear to have disappeared into the ether.

    WHAT THE EFF IS GOING ON HERE RON??

    Ron, please don’t tell me that Dovid Miller didn’t participate in that thread, because I know of several admissions he made elsewhwere acknowledging that he did. Like these comments below made in recent days:

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/open-thread-8/#comment-6449189

    In that comment above Fizzy Dovid wrote:

    You think we are somehow obligated to take seriously every single crack-pot who proposes some idiotic theory, like Mark Gaffney’s loony nuclear explosion theory?

    What about this comment from Dovid also:

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/open-thread-8/#comment-6445585

    An excerpt from the comment above:

    As to Building 7… well, I got into this discussion when Ron Unz asked me to comment on Mark Gaffney’s bizarre claims about the Twin Tower collapse. I have not noticed as many bizarrely crack-pot theories about Building 7 …..

    Meanwhile, we come to this other article posted by Mark Gaffney last year in UR that I recall extensively participating in:

    https://www.unz.com/audio/kbarrett_mark-gaffney-on-the-demolition-of-the-world-trade-center/

    I looked through EVERY comment in that thread and I’m NOWHERE TO BE FOUND (although this thread differs from the last one from Gaffney, in that at least some of Fizzy Dov’s comments are still present).
    I recall posting numerous eviscerations of the nonsense that Dovid Miller wrote, by furnishing emphatic proofs of the events of 9/11, yet none of them are there.
    In fact, I see that there are ONLY 35 comments listed in that thread, although I recall there being a hell of a lot more at the time. Once again ….

    WHAT THE EFF IS GOING ON HERE ?????

    WHY were my comments (and those of others) purged from the system ???

  1100. @Wild Man

    Wild Man wrote to me:

    [Dave] “The whole reason for the success of modern science is that we prioritize investigating things in the real world over playing word games.”

    [WM] Yet you don’t even have the beginnings of a a definition of ‘real’. Is the real limiltess? You won’t say. It is you that is playing word games.

    Well, you see… for thousands of years, philosophers and theologians have played the sort of game you are trying to get me to play here: to “have the beginnings of a a definition of ‘real’.”

    And they went round and round in circles century after century, millennium after millennium.

    And then, in the sixteenth century, science came along. And we stopped even trying to get “a definition of ‘real’.” We just said, in effect, “Ah — to hell with all that!”

    And, instead, we just started looking at things — at the planets, at beetles, at rocks and stones, at the Sun, at rose bushes, etc. — and tried to figure out what those things were made of and how they worked.

    Things over words.

    And that has been a wild success, far, far more than any reasonable expectation.

    Nope, we certainly do not have — nor do we have any plans to get — “even… the beginnings of a a definition of ‘real’.” That has proven to be a colossal waste of time.

    What we do have is an understanding of how the planets move, what makes the Sun shine, what rocks and stones are made of and how they came into existence, and, indeed, of how rose bushes work (hint: no “life force” needed).

    You have made clear that you want us to play your game of trying to get “even…the beginnings of a a definition of ‘real’.”

    That is an example of the word games we do not intend to play.

    WM also asked me:

    [Dave] To paraphrase that great philosopher Popeye, I am what I claim I am and that’s all that I am: a person who does not know whether dualism or monism or whatever is true.

    I strongly suspect that the reality is much, much more complicated than is suggested by silly philosophers’ terms like dualism, monism, etc.

    [WM] You got nothing at all to offer? No worthy perspective, at all, to share? You won’t even accept the illogic inherent to the dualist stance (it cannot be correct Dave). Can you not even go to square one, in your truth-seeking endeavors? Why the heck not?

    As Wittgenstein said in the final sentence of the Tractatus, “Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.”

    You want us to bullshit.

    We are just not into bullshitting. Too bad.

    Earlier, you wrote:

    Yet you don’t know, by way of physics, whether reality is limitless, or not. Suppose it is? Then, you must conclude, that when one tries to make their thoughts conform with reality, …. potentially then a limitless reality, …. one is faced with a conundrum: How can a limited agent (like a human with 5-9 items of working short term memory, for instance) understand, with any modicum of certainty, the ‘limitless reality’ (which you will note I have been using as a synonym for ‘God’), beyond just a stance of ‘a narrow very-low resolution and glitchy and probably wrong-headed understanding, relative to the limitations of the human perspective’?

    The natural numbers (1,2,3…) are limitless; yet, with my little limited brain, I am able to grasp many interesting things about the natural numbers.

    For example, I know that no matter how far out you go, you will never find non-zero integers x, y,, z, such that x^n + y^n = z^z, if n is an integer greater than 2 (the Wiles-Taylor theorem, AKA Fermat’s Last Theorem).

    Guess my limited mind can grasp lots of stuff about unlimited things, eh?

    Maybe not your mind, though.

    You also wrote earlier:

    If a natural scientist is to always give consideration to the viewpoint that reality is limitless, then he must conclude that, if true, he will never ever be able to make his thoughts conform to such a reality, …. and therefore, said natural scientist (you in this case) must commence the operation of conjecture-spinning and testing (a method of now having ‘reality conform to thoughts’, as you say), …. which is precisely the method that the natural scientists have used so successfully with respect to ‘reality-uncovering’.

    Nope.

    As I just showed, my little mind can indeed grasp limitless things.

    Pretty cool, eh?

    You also wrote:

    [Dave] “I do not in fact think “that it’s impossible to know how the universe was created and whether or not divine beings exist.” I don’t know for sure, but I do not think it is necessarily impossible to know.”

    [WM] Could you clarify please. Do you mean that in terms of the consideration that reality may indeed by limitless? (Or are you here just pointing to the potential for a ‘limited reality’ to render these questions as answerable?). If it is the former, … for the life of me, ….. I cannot see how it would be ever possible to know the true nature of limitless reality, from the limited human perspective

    Oh, you can’t see that, because you are completely uneducated (yes, I know you spent years in school — but you were not educated!) and really not very bright!

    You also wrote:

    The type of dualism we are discussing (which is outside of the dualisms of your physics examples) is illogical because you must The type of dualism we are discussing (which is outside of the dualisms of your physics examples) is illogical because you must impose a way for the two such fundamental categories (mind or consciousness/the physical) to interact, …. which means these would not be two separate fundamental categories. Monism it must be., …. which means these would not be two separate fundamental categories. Monism it must be.

    Nope.

    I do not have to “impose a way for the two such fundamental categories (mind or consciousness/the physical) to interact…”

    The world is what it is: I do not need to impose anything.

    Look: I know that countless philosophers have made the claim you are making here: this is one of oh-so-many reasons that we scientists tend to believe that the vast majority of philosophers are very, very dimwitted indeed.

    Sunlight and a plant are obviously very, very different things: You can hold a plant or part of a plant in your hand; you cannot hold a sunbeam in your hand. You can chew on part of a plant; you cannot chew on a sunbeam. You can weigh a plant on a scale; you cannot do that with a sunbeam.

    And on and on and on.

    Nonetheless, plants and sunbeams do interact, you know: that is what happens in photosynthesis. And we understand in great detail how that works.

    Why should matter and consciousness be any different?

    Yes, yes, I know: you find that to be illogical.

    Well, the word “logic” actually means something: first-order predicate logic, classical Aristotelian syllogistic logic, modal logic, etc.

    Exactly which basic principle of logic would be violated by consciousness interacting with matter?

    Yeah, yeah, I know: it just plain seems illogical to you!

    Does it ever occur to you that, just maybe, you are not the measure of all things?

    You want an example of how consciousness could logically interact with matter?

    Okay, let C be the (probably multi-component) quantum field for consciousness. Let M be (some no doubt composite) quantum field representing matter.

    Add an interaction term to the Lagrangian, g*C*M, where g is the coupling constant between consciousness and matter.

    See? Easy-peasy!

    But you have no idea what I am talking about because you are uneducated.

    So, you will just have to take my word for the fact that this could be how matter and consciousness interact, now won’t you?

    Unless and until you choose to get an education.

    Is this how consciousness and matter actually interact?

    I have no idea — it might be.

    But it does show that it is logically possible.

    You want to show that it is illogical — by all means tell us all what principle of logic it violates.

    And, no, the fact that your severely limited mind cannot grasp it does not count!

    Things over words.

  1101. @Truth Vigilante

    Our NeverTrumper Truth ‘the Fed’ Vigilante wrote about me:

    Yet Fizzy-cyst Dovid says there were no explosions heard before the WTC towers and Bldg 7 collapsed.

    I did? When?

    The Fed also wrote:

    (**Ron, WHY is it that all of the asinine comments of Fizzy-cyst Dovid are MISSING from that thread??? WHERE DID THEY GO???
    I recall that he made a ton of lame comments trying to defend the indefensible official USG/NIST fairy tale for how those building in NYC collapsed on 9/11).

    WHO erased them from the comments? Did you erase them because Fizzy Dov asked you to do that*?
    (*So as as not to leave a trail of deception for the time when the 9/11 Truth and Reconciliation Commission is convened in the coming years and Dovid Miller is prosecuted for LYING, AIDING AND ABETTING ZOG in the cover up of 9/11?)

    Your memory is failing you, little fella.

    I never commented on that thread, did not even know that it existed until just now.

    As Ron Unz wrote in that thread:

    It’s too bad that “PhysicistDave” hasn’t been on this website recently.

    See? And you know you can believe Ron, now don’t you?

    Or do you think Ron too is a heroic Agent of ZOG? Will you take my word for it that he’s not?

    Above you wrote:

    UR readers, do I need to spell it out for you and join the dots for you?
    It is CLEAR that Fizzy-cyst Dovid is a MINION OF ZOG, that he is peddling disinfo on behalf of his (((tribe))).
    FFS, by is own admission, he conceded that he worked for the CIA in the past. Can it be any more obvious how compromised this sad sack of a man really is?

    Nope — that is just one more of your lies.

    I never worked for the CIA and never said I worked for the CIA.

    Or maybe it is just one more example of your “diminishing mental faculties,” eh?

    Have you taken a cognitive test lately, little fella?

    Did you pass?

    Can you remember?

    You do know how we are all concerned about your health, don’t you?

    Your friendly neighborhood heroic Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  1102. @Chebyshev

    Chebyshev wrote to me:

    Ok, they addressed the statement of one witness and then simply dismissed the more than 100 other first responder witnesses who heard explosions.

    NIST acknowledged that there were sounds that sounded like explosions: NIST claimed that other effects than explosions produced these sounds.

    NIST did not try to dismiss anyone who claimed to hear explosions: NIST just claimed the loud sharp noises that were heard were not actually explosions.

    See my response to Ron where I addressed this in more detail.

    Cheb also asked:

    Do you feel like the NIST report thoroughly debunked those guys’ claims that they heard two or more explosions that sounded like they could have been part of demolitions? [emphasis added]

    The point is your word “could”: they could have been sounds of explosions. Or perhaps not.

    Cheb also asked:

    How about the more than 3,000 architects and engineers who thought there was significant evidence that the buildings were taken down by controlled demolitions?

    As I keep saying, I have had several architects in my family.

    Architects know next to nothing about the mechanics of building collapse.

    The same is true of most structural engineers: they specialize in making sure that buildings are built so they will not collapse, not the details of how they do collapse when they fail.

    As I said above, if my old acquaintance, Professor Hung Leung “David” Wong of the University of Southern California, who is an expert on structural stability under earthquakes, told me that the NIST report is hogwash, then I would change my opinion.

    But he hasn’t.

    He is actually an expert on this stuff, as is Zdeněk Bažant.

    I see no evidence that the members of AE911Truth are experts on building collapse — quite the contrary in fact since my little pal Truth Vigilante assures me that they all back the idiotic claim that gravity-driven collapse violates Newton’s Third Law of Motion.

    If he is right about that, they all should have been flunked out of high-school physics.

    Every. Single. One, Of. Them.

    Cheb also asked:

    The NIST didn’t show those guys to be idiots and loons, did they?

    NIST didn’t have to. They soiled themselves.

  1103. @PhysicistDave

    Well UR readers, if its wasn’t abundantly obvious before, SURELY NOW there can be no doubting it.
    Only a MALEVOLENT JEW goes to these extremes in defence of the (((tribe))).
    I mean, just look at the things Fizzy-cyst Dovid says in his comment, clutching at straws by conjuring up a fake story about the day his bicycle tyre exploded. (All the while hoping and praying to his Talmudic God, that we’ll be convinced by this demonstration of ‘sincerity’ ).
    Surely UR readers, how could anyone accuse him of mendacity after that?
    I mean, there has never been a precedent in recorded history where any story involving a punctured bicycle tyre has ever been proven to be false.

    In response to Ron Unz’s verifiable assertion that 150 eyewitnesses heard a series of explosions before the WTC buildings collapsed, Fizzy Dov assures us that EVERY EFF’N ONE of those 150 eyewitnesses has never had ‘training that would have enabled them to discriminate between the sound of explosions and other similar sounds’.

    I mean, Dovid Miller was not in NYC on that day.
    Dovid never met a SINGLE one of these eyewitnesses.
    Dovid never looked into the background of ANY of these people (statistically a certain portion would have served in the Armed Forces at some point in their past, and more than a few may well have had actual combat experience (seeing as the 1991 Gulf War was only a decade prior).

    But SOMEHOW, PERHAPS THROUGH DEVINE INTERVENTION, Dovid Miller KNOWS FOR SURE that ALL of these eyewitnesses did NOT hear actual explosions.

    And, as for the component of eyewitnesses that never did military service, that never heard an explosion of military ordnance up close in their whole lives, according Dovid Miller all of them are stupid rubes.
    Only he, an alumnus from Sanford and Son university, knows what an actual explosion sounds like.
    Because that’s what they teach in Fizzics 101 – today we learn to distingusih between a real explosion and a fake one.

    Dovid Miller goes on to write:

    NIST claims that the connections between various structural members snapped.

    That probably would have sounded, at least to some people, like “small explosions. ” A loud, sharp noise is a loud sharp noise.

    That’s right readers, ALL loud sharp noises sound the same. (Even though they trained soldiers in Vietnam to distinguish the different sounds made by the firing of the M16 rifle, as used by U.S servicemen, and the AK47, the weapon of choice used by the NVA and the Vietcong),
    But, according to Dovid Miller, all loud sharp sounds are the same.
    Remember, Dovid is ‘The Science’, in the same way that Tony Fauci was The Science during the Covid Psyop and Bill Nye was The Science in relation to the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax.

    And, as we all know, ‘The Science’ never gets it wrong (even if it’s pseudoscience, like Dovid is propagating).

    Now, getting back to NIST’s claims that ‘various structural members snapped’, the fact is there are dozens of load bearing structural members that supported the bulk of the weight of each of these buildings.
    And if some of these structural members snapped first, even if only a couple of seconds before members on the other side of the building also snapped by some miraculous ‘alignment of the planets’ coincidence, THE BUILDING WOULD LEAN OVER TO ONE SIDE and fall in the direction where the members gave out first.

    THE ONLY WAY THAT A TALL BUILDING CAN COLLAPSE INTO ITS OWN FOOTPRINT, IS IF ALL LOAD BEARING STRUCTURAL SUPPORTS WERE SEVERED SYNCHRONOUSLY*.

    (*That ONLY occurs in a pre-planned controlled demolition).
    Asymmetrical damage to a building can NEVER LEAD TO A SYMMETRICAL COLLAPSE into its own footprint.

    Europe’s leading controlled demolition expert, Danny Jowenko was asked for his opinion on what he thought brought down WTC7 (ie: Building 7), on the afternoon of 9/11. This is what he said (2 min video):

  1104. @PhysicistDave

    I never worked for the CIA and never said I worked for the CIA.

    What difference does it make whether it was the CIA, NSA DHS or any other three letter agency that comprises the ZOG controlled MISSS (Military Industrial Security Surveillance State).
    You said you worked for one of them, don’t pretend you didn’t.

    I can embarrass you like I did to Nicelamb (the Jewish sayan that pretends that he’s from Iceland), over his lies that he never shilled on behalf of the establishment during the Covid Psyop.
    Go ahead Dovid, tells us now you never worked for any Government agency (be that in a full time capacity or through contract work), that was part of the network of spooks and/or the Military.

  1105. Mark G. says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Lots of people work for the military. That doesn’t make them an agent of ZOG. I work in accounting for the military. Most people working for the military, including me, are not Jews. At the top of the DoD sits Lloyd Austin, an affirmative action black hire.

    When Ron Paul ran in the Republican primaries, he received more political donations from military members than any other Republican. Paul thought Muslims were behind 9/11 and it was blowback from us being over in their countries. Paul was formerly in the military too. Is he an agent of ZOG?

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  1106. @Truth Vigilante

    His PhD is from SLAC at Stanford. That pretends to be an independent research institute, but it is wholly funded by the Department of “Energy” that oversees all US nuclear weapons and military nuclear applications. Dovid is MISSS’s Bitch all the way.

  1107. @Mark G.

    Lots of people work for the military. That doesn’t make them an agent of ZOG.
    [Ron] Paul was formerly in the military too.

    There is a difference between the grunts that actually do the fighting (and dying) and those that run the Military Industrial Security Surveillance State (MISSS) who PROFIT from the endless wars.
    (((Those))) that profit from it never send their progeny to do the fighting.
    Dr Ron Paul, as I’ve heard him say on numerous occasions, was DRAFTED into military service in the 1960’s. He didn’t voluntarily decide to enlist.

    Now, in relation to Fizzy-cyst Dovid, he does nothing out of patriotism. For him it’s all about the Franklins, and he’s demonstrated that he’ll bend over and allow himself to be sodomised to the highest bidder.
    Now Mark, I’ll forgive you for saying what you have because you have likely not been following even a small fraction of the asinine remarks that Fizzy-cyst Dovid has posted (not just in this thread but in many 9/11 related UR threads, where he NEVER MISSES AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEFLECT BLAME AWAY FROM ZOG ORCHESTRATION OF THESE CRIMES).

    If you were familiar with even a fraction of the apologia he’s posted trying to defend ZOG malfeasance, you would not be standing in his corner trying to defend him.

    Lastly, you didn’t get the following statement exactly right, or at least relay the full thrust of Ron Paul’s achievement:

    When Ron Paul ran in the Republican primaries, he received more political donations from military members than any other Republican.

    In the 2012 GOP primaries, Dr Ron Paul got more donations from active duty military personnel (ie: the ones doing the actual fighting and dying), than ALL of the other GOP candidates COMBINED.
    (So not just a case of beating the second placed GOP candidate. What Dr Paul did was comparable to George Galloway’s demolition of his opponents in the recent British by-election that sees him returning to Parliament).
    Moreover, Dr Paul got more donations for his campaign than even the INCUMBENT President Obama !!

    That’s because the actual soldiers doing the fighting knew that all these wars are B.S. They knew thay were not defending the homeland. They’re defending the interests of the ZOG banking cartel and the Apartheid Israeli state.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @Anon
    , @Curle
  1108. @geokat62

    ‘…Where there’s smoke there’s (sayan) fire…

    Excerpt from wiki:…’

    That’s interesting. I had White mentally filed as gentile, somehow.

    It’s morbidly comic how the more closely you look, the worse it gets. It’d be so nice if it were the other way, too.

  1109. Ron Unz says:
    @PhysicistDave

    And “professional rescue-workers”? What kind of training would they have in discriminating between the sound of explosions and other similar sounds? Why would they ever have had any such training at all? Is there any evidence that they did?

    NIST claims that the connections between various structural members snapped.

    That probably would have sounded, at least to some people, like “small explosions. ” A loud, sharp noise is a loud sharp noise.

    I dunno. If more than 150 experienced, professional fire-fighters and rescue-workers say that they heard a series of explosions inside the WTC just before it collapsed, I tend to take their statements very seriously.

    It also seems *extremely* suspicious that all their eyewitness testimony was left out of the official NIST report and was only later discovered through FOIA filings.

    Leading demolitions experts who were shown a film of the collapse of Building 7 without being told what it was said it was obviously a controlled-demolition using explosives, and an absolutely first-rate job.

    Reputable academics who who examined the remains said they found obvious traces of nano-thermite, a military grade explosive.

    Roughly 200 Mossad agents were quickly rounded up by the FBI, most of them in the New York City area, with five of them caught filming the burning WTC towers and celebrating their very successful operation, though all of them eventually released back to Israel under enormous political pressure.

    In 2006, a high-ranking former CIA official publicly declared that the official 9/11 story was a total pack of lies and fully endorsed the 9/11 Truth movement, while a top German official responsible for intelligence matters said much the same thing. A former president of Italy said that “everyone” knew that Mossad and the CIA had actually been responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

    All we have on the other side is an official NIST report that deliberately excluded all of the massive eyewitness testimony and other contrary evidence.

    I’ve discussed all of this many times in my various articles, most recently the one from last year:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/remembering-the-9-11-truth-movement/

  1110. In case anyone still thinks Britain has freedom of speech…

  1111. Ron Unz says:

    After six months, this current Open Thread had accumulated well over 1,100 comments totaling more than 250,000 words and has become sluggish. Therefore, I’m starting a new open thread, and kicking it off by duplicating my previous comment:

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/open-thread-9/

  1112. Mark G. says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    When you quoted me you left out the sentence where I said Ron Paul thought 9/11 was caused by Muslims due to blowback from us being over there in their countries. Your selective quoting shows dishonesty on your part.

    Since he said that rather than blaming the Jews, does that make him an agent of ZOG? You are being evasive in not answering that when I asked you before so I am asking you again.

    If your theory instead is that Ron Paul will not say it is the Jews because he is a coward afraid to speak the truth, then I would disagree with that. Ron Paul is a very brave man.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  1113. @MIchael Korn

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAC_National_Accelerator_Laboratory
    SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory, originally named the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center,[2][3] is a federally funded research and development center in Menlo Park, California, United States. Founded in 1962, the laboratory is now sponsored by the United States Department of Energy and administrated by Stanford University. It is the site of the Stanford Linear Accelerator, a 3.2 kilometer (2-mile) linear accelerator constructed in 1966 that could accelerate electrons to energies of 50 GeV.

    Today SLAC research centers on a broad program in atomic and solid-state physics, chemistry, biology, and medicine using X-rays from synchrotron radiation and a free-electron laser as well as experimental and theoretical research in elementary particle physics, astroparticle physics, and cosmology. The laboratory is under the programmatic direction of the United States Department of Energy Office of Science.

    See also: https://news.stanford.edu/report/2022/08/24/stanford-signs-new-five-year-contract-manage-slac-national-accelerator-laboratory/

  1114. Curle says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Now, in relation to Fizzy-cyst Dovid, he does nothing out of patriotism. For him it’s all about the Franklins, and he’s demonstrated that he’ll bend over and allow himself to be sodomised to the highest bidder.

    Not sure how you’d know something like that. I think you are mistaken if you imagine that PD isn’t generally held in high regard among readers of this blog. I’m confident that he is making your complaints appear as overconfidence.

    Moreover, Dr Paul got more donations for his campaign than even the INCUMBENT President Obama !!

    Numbers of donations don’t win elections or didn’t back in the pre-woke days. The total dollar amount of donations was much more significant at that time as proved the case in Dr Paul’s contest. Being the favorite of the people running the state parties was also more suggestive of victory back then than numbers of donations. The world changed in favor of outsiders like Paul when George Floyd was lionized, Confederate statues were demolished, we were all shamed for supporting law enforcement, our border laws were ignored and we saw the Deep State take down a president. The boomer normie world died in a few short years never to return.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  1115. @MIchael Korn

    MIchael Korn, who has repeatedly claimed to be mentally ill, wrote to Truth Vigilante:

    [Dave’s] PhD is from SLAC at Stanford. That pretends to be an independent research institute, but it is wholly funded by the Department of “Energy” that oversees all US nuclear weapons and military nuclear applications. Dovid is MISSS’s Bitch all the way.

    Everyone may want to know that Michael Korn claims to be a nephew of the Nobel laureate Burt Richter, discoverer of the charm quark, whom I knew and for whom I worked for one summer at SLAC.

    And, most importantly, Mike has repeatedly vented his intense hatred towards his Uncle Burt.

    Which may explain his deception here.

    To the best of my knowledge, there has never been any work or research on nuclear weapons carried out at SLAC.

    Not a bit.

    SLAC was created to do fundamental research in elementary-particle physics — the charm quark, the tau lepton, that sort of thing.

    This has no application to nuclear weapons.

    So why does Michael want you to think otherwise?

    I suppose his excuse, as he has repeatedly reminded us, is that he is mentally ill.

    Michael is of Jewish descent, but he converted to Christianity some time ago and has vented his deep hatted of all of us who are not Christians.

    Specifically, he wrote this above (see here):

    The problem for you and all your atheist buddies is that death will not be the end of your misery but only the beginning of it. That’s because you will be raised from the dead and forced to make a most awkward embarrassing and uncomfortable account of your life to our Creator. And then you will spend eternity in the Lake of fire. At least you’ll be good for something as we enjoy watching you suffer for your crimes.

    I’m sure that everyone here will agree that this is truly very sweet!

    I mean, wouldn’t you want to have this guy as a next-door neighbor?

    Anyone wonder why Michael Korn didn’t get along well with his Uncle Burt (who was a very nice fellow)?

    • Replies: @Anon
  1116. @Mark G.

    If your theory instead is that Ron Paul will not say it is the Jews [that orchestrated the 9/11 False Flag] because he is a coward afraid to speak the truth, then I would disagree with that.
    Ron Paul is a very brave man.

    I agree, Dr Ron Paul is a gutsy bloke. But he’s also not a fool.

    What I’m about to write is something I’ve posted before on at least a few occasions, but you evidently missed it. So here goes again.
    Now, I’m not privy to conversations Ron Paul has had behind closed doors. Perhaps he confronted his loved ones in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and said something like:
    ‘I’m an old guy and don’t have that many years remaining. So I’m going to come out and tell the world that Mossad orchestrated the 9/11 False Flag. So if there’s a risk they’ll kill me, I’ll take that chance’.

    Well, Senator Paul Wellstone said he was going to launch a Congressional investigation into 9/11 in 2002, and this is what happened soon thereafter:

    ‘(((They))) killed him, his wife, his daughter and a few of his staff members for good measure’.

    No doubt after that, many of Ron Paul’s advisors and family members said coming out on 9/11 won’t achieve much if they kill you. They no doubt said to Dr Paul that he was worth more alive than dead.
    And SO IT PROVED TO BE.

    Since his retirement Dr Paul launched the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity, has made over 2000 episodes of the Ron Paul Liberty Report, has made countless speeches at conferences and made interviews everywhere** (get ready for Tucker Carlon’s interview with Dr Paul that is coming out verrrry soon).

    Ron Paul has done far more good being alive these last 10-15 years, spreading the message about the need to End the Fed, the need to end the murderous U.S foreign policy, being the FIRST HIGH PROFILE POLITICIAN IN THE WORLD (past or present), to come out and call the Covid Psyop a hoax. (He did that literally within a week or two after the hysteria began in March 2020 and Trump locked down the U.S).
    I am glad Dr Paul did not come out and speak his mind on 9/11, because we would’ve been deprived of the immense good work he’s done in the interim.

    SUMMARY: Whether it be Dr Ron Paul, Julian Assange, Glenn Greewald, Tucker Carlson or whoever, THEY ALL KNOW ZOG PERPETRATED THE 9/11 False Flag.

    Now, you can get away with saying that the CIA killed JFK as Tucker Carlson did, because ZOG can easily deflect blame away from themselves by saying: ‘Well, some rogue entities in the CIA 60 years took ot upon themselves to kill Jack Kennedy, but that has nothing to do with us’.
    (Of course we know that the CIA, Britain’s MI6 and the Mossad were, from DAY 1, agencies that were created at the behest of ZOG and that read from a ZOG dictated script right up to the present day).

    But to say that ZOG orchestrated 9/11 is a bridge too far. If you do that ZOG will kill you and/or your loved ones.
    ZOG has demonstrated that they will do that, these Talmuudic misfits are that depraved.

    Simply put, it’s one thing to be all gung ho and say ‘I’m not afraid to die for my country’, it’s yet another thing to endanger your progeny/grandchilden and great-grandchildren, as Dr Paul has in abundance.
    That’s why Julian Assange (when he was free), Glenn Greenwald, Tucker Carlson and the rest, will never come out and say the truth about 9/11.
    Because it’s an INSTANT death sentence.

    Mark G, it amazes me that I have to be saying this to you. You’re a pretty smart bloke, so I thought you could have worked that out for yourself.

    BTW, I’ve watched nearly every one of the 2000 plus Ron Paul Liberty Reports, and Dr Paul has flirted with danger on several occasions by saying stuff like:

    ‘Hmmm, those anamolies about Building 7 on 9/11, it makes you wonder’, and numerous other things related to Bldg 7.
    You can bet London to a brick that Dr Paul knows EXACTLY what happened that day. He’s no fool.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  1117. @Curle

    Curly (I assume you use that handle because your resemble one of the Three Stooges), writes:

    I think you are mistaken if you imagine that PD isn’t generally held in high regard among readers of this blog.

    No, I’m not mistaken at all. Everyone with integrity that his witnessed Fizzy-cyst Dovid’s outrageous lies/distortions/misdirections in those 9/11 related threads, where Dovid argues on behalf of the preposterous USG/NIST explanation for how the WTC buildings came down on 9/11, will know that he will stoop to any depths to deflect attention away from his Talmudic masters and benefactors.

    If you can’t see this Curly, then you lack critical thinking faculties.
    Now Curly, I know nothing about you and have NEVER seen your input in any of the UR threads that deal with substantive issues (eg: JFK coup d’etat, 9/11, the Covid Psyop, Ukraine proxy war , WWII, the Holohoax etc).
    I looked at your comment history and only scrolled down a little, but noticed that all of your comments were posted in THE ENCLAVE OF IMBECILITY.
    (ie: the Steve Sailer threads).

    I call it that because it overwhelming attracts imbeciles that chat about frivolous fluff.
    On one occasion last year when Sailer posted a substantive topic (ie: the Holohoax), I chimed in with some verifiable facts that demonstrated emphatically that nowhere near 6 millions Jews died during WWII, that there were NO gas chambers used to kill Jews (or any other ethnicities) in any German supervised work camp (that were falsely labelled as extermination camps).

    But Steve Sailer, being an obvious apologist for the crimes of Malevolent Jews, immediately moderated my comments for days and weeks on end, and even purged those that revealed too much truth about the Holohoax.
    Since then I’ve never been back and have urged others to avoid his articles.

    SUMMARY: Only morons (for the most part), read/participate in his threads.
    The fact that you’re to be found there speaks volumes about you.

    The fact that Fizzy-cyst Dovid has pulled the wool over your eyes and convinced you that he comes to UR in good faith and feigns sincerity, proves you’re a very gullible little man indeed.

  1118. @Truth Vigilante

    Our NeverTrumper Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote to Mark G.:

    BTW, I’ve watched nearly every one of the 2000 plus Ron Paul Liberty Reports, and Dr Paul has flirted with danger on several occasions by saying stuff like:

    ‘Hmmm, those anamolies about Building 7 on 9/11, it makes you wonder’, and numerous other things related to Bldg 7.
    You can bet London to a brick that Dr Paul knows EXACTLY what happened that day. He’s no fool.

    So… Ron Paul really agrees with you and your psychotic friends, but Dr.Paul is choosing to lie in public?

    Or just maybe Dr. Paul actually agrees with me.

    Which is more likely?

    Impossible that nay honest person could ever honestly disagree with you, right?

    The entire human race really agrees with you but is just pretending otherwise!

    I must say that, for as many decades as I have been studying psychotic cultists, you are indeed a unique specimen!

    Your friendly neighborhood Valiant Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  1119. Mark G. says:
    @PhysicistDave

    TV has been defending capitalism on another comment thread. In response to that, someone there has accused him of believing in “unhealthy Jewish ethics” and telling him he should read that favorite of the Nazis, Werner Sombart. So at the same time TV is accusing you of being on the side of the Jews someone else is more or less accusing him of being on the side of the Jews.

    No matter how much of a Jew hater you are, there is almost always someone else here in the Unz comment section who is even a bigger Jew hater than you are. You pretty much have to turn yourself into an admirer of Hitler to escape their wrath.

  1120. @Mark G.

    So at the same time TV is accusing you of being on the side of the Jews someone else is more or less accusing him of being on the side of the Jews.

    When a rat is cornered, it goes into offensive mode.
    And so it is with those I’ve exposed as being affiliated with ZOG, or at least working in the capacity of being useful idiots that are aiding and abetting ZOG’s agenda.

    Fizzy-cyst Dovid uses this tactic of projection by calling me a a ‘Fed’. In other words, calling someone else that of which he is guilty.
    Well, he can do it to his heart’s content – it won’t wash. UR readers can see through it.

    Meanwhile ‘Mark G’, you’re a strange cookie. Sometime you’re very sensible. Other times you’ve joined the bandwagon and start ranting on about ‘Jew haters’ and thrown me under the bus and slotted me in that category.
    I’ve said this before many times but it’s worth repeating:
    I do not hate Jews as a collective. I do not hate any race/subset of society as a collective. Life is too short to spend hating people.
    (I have had Jewish friends in the past, have a Jewish neighbour that I get along with just fine and have referenced a variety of honest Jews who I have sourced many insights from over the years on a variety of matters – the standout being the premier financial/economic commentator in the world Peter Schiff).
    I despise CRIMINALS and especially depraved criminals that are committing heinous crimes – irrespective of their ethnicity/religion.

    Yes, I want to bring about the demise of the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG), that small sliver of depraved child ritual abusing/sacrificing Talmudic Jews that are giving rank and file Jewry a name.
    But I equally despise the conscience-free goyim that have been aiding and abetting them (eg: Tony Blair, John McCain, Justin Trudeau, Nancy Pelosi, Lindsey Graham, Joe Biden, Rishi Sunak and countless others).

    Now, I have studied the JFK coup d’etat, the 9/11 False Flag and the Covid Psyop in great depth, and they have one thing in common. ie: ZOG fingerprints all over them.
    It is not my fault Mark G that you are TOO LAZY to put in the hard yards to research these events, and are thus unable to come to the same conclusion.

    If the evidence CLEARLY points to ZOG orchestration of these crimes (and many more besides) then I will continue to call a spade a spade.
    If you’re too gutless to do likewise because you cower in fear before your Talmudic overlords, then that is an issue you need to address on your own.

    BTW, I noticed that you had no comeback to my comment # 1144 after I comprehensively slapped down your silly conclusions. Just as well, because there are times when you need to suck it up and know that your beliefs are not based on reasoned analysis, and that there is a time to sit back and absorb wisdom from those that infinitely better informed than you are.

  1121. @Mark G.

    Also, in relation to this statement of yours:

    You pretty much have to turn yourself into an admirer of Hitler to escape their wrath.

    What do you mean by ‘need to turn yourself into a Hitler admirer’?
    No WWII leader was perfect and you could no doubt dig up some dirt on Hitler. But in RELATIVE TERMS, Hitler was BY FAR the standout world statesman of the 20th century.

    Anyone who has studied WWII history objectively will KNOW that as far as war crimes and atrocities were concerned:

    1) The Anglo Zionist empire committed BY FAR the more egregious crimes (both quantitively and qualitatively).

    2) There were NO gas chambers for killing humans* in any of the German supervised work camps that were falsely labelled as ‘extermination camps.
    (*Yes, Zyklon B was a real thing, It was a pesticide used to DELOUSE clothes/bed sheets of the inmates which were placed in smallish cubicles of a few square metres in volume. And Zyklon B did the trick, as the typhus epidemic was soon under control and the lives of countless thousands of inmates were spared – thus making available much needed manpower for the German war effort).

    3) That 6 million Jews were NOT killed by the Germans and that there was no systematic extermination of Jews (or any other minority) by the Germans during WWII.

    FACT: Less than 300,000 Jews died in ALL of those German work camps in ALL German occupied territories – the vast majority of those died in the 1942/43 typhus epidemics and the final months of the war as the German food transport/logistics network collapsed from saturation bombing/strafing etc. German civilians in the cities were themselves starving in those final months as food deliveries never got through.

    Yes, many Jews were shot by the Einzatsgruppen on the Eastern front but these were overwhelmingly those involved in partisan activity and in accordance with the Geneva Convention, the killing of non uniformed spies/guerillas was justified.

    SUMMARY: There is a reason that JFK wrote this in his diary after visiting Germany in the summer of 1945, a few months after German capitulated:

    “He [Hitler] had in him the stuff of which legends are made”

    Anyone who doesn’t have a Talmudic axe to grind and who doesn’t source the entirety of their WWII info from watching re-runs of Schindler’s List and Sophie’s Choice (ie: not you) would come to the same conclusion.

    Hitler had the courage to take on the Vampire Squid (aka ZOG), and had he been successful, he would’ve freed the world from the shackles of indentured servitude to that cartel of Zionist bankers.
    For this we should be eternally grateful.
    Even though Germany lost the war, there’s was a MORAL VICTORY and will serve as a template for the rest of us in our struggle to bring about the demise of ZOG.

    Hence there is no need to ‘turn’ someone into a Hitler admirer, because all sensible people that are well versed in TRUE HISTORY already are.

  1122. @Truth Vigilante

    Our NevertTrumper Truth “the Fed” Vigilante wrote to me:

    I can embarrass you like I did to Nicelamb (the Jewish sayan that pretends that he’s from Iceland), over his lies that he never shilled on behalf of the establishment during the Covid Psyop.

    Yeah, yeah! Embarrass me — let me have it! Gimme your best shot! Let’s see what ya got!

    You go, grrrrlll!

    The little Fed also wrote:

    What difference does it make whether it was the CIA, NSA DHS or any other three letter agency that comprises the ZOG controlled MISSS (Military Industrial Security Surveillance State).

    Well, y’see…

    The CIA does kinda nasty things like, say, assassinating foreign leaders and overthrowing foreign governments.

    But many of the other components of the US Intelligence Community gather information — often publicly available information — and try to make sense out of it.

    My work was for some of those guys, not the CIA, specifically guys who tried to monitor and understand Soviet nuclear tests, weapons deployment, etc.

    Now, I know history is not exactly one of your strong point. But, if you ever decide to learn any history, you will find that wars almost always start because one side or the other is misinformed about the other side’s capabilities.

    So, it seemed to me then, and it still seems to me now, to be a very, very good idea for the major nuclear powers — notably the USA and the Soviets — to have accurate information about the nuclear tests, weapons deployment, etc. of the other side.

    Given that there are these very heavily armed and power-hungry organizations, it seems like a good idea that they know the other guys’ capabilities so that they do not, as the result of a miscalculation, start a war.

    That was the purpose of the guys for whom I did work.

    And it worked.

    The US and the Soviets never went to war.

    You think it was a bad thing that guys like me helped bring about that result?

    Okaaaayyy…..

    And, no, the guys for whom I did work were not spying on your emails — that was another agency who did that. Sorry about that, but there was and is nothing I can do about that.

    I would prefer a nice, pleasant libertarian anarchy, kinda like the Shire in Tolkien’s books — before the Troubles began.

    But that is not the world we live in, alas!

    You do not see any difference between the bloody actions in which the CIA often engaged or the nosy actions of the agency spying on your emails vs. the guys for whom I did work that were making sure that the US leaders had an accurate knowledge of Soviet technical capabilities?

    If you cannot see that difference…

    Well, that is what I would expect from you.

    Do you think Ron Paul agrees with you or with me?

    Your friendly neighborhood heroic Agent of ZOG,

    Dave Miller in Sacramento

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  1123. @PhysicistDave

    UR readers, many of you will be wondering why Fizzy-cyst Dovid stooped so low in posting his deceits, distortions and outright misrepresentations of the Newtonian Laws of Motion, in his effort to defend the indefensible and implausible USG/NIST explanation for what happened to the WTC towers on the day of 9/11.
    I mean, what possible MOTIVE could he have had for posting those absurdities?

    Was he trying to ingratiate himself with some all powerful cabal by proving he had less integrity than the likes of Lindsey Graham and Tony Blair, and was thus willing to say and do anything so that he might one day be accepted amongst those child ritual sacrificing depraved misfits that control the entirety of the western financial system?

    I suggest you watch this 3 min video titled: ‘I want to be in the Illuminati’, and imagine Fizzy-cyst Dovid singing in place of this bloke:

    That video encapsulates everything you need to know about this repugnant individual called Dovid Miller.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  1124. @Mark G.

    Mark G. wrote to me:

    No matter how much of a Jew hater you are, there is almost always someone else here in the Unz comment section who is even a bigger Jew hater than you are.

    Yeah, it’s weird.

    I have been very critical of Jews who are part of the “Israel Lobby” simply because they are damaging the United States, not to mention what they are doing to the Palestinians. And I am harshly critical of Judaism because the Old Testament really is a seminal source for killing people because they hold the wrong religious beliefs.

    And yet our little Fed Truth Vigilante thinks he can make points with most of the posters here by claiming, falsely, that I am a Jew, just because I reject nonsense such as that the Twin Towers’ collapse was caused by a nuclear explosion.

    And, weirdest of all, he thinks he can score points by accusing me of being “a serial offender in falsifying data” *(see here), even though he knows everyone will know that is a lie.: he of course offers no evidence at all for that lie, and anyone who looks at my thesis can see that I was not reporting my own data but rather comparing data gathered by others to theoretical predictions.

    So I think the key question is: why does Truth Vigilante do it?

    The answer seems pretty obvious: the 911 attacks occurred as blowback as a result of disastrous US government policies pursued in the Mideast. Anyone who faces the truth about 911 — that this was a Muslim terrorist attack in response to US actions in the Mideast — has to think about those US actions.

    But, if we pretend that the Twin Towers came down for some other reason than a a retaliatory attack by Muslims, that distracts attention from the real issue of US Mideast policy.

    And that is clearly what Truth Vigilante and the whole 911 Truther movement is doing.

    They are serving the interest of the US Deep State.

    Was the 911 Truther movement created by the Deep State? Is it funded by the Deep State?

    Hard to say.

    Are a number of the members of the 911 Truther movement in fact knowing, active assets of the Deep State?

    Well, this would be the first time in over a half century that the Deep State did not have assets within fringe dissident groups!

    And given how effectively the 911 Truther movement deflects attention from the real cause of the 911 attacks — US policy in the Mideast — it is hard to see how any sensible person could deny Deep State involvement.

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

    Mark G. also wrote:

    You pretty much have to turn yourself into an admirer of Hitler to escape their wrath.

    I assume that you saw that in response to that comment, Truth Vigilante wrote (see here):

    But in RELATIVE TERMS, Hitler was BY FAR the standout world statesman of the 20th century.

    So Truth Vigilante is indeed claiming openly to be a Hitler-lover.

    Again, why would he do this?

    Even if this is in fact Truth Vigilante’s true belief, this is hardly an effective means to convince ordinary people of his decency, honesty, or good will!

    What does this achieve?

    Only to cause ordinary people to be alienated from critics of the US Deep State, because such critics seem to be, quite literally, announcing that they are admirers of Hitler!

    Is Truth Vigilante so delusional that he does not realize this, or is he doing it on purpose?

    Hard to say.

    What is not hard to say is that this most assuredly serves the interest of the Deep State.

    My old friend Murray Rothbard was involved in the antiwar movement back in the 1960s, and he got to know a fellow whom he referred to as “Comrade Carlos” who behaved very much as our own Truth Vigilante behaves. As Murray says (see here, pp. 199-200 (or pp. 224-225 in the pdf numeration)):

    And, oh yes, I heard later that Comrade Carlos had turned out to be a police agent

    Yep, the spitting image of our own Truth Vigilante.

    ———

    ** I’ll try to repost this in Ron’s new open thread, so any respondents should try to look there.

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